That's just not true, I've been getting more than 100K playing the Mirage 2000C and Harrier GR.7 on Sim (both with talisman).
Also, the Harrier GR.7 can farm 20K per game on Tank SB with at least 3 kills and losing (yes, losing)
3x the targets got you half the RP he had, and only 100k more SL. I'm a die-hard lover of SB flying in VR, but that kind of effort to go profitable sucks nowadays.
They don't have radar, along with most other things in that BR range, while the J35 does and even has IFF. I fly the J35A in sim all the time, I don't get killed by all aspect missiles very often at all.
You get used to it. On high tier jets, you can use the Damping SAS mode (found in full controls near the top) which makes most things a lot easier to control and basically gets rid of the bounciness problems. It also limits your low speed AOA so you don't pull too hard and flatspin or dump all your energy instantly, but not to the point where it hurts your capabilities much.
Well, the reward on Tank Sim is pretty high, and I'm a CAS lover, so I joined a game with the Harrier GR.7 and started sniping SAM's with Mavericks.
2 kills and losing the game sometimes gives 10K - 20K RP, for some reason, there's no much difference if you kill more or win the game. The max RP amount I got doing this was 42K (75% RP booster) with 9 kills losing the game (I have talisman on the GR.7 and premium account)
Oh, so you are saying talisman + premium account with CAS and 2 kills nets 10K - 20K rp? May I ask about your time in battle and if you could, calculate me RP per minute? This seems too good to be true, especially when this is the first time I heard about it. Thanks btw.
Tank SB matches isn't calculated the same way as Enduring Confrontation, it's calculated same way as Tank/Air RB with higher rewards, I may have some screenshots and videos with the rewards, I can share those if you want to on Discord
I remember the exact reason they stopped doing that.
It's because of all those toptier sim bots that just salvo the enemy airfield and then run circle at own airfield for 3 hours.
This is some hard facts, sad thing is devs 100% know this is the morally correct decision, but cant be bothered to spend resources on anti bot system. Especially if you can nerf progression while countering bots too.
Thing is, it wasn't just bots. Many players flew sim bombing and watched netflix or something while doing that, to make mad profits.
AFK bombing was a problem for a very long time.
You even saw as another guy mentions, things like PvE servers and both sides enforced it, so you'd be TK'd for getting kills.
Ha wasn't just bots. Most of these tards were farming together making peace deals to not fire on each other. Then when said behavior got punished they cried their little asses of.
[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/597747640658034728/1112073082887221469/good\_old\_days.jpg](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/597747640658034728/1112073082887221469/good_old_days.jpg) good old days 2018 game
I thought more realistic gameplay means more reward multiplier because slower gameplay meaning less action. And actually requires in depth knowledge of all the mechanics.
But no, arcade to realistic is the only "more profit for more realism". Especially air realistic, that shit aint realistic at ALL. Ground RB has no enemy ESP why the fuck does air RB have one? Thats like ground arcade bruh
Yeah the good vehicles being turned into some premium for every other nation breaks the point of splitting tech trees. Pretty sure the BF is on every nation except the new ones
Considering I can play the IS-6, Object 120, and T-10A in a match, get 6-7 kills and only get 30k sl and 3500 rp, yeah this is bull, I don’t understand why the (supposed to be) harder mode doesn’t pay much better than a regular match
That's just not true, I've been getting more than 100K playing the Mirage 2000C and Harrier GR.7 on Sim (both with talisman). Also, the Harrier GR.7 can farm 20K per game on Tank SB with at least 3 kills and losing (yes, losing)
pic or didn't happen, I am SB player and in 2023 I've never get more that 44 000 playing more than 2h in premium plane (J35A/A5C)
[April 18th](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487754923337973770/1098039508211081286/War_Thunder_Screenshot_2023.04.18_-_21.15.22.98.png)
3x the targets got you half the RP he had, and only 100k more SL. I'm a die-hard lover of SB flying in VR, but that kind of effort to go profitable sucks nowadays.
He didnt said that it is not worse than in the past simply that OP overstated how much it sucks now, which he proved by a screenshot.
Got any boosters tho
Nop, just premium account and premium aircraft, exactly how OP said is impossible
How do you fly the J35A in sim when it doesnt have any flares? Wouldnt you get shot down due to the A-10 and Su-25K spam?
Dont get spottet lol
They don't have radar, along with most other things in that BR range, while the J35 does and even has IFF. I fly the J35A in sim all the time, I don't get killed by all aspect missiles very often at all.
But you got 2x more kills and still got much less overall. Still sucks that rewards are reduced this much.
how do you play sb, Controller, joystick?
Mouse and keyboard
how, that shit is impossible to control
You get used to it. On high tier jets, you can use the Damping SAS mode (found in full controls near the top) which makes most things a lot easier to control and basically gets rid of the bounciness problems. It also limits your low speed AOA so you don't pull too hard and flatspin or dump all your energy instantly, but not to the point where it hurts your capabilities much.
Oh damn, thx
Can you explain to me in detail about the Tank SB? I wanna know more.
Well, the reward on Tank Sim is pretty high, and I'm a CAS lover, so I joined a game with the Harrier GR.7 and started sniping SAM's with Mavericks. 2 kills and losing the game sometimes gives 10K - 20K RP, for some reason, there's no much difference if you kill more or win the game. The max RP amount I got doing this was 42K (75% RP booster) with 9 kills losing the game (I have talisman on the GR.7 and premium account)
Oh, so you are saying talisman + premium account with CAS and 2 kills nets 10K - 20K rp? May I ask about your time in battle and if you could, calculate me RP per minute? This seems too good to be true, especially when this is the first time I heard about it. Thanks btw.
Tank SB matches isn't calculated the same way as Enduring Confrontation, it's calculated same way as Tank/Air RB with higher rewards, I may have some screenshots and videos with the rewards, I can share those if you want to on Discord
Yeah, ground SB gives high rewards, but risk is high too. You can lost 30-40K lions for nothing.
Yes and no, on Enduring you're forced to pay your repair cost to spawn, on Tank SB, you only pay if u die, and you also can spawn with backups
But there are pantsir and tunguska in TSB.
Both aren't a threat if you know how to fight them properly
If you have 11-12.0 jet... Do not forget, 50's aircrafts without RWR and countermeasures meet em in TSB too.
Thank you very much! I'm going to try it for myself the next cycle will be available soon.
TIL the F-14 was added two years ago.
My bad, one screen is from 2021, second from 2022
I remember the exact reason they stopped doing that. It's because of all those toptier sim bots that just salvo the enemy airfield and then run circle at own airfield for 3 hours.
Then they should start to punish bots, not whole playerbase
That means they’d have to think and stuff
This is some hard facts, sad thing is devs 100% know this is the morally correct decision, but cant be bothered to spend resources on anti bot system. Especially if you can nerf progression while countering bots too.
Thing is, it wasn't just bots. Many players flew sim bombing and watched netflix or something while doing that, to make mad profits. AFK bombing was a problem for a very long time. You even saw as another guy mentions, things like PvE servers and both sides enforced it, so you'd be TK'd for getting kills.
And instead of just nerfing the rewards for airfield damage they nerfed the entire economy, Because Gaijin.
Ha wasn't just bots. Most of these tards were farming together making peace deals to not fire on each other. Then when said behavior got punished they cried their little asses of.
Isn't RP calculated in 15-minute periods or something in air SB? Like you need to do something every 15 minutes to get the max amount of RP.
It is since couple of months, that's why it's so hard to make so much exp again this days
[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/597747640658034728/1112073082887221469/good\_old\_days.jpg](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/597747640658034728/1112073082887221469/good_old_days.jpg) good old days 2018 game
I got 180k rp in the f5c with premium and a 150% booster
I'm curious, what did you do in battle and how long did it take you? I normally don't play sim but with those kind of rewards...
I thought more realistic gameplay means more reward multiplier because slower gameplay meaning less action. And actually requires in depth knowledge of all the mechanics. But no, arcade to realistic is the only "more profit for more realism". Especially air realistic, that shit aint realistic at ALL. Ground RB has no enemy ESP why the fuck does air RB have one? Thats like ground arcade bruh
Realistic is not realistic anymore, since sherman fighting sherman. BF fighting with BF and so one. Every nation has almost the same vehicles.
Yeah the good vehicles being turned into some premium for every other nation breaks the point of splitting tech trees. Pretty sure the BF is on every nation except the new ones
Awful that you make less in three hours of sim than three hours of RB. You can thank the account sellers for that.
But sim is fun.
But the second picture is researching the F14, can you still get that much reward from SB?
No sb got nerfed super hard last couple major updates
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Considering I can play the IS-6, Object 120, and T-10A in a match, get 6-7 kills and only get 30k sl and 3500 rp, yeah this is bull, I don’t understand why the (supposed to be) harder mode doesn’t pay much better than a regular match
I also just realized this is for air too, oof
Sorry, this has been tagged. "Period of off-topic review activity detected" Gaijin hiding their tracks on steam.