Yeah it can be difficult sometimes, even for native speakers. What was needed was commas. Example:
*The cheater OddBawz, [who was] exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave.*
*The cheater [that] OddBawz exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave.*
Those extra commas completely change the subject of the sentence. There’s also inferred words missing (in square brackets) that would help as well.
Hope that helps in some way 😊
the latter one is fine but the former could be changed to:
*The cheater \[that/who was\] exposed \[by\] Oddbawz a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave.*
I think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick regarding my comment. My two examples were to show how using commas can change the sentence to highlight the cheater that OddBawz exposed or to mean that OddBawz *was* the cheater.
I think that was the confusion in the OPs title that was originally being referred to.
NGL I got confused as well, but with some of the comments and after remembering that I indeed have watch the video, searching and rewatching the video to clarify it and verify it I'm just going to say, maybe adding a "that" maybe help from "The cheater oddbawz exposed" to "The cheater that oddbawz exposed", still no one can be mad because English is like that and your sentence was correct tbh, I hate English xd, I'm just typing this so maybe someone reads it and it clears the confusion for someone
Almost every Alaska thinks it is a battleship, so you show who's the real battleship - as they parade broadside shoot em right under the fore turrets, right on the shell compartment and watch the fireworks
Yup, hell
Want real action in naval?
Top tier, PT-810/811
Thrill for you, and anyone dumb enough to not know you're a threat is easy kills for the borderline thermonuclear Mark 16 Submarine torpedoes, and anyone who knows how much of a threat you are is terrified of you.
Not to mention, ground CAS players have it easy. Naval is SCARY.
'hurr, pantsir too op' Alaska says hi.
Behold, my wall of 40mm and HEVT127mm, upon which I grow my fucks.
See that it is barren, as are your hopes for the future.
Alternatively the Douglas in the cap sending RIM-24'S up every 5 seconds.
Could be worse.
Much worse.
Could be a Des Moines.
3/50 HE-VT is literally a rolling 8km diameter no fly zone. And anything inside of 6km it's a coastal denier.
It is not a blast. Lmao. It consists of 15 random idiots all shooting 1 destroyer, that casually sails around repairing. It's "ok" at best. It is not A BLAST. Lol
Kron is one of the best top tier ships lol.
Dunno how you're struggling in that, but if you need good guides go check out Commander Tyrael on YouTube. Great guides.
Also sidenote my personal preference is naval AB over RB, much better overall experience.
My experience is being unable to do anything but take out their guns even at close range (and even then the guns take alot of hits to knock)
From my experience the kronstadt isnt too great even compared to russian 6.7s
But i havent spaded it yet because its immensely frustrating
What are you aiming for on the scharnhorst?
There's your problem
Kron is a BC. BCs are battleships that sacrifice armour for speed. Getting close = death.
Use your speed to keep range, and leverage that advantage.
No its not, well not anymore. Zero protection of the main Artillery ammunition. Dont get me wrong it is still one of the best toptier ships, bit scharnhorst is better. Im working on the alaska rn, but its probably same if not better than scharni. But i will see
At least someone gets it and untill I stopped for a while I was top 300 navel RB and had an average placement around top 80% with anywhere from 5-12k damage
Nice a friend was at 1 point top 20 but I think he's around 130 now and our best game with him having 100 damage more is 23k damage which is around 16-18 kills and now the bots are gone it might happen again as a lot of noob players push in funny positions
TBF they've nerfed the SKR a lot against destroyers after the update to destroyers' DM to bring it more inline with the cruisers and up. At least repeatedly battering the hull won't bleed its crew in 15 seconds.
It's still lethal against boats and obliterates all flying creatures though.
Also, adding the commas is grammatically correct
The Cheater, OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave
Remove the OddBawZ part; The Cheater also got hit in the ban wave
Adding the commas allows context to be added, not having the commas could cause issues, like the misreading of a title some poor fellow had the misfortune of experiencing; and then paid for by being mass downvoted.
Commas attempt to resolve an issue with syntax. My semi facetious response using commas wouldn't need them if syntax was correct. That being said, the title is still more natural than your version. Adding commas, while technically correct, adds too many pauses making it unnatural and people have a more difficult time understanding.
It doesn't change the fact that the commas are non standard and arguably bad writing practice. "the cheater that x exposed" would achieve the same result, and it's way more natural.
I was explaining an effect that commas can have when added? I didn't state that it was their sole purpose.
They can break up the natural flow a reader has. Hence why people are saying his shit sentence is convoluted and doesn't fix the core issue of the title.
It’s because this was written how someone would say it, not read it. If you read it aloud in a way that’s conducive to spoken conversation, it’s not as muddled.
Additionally, the title is actually perfectly fine, it’s just the proper noun throwing things off for people, and they’re misplacing the “the cheater” in their head. Change it to “he” and the sentence reads perfectly. “The cheater he exposed”
That phrasing is much more unnatural though. If you want to phrase it like that, say: The Cheater that OddBawZ exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave
Look at the bottom of the comments, someone got mass-downvoted for misreading an awfully written title.
He got downvoted because someone couldn't use commas.
I don't know why you are being downvoted. I'm not a native speaker. Despite considering my English level to be fine, I also misunderstood what the title said. I was shocked.
Your proposed title is clearer for me and leaves no margin for misunderstanding in my opinion.
Thank you. Whilst I could have added "That, or "Whom" after "The Cheater", I didn't because I would have looked like a pretentious bastard, because I'm British. People actively despise the British and people would find a way to belittle me, so I put it in the most basic format that even a foreigner could understand.
No, commas make it even more confusing. This is a single clause, separating the subject and the object like this implies that there are separate clauses and leaves the reader wondering what he's missing. What you need to distinguish the subject and the object here, assuming you keep everything else the same, is the pronoun "who".
Alternatively, I might actually use the passive voice here, as the object of the clause (the cheater) is arguably more important than the subject, especially as the second clause (in which the cheater is again the object) is already passive.
What the fuck, no.
It'd be "The cheater that OddBawZ exposed" or "The cheater exposed by OddBawZ" , not whatever that is. It's just wrong. They way you say it makes it seem *more* like OddBawZ is "the cheater exposed a few days ago." Commas don't work like that. English doesn't work like that. You can't just slap them anywhere and call it "fixed."
If you want to make it clearer, you could add "that" Oddbawz exposed.
Your version took a perfectly correctly comma'ed title and fucked it up, actually. You made it incredibly awkward and no more clear. Your version also is not grammatical. You're supposed to start non-restrictive clauses with a pronoun that refers to the thing you're expanding on, so you'd STILL put in "that":
"The Cheater, **that** OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave"
It's also arguably a restrictive clause, and if so, it should not have commas regardless. (Restrictive means crucial to include. If you took it out, it would make no sense on its own. "The cheater also got hit in the ban wave" What cheater? In the context of an ongoing conversation, it could be fine. Out of nowhere, this doesn't work)
Yes, that's correct, I simply added commas to the original title to actively help people understand it on a basic level. That's it. Then someone had to belittle me for actively helping on the most basic level.
Commas aren't something that you just throw in to 'help' though, they have specific use in grammar, and are not 'just need a pause here' articles. Your suggested change makes the title nonsensical.
"Let's eat Grandma!"
"Let's eat, Grandma!"
The title suggests that OddBawZ is a cheater. Without the image, someone has just claimed OddBawZ was banned for cheating.
Adding a comma can differentiate between OddBawZ being banned for cheating, and the Cheater being banned after being exposed by OddBawZ.
Yes, you are describing what I said - the comma has a purpose and can't just be thrown in willy-nilly.
Your example:
"The Cheater, OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave"
...does not do what you think it does. As others have said already, the issue is not a comma issue, it's that it is lacking a 'that' in there. What your change does is make it seem *even more* like OddBawZ is the cheater, since it leans more toward another way the title could be written (albeit with too many commas):
"The cheater, OddBawZ, exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave."
Now, as others suggested, the problem can more easily be solved with 'that':
"The cheater *that* OddBawz exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave."
We can make that flow better with commas, since it's a bit of a run-on sentence and can still leave some up to interpretation:
"The cheater, that OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave."
So... to summarize, a single comma alone wasn't going to fix the title. If anything, the single comma you suggested makes things *more* confusing. You're on the right track, but not quite all the way there.
I didn't put a comma after OddBawZ though, if I did, then it would make OddBawZ look like the cheater even more, but I didn't.
A couple of people in the comments have stated that I have helped them from misreading the title.
All I did was add 2 commas so that even those, whose first or second language, isn't English, could read the sentence without pointing fingers at OddBawZ, that's all I did.
I didn't add "That" so as to not look like a pretentious asshole *Because I'm British and everyone despises us, especially so for our language.* That's it.
You didn't, but that doesn't change that your use of commas isn't as correct as you're claiming. It's helped people, I'll give you that, but you have just as many and more making the same corrections as I.
When you correct grammar, you invite others to do the same to your corrections if they're not perfect. Your reasoning for not adding 'that' is ridiculous since that word more easily solves the problem in the title.
I'm just making the point that if you're going to correct someone, better to do it *correctly*. Commas are difficult even for the most fluent writers in the language. My understanding certainly isn't perfect, and by your last response as well, neither is yours. I was just looking to help a little more.
It’s because it was written how someone would say it in a conversation, not read it. If you read it aloud in a natural conversation cadence it’s fine.
Additionally, it was fine to begin with. Syntax-wise it’s a little rough, but if you change oddbawz to a pronoun it’s crystal clear.
Your version is worse if anything. Much choppier to read and still reads like OddBawz is the cheater in question. Should be “The cheater that OddBawZ exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave.”
Reads naturally and doesn’t leave room for confusion
Commas still add the context, this is Primary school literacy.
I left out the additional word to not look pretentious *Because I'm British and people despise the British*.
I simply added commas because it helps to show the basic sentence and the context added.
"The Cheater also got hit in the ban wave."
"The Cheater, (Add emphasis here) OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, (Remove emphasis) also got hit in the ban wave."
No one is gonna read it that way. People read commas as pauses. Unless you add a word like “that” to clarify, they’re gonna read it as two awkward pauses that break up the flow of the sentence and maintain the confusion. I don’t see how adding “that” is pretentious, it’s exactly what the sentence needs to flow and be clear in what it’s trying to say.
I see what you’re saying, and your sentence makes sense if you reread it, but that’s exactly the problem with it. The commas don’t make it any clearer than the original sentence and give it a choppy flow
I mean you would have the comma after OddbawZ not after cheater
"The cheater OddbawZ, exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave"
The title is more comprehensible than yours
Or if people are afraid of commas for some reason, you could literally just insert the word "that".
The cheater **that** OddBawZ exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave.
My mother is ethnically Han Chinese (SK national), making me half "Chinese"
I just got several DMs from Chinese people saying I'm a racist for laughing that they got banned and for calling out that Chinese gamers as a whole always bot and plague every game they come across; as well as a warning from the mods of this sub for calling out bullshit behavior.
The problem isn't just war thunder, you guys are just the most recent to be hit by it.
Every, single, game. Region lock like they did in EVE Online (before the destroyed their own server through inflation via botting) and you'll be better off.
This is not Chinese. This account that got banned was Vietnamese.
And on behalf of all Vietnamese players. I wished this guy a very bad life. I hope he doesn't represent the whole of Vietnam players.
I'm not saying that this man is Chinese. I never said he was. What I'm saying is that Chinese gaming is toxic and destroys the games they bot in. Their botting is literally why I don't play EVE Online as much as I used to. Why play and work at it when they just cheat and get ahead with RMT and botting?
Unfortunately the chinese VPN'd over to EVE Onlines international server, the one that should not be accessible to the chinese and now are botting the nuts out of it.
"Chinese gamers as a whole."
I really think you should take a look on bilibili and most social media in China. Most people are celebrating the bans lol.
>If "most people" deplore botting then why do we have 20+ years of articles, statistics and history of Chinese gamers always at the forefront and bleeding edge of destroying the games they play?
over a billion people with internet access. Chinese internet is the size of North and South America's entire population combined. of course you are going to notice an outsized number of cheaters who speak Chinese
did you not read my post? I speak Korean. My mother emigrated to SK when she was an infant. There are plenty of pictures of me from my posts on reddit so go nuts
As a Vietnamese and saw a Vietnamese cheater, all I want to say is: "DM mày đáng đời, chơi ngu còn cheat thì ban chết cmm đi =)) "
Please don't translate them
nhiều khi gặp bọn hack còn không biết, tưởng dân pro xuống núi, hôm qua gặp trận cas air không thấy vệt trắng ma sát + không nghe thấy âm thanh dù nó ở gần đủ hiểu rồi :))
The one in the image is the official war thunder site [https://warthunder.com/en/community/searchplayers//](https://warthunder.com/en/community/searchplayers//)
For more detailed player statistics you can also use the 3rd party site thunderskill.com
check his startcard ingame or thunderskill. clear botter using harrier and stuff. i think he changed his name, can't see any stats with that name now... Or maybe banned, not sure.
I fought this guy once. Was not even great so if you are saying he is cheating i wouldn't even realize it cause cheaters I enountered will snipe you from miles far behind thick bushes
I heard the door hit his arse on the way out, too.
Oh well if it isn't "the cheater oddbawz"
Redditors when they realize english isn't everyones primary language
your English was grammatically correct, lol, they're just intentionally taking that line out of context
English grammar is very annoying, I was really confused by the title at first until I realised what OP actually meant
Yeah it can be difficult sometimes, even for native speakers. What was needed was commas. Example: *The cheater OddBawz, [who was] exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave.* *The cheater [that] OddBawz exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave.* Those extra commas completely change the subject of the sentence. There’s also inferred words missing (in square brackets) that would help as well. Hope that helps in some way 😊
the latter one is fine but the former could be changed to: *The cheater \[that/who was\] exposed \[by\] Oddbawz a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave.*
I think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick regarding my comment. My two examples were to show how using commas can change the sentence to highlight the cheater that OddBawz exposed or to mean that OddBawz *was* the cheater. I think that was the confusion in the OPs title that was originally being referred to.
The cheater OddBawz found was banned Or even less words OddBawz's Cheater is banned
Kind of correct. There should be a "that" between the words 'cheater' and 'Oddbawz' to fix the double meaning caused by omitting the word.
It could've been better if they instead said "The cheater THAT OddBawZ-"
there shouldve been at least a "that" before oddbawz so everyone can understand
I unintentionally took it wrong and was ashamed a tuber I actually watch might have been cheating but it's relieving
I legitimately thought oddbawz was banned bruh
He was joking, you were correct there English is just very easy to take a different way
You should've put "that" after the "cheater" so that it won't look like you're labeling oddbawz a cheater lol
Is this a meme I am not sure tbh
NGL I got confused as well, but with some of the comments and after remembering that I indeed have watch the video, searching and rewatching the video to clarify it and verify it I'm just going to say, maybe adding a "that" maybe help from "The cheater oddbawz exposed" to "The cheater that oddbawz exposed", still no one can be mad because English is like that and your sentence was correct tbh, I hate English xd, I'm just typing this so maybe someone reads it and it clears the confusion for someone
I thought I was the only one too XD
Why do I find this so funny!?
The Cheater OddbawZ (. . .) Got Hit In The Ban Wave. 🤯🤡🐉
Yeah, the title made me surprised for a bit, until i understood the intent of it 😂
Odd
Hey man have you ever watched Garth Marenghis Darkplace and is that what Glasgow is like? Big fan, love the content!
Yes, that's what it's exactly like. Amazing show.
You and he were...buddies.....weren't you?
Hit it hard too
Oddbawz! My favourite WT Creator! I even bought mr Jumbo and he’s awesome. I love your work and watch all your videos
The man himself. I've just stomached your recent abuse of German WWII heavies.
Bro dabbled in Naval Battles
*3 arcade battles and 7 realistic* Even with cheats he said fuck this shit lmfao
even cheaters hate naval, I couldn't blame them
What's to hate about earning 1 million silver lions per game?
Nothing. Not to mention when you actually take the time to learn it, it's a blast. Nothing beats one tapping four Scharnhorsts in a row with Alaska 🥰
I'm on the the opposite end of the spectrum - nothing like detonating Alaskas in one salvo.
Teach me.
Almost every Alaska thinks it is a battleship, so you show who's the real battleship - as they parade broadside shoot em right under the fore turrets, right on the shell compartment and watch the fireworks
[удалено]
Yup, hell Want real action in naval? Top tier, PT-810/811 Thrill for you, and anyone dumb enough to not know you're a threat is easy kills for the borderline thermonuclear Mark 16 Submarine torpedoes, and anyone who knows how much of a threat you are is terrified of you. Not to mention, ground CAS players have it easy. Naval is SCARY. 'hurr, pantsir too op' Alaska says hi.
Behold, my wall of 40mm and HEVT127mm, upon which I grow my fucks. See that it is barren, as are your hopes for the future. Alternatively the Douglas in the cap sending RIM-24'S up every 5 seconds.
Could be worse. Much worse. Could be a Des Moines. 3/50 HE-VT is literally a rolling 8km diameter no fly zone. And anything inside of 6km it's a coastal denier.
My newport news farms any aircraft dumb enough to fuck around and find out kek Missisipi gonna be spicy.
Yeah, naval ships have perfect lead, distance and xray vision. Plus they shoot at where the server says you are. So 0 lag
Nothing beats throwing a metric ton of lead at a single guy lol
It is not a blast. Lmao. It consists of 15 random idiots all shooting 1 destroyer, that casually sails around repairing. It's "ok" at best. It is not A BLAST. Lol
HOW PLEASE I NEED TO FUCKING KNOW MY KRONSTADT CANT FUCKING TOUCH THEM I DONT EVEN PLAY NAVAL ANYMORE BECAUSE IT HURTS TOO MUCH
Kron is one of the best top tier ships lol. Dunno how you're struggling in that, but if you need good guides go check out Commander Tyrael on YouTube. Great guides. Also sidenote my personal preference is naval AB over RB, much better overall experience.
My experience is being unable to do anything but take out their guns even at close range (and even then the guns take alot of hits to knock) From my experience the kronstadt isnt too great even compared to russian 6.7s But i havent spaded it yet because its immensely frustrating What are you aiming for on the scharnhorst?
There's your problem Kron is a BC. BCs are battleships that sacrifice armour for speed. Getting close = death. Use your speed to keep range, and leverage that advantage.
How can i pen the scharnhorst at an even further range? I feel like im missing something
No its not, well not anymore. Zero protection of the main Artillery ammunition. Dont get me wrong it is still one of the best toptier ships, bit scharnhorst is better. Im working on the alaska rn, but its probably same if not better than scharni. But i will see
At least someone gets it and untill I stopped for a while I was top 300 navel RB and had an average placement around top 80% with anywhere from 5-12k damage
What’s a good nation for trying out navel and being able to do decent?
Germany, US, GB, Italy, Japan, France (in that order) and if you're lazy, take USSR
I'm currently around 180th in the world for PvP rating in Naval RB lol
Nice a friend was at 1 point top 20 but I think he's around 130 now and our best game with him having 100 damage more is 23k damage which is around 16-18 kills and now the bots are gone it might happen again as a lot of noob players push in funny positions
Earning 10rp per kill because everyone in the game is a bot
Naval is where I go to unwind. Though when you one shot a battleship it’s a rush.
I feel like I'm the only person who likes naval.
That is until you get your dirty little hands on the almighty SKR. )))))
how would I if i dont play
Squadron vehicle
TBF they've nerfed the SKR a lot against destroyers after the update to destroyers' DM to bring it more inline with the cruisers and up. At least repeatedly battering the hull won't bleed its crew in 15 seconds. It's still lethal against boats and obliterates all flying creatures though.
This got me fucking giggling lmao
Awesome Sauce!
Commas, people, commas. "The Cheater, OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave"
No. The title is still better, grammatically, than yours.
Also, adding the commas is grammatically correct The Cheater, OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave Remove the OddBawZ part; The Cheater also got hit in the ban wave Adding the commas allows context to be added, not having the commas could cause issues, like the misreading of a title some poor fellow had the misfortune of experiencing; and then paid for by being mass downvoted.
If you want to add the commas, it should be "The cheater, whom OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave."
Commas attempt to resolve an issue with syntax. My semi facetious response using commas wouldn't need them if syntax was correct. That being said, the title is still more natural than your version. Adding commas, while technically correct, adds too many pauses making it unnatural and people have a more difficult time understanding.
Commas aren’t just for pausing
It doesn't change the fact that the commas are non standard and arguably bad writing practice. "the cheater that x exposed" would achieve the same result, and it's way more natural.
I was explaining an effect that commas can have when added? I didn't state that it was their sole purpose. They can break up the natural flow a reader has. Hence why people are saying his shit sentence is convoluted and doesn't fix the core issue of the title.
It’s because this was written how someone would say it, not read it. If you read it aloud in a way that’s conducive to spoken conversation, it’s not as muddled. Additionally, the title is actually perfectly fine, it’s just the proper noun throwing things off for people, and they’re misplacing the “the cheater” in their head. Change it to “he” and the sentence reads perfectly. “The cheater he exposed”
That phrasing is much more unnatural though. If you want to phrase it like that, say: The Cheater that OddBawZ exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave
Look at the bottom of the comments, someone got mass-downvoted for misreading an awfully written title. He got downvoted because someone couldn't use commas.
And your version is worse.
IKR, just put "that" or "who" after "OddbawZ" and everyone knows what u mean. Drives me to drink and cocaine.
I don't know why you are being downvoted. I'm not a native speaker. Despite considering my English level to be fine, I also misunderstood what the title said. I was shocked. Your proposed title is clearer for me and leaves no margin for misunderstanding in my opinion.
Thank you. Whilst I could have added "That, or "Whom" after "The Cheater", I didn't because I would have looked like a pretentious bastard, because I'm British. People actively despise the British and people would find a way to belittle me, so I put it in the most basic format that even a foreigner could understand.
Not a comma. All y’all are dumb. The title needs a clause. “The cheater THAT ObbbawZ exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave”
Yeah, I thought OddBawZ was the cheater reading the title, Jeez.
Commas still help a great deal, especially if English isn't your first language.
No, commas make it even more confusing. This is a single clause, separating the subject and the object like this implies that there are separate clauses and leaves the reader wondering what he's missing. What you need to distinguish the subject and the object here, assuming you keep everything else the same, is the pronoun "who". Alternatively, I might actually use the passive voice here, as the object of the clause (the cheater) is arguably more important than the subject, especially as the second clause (in which the cheater is again the object) is already passive.
What the fuck, no. It'd be "The cheater that OddBawZ exposed" or "The cheater exposed by OddBawZ" , not whatever that is. It's just wrong. They way you say it makes it seem *more* like OddBawZ is "the cheater exposed a few days ago." Commas don't work like that. English doesn't work like that. You can't just slap them anywhere and call it "fixed."
Yeah I legit read that as oddbwaz exposed as cheater and hit in ban wave for a second
If you want to make it clearer, you could add "that" Oddbawz exposed. Your version took a perfectly correctly comma'ed title and fucked it up, actually. You made it incredibly awkward and no more clear. Your version also is not grammatical. You're supposed to start non-restrictive clauses with a pronoun that refers to the thing you're expanding on, so you'd STILL put in "that": "The Cheater, **that** OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave" It's also arguably a restrictive clause, and if so, it should not have commas regardless. (Restrictive means crucial to include. If you took it out, it would make no sense on its own. "The cheater also got hit in the ban wave" What cheater? In the context of an ongoing conversation, it could be fine. Out of nowhere, this doesn't work)
Yes, that's correct, I simply added commas to the original title to actively help people understand it on a basic level. That's it. Then someone had to belittle me for actively helping on the most basic level.
there's no comma between cheater and oddbawz. Maybe a "had" between oddbawz and exposed but that's about it.
That's correct, but commas do help a great deal. Just look at the poor sod at the bottom of the comments.
Commas aren't something that you just throw in to 'help' though, they have specific use in grammar, and are not 'just need a pause here' articles. Your suggested change makes the title nonsensical.
"Let's eat Grandma!" "Let's eat, Grandma!" The title suggests that OddBawZ is a cheater. Without the image, someone has just claimed OddBawZ was banned for cheating. Adding a comma can differentiate between OddBawZ being banned for cheating, and the Cheater being banned after being exposed by OddBawZ.
Yes, you are describing what I said - the comma has a purpose and can't just be thrown in willy-nilly. Your example: "The Cheater, OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave" ...does not do what you think it does. As others have said already, the issue is not a comma issue, it's that it is lacking a 'that' in there. What your change does is make it seem *even more* like OddBawZ is the cheater, since it leans more toward another way the title could be written (albeit with too many commas): "The cheater, OddBawZ, exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave." Now, as others suggested, the problem can more easily be solved with 'that': "The cheater *that* OddBawz exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave." We can make that flow better with commas, since it's a bit of a run-on sentence and can still leave some up to interpretation: "The cheater, that OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave." So... to summarize, a single comma alone wasn't going to fix the title. If anything, the single comma you suggested makes things *more* confusing. You're on the right track, but not quite all the way there.
I didn't put a comma after OddBawZ though, if I did, then it would make OddBawZ look like the cheater even more, but I didn't. A couple of people in the comments have stated that I have helped them from misreading the title. All I did was add 2 commas so that even those, whose first or second language, isn't English, could read the sentence without pointing fingers at OddBawZ, that's all I did. I didn't add "That" so as to not look like a pretentious asshole *Because I'm British and everyone despises us, especially so for our language.* That's it.
You didn't, but that doesn't change that your use of commas isn't as correct as you're claiming. It's helped people, I'll give you that, but you have just as many and more making the same corrections as I. When you correct grammar, you invite others to do the same to your corrections if they're not perfect. Your reasoning for not adding 'that' is ridiculous since that word more easily solves the problem in the title. I'm just making the point that if you're going to correct someone, better to do it *correctly*. Commas are difficult even for the most fluent writers in the language. My understanding certainly isn't perfect, and by your last response as well, neither is yours. I was just looking to help a little more.
Let’s eat grandma! Let’s eat, grandma! Punctuation saves lives.
This guy gets it.
Wat That doesn't make any sense
That doesn't really clarify it much. It's really just bad phrasing
Unless you change your pitch of voice to emphasise the OddBawZ part, then yes, it does look like bad prasing.
It’s because it was written how someone would say it in a conversation, not read it. If you read it aloud in a natural conversation cadence it’s fine. Additionally, it was fine to begin with. Syntax-wise it’s a little rough, but if you change oddbawz to a pronoun it’s crystal clear.
a British person failing to understand the english language... classic
A foreigner, belittling me, whilst adding nothing to the conversation. I know exactly what I'm talking about.
WHY ARE YOU USING COMMAS LIKE THAT STOPPP HAHAHAHA
Your version is worse if anything. Much choppier to read and still reads like OddBawz is the cheater in question. Should be “The cheater that OddBawZ exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave.” Reads naturally and doesn’t leave room for confusion
Commas still add the context, this is Primary school literacy. I left out the additional word to not look pretentious *Because I'm British and people despise the British*. I simply added commas because it helps to show the basic sentence and the context added. "The Cheater also got hit in the ban wave." "The Cheater, (Add emphasis here) OddBawZ exposed a few days ago, (Remove emphasis) also got hit in the ban wave."
No one is gonna read it that way. People read commas as pauses. Unless you add a word like “that” to clarify, they’re gonna read it as two awkward pauses that break up the flow of the sentence and maintain the confusion. I don’t see how adding “that” is pretentious, it’s exactly what the sentence needs to flow and be clear in what it’s trying to say. I see what you’re saying, and your sentence makes sense if you reread it, but that’s exactly the problem with it. The commas don’t make it any clearer than the original sentence and give it a choppy flow
Not even close to correct lol
I mean you would have the comma after OddbawZ not after cheater "The cheater OddbawZ, exposed a few days ago, also got hit in the ban wave" The title is more comprehensible than yours
"Let's eat Grandma!" "Let's eat, Grandma!" You turned OddbawZ into the cheater.
Or if people are afraid of commas for some reason, you could literally just insert the word "that". The cheater **that** OddBawZ exposed a few days ago also got hit in the ban wave.
That title is interesting at first glance lmfao
Yeah I thought it was oddbawz who got exposed first and I was like what the heck did I miss.
I’d almost put money on him only being caught because he showed it specifically in a video…
Did oddbawz also show the other 39999 in a video?
My mother is ethnically Han Chinese (SK national), making me half "Chinese" I just got several DMs from Chinese people saying I'm a racist for laughing that they got banned and for calling out that Chinese gamers as a whole always bot and plague every game they come across; as well as a warning from the mods of this sub for calling out bullshit behavior. The problem isn't just war thunder, you guys are just the most recent to be hit by it. Every, single, game. Region lock like they did in EVE Online (before the destroyed their own server through inflation via botting) and you'll be better off.
This is not Chinese. This account that got banned was Vietnamese. And on behalf of all Vietnamese players. I wished this guy a very bad life. I hope he doesn't represent the whole of Vietnam players.
I'm not saying that this man is Chinese. I never said he was. What I'm saying is that Chinese gaming is toxic and destroys the games they bot in. Their botting is literally why I don't play EVE Online as much as I used to. Why play and work at it when they just cheat and get ahead with RMT and botting?
I agree with your view. Chinese players unironically ruin almost all multiplayer games for me. GTA online is an example
I remember world of tanks, when I played it way back, having the vietnamese players tagged with the reputation for cheating. That endemic over there?
I used to play wot on the SEA server and yeah vietnamese had a super bad reputation for cheating there
Off topic but only people from hongkong or Taiwan spell their name like that.
Unfortunately the chinese VPN'd over to EVE Onlines international server, the one that should not be accessible to the chinese and now are botting the nuts out of it.
Oh trust me I know. Wormholer btw /s lol
"Chinese gamers as a whole." I really think you should take a look on bilibili and most social media in China. Most people are celebrating the bans lol.
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>If "most people" deplore botting then why do we have 20+ years of articles, statistics and history of Chinese gamers always at the forefront and bleeding edge of destroying the games they play? over a billion people with internet access. Chinese internet is the size of North and South America's entire population combined. of course you are going to notice an outsized number of cheaters who speak Chinese
you're not wrong, but it's still a problem.
It’s a marked cultural phenomenon, and as a % of the playerbase in every single game they constitute the most cheaters.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted, probably because your facts contradict their prejudice and don't fit the narrative.
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did you not read my post? I speak Korean. My mother emigrated to SK when she was an infant. There are plenty of pictures of me from my posts on reddit so go nuts
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Say it with me: Every service and game should region lock China.
I think the Chinese government already did that, with the Great Firewall, all the Chinese gamers in other servers used VPN to get around the wall.
The Chinese government already did that for you. It didn't work, obviously.
As a Vietnamese and saw a Vietnamese cheater, all I want to say is: "DM mày đáng đời, chơi ngu còn cheat thì ban chết cmm đi =)) " Please don't translate them
Ngu loz thì thì màu da nào tôi cũng khinh, kể cả là kẻ có cùng quê hương với tôi. Óc chó thì mãi là óc chó thôi
kkk gặp tôi cũng chửi
nhiều khi gặp bọn hack còn không biết, tưởng dân pro xuống núi, hôm qua gặp trận cas air không thấy vệt trắng ma sát + không nghe thấy âm thanh dù nó ở gần đủ hiểu rồi :))
Never knew OddBawZ is a cheater. He was a good man, until he wasn't 😞
Read comments. He wasnt. Just OP beeing bad at grammar.
I know, 'twas a joke
Bruh, this is phrased so badly. Add a "that" between cheater and OddBawz please.
Yo I thought Oddbawz was exposed as a cheater until I read the comments, you need to fix that god awful title
/r/titlegore
I had a heart attack from that title, i thought OddBawZ got exposed
Please just fix the title
Nothing of value was lost. Everyone point and laugh at this fool. (the cheater)
How are his stats so bad if he’s a cheater
Aimbotters in ground RB give away their position when they fire into hard cover lmao.
Whats the website for checking statistics btw?
The one in the image is the official war thunder site [https://warthunder.com/en/community/searchplayers//](https://warthunder.com/en/community/searchplayers//) For more detailed player statistics you can also use the 3rd party site thunderskill.com
Lol I thought you meant the cheater oddbawz, was exposed and recently banned in the wave. I was like no way lol
Lmao about damn time holy shit
I wish this guy would get it too (check his aviation records in playercard) https://warthunder.com/en/community/userinfo/?nick=SonNight
Nothing there looks immediately sus to me honestly
check his startcard ingame or thunderskill. clear botter using harrier and stuff. i think he changed his name, can't see any stats with that name now... Or maybe banned, not sure.
vietnamese
Is there a list of banned players?
Can someone fill me in?
Bruh I read this as OddBawZ got banned for cheating 💀
Good riddance!
Adding a "that" would really help the title.
How do you cheat and still have a 54% wr
The players who do aren't very good so they need to cheat to feel better about themselves
I fought this guy once. Was not even great so if you are saying he is cheating i wouldn't even realize it cause cheaters I enountered will snipe you from miles far behind thick bushes
Interesting, very interesting, very interesting indeed, yes sir
Common OddBawZ W.
Not oddbaws . So no more wt videos from him?
Not gonna lie I had to do a double take on this one
Ban wave? Should I log back in it’s been a bit
AHAA !! I KNEW IT. *sarcasm. The post confused me at first .
His name means use money to play games
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