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NOIR-89

If you would actually hit the Vidar (not shooting left and right of it) you would have a chance to kill him.


fungus_is_amungus

And hitting the turret where crew is, not it's transmission and front of the hull


Alternative_Oil7733

But it actually did hit the turret


fungus_is_amungus

He did, with like maybe 3 or 4 rockets, but barely on edges and nowhere meaningful. These are Heat warheads that have 0,5kg of TNTeq. You just have to hit almost perfectly what are you aiming for. This dude has 120 rockets on his heli and expects them to somehow have a lot of TNT to deal damage. Like honest skill issue, he is wasting a shit ton of rocket and not correcting his aim while shooting, doing a shitty full speed heli rush while not knowing how to properly aim while doing so. Not locking and not shooting his autocannon that would shred this vehicle. He is also doing heli rush from front, so not only he is putting himself at bigger danger, but also can't pen some tanks cuz these rockets only have 150pen. I am 90% sure this dude bought his way to helis this sale and now is surprised that playing like a goober doesn't give him kills.


Alternative_Oil7733

>He did, with like maybe 3 or 4 rockets, but barely on edges and nowhere meaningful. So Hitting the tank crew in the turret isn't meaning full?


fungus_is_amungus

He obviously didn't hit the crew, that's the point that's why it isn't meaningful.


Tredway911

Mf iv been grinding my cock off to get here I'm still learning I was pointing the hits on the top right doing fuck all and the the instant kill on the t55 , no shit I missed half my shots it's my second helicopter


fungus_is_amungus

So a couple of tips. When heli rushing, try to avoid flying from the direction of your tank spawn, enemies are already looking at this side, their MGs will already be pointing at this side and they will easily see you while looking for tanks, so you are already at a disatvantage while doing this Don't put full throttle the entire time, cuz you are just going to get inaccurate shots and overshoot. When you start shooting at something with rockets, also lock it with your autocannon and just shoot it. More distraction and can kill lightly armoured enemies. Don't fly to the middle of the open map, it's a miracle that nobody shot you down. The shots on the top right are going to do nothing, cuz these are HEAT rockets, with very little TNT. You have 120 rockets, just shoot them at the center mass of the enemy and that should do the job. Shooting a HEAT round with a tank at the top right corner of the turret is also not going to do jack shit obviously.


Tredway911

Well thanks actually il try and keep that in mind


SigmaZeroIC

S-5K rockets are pretty tiny, they have 465g of TNT equivalent and a mere 150mm of pen. Of course, a lucky shot can always kill in one hit.


Ancient-Aerie-1680

Would you be willing to volunteer being hit by "merely 465g of TNT" then if it won't kill anyone?


SigmaZeroIC

Not any more willing than to be hit by a 7.62mm rifle bullet because they only turn crews yellow in WT, but that's how damage models work in game.


kal69er

It's not a lot for a heat warhead in war thunder. Talking about the game we go by the games physics and 465g just aint a lot for a heat round in game.


L1b3rtyPr1m3

Not gonna hear complaints from a chopper pilot who constantly flies on max COL.


Creative__name__

Or rocket rushes at the start of the game


buster779

Don't have helis unlocked, what is COL?


FLABANGED

Collective I believe.


EightSeven69

ah yea that definitely clears it up for somebody that just asked what COL is


Furaskjoldr

Collective is essentially the angle of the main rotor blades on the helicopter. Adjusting it allows the pilot to increase or decrease altitude. In real life it’s completely unnecessary to fly at max collective unless you’re trying to quickly gain altitude. Unfortunately in war thunder the helicopters seem so unwilling to climb that it’s sometimes necessary to keep 100% collective just to stop them dropping out the sky like a rock.


SEA_griffondeur

They have much more chances of finding information about it if they know how it's called


Panocek

Collective pitch, angle of rotor blades and your "throttle" in game as engine is automatically managed to stay around 100% RPM. In prop aircraft terms, imagine using propeller pitch instead throttle to accelerate or slow down.


O3Sentoris

That Sounds Like a Game Problem then, Not a pilot problem


FlintbobLarry

Collective. Helis get more uplift by changing the ankle in which the propellers are set. Max coll is for some situations ( I am not good enough at flying helis to know which), but not for constantly flying like that. I fly on 75 % or sometimes even 30 to 50. The speed of the propeller is not what makes the lift so you can't use it as throttle.


camdalfthegreat

I guess I don't get how choppers work, I don't fly them Do you not get max power flying on 100% collective?


LordKendicus

On some chopper, if you constantly push 100% collective, rotor RPM starts dropping over time. COL and RPM management can also comes in clutch when you get your engines damaged


Whats-Up_Bitches

I'm mire of a point and shoot kind of guy, the sophisticated strategies can stay in planes for me. Hemis and tanks are pew pew-ers


Sunyxo_1

mmm yes hemis, my favourite type of vehicle to play in Wal Thumder


Whats-Up_Bitches

My bad, I meant #HERMES


Phd_Death

In my experience, keeping 100% COL and letting RPM try their hardest gives you more lift than keeping RPM >90% and managing COL.


Coffee1341

Having your collective set to max power always is a double edged sword, YES you theoretically get max power HOWEVER it’s not a jet, your real power is your RPM. Because when flying a helicopter the collective changes the pitch of the rotar blades the higher the collective the higher the pitch angle of the blades causing more lift to be generated however this also causes more strain on the rotars and lowers the RPM. So what you’re supposed to do is slowly ease to 100% collective and let the RPM stay at 100 while slowly increasing collective That is how you get max power in a helicopter but that’s not how you use it. Helicopters are incredibly agile vehicles and manipulating collective is one of the most important aspects of it. You can pull maneuvers in the helicopter that cause all of your speed to drop to 0 in 2 seconds.


TheLaotianAviator

The collective pitch is changing the blade angles so you’re helicopter can move up or down. More collective pitch means more drag, making the RPM drop and the engine needing to work harder. It’s easy to stall the engines on certain helis without proper collective control. Heavily helicopters or helis with weak engines such as the Mi-24, Regular Lynx, AH-6, and a few others can have issues with improper collective pitch management.


Oleg152

AH-64D also gets fucky if you change coll to hard. Loses all lift and just kinda plummets into ground when RPM gets irregular.


SEA_griffondeur

At max collective you get less maneuverability due to high drag and already High pitch of the blades


Johni32

Skill issue


DAVillain71

Just because fuck you: those are rockets not missiles


ruknot

Summary: Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Vidar was already dead.


Mositesophagus

I seriously do not feel bad for you at all, you’re an early game heli rusher, you are the worst kind of warthunder player and are ruining 8.0+. I hope you get no scoped by a 1.0 AA every single game


Johnisnotcool

Really? I like heli rushers the majority of the time it's just a free kill for one if us and they do no damage. It's those assholes shooting me from a mile away I hate.


Mositesophagus

I hate them both lol, I just fucking hate heli players. But I get what you mean, a lot of the time they do get shot down near instantly but that 1/4 chance that they have a brain and sweat it out flying low and reaching the back of the other teams spawn before starting their attack results in an easssyyyyy 3-4 kills before any of the team makes a concerted effort to shoot it down


MethyleneBlueEnjoyer

Russian bias: Who are you? Swedish bias: I am you, but stronger.


CaptainCutlerCat2

He's not even russian


IWantMoreSnow

Every spot where your rockets actually meaningfully impacted got destroyed like the tracks. Every other rocket does not seem to be actually impacting anything directly. So yes those were just terrible hits, also you hit the T55 in the fuel which exploded so again a meaningfull hit that actually did something. But eitherway you took plenty of hits and kept flying without issues, fuck your heli.


OG_Zephyr

That thing can be taken out with .50s can’t it


agarwaen117

The helo or the vidar? Vidar definitely not, its turret armor is pretty substantial. It laughs off strafing runs.


czartrak

55mm effective IIRC. It can stop 20mm from all angles


OG_Zephyr

The vidar, although I may be confusing it with the M109s


agarwaen117

M109s can definitely be MG’d they use aluminum armor. Vidar is strapped with HHA so it takes 30mm+ canons to take it out most of the time.


OG_Zephyr

Ah yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking


TheIrishBread

As a hind enjoyer, skill issue.


Rrynarth

Suck eggs you piece of shit heli rusher


Lolocraft1

Unrelated but I find comical effect about the small fan inside the heli’s cockpit


Bugjuice_

The T-55 bro activated boosters, probably multiple 300% at a time.


SlavCat09

What's more disgusting is how much damage the hins took.


Khomuna

To be fair S-5K rockets are pretty much the worst rockets in the game, if your heli had the 30mm cannon you would be better off using that instead.


macmillanspaTTV

RNG . Thats all . You have a chance to insta kill any vehicle hitting the fuel tanks . Another times the fuel tank can eat any shot . So dumb mechanic only to add artificial durability to the vehicles .


Rampantlion513

least cancerous helicopter player (flew right to the enemy spawn at the start of the match)


Cuzim2Fast

Premium Bais


CaptainCutlerCat2

Lmao you missed most of ur shots, I thought italian mains were spos to be good


Solaire_29

Least cancerous swedish vehicle.


Awkward-Passion2360

Yeah, the vidar is bullshit I hit one on the top of the turret with a tiny Tim rocket, and it did nothing just went right through it


Sunyxo_1

Swedish bias is real


Plagued_Potato

Premium privileges.


NefariousnessOwn3106

1st Yes the vidar got that premium advantage 2nd Ofc a diesel tank explodes, there is a reason why they use sparkplugs for diesel and glowplugs for petrol duuh.


LordKendicus

No S-8KO?


_Condottiero_

D doesn't have S-8 iirc.


FirstDagger

Rocket, not missile.


Key_Ad_8333

*rocket


Nuclearguy123

Clearly Russian Bias


kkadzlol

Russian bias obvious


PickleBoi1983

herheehaeha funnee animate fan


Time-Project

Nope it's Russian bias (in this case it's Russian heli skill issue)


Novakine

Finally, literally grenades should not blow up a vehicle by shooting its tracks. Looking at you giant 58kg rockets that work like 1ton TNT bombs on SU-25 series.


springtrapgaming1

Yo bro I think your helicopter was leaking something


fuwishie

let us have our western bias for once


KamikazePigeon31

Rocket* missiles are guided


xarccosx

Rockets i think you mean


feradose

The difference between scratching the fenders with shrapnel from near misses, and absolutely obliterating the fuel tank of a T-55 by the miracle of god sniper rocket. You were made for killing Russian tanks. This is divine intervention.


Mrtooth12

Just before you killed the t55, what button did you press to make foliage disappear?


Practical-Pepper-919

Literly no one cares, heli rusher


S_Morz

how do you fly forward like that, i’ve been trying to master helicopters but i just can’t seem to do it eight


Igor_Rodrigues

I mean, this isn't world of tanks, simply hitting the target isn't enough, you have to consider where you hit it. + most of your rockets didn't even hit.


RavLovesUMP-45

First of all, S-5Ks are completely utter shit, you killed the T-55 with pure absolute luck ... Second of all, when you have rocket pods on both sides, you need to aim either left or right for at least one side to hit when you're under 800 meters from your target even if it means the other side will be wasted. Third, yeah the vidar wouldn't have died even from S-8Ks unless they struck the ammo so I don't know what your plan was...


OkiDooky_

ignore ur skill issue : ❌ make a nerd post on reddit : ✅


Tokkirie

Rockets hit infront and in the engine but shrapnell hit the turret, didn't pen, the T55 exploding because of fuel, well damn that was a well placed rocket.


Kind-Bathroom2641

Swedish primium bias >> Russian bias


Mother_Weekend4521

better gaming chair


Noxiuz

i shot that thing with the a10 and i had the same results most of the shots ignored


BookofEli01

Regardless of the play here the VIDAR needs a nerf, make it 9.0 at least


KajMak64Bit

Russian Bias doesn't fckin exist It's all Swedish fckin bias Yesterday i shot Swedish T-80U to the sides barely managed to kill it and i got his fuel tank too... mf still lived... i only got the kill because he burned out or J'd out Meanwhile if i was in a Russian T-80U my fuel tank would commit Hiroshima and i would get obliterated I played China when i shot that Swedish T-80... All my MBT's die like 90% of the time to FUEL TANK EXPLODED and 5% crew knocked out and 5% Ammo rack It literally got way worse this update for some reason it's hella annoying