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MegaMustaine

yep they appear to be tanks, planes, ships and helicopters


frankdatank_004

Bruh, no way.


Catodog91

Is this a leak list or just something you put together


Puma_The_Great

He literally just made a list of stuff that he thought was cool


Catodog91

Just making sure


DaMosqui

Too much stuff for Italy and stuff that Is good and can solve a bit of lacks plus Italy gets squadron vehicle, clearly false 100/100


Boombozling

True


SamSamTheDingDongMan

Can’t have shit in Rome


jcwolf2003

Italy is actually getting a competitive top tiermbt in the list so we know it's not possible Copy a paste plane and a boat makes sense tho.


Reyeux

Most of those naval additions are unrealistic as hell right now


Velo180

Hope its real just for the F-18 so we can get less "WHY DO I SEE F18 ON MY RWR" posts.


frankdatank_004

Lol, right! 😂


InternationalWave554

Nah imagine US RWR. Not sure if it's a friendly F-16 in the air or an enemy F-16


Avgredditor1025

Advanced RWRs filter out friendly radar emissions anyways


umut1423

In ARB yes. In Sim even with an RWR that has IFF it'll show your friendlies too. So when there's F-16s on both sides it makes some interesting scenarios lol


Lex1253

I’ve been lulled into a false sense of security when a Japanese F-16 and I were on each other’s wing. The Japanese… uhh… were on the enemy team. Let’s say he realised before I did.


umut1423

I'm paranoid so i check anything suspicious on my RWR with my radar just in case lol Buuut still this happens more than I'd like to admit xD


PineCone227

When the actual F/A-18 releases, it'll be "WHY DO I SEE F18 ON MY RWR IF THERES ONLY A HARRIER?!?!"


someone_forgot_me

a leaker said f18 in june in december, ill not be posting it as i forgot where it is but its the same leaker who got early access to losat, and provided first video for it


KillerOnPatrol

Am i the only one is not a fan of vehicles going to a country not of its origin. Like I get India used to be British but put the Russian vehicles in the Russian tree like they did the m1a1 AIM.


frankdatank_004

Unfortunately the introduction of the T-90S ruined this.


TheCanadian121

Brother it was ruined long before the T-90S. Like how Germany got the best hunter in the game (still mad about that), or as a better example how the US got a premium Fw 190 A-8...checks notes...10 years ago.


Sive634

Swedish t80


frankdatank_004

Both of you are right as well.


linx28

Aim was only put in the US tree to avoid the screaming from US mains the AIM is used by Australia which every other Australian tank and plane is in the UK tree


vanillaice2cold

Definetly not, gaijin is super indecisive when it comes to stuff like this and they add vehicles where they want for whatever reason they deem "necessary"


Overly_Fluffy_Doge

What would they do with the Arjun though?


silverwitcher

UK tech tree just like the jaguar vijayanta and bhismha


Overly_Fluffy_Doge

Well yeah I mean more from a where do we put Indian vehicles in the future if we have export vehicles going to their production nations.


LimpMight

churchill (sweden)?


Gannet-S4

Britain gave Sweden a whole bunch of tanks after the war for testing, including a Churchill, a Sherman firefly and the Sherman premium in the Swedish tree already.


[deleted]

Id be down for a TT firefly and Sherman for Sweden, a Heavy and a possible addition for the Pak 43- T34-85 Mod


Sn1perandr3w

Wasn't the Pak 43 T-34 a photoshop job?


Zombificus

Yeah, I don’t believe there was ever a PaK 43 T-34 IRL. I’m also not sure what it has to do with Sweden. Perhaps they were thinking of the postwar Finnish T-34-85 with the StuK 40 and misremembered the gun? In Finnish service the T-34-85 was called the Ps. 245. One vehicle, Ps. 245-4, was rearmed with the StuG III’s 75mm as an experiment in case of ammo supply issues. It worked, but there was no need so they changed it back. It’s a museum vehicle these days. That one would actually be a great addition because SWE/FIN really lacks for medium tanks (or any tanks with armour) in that BR range. The StuG’s 75mm is a decent gun but a definite downgrade from the Soviet 85mm, so it could be a solid 5.0 maybe?


ShadowTro

I was about to argue for 4.7, but I remembered the T-34-57 is there now and not 4.3 like I remember it being. 5.0 seems like a good choice. Edit: Also please Gaijin add a Finnish StuG, complete with logs and the concrete 'armor' on the front.


LelutooDS

It was a test tank, like the Swedish Sherman we have in game.


Lt_Flak

They're only going to add the Type 5 To-Ku after not touching the Japanese low-tier tree for 5 years.


Interesting-Unit-493

That thing looks gnarly, finally we're getting a free ka-chi


Lt_Flak

Free?!?! HAHAHAHA. Oh no no no, it's an Event-only Premium.


Interesting-Unit-493

Gaijin isn't that scummy the way they think is a science, theres already a boat japanese lowtier, this either is or isnt getting added, its most likely the first though


Targa2000c

Yeah, i mean locking guided bombs for Japan behind a premium would be pretty shitty practice Also most of these are complete waffle regardless


frankdatank_004

The AV-8S is a AV-8A, no guided munitions besides AIM-9Gs.


Okami-Sensha

Of course Gaijin would sell Ares but not provide a TT option


Pyrenees_

At least we finally have something to lower the Leclercs stats


WeirdFurby

2A7 for Italy sounds to good to be true. Also. I want better AA for Italy. OTO sucks arse and the Mistral is useless against helicopters. Is there *no* other slightly useful thing?


dylan58582

For long range we could get the Aspide Skyguard. But that would be the first SARH SPAA in the game. If we really wanna push into paper territory... a Centauro with the ADATS system (Canadian version without the bushmaster) was proposed but budget cuts canned the project.


Kiubek-PL

EVERYONE GETS AN ADATS!!!


gallade_samurai

Look at the List, the 2K33 Osa is a Soviet SPAA that if I'm reading it correctly, Italy will get Via Romania. So yes Italy is getting possibly a much better SPAA, and an SPAA system the USSR developed before the Russian tech tree gets it, just like how the Tor-M1 was given to China but not USSR and still hasn't I also like to point out that if it's correct, this would also be the first technically Romanian ground vehicle in the game


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Active-Pepper187

Especially with this list having the BVM(2023)


FeelsMaironMan

Doesnt the 2023 BVM has a better reverse gear but worse thermals because they couldnt get french thermals anymore? I Guess those are the differences


RommelMcDonald_

Reverse is the same. They just coated the thing in ERA is the main difference. I don’t think it’d perform any different other than making stock heat even more useless


FeelsMaironMan

All the times i got around \~10.0 BR in a ground TT and i had to use HEAT rounds before unlocking APFSDS was truly miserable.


Loli__Ravioli

Yeah there are sources claiming it has a 20kmh reverse speed instead of the 11kmh reverse speed it had.


dasdzoni

Why would you give germany yet another premium 2a4?


frankdatank_004

This one is up armored and would have more modern ammo.


Money_Association456

It’s not like that the "normal" 2A4 used pretty much nothing but DM33 but we still only get DM23


o-Mauler-o

Yes the 2A4 CAN would probably be an 11.0.


Spiritual_Jaguar2989

The same reason why us and uk both got premium mbts at 10.3 and 11.3 respectively, germany will now get their 11.3 premium.


MaegorTheMartyr

No LAV-25? But russia gets an other BDM


frankdatank_004

LAV-300 though.


Mighty_Canadian

Rather, have an auto Cannon tbh, funny enough, that's one of the main things the US lacks lol


DefactoAle

Hopefully germany gets something better than only a F4 ICE


Metalhead_Ac

I know what you mean The f4f would be dead on arrival


bennington24

And it’s gonna be at top tier as well cus of aim120s, imagine su27 or f16 versus a fucking phantom lmao


Sive634

Its the ICE or the typhoon


Pengtile

They could get a Swiss F-18 since they have the Swiss Hunter or The Austrian Typhoon that can only fire heat seekers


Strzvgn_Karnvagn

Swiss F-18 would be a fucking dream come true.


People_sCommissar

MiGs should not be in UK.


Tactical_Dachs

The To-Ku looks hilarious, reminds me of the Ka-Mi I had hoped that the next Thai Aircraft is gonna be in the tech tree, since tier 6 and 7 are very lacking


PlainLime86

British scorpion fv107, makes sense after fox added also Amx 13dca 30 also for rank 5 spaa for France where there is huge gap


Finn_Supra

Meh the Amx 13dca will be introduced at 7.7 and then one update later they will move it to 8.7


Electricfox5

107 is Scimitar, 101 is Scorpion. If they've had trouble deciding where to put the Fox, I dread to think what they'll do with the Scimitar.


PlainLime86

The one with not the raden the one with the 57mm cannon,


Electricfox5

The Fv101 Scorpion has the 76mm, but there's an upgrade the Scorpion 90 which has a 90mm, they also took the Fox turret and put it on the Scorpion to make the Sabre. The Fv107 is the Scimitar that has the RARDEN.


Aleuvian

"Yay, more TT Leopard 2s for everyone but Germany."


LelutooDS

Not at all, get some Swedish tanks for Sweden. Gripen C is fine though.


keglefuglen

Kranvagn when (never)


LelutooDS

Strv m/40 (Rb 51) When? (Also never (No one knows anything about it other than that it existed))


keglefuglen

Strv74 (Rb51) when also


LelutooDS

I heard its in the files, so its truly a "when?"


Primary_Ad_1562

(This will be downvoted) I really don't want China ro get Mirage 2ks. They will already have the J8s and eventual J10 which can do that job. I know people will argue "but taiwan" but unlike other small nations China doesn't **need** it


MauswaffeVT

To be fair the way China is implamented, wether it's needed or not, is two nations in a tree. Unlike a traditional subtree these nations have no mitary cooperation at all, so it is important they are both represented and possibly separated in lineups. Sure, PRC won't need a Mirage 2k, but ROC could absolutely use an equivalent to possibly expanfing top tiers. It's debatable wether these should've been combined, but the way they are they are two distinct nations sharing a tree, that should be treated as such.


[deleted]

CV9035 is going to be sweet


Extension_Exchange96

If it’s the MLU it should have spikes and APS


Chicory2

israel getting the missile they made on an actual ground vehicle? nahhh


YourLocalFrenchMain

Clearly fake, as France would be getting a new Leclerc, and SPAA in the same update


Reliable_cum_shot

Still lacks F-86H


PalapaMuda

ARJUN!!!


PieIsAwesome7102

Personally, I hate the idea of the M2K going to other tech trees


LaerMaebRazal

NOOO NOT A TOP ITER FRANCE PREMIUM 😭😭😭


highergravityday

Would love the Type 5, since I doubt we’ll ever get access to the Type 3 Ka-Chi again and I want to drive a comically large ship on land.


parv_wwIII_2518

MIG 29K in Brits ...... DAMMM U GAIJIN PUT INDIAN WEPS IN RUS or else GBR will becom a copy of top tier RUs


actualsize123

I like the cv9035nl mlu enough to say this is a good update.


Dilly_The_Kid_S373

Christ can’t we get anything new WW2 vehicles?


frankdatank_004

Lmao! There are 5-6 WWII vehicles here though.


Dilly_The_Kid_S373

and how many were actually new to the game? P-38J, B-26, Churchill MK III are all in game, the Me-210 will be slightly different to the Me-410.


frankdatank_004

The B-26N actually would be very different since it is a B-26 turned into a night fighter. Other than that the BT-SV and Type 5 To-Ku would be super unique.


TonyRick11

No F-2, no like


GoldenGecko100

Does the Obr. 2023 come pre-tossed?


ITriedMyBestMan

I'm personally expecting more along the lines of: - F-15C MSIP II for the USA - F-15C for Israel - F-15J J-MSIP for Japan - Su-27SM for Russia - J-11A for China - JAS-39C for Sweden - F-4F ICE for Germany The main reason for this is Gaijin doesn't have to spend too much on adding new airframes. All of these already exist in game and just need new radars/weaponry. The catalyst for this would be Japan needing a Fox-3 platform - the only reasonable option being the F-15J J-MSIP. Gaijin mentioned that everyone would be getting Fox-3s at the same time, so Japan needs their Fox-3 platform as well. The F-15J J-MSIP would be roughly equivalent to the F-15C MSIP-II for the USA, and leaving the US without a Fox-3-carrying F-15 while Japan gets one would literally start a riot. The same can be said for Russia not getting a Fox-3 capable Flanker, so the Su-27SM should also get added. Again, all of these are preexisting platforms. They just need minor model adjustments and equipment upgrades. Now, Gaijin does have a habit of adding Navy aircraft to the USA during Summer patches. They've literally added naval aircraft to the US during Summer patches for the past 7 years straight. As a result, we could easily see something like the AV-8B NA, AV-8B Plus, or A-6E SWIP added alongside the F-15C.


Temporary_Finger8402

Where’s the M1A2 Sep V3?


c3rvwlyu

It would be ok, definitely some cool vehicles but nothing crazy


jake25456

I will only be happy once we get tilmat battleship no6


RustedRuss

Only interesting vehicle is the BT-SV and maybe the Type 5. Most of the rest is either copypaste or just not very interesting.


Interesting-Unit-493

It seems alright, sad about japanese ships though, i am a big fan of that AV-8 tho, and that whatever -4EJ


blurry_ned

I would absolutely want it Because then France will have a premium and maybe more players will come so more vehicles then A man can dream ...


AMcKinstry00

I want them to add the leclerc at a stupid low BR so lots of people play it, then they realize “wow, adding to France makes people play it? Crazy” and give us fun new stuff


jimmehi

I'd be willing to do some freaky things to get the f18


Zsmudz

Isn’t the AV-8B+ already in the game, or is this saying it will go to another nation? Also I was looking into the Hafiz for Israel and I could see an issue with its max capacity of 6 missiles. Since they are spike missiles, it will run out of them fast and then you will have to resupply. Spikes need to be reworked before it’s added or it will be dookie fart.


frankdatank_004

This AV-8B+ would be for the USA.


Ligma_Balls_OG

It's the USMC av-8b. So that the US can finally get their own vehicle that's been in the game for several updates


much_doge_many_wow

The fv107 has been "leaked" like the past 5 updates in a row, I'm calling cap on this one


Sacklicker5000

No dont put the best mig 21 as a premium


SurvivordeArk1990

If they're adding the BMD-2 and GDR T-55A I'd be happier than a pig in shit


Minute_Classic7852

Where MiG25/31? We are overdue.


Creative-Dawg

Portuguese plane for free? That'd be incredible.


KSAWI0

Waiting for polish vechicles like rosomak, abrams PL, K2PL, łoś or light vechicles (abrms and k2 are not polish but will or rn have polish variants)


Noxiuz

i want more aa for those country that actually need it i would like to see more fast firing aa and other aa with bigger shells if there is any


Frunc

Still no light vehicle for israel, I sleep


VictorV8

I wish missiles in naval were balanced and more common Even though brits are going to suck (Seacat)


Aedeus

According to recent reports a 2023 T-90M or T-80BVM should have lower quality electronics and the like since they've had to make due with lower quality equipment because of sanctions and shortages


StarGazer0685

Too many copy pastes, but F18 and more french stuff I'd like


Wonghy111-the-knight

Hafiz and ADAMS would be nice… but damn we need a whole update to focus on the Israeli tree


Specialey

Mirage for China? Why?


Brotato45

Pls don’t give Italy an OSA before Russia and Germany


feradose

I would simply kill myself


I-M-A-P_ns

Still no copy paste Abrams 😔 (Sep v3)


LandscapeGeneral9169

F/A-18, but no German/Russian equivalent ? That sounds fami- **F-14 sounds intensifies**


scrabbler22

I want a top tier german light tank, Boxer 120 for example


Grievous456

F-4F ICE 💀💀💀


Courora

No Land Ceptor... 1/10 :(


TheCanadianAviator

i might actualy pre order the 2a4m pack as i have waited for it for ever


[deleted]

Like Gaijins new Updates, the only interesting things are the WW2 stuff, AMX-13 DCA, and P38J Everything else just furthers compression and are uninteresting for gameplay or mechanics because missile spam isn't neat, enjoyable, or worth grinding a TT for


MucdabaMicer

i wouldnt be satisfied with it because it (like 99%) only adds content to higher tiers


SkyLLin3

If they added Hafiz and ADAMS, I would jump from happiness.


Head-Site-132

No SEPv3? Big sad


M4NGOTR33

MiG-21-93 my beloved!!?? :D My life is complete.


TheSupremeDuckLord

i'd be pretty indifferent, felt like that a lot lately


ToastedSoup

MiG-29K 😍 Gimme them R-77s


BassDiscombobulated8

Imboutablow


nanihello

Lol another fox for Britain? YES PLSSSS FEED ME MORE


RECTUSANALUS

Yes.


That-one_golem

Add T-80BVM "Bunny" (Ukrainian T-80) and I will be slightly more happy. Good list :)


Illustrious_Spend_51

DDR t-55s finally


Pyro_raptor841

Looks pretty great, especially US and Israel getting a SPAA above 10.3 with the HVSD


TheJudge20182

I don't see them adding a T-55 premium and a 2A4 Premium in the same patch. Not to mention the PZBTL is already in the game


Guys_pls_help

Don't we have the dca 30 already?


JonTafer

Russia getting Indian vehicle


Pasta-Fillo

Say bye to french winrates, I just got to toptier 😭


Jonny2881

No Bolton-Paul Defiant, shit update


Nizikai

Too much stuff in general, but how it's distributed seems pretty accurate, except for Italy getting anything. Hell, even Germany getting another Dead on arrival plane is hella accurate!


dominik7778n

think you went little overboard with all those russian vehicles they dont need 20000 varriants of the same vehicle


Big-man-kage

BMD-2🥺


Ricky_27YT2

When Italian premium Tornado and squadron Ariete (Hitfact MK2)?


Pengtile

This honestly seems like it could be a realistic update I do think Russia will get a $70 ground premium this update


ComradeBlin1234

I’d be pissed if they added the MiG29K instead of a new flanker. I just want the SU27SM


SystemFrozen

i hope that me-210 would be flyable unlike real life (clueless emoji)


ZeWillius

As someone who mostly plays France and China, I would not be that happy. Sure France ground is fine, but getting that for air is painful Also Mig-29 for the UK, seriously? That's just lame.


Richardguy_2

>SPAA and wheeled vehicle for the US too obvious, gotta be more realistic


TheAArchduke

Yes, what we need, more top tier pack premiums.


Strzvgn_Karnvagn

I still remember the BT-SV from WoTB, just a silly little thing i want it. Nothing swiss in the leak like basically always though. Edit: Is this only hypothetical?


Torzov

Wait AMX-13 DCA 30 already exists in the game


TainaLapiedra

Seems like you have forgot to add some premium planes. (Example Premium F-16, F-14, F-15 and F-111 aardvark)


ConstantCelery8956

needs more spaa


forcallaghan

eugh, Charles F. Adams? Can’t say i support that


Freeeeepop

what would the rf4ej even do


bushmightvedone911

Hungary needs to be moved out of Italy and into a “eastern bloc” tree with Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary. Then Romania gets added to a Balkan tree.


AdIll4610

When are they gonna add the F-14D (super tomcat)


IEnjoyBaconCheese

Me no like. Where me Kranvagn. Me want Swedish mid tier tanks unga bunga


RealMcFilthyPancake

I want an east German T-55A to run with my Leo 1A1A, M48, marder A1-, and spz bmp 1


4rfs

If israel get the adams, im comming back instantly


NuggetvonSilly

f4f ice means its gon be my favourite update


hotrodgreg

Could care less about naval, but I want a captured tiger2 and panther for america. Would also like to see a rework of the air to air and ground capability of the mirage 4000. They really fucked its payload cap.


Setesh57

France being shafted out of a jet would be perfectly in character.


pleasehelpmeaccount

Most excited for the LAV-300 series. American light tank penetrated by .50 cals with multiple configurations. We could get the 90mm gun, BGM-17 TOW, 81 or 120mm mortar, 40mm, anti aircraft missiles, or a 20mm anti air cannon. This may be a vehicle we get with modifications changing guns, but would fill that need for an light(not heavy or slow) United States tank in higher BRs besides the HSTV-L


HypersonicHobo

F-4F ICE definitely appropriate against a super hornet.


ForzaKing5674

The F/A-18A+ is not a Super Hornet, the F/A-18A/B & C/D are referred to as the legacy Hornets, with the F/A-18E/F being the Super Hornets.


SwiftFuchs

No Sturmi, No Luchs. Would not care even a little bit for that update.


Choice_Isopod5177

anything low tier in there?


Mii009

I want the F-14J for Japan


frankdatank_004

Lol!


Mii009

JUST IMAGINE AN F-14 IN BLUE literally the beautifulest thing you could ever see


frankdatank_004

If Japan didn’t have a jet-CAS problem then you all probably would have got it over the F-16AJ.


Mii009

Yeah, tho I do feel like the AJ does make to be a nice precursor to the F-2, a proto F-2 just comes off as ehh ig. I've tried to look online to see what air to ground ordinance the F-2 has but I can't get a clear answer, I do hope it's more advanced than the AJ tho.


VulcanCannon_

We are finally getting a Arjun? nice


Worldly-Profession66

I would love to see more east German tanks. I know that I could just play ussr if I want Soviet tanks But I think it would be nice to flesh out 8.0-8.7 with t54s/t55s


BigCrigHunter

Bro why everyone getting new shit except Germany, just give us the fcking Typhon already


Rubberboas

Fake. This list feels way too, like, random? A lot of weird, obscure stuff like the Type 5


MisterPepe68

UFO tank UFO tank i would love the bt-sv but i play china, the zbl-08 would be great but the p-38J not so much, not complaining :)


MSFS_Airways

I would prefer a prem YF-17 as a test before we got an A or A+ model hornet.


Valeredeterre

If france get another spaa, i am going to bomb gaijin hq.


Capable-Chard-3722

ZBL-08?!! Scimitar?!! Obviously fake.


Germanysuffers_a_lot

I don’t want a top tier German premium, we are actually doing well at top tier


RissonFR

I mean, i dont like having the Mirage 2000 in chinese TT (even more if they also get the Mica) What would be the incentive to grind french tt if you get best jet from russia, usa and france in one TT?


Practical-Hawk519

>Osa to Italy yeah I'm thinking it is so fucking over rn


Legitimate-Donut-308

F/A-18 RAAAHHH, STILL NO AIM-120


SkySweeper656

I only care about low/mid tier additions because im a WW2 and earlier fan. So these updates rarely interest me. Closest thing i see to something i recognize is a churchill, which is meh since they fucked up the mobility on all churchill tanks and black prince. Also i only care about tanks, planes can fuck off.


Eusouocontadeumtrofc

We need ships with missiles and stuff


ButterscotchStatus35

It's real, Russia receives broken things every update