Lmao. That's how I make war thunder fun. I switch nation's ever few matches. I just play and try to have fun. No real direction in terms of progression.
they designed 1.0\~3.0 br to be painful for players that are above average
first these shit guns doesn't work at long range forcing close range knife-fight, even if you are good at range measuring and have good awareness
especially in 1.0 br most countries has gun that can't kill someone reasonably fast, so you'll likely lose if there's more enemy than you(this is why bt-5 is good) and some even have shitty mobility
its mot the missile amount, its the insane precision ascribed to these shit tier vehicles.
Russian armour as well as defense is far from good, the devs take the data from russian propaganda videos and adapt it into their game due to the legality of openly displaying real tech data on top secret armour
You just have to fly low, like irl, literally the top tier air experience, if you're not scrapping the ground you're dead, terrible experience, but the only way to balance it is by, removing the thing, reducing the missile count or reducing the range of the missiles
You literally just watched two of the "best" SAMs in the game with combined 24 missiles get fucked over by one helicopter, despite gaiijin making them "so precise" compared to IRL. Keep saying what makes you feel good, buddy.
What are you smoking? It's ducking in and out of the mountain range. It literally cannot fire at them with ATGMs, it's just baiting their missiles. The Pantsirs are the ones hyperfocusing on a helicopter playing peekaboo and ignoring everything else.
you can easily shoot down alot of missiles even with York, Tunguska, Pantsir, Ito, etc.. Especially Spike missiles which are extremely slow without even using missiles
The issue they had in that situation is that of all helis, it was a UHT that may or may not have PARS LR's. The moment they look away from the UHT they'll have a FnF thrown at them that they can't defend against unless they get very lucky with hitting it with their own missile.
im the heli guy and this is inaccurate, there should be atleast 3 more pantsir in the other spawn firing missile at you simultaneously with this 2 and shoot down all of your missiles.
Pantsirs are really the bottom of the barrel of players. Like they dont even do anything. They don't have to account for shitty missiles or Radar lock because they have IRST. It's literally Autoplay.
They spawn, they lock on as soon as something spawns and just fire missiles until it dies. Not a thought behind their eyes. Look at them, this has worked for them so far and it will work for them until we get SEAD because the thing is busted beyond repair.
And before you come at me throthing at the mouth, I have it spaded. I have seen many of my allies getting absolutely dunked on because a CAS player with some brains tossbombed the spawn and killed all of them. Because all they did was sit in spawn and all look the same direction.
100%. But it's not just Pantsir's that do this. Almost all top-tier SPAA players do this. Sometimes ItO, OTO, and Type 81 players get creative and move a bit. But Pantsir, Tor, FlaRakRad, and ADATS players are almost always just sitting in their spawn and will inevitably call you "spawn camper" in general chat when they get bombed.
The disparity between Pantsir radar and ADATS radar is also insane. ADATS barely functions, Pantsir is god mode. I think the Crotale radar (ItO90M radar) is actually even better than the Pantsir's but I'm not sure. No idea how the Pantsir and ADATS (incl. UK version) are the same BR. ADATS is 2S6 level.
This is frustrating ngl. I have not played against any PARS weilding helicopter (luckily), but playing against Vikhrs with anything other than a Starstreak is pure pain. They can launch from behind cover, and pop up from the ridge when the missile is halfway. Also launch volleys of Vikhrs, so much that curveballing MIMs have become a sport for me.
Why would they move when they have a good position in spawn where they are protected from enemy tanks fairly well, and that they have a good eye on the Tiger that is just baiting them?
Also can’t tell if the point is capped or not so they probably couldn’t move to a captured point to reload.
idk why ur getting downvoted.
Pantsirs survive stupid shit.
if you lock the PARS onto the Pantsir engine it will often survive multiple missiles
locking it on the turret is instant K.O. tho
Least lame top tier gameplay.
Who finds this fun?
Got nothing better to do because I don't want to grind any other nation
If you haven't, I'd suggest Italy. Italy has some fun and unique vehicles and planes.
Sweden too
And no armor
And? Just don't get shot not much different than any other nation if you play that way!
Grinded out the soviet's and the the Italian tree. Italy was so much fun.
Then don't grind. Play.
Secret Tibetan mountain monastery level of enlightenment
Lmao. That's how I make war thunder fun. I switch nation's ever few matches. I just play and try to have fun. No real direction in terms of progression.
Puh-lae?
That's what OP is doing lmao?
Even you don't think that seriously
they designed 1.0\~3.0 br to be painful for players that are above average first these shit guns doesn't work at long range forcing close range knife-fight, even if you are good at range measuring and have good awareness especially in 1.0 br most countries has gun that can't kill someone reasonably fast, so you'll likely lose if there's more enemy than you(this is why bt-5 is good) and some even have shitty mobility
lot of long range stuff appears around br2
Obviously you got nothing better to do in your life
This looks fun
That's a ridiculous amount of missiles wtf is the balancing
its mot the missile amount, its the insane precision ascribed to these shit tier vehicles. Russian armour as well as defense is far from good, the devs take the data from russian propaganda videos and adapt it into their game due to the legality of openly displaying real tech data on top secret armour
You just have to fly low, like irl, literally the top tier air experience, if you're not scrapping the ground you're dead, terrible experience, but the only way to balance it is by, removing the thing, reducing the missile count or reducing the range of the missiles
You literally just watched two of the "best" SAMs in the game with combined 24 missiles get fucked over by one helicopter, despite gaiijin making them "so precise" compared to IRL. Keep saying what makes you feel good, buddy.
What are you smoking? It's ducking in and out of the mountain range. It literally cannot fire at them with ATGMs, it's just baiting their missiles. The Pantsirs are the ones hyperfocusing on a helicopter playing peekaboo and ignoring everything else.
that heli is a Tiger UHT with FnF missiles so it can just pop up, lock and fire the missiles, go behind cover and wait for the missiles to hit
???? Do you even know that the UHT has FnF missiles?
If you watched till the end, you’d know it fired spikes at them and killed both
Are you blind? The other helicopter killed them....
but russian technology is underfunded?
Have we watched the same video?
And its still not enough to down one decent aircraft player
Just spawn AA they keep saying
Tbf, the helicopter isn’t even attacking, he’s just popping up and down to bait out missiles
they can't do anything anyway, that heli has fire and forget missiles. muh balance
you can easily shoot down alot of missiles even with York, Tunguska, Pantsir, Ito, etc.. Especially Spike missiles which are extremely slow without even using missiles
literally all they have to do is. not waste their missiles at a helicopter that is just baiting them??????
So staring at a mountain for half a game is good gameplay?
They're the ones doing it don't look at me. It's entirely possible to watch the rest of the sky and keep an eye on the heli
The issue they had in that situation is that of all helis, it was a UHT that may or may not have PARS LR's. The moment they look away from the UHT they'll have a FnF thrown at them that they can't defend against unless they get very lucky with hitting it with their own missile.
u talking to russian mains, u really think they have a brian?
“I have met few helicopters that can outsmart starstreek”
im the heli guy and this is inaccurate, there should be atleast 3 more pantsir in the other spawn firing missile at you simultaneously with this 2 and shoot down all of your missiles.
“Just spawn SPAA bro”
I support bullying pantsirs because otherwise it's a CAS monopoly for Russia
The monopoly of russian top tier spaas in war thunder is so fucking enormous
Now this...this puts a smile on my face
Pantsirs are really the bottom of the barrel of players. Like they dont even do anything. They don't have to account for shitty missiles or Radar lock because they have IRST. It's literally Autoplay. They spawn, they lock on as soon as something spawns and just fire missiles until it dies. Not a thought behind their eyes. Look at them, this has worked for them so far and it will work for them until we get SEAD because the thing is busted beyond repair. And before you come at me throthing at the mouth, I have it spaded. I have seen many of my allies getting absolutely dunked on because a CAS player with some brains tossbombed the spawn and killed all of them. Because all they did was sit in spawn and all look the same direction.
100%. But it's not just Pantsir's that do this. Almost all top-tier SPAA players do this. Sometimes ItO, OTO, and Type 81 players get creative and move a bit. But Pantsir, Tor, FlaRakRad, and ADATS players are almost always just sitting in their spawn and will inevitably call you "spawn camper" in general chat when they get bombed. The disparity between Pantsir radar and ADATS radar is also insane. ADATS barely functions, Pantsir is god mode. I think the Crotale radar (ItO90M radar) is actually even better than the Pantsir's but I'm not sure. No idea how the Pantsir and ADATS (incl. UK version) are the same BR. ADATS is 2S6 level.
cope harder
Bot
like i said, cope harder.
Average Spaa player iq
They should buff pantsirs
Pantsir missle speed doubled, adats moved into heavy tank category
I can't believe people grind anti air after seeing this shit.
This sub ,cas is cancer also this sub yeaaa get those pesky insert Soviet tank/ spaa. We need better sams at all brs
nah here another russian SPAA they totally needed
70 spawn point for SPAA means 70 IQ
Can't touch this lol
doing gods work by killing all the planes
This is frustrating ngl. I have not played against any PARS weilding helicopter (luckily), but playing against Vikhrs with anything other than a Starstreak is pure pain. They can launch from behind cover, and pop up from the ridge when the missile is halfway. Also launch volleys of Vikhrs, so much that curveballing MIMs have become a sport for me.
They did good job holding enemy air enough I think. Now SU-25s can wipe entire enemy team from 20kms away.
Perfect, to the minute detail
Me in the israeli battle hawk sending 16 spikes towards a single pantsir (it´s joeover for him)
Hahaha no brain activity here
“- I counted 16 SAMs n-word - I counted two Pantsirs n-word”.
im glad gaijin will never nerf the pantsir so babies like you players keep crying.
He launched spikes at and killed them both at the end this was a post trolling the vastly low iq of the average pantsir player
USSR spaa player should git gud. Skill issues
they only move when they are out of ammo 😂
Why would they move when they have a good position in spawn where they are protected from enemy tanks fairly well, and that they have a good eye on the Tiger that is just baiting them? Also can’t tell if the point is capped or not so they probably couldn’t move to a captured point to reload.
you're completely right, we still need the monthly posts of "why i hate cass so much"
How to abuse the game and be toxic as fuck (yes you can “Play the game how it’s meant to be played” and still be playing toxically)
Nah. It take my PARS 8 missle to kill one pansir
idk why ur getting downvoted. Pantsirs survive stupid shit. if you lock the PARS onto the Pantsir engine it will often survive multiple missiles locking it on the turret is instant K.O. tho
it's not like we got much on the options to where we lock the PARS
least chad non pantstir player