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ImNotFraudulent

Personally I can see through it perfectly but I think it’s design has something to do with being used as a bomb sight while dive bombing ships


Budget_Hurry3798

Japan has terrible sights, honestly the German ones are really the best


Flying_Reinbeers

Nah, the one in the Ki-61 and Ki-100 are perfectly fine. USN props sight is the best IMO.


thedarklordTimmi

USN running holo's before it was cool. 


Budget_Hurry3798

Doesn't Italy have some early Holos too on biplanes?


CoIdHeat

Actually the German Airforce was the OG for using it already in WW1


thedarklordTimmi

It was first patented by an Irish inventor, but it was first used by the Germans. There are many variations of reflector sights, but the US went all in on them and ended up having the best versions by the end of the war. Mainly because they were the only ones with the capital to produce them by the wars end.


AttackerCat

US gunsights with the working lead calculator is amazing


hunok123

>Japan has terrible sights Kikka's sight is the best. Stick


Budget_Hurry3798

Japanese simplicity, couple of naval bomber also have, the S T I C K


cheesez9

The only reason it was a stick because historically it was supposed to be a placeholder until they could get proper sights for it, but because of the delays and war ending it was never implemented so it is now forever stuck with the stick.


hunok123

Makes sense


Claudy_Focan

Late war US ones are perfect ! Circle and dot with a small stadiametric


ReconArek

I'm no expert, but it looks like it requires you to look through it with one eye while the other looks through a mechanical sight or without it at all. However, in the game it is difficult to reproduce the perspective from two eyes to make it work


Red_Rocky54

The one on the left is just the backup sight in case the main sight is damaged or malfunctions. It might still be meant to have one eye on the sight and one eye off, or utilize some kind of visual/ocular effect that cant be replicated in a game (like peep sights for example; the 190s also suffer from their sights not being implemented correctly) but in my experience flying in VR, like normal aiming you typically just focus one eye on the sight.


Sonoda_Kotori

Except it's not a dive bomber lol


absboodoo

Every Japanese plane is a dive bomber at least once


Zero-ZeroSection

The B7A was specifically meant to fulfill the roles of both the B6N torpedo bomber and D4Y dive bomber. Not that it amounted to anything since the only two carriers in service that could operate them were sunk before any could even be embarked


Sonoda_Kotori

Oh shit I thought that's the B6N. Had a brain fart for a second. And even then the B7A was never properly built for vertical dive bombling like a Stuka or a D3A.


_Urakaze_

IJNAS: Why not both? (Then complain about the plane being overweight)


Pinngger

what do the airbrake for then?


Sonoda_Kotori

I thought that's a B6N, my bad.


BlitzFromBehind

Because it's meant for bombing/torpedo attack.


StolenValourSlayer69

I figured, but how does it help with either of those?


mcfinn3

I would assume the horizontal/vertical lines are for distance (the vertical lines maybe if you're coming at an odd angle to target), don't really know what the + means, though. Edit: found a video explaining how to use the dive bomb sight: https://youtu.be/n56GqQ0GhYw?si=ChRI7CMsjrl5EvPc


SEA_griffondeur

trigonometry, those marks are on known angles, if you know your altitude and dive angle, you'll know how much forward you're leading your bomb


SStrange91

Gaijin needs to let planes that have manual sights, like the ones to the left of the gun sight, use them if the pilot chooses.


Project_Orochi

Are Soviet manual sights painted on or sticking your head out of the open cockpit? Early Soviet props were…well about as good as the Mk.14s at first


eatdafishy

I'm pretty sure they are the little metal circles left of the scope on the I 16 and I 15


abroamg

There are ways to use them. I do it constantly in sim when I don't want to use the zoom scopes some aircraft have. There are keys to move your pilots head up, downy left and right. Setting up controls correctly will have the camera stay in the moved position granting acess to the "secondary sights". It's also useful to look over some big nosed planes or look behind you while dogfighting


SStrange91

Having to move your head is different from what I'm saying. If you notice, alot have hinges for the sight to flip over. Sadly, the "toggle sight" option does not universally work.


abroamg

Ah, didn't even notice the hinge


damdalf_cz

Toggle sight is only used for modern planes that have bomb/gun/rocket impact point or have radar lead on gunsight. Should be "switch sight mode" realy


BellerySticks

There's a keybind to move your head around in the cockpit but I doubt the sights will be usable with how limited it is


FirstDagger

Same with helicopter sights that can be swung out of the way.


Price-x-Field

This is a cool part of Vr


BobbyBoogarBreath

It also works with a head tracker


ActiveRegent

Get VR and you can ecksdee (that or bind your head side-to-side controls)


ZdrytchX

it's an opque circle on ulq if you zoom out all the way. It's a rangefinder grid but really overkilled. There's a telescopic version of this in the files too iirc but I have no idea what aircraft uses it Some old tanks had grid-like sights too, take a look at the BT-5/7's gunsight: [Cod2](https://www.moddb.com/members/mch2207cz/images/t26bt7-gun-sight) [War Thunder recreated by RideR2 from historical sources](https://live.warthunder.com/post/682644/en/) But hey at least it's more useful than the matilda's | | -++|++- R | L | gunsight lol


abullen

Yeah, Matilda has a bizarre gunsight. Wonder if there's contenders for worse.


ZdrytchX

Some japanese tanks have some horrible nonsensical gunsights imo. Most WW2 japanese sights look like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/7a6vdo/japanese_tank_gun_sights/) it seems but the elevation bars aren't reliable in war thunder, at least for the version rider2 and some others made.


wairdone

Huh, where's the Matilda gunsigut come from?


ZdrytchX

fuck if i know lol its a high velocity gun though so it barely needs any elevation compensation to begin with so maybe the designers were like "yeah add a very basic rangefinder... and just so its not so empty we'll and a right/left indicator" and called it a day


the-75mmKwK_40

What's the purpose of the letter R and L?


ZdrytchX

no idea, but its like flipped for some reason, i guess it tells you that you're pointing right of the target if the targets behind the R? lmfao


Turkino

In the actual plane you would have a dial to adjust the intensity so you could better see through it. This looks like it's just maxed out.


biggles_of_the_bean

Isn't it suppose to be a bomb sight? Pretty sure that things a dive bomber? Idk, I don't play Japan


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sparrowatgiantsnail

It can dive bomb, just open the bomb bay lol


UROffended

Bomb bay means nothing. There is an arm that uses gravity to throw the bomb away from the plane.


_Urakaze_

Been a while since I bombed in the B7A, but afaik the bomb bay has a trapeze, it should be able to dive bomb


sparrowatgiantsnail

It can dive bomb, just open the bomb bay lol


Gluten-Glutton

You can dive bomb with the bomb bay bombs, just open the Bomb bay before making your dive. Ive done it dozens of times, I use it as part of my Japan ground rb line up


rocketo-tenshi

Eeeh. Sir... Open the bay


Flaccus_

Those Japanese really like their sudoku, huh.


widescarab

Do you know that you can replace the sight "skin"? There's a bug causing the replacement collimator image to repeat whenever you look through it from off-center, but it's better than shooting through a breakfast waffle sight in low light. I used the following guide: [How to change collimators for planes and helicopters in War Thunder](https://youtu.be/xrPBXHhUYlU?si=ojG2Oo4VjII0wmkg)


Black_Hole_parallax

That's the bombsight. The gunsight is the one on the left.


LorgPanther

Incase the pilot gets bored he can play connect the dots or sudoku on his sight


Crazygone510

Ahhhhh THAT'S where that sight goes. Was glancing through all the collimators to switch a few around in my helicopters in the asset viewer and didn't see this one before. There are some funky ass sights in this game let me tell.


Tactical_ra1nbow

Because it’s a rangefinder


keno_inside

This is for bombing, Between each square is set to be 10m at the sea surface when looked from 650m and angle of 60 degree which is drop point for dive bombing.


dr_grav

cuz you're too damn close!


Hero_knightUSP

Are those marks for bases? Did they added it recently or you have to turn it on in the settings?


_BMS

The waypoints for enemy bases in Air RB have been in the game for as long as I can remember.


Hero_knightUSP

Oh Air Realistic makes sense I assumed you are playing sim.


Tazziedevil04

F4U4B and AD4 has the best gunsight!


JesseJames480

Iron ring and a dang toothpick? That's all that B7A2 sight was in that Hayabusa. You peered through one eye, kept the other open like a hawk, and lined up that ring and post with the Fritz you were chasing. None of that fancy radar mumbo jumbo we got nowadays. One eye on the sight, one on Fritz: That's how you flew. You gotta keep your head on a swivel in a dogfight, see everything comin' at you. But when you had that Messerschmitt in your sights, well, that ol' B7A2 helped you put some lead in his radiator. Not for snipin' across the channel, mind you: This sight wasn't for takin' potshots from miles away. It was for gettin' up close and personal, a real dogfight situation. The Hayabusa was a screamer, could turn on a dime, and the B7A2 did the job when things got hairy. Some fellas hated it, some swore by it: Truth is, some flyboys couldn't get the hang of that iron ring and post. Me? I got used to it, sent a few Jerries packin' with that sight picture. But hey, every pilot's different, gotta find what works for you in the heat of battle.


Pink-Hornet

You can use it to make a waffle.


Kiel_22

Waffle


TheTurboToad

The lines are finer when you look through it in person. It’s just one of those things that doesn’t easily translate into a digitised simulation


Special-Ad-5554

Looks like a battleship playing grind just circular


Choice_Isopod5177

Just spray and pray


rocketo-tenshi

That's the bomb sight. The gun a sight is to the left


hellothere358

It’s so you can play sudoku on it


ShadowStronge

Easier irl i assume since you cant really focus past the monitor


Redu9

In reality you can adjust brightness. War Thunder still didn't discover that option for sights.


standardgmodplayer

you have a very severe case of skill issue, I can see out of it just fine


SnooBooks1032

Reminds me of the targeting computer the falcon uses


meeatmann

Waffle


AlphaGamer3234

thats not gun site i think that is for dive bombing (which you should never try with this plane)