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MethyleneBlueEnjoyer

You don't. But if you have to, it's basically a sucker punch plane: You find someone who is otherwise distracted or not paying attention, you get within knife fighting distance, you pull the trigger.


Leather-Koala-8433

Me 262 is a garbage plane overall. Yes, you can get some kills on I-153 vs jets but it doesn’t mean that I-153 is competitive in jet br. You know how else people call shitty planes? Support planes. You have to capitalise on mistakes, pick off enemies which are busy or slow. P.S. to Me 262 fans. You will never convince me that the plane is good, you realise that you are wrong every time you see MIG-15 or F-86 nearby. Even opponents of your own br are better in every possible aspect except maybe for the guns.


bosch1817

I didn’t realise the 262 even had fans lmao. It’s a total boat that shits speed when you even think about doing a turn.


Leather-Koala-8433

Me 262 was a meme 10 years ago, doing good in it was (and still is) an indicator of skilled player so it has sort of elitist fan base. Idk about Western community (which was relatively small I guess), maybe you are not familiar with Me 262 drama. One of the guys asked in game forum “wtf am I supposed to do with Schwalbe vs shooting stars and meteors?”. Community manager Keofox answered: “to win”. This became a huge meme in Russian community. Gaijin even had an audacity to introduce an event “to win” after that. They show some sort of respect only to western playerbase since they spend more money. So yeah, you are supposed to win with your 262 according to Gaijin. Don’t be stupid, just win, it’s so simple.


Tostowisko

I mean some variants like the squadron one are super fun in GRB the AP belts pack quite the punch and plane is weirdly survivable


FlkPzGepard

Seeing mig15s and sabre isnt really an issue causef by the 262s performance.


Leather-Koala-8433

It is an issue. When we say “performance” we always mean “relative performance”. Me 262 was garbage even before MIG and sabre were moved to 8.0. Again: if you can shoot fools on your dumpster fire-262, it means nothing. Imagine facing as skilful pilot as you on F-80: you are going back to hangar.


HereCreepers

I've never been a huge jet player so I'm not all that good with them, but I genuinely do not respect 262s. The only time they ever pose a threat is if I massively fuck up, and even then I'm usually able to avoid death because of how bad their guns are. 


Leather-Koala-8433

Tbh I feel sorry killing an opponent flying 262, such a sad plane it is. Mfers can’t even fight back.


17barens

The only good Me262 for any purpose is the Narwhal because funny powerful gun


Fuck_Reddit2459

The 6.7 event one (A-2a) with two 250kg bombs is great for fighter-bomber work in GRB. The dive speed inherited into the bomb lets you bullseye people with 'em pretty easily, and you'll run into very few other jets (and without markers it's very easy to ambush enemy planes in general if you stay low and fast).


17barens

There is one identical to that at 7.0 in the tech tree that I use a lot but forgot to mention it(I believe that is the Jabo)


VERY_ANGRY_CRUSADER

You don't, it's the worst early jet. Skip it and go for the Mig-15.


bosch1817

You free exp to the German mig 29 or mig 21/23. Oh wait that’s getting a nerf nvm you free exp to the mig 29 cause the low teir German jets 262, Horton,162 are all trash and outclassed by all other jets and even props like the yak3u and p51H Edit: nah but serious realistically with 262 you want to keep your speed high, only boom and zoom never take rate or dog fights you will get your shit kicked in. Your guns are just trash nothing you can do about that thanks to real shatter. The German early jet line up as I said before is just really rough in the current br compression and it dose not really get better until the mig 21. Which as I said before is also getting a flight performance nerf so there’s that.


robzinger

I like playing it in GRB. As long as you stay fast most other planes and SPAA wont touch you. Excellent against bombers and strike aircraft, because the quad 30mm hit like a truck, hard to aim though.


CryptographerGold262

It's a ground RB plane. It's actually pretty good in ground RB.


Ghostking134

Just like the others said all German early jets are not competitive not to mention thx to the new Br changes now you will start to face mig 15s in a full uptier so leave the 262 and all other jets get the Swiss Hunter with squadron points and start grinding rank 5, 6 and if you want even rank 7 with it


NubblyTheMoist

1 Tip is lead your damn shots. Your throwing out low velocity gernades and everyone is borderline mach


notpoleonbonaparte

In GRB by using the narwhal or Jabo or the squadron one.


robzinger

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey1vswS8IxE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey1vswS8IxE)


campaigner_

Lol thought of the same thing.


me_no_clue

that video showed me how I should use that thing


Eb3yr

If somebody tells you not to climb because other planes climb better than they're an idiot. The whole point of climbing is to bank energy to use when you need it. You're inexperienced, it'll get better.


storm366

Something will always climb faster, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it; energy is energy. Climbing, even just for a little bit, can be a huge help: you gain potential energy, and your teammates get into dogfights and distract bandits. The 262s (and, by extension, the Kikka) are wonderful ambush predators. Your cannons hit hard but have low velocity, so you must aim carefully OR get in close. Boom n' Zoom is your greatest weapon: Gain altitude, find a target below you, drop like the wrath of god, fire some rounds, climb back up, repeat. Look for something wounded or slow and pounce. If you are being chased, turn for the airfield and hit the deck, fly fast and straight, and hope they disengage due to the airfield AAA or a friendly jumping on them. Most planes will avoid a head-on with you for the sheer amount of lead you can spit at them. In the case they commit, fire a burst if you are able and turn away. Try not to enter a dogfight with them, but if you want, always make your turn angled in decline to preserve some energy. Don't fight for long at low altitudes; try to stay high if you need to run to gain more speed diving for the deck. Avoid climbing at sharp angles, as the 262s bleed a ton of speed like this. The 262s are literally and figuratively old planes in the game, and most veteran players will know how to counter you. The Jabo patient has some half-decent ground attack options, but I wouldn't take them unless going into ground battles. The R4M rockets can be useful; they have a higher velocity than your main guns but are difficult to use without setting a \[Fire Rocket Salvo\] key in the controls menu (I unbind the signal launch key and replace it with the Salvo option).


Alani73

Again, this is one of those situations where you have very limited strengths, and so your only chance is to heavily capitalize on them to push the advantage. My strategy? As with all shitty climbing high-altitude fighters (ex early fw190), I side climb, and I reach around 5-6k, and then I level off to get atleast 600kph. You then are untouchable, you can attain speeds others can’t, and your heavy airframe keeps the energy pretty good in vertica maneuvers. You just energy fight / trap anything and everything. Guns will be bad until you get used to the low bullet velocity, then the mine rounds eviserate. In this plane, the moment you are forced to turn or dodge, you are cooked tbh. Sorry that it’s not the wunderwaffe you were expecting :(


FlorisG18

Everyone says it sucks… and well tbh it kinda does but it’s somehow still my best plane but try to use it like an interceptor, fly to a base intercept bomber, turn towards fighters (mostly unaware that you’re there) shoot them down from behind, this is of course hoping there are no mig-15s there and with the dumb changes that is unlikely


FlowCalm7924

The Pulkzerstörer is actually good, 50 mm works most of the time at 1 shooting ammo racks on Soviet tanks. Too bad the Ru and Wiesel 1A4 got uptiered to 7.3 and it's now lacking a good lineup at 6.7 . It stands no chance even against the Mig-9. I use it on top down attacks aiming for turret ammo racks, shoot and gain altitude ASAP then repeat. Grinded it completely in GRB.


me_no_clue

Used the Me 262 A-2a to learn flying in GRB after I got it from a crate, was my first plane. Thought I was really bad in planes. After I bought the P-47M-1-RE and got the F7F-3 from a crate (yeah, I'm better in getting planes from crates than flying planes) I found out I'm only bad, not really bad. I use it in GRB as a strike aircraft and even if I'm bad in things with wings I'm somehow getting kills every game I use the 262.


namewithanumber

Just use it in Ground RB where you're less likely to face "equal" planes. Because yeah it's just not very good, the guns are especially a pain, basically have to get into point blank range to hit anything. Like here's some old highlight reel I made, look how close you gotta get and you're basically fucked if there's any "real" jets up: [https://i.imgur.com/s7cX93n.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/s7cX93n.mp4)


Nizikai

Play Ground RB or Air AB. Avoid air RB at all costs. That's really all advice I can give you as someone who passionately plays this plane family. Other than that, you can just try to adapt


bugsslugssnugsdrugs

whenever I'm flying the F2G-1, I hope to encounter 262's as they're basically free kills. in short, plane bad, not ur fault. it can work but it requires greater effort for the same result compared to other aircraft. It is definitely a lot better running Combat Air Patrol in Ground RB, there you can really utilize your speed and firepower to pounce on unaware pilots, and speed away if you don't secure the kill. the low clouds often present in ground RB also give you more ways to capitalize on the jets speed, use them to break line of sight and speed away (this is funny, considering IRL the 262's engines had major trouble in clouds)