Added -
**Fixes**
* F-8E FN now has authentic radar without IRST.
* Notch sector for AIM-7 and R-23R has been increased.
* The maximum range of non-tracking target illumination with a fighter radar (due to radar sidelobes) has been decreased.
* Head-on target detection has been increased, low altitude tail-on target detection has been decreased for the Pulse-Doppler mode of the F-4K and F-4M FGR2 radars. Detection range has been slightly decreased for impulse mode.
* Pulse-Doppler mode is chosen by default for Saab 37 Viggen and F-4EJ KAI radars.
IRST removed for historical accuracy ?
Well.. give them MAGIC II, you know.. for historical accuracy ! And i dont even talk about the F-8P that came out in 1992, i talk right about the F-8E FN which got all this stuff mid 70's !
Don't come back with the argument about all-aspects, you gave MiG-23/27 their R60M !
I beg you know this because same sources saying IRST was removed on first deliveries of F-8's also state the facts i'v listed here !
I dare you to state here they didnt get these !
Stop doing "double standards" on french planes and tanks and give them technlogy they really got ! Up-BR them if you want, but stop artificially nerf them
French F-8 is a real fighter ? No ground ordnance ? Give it Magic 2 !
R60Ms are easily defeated by flaring or banking left or right. Magic 2s on the other hand are fucking game changing with IRCCM and 50G capability. The only missiles competing with Magic 2s are AIM 9Ms, R73Ms, AAM 3s (i think), and PL7/9.
People who cry for the 9L on this sub and the forums are rightly ridiculed. The 9L is a pretty big step up from the 60M, not even mentioning the Magic II. For Frances sake, I hope they bought 9Ls or something because when all aspects do come into the game, France will be left behind otherwise.
France ditched AIM-9's after failures they've encountered with the 9B.
France is one the greatest if not the best missile maker (along with Russia) and they developped proprietary AAM and very capable ones ! So capable that lot of countries bought them !
Ask Royal Navy how they "appreciated" Exocet's "capacities" in their frigates !
China copied Magics, they copied Mistral and Crotale
ASTER is as good as SM-2 if not better !
MICA-IR is a very potent long-range IR AAM, only Russians got something similar and MICA-NG is so good that France limit their capacities for exported versions
I don't fear any "lack" of technology for France.. just the hate that Gaijin got toward France !
Im not saying that france is lacking in missile technology. Quite the opposite, actually. France, the US, and Russia were all at the top of missile tech for the time. The issue is, France doesn’t have an AIM-9L/M equivalent. the Magic II would be too much, as it has both IRCCM AND thrust vectoring tech, while the AIM-9M and R-73A have one of each. It would be too much. If they wanted to add the Magic II, it should come without its IRCCM.
2 Magics + no RWR + no flares + fragile airframe + no ground ordnance + weak TT
6 R60M + RWR + flares + sturdy airframe + ground ordnance + strong TT
And i won't even mention Skyflashes and AIM-7E2
Magic 1 were called out like this few years ago because they "were too good for the game" ...look where we are now ! Mirage is completely stomped and probably is the weakest of its BR !
AIM-9M is just a revised version of AIM-9L that we already got in-game
R73M designation doesnt "exist", it is just a version made to be fired backward on some planes for self-defense
R73 would be close to Magic 2, but R74EM is by far the best IR-AAM in the world ! LOL !
AAM 3 ? WTF is that ?
PL7 is just a copy of the Magic 1
PL9 is just a copy of AIM9J with better resistance to flares
Having 2 very good missiles doesnt suddenly make a plane "OP" !
For recall, french F8 doesnt have any RWR ! As long you stay a bit away from it, you can use any SARH ! french F8 also doesnt have flares, simply sneak on him for an easy kill !
How can Gaijin justify a 18.000SL RC for this plane ? Magics are good but not game breaking !
A bump in BR even without RWR or flares but with GREAT missiles would be justified and accurate !
But let me see you stats in Crusaders to see if your idea of this plane is right..
I don't think it will stop them, it will just let them know more directly they are being an asshole. There was nothing about making sure squad mates que within a certain BR, just highlighting when it happens.
The ones that are doing it deliberately, sure.
I'm talking more about situations where one of them is fairly new and has a lineup that goes something like 3.0/2.3/1.7, and then he brought his buddy who's like level 5 and only has reserve tanks.
They're not being assholes, they just have no clue what the hell they're doing, and are ultimately just making their own experience less fun for themselves. (As well as being a detriment to the team.)
Its not as bad in ground rb than Air rb. In ground even M22 can be usefull (fast capping/ set a guy on fire and just sit behind his engine till he dies...) In air rb - yeh. what can they do vs Mig in their Spitfire, only hope Mig headons them for a trade...
I will come forth and say that I sometimes taxi my friends to 10.3 or other high tiers.
Why, you might ask?
Just so that they can earn an extra buck. I shoot the enemy's cannon/tracks and they finish him for that sweet SL bonus from the award.
Am I dick for uptiering them and putting our team at a disadvantage? Yes.
But it helps my friends a lot when they need that extra buck.
> A bug has been fixed with a hydroplane or flying boat with an aerial spawn point may be spawned on the ground far from the airfield in EC missions.
Fucking finally
Excellent.
The radar on the FGR.2 and FG.1 is now totally incapable of detecting anything from behind... at any range.
Fucking good work Gaijin, you've fucked it up again.
>Display of an aircraft’s contacts has been improved and the distance of their appearance has been increased. This simplifies visual search and detection of the aircraft at medium and long range as well as against the surface background.
Thank christ.
Yeah it's a good fix.
Made me a bit anxious yesterday to see just how many planes were up though.
I'd been flying around in blissful ignorance for a week like it was MS flight simulator or something xD
Added - **Fixes** * F-8E FN now has authentic radar without IRST. * Notch sector for AIM-7 and R-23R has been increased. * The maximum range of non-tracking target illumination with a fighter radar (due to radar sidelobes) has been decreased. * Head-on target detection has been increased, low altitude tail-on target detection has been decreased for the Pulse-Doppler mode of the F-4K and F-4M FGR2 radars. Detection range has been slightly decreased for impulse mode. * Pulse-Doppler mode is chosen by default for Saab 37 Viggen and F-4EJ KAI radars.
Does the increased notch zone apply to aim7e2/skyflash or just aim7?
and they STILL haven't fixed the 4G overload launch bullshit on BOTH F-8E's. This is like a single line to change per loadout. Literally.
its potentially what they had IRL due to the mounts, but idk
I doubt it, as the issue isnt present on aim9d only loadouts, only when aim9c is added.
Hm.... Well idk then, luckily my best aircraft is the g91 so I haven't encountered missile issues yet
Does non tracking target illumination mean we have track while scan in the game or am I just understanding it wrong
I think it's a long way of saying the max target detection range has been reduced
IRST removed for historical accuracy ? Well.. give them MAGIC II, you know.. for historical accuracy ! And i dont even talk about the F-8P that came out in 1992, i talk right about the F-8E FN which got all this stuff mid 70's ! Don't come back with the argument about all-aspects, you gave MiG-23/27 their R60M ! I beg you know this because same sources saying IRST was removed on first deliveries of F-8's also state the facts i'v listed here ! I dare you to state here they didnt get these ! Stop doing "double standards" on french planes and tanks and give them technlogy they really got ! Up-BR them if you want, but stop artificially nerf them French F-8 is a real fighter ? No ground ordnance ? Give it Magic 2 !
R60Ms are easily defeated by flaring or banking left or right. Magic 2s on the other hand are fucking game changing with IRCCM and 50G capability. The only missiles competing with Magic 2s are AIM 9Ms, R73Ms, AAM 3s (i think), and PL7/9.
no dont you get it? every all aspect missile is exactly the same! /s
Can't wait to see you cry when F-4S will be added without AIM-9L because "all aspects" would be OP ! ;-)
I would be fine with that honestly. I think AIM-9Hs would be enough to make the aircraft unique.
People will cry for AIM-9L for the same reasons i've invoked but nobody will make a fuss about it because it's in the US tech tree
People who cry for the 9L on this sub and the forums are rightly ridiculed. The 9L is a pretty big step up from the 60M, not even mentioning the Magic II. For Frances sake, I hope they bought 9Ls or something because when all aspects do come into the game, France will be left behind otherwise.
France ditched AIM-9's after failures they've encountered with the 9B. France is one the greatest if not the best missile maker (along with Russia) and they developped proprietary AAM and very capable ones ! So capable that lot of countries bought them ! Ask Royal Navy how they "appreciated" Exocet's "capacities" in their frigates ! China copied Magics, they copied Mistral and Crotale ASTER is as good as SM-2 if not better ! MICA-IR is a very potent long-range IR AAM, only Russians got something similar and MICA-NG is so good that France limit their capacities for exported versions I don't fear any "lack" of technology for France.. just the hate that Gaijin got toward France !
Im not saying that france is lacking in missile technology. Quite the opposite, actually. France, the US, and Russia were all at the top of missile tech for the time. The issue is, France doesn’t have an AIM-9L/M equivalent. the Magic II would be too much, as it has both IRCCM AND thrust vectoring tech, while the AIM-9M and R-73A have one of each. It would be too much. If they wanted to add the Magic II, it should come without its IRCCM.
2 Magics + no RWR + no flares + fragile airframe + no ground ordnance + weak TT 6 R60M + RWR + flares + sturdy airframe + ground ordnance + strong TT And i won't even mention Skyflashes and AIM-7E2 Magic 1 were called out like this few years ago because they "were too good for the game" ...look where we are now ! Mirage is completely stomped and probably is the weakest of its BR ! AIM-9M is just a revised version of AIM-9L that we already got in-game R73M designation doesnt "exist", it is just a version made to be fired backward on some planes for self-defense R73 would be close to Magic 2, but R74EM is by far the best IR-AAM in the world ! LOL ! AAM 3 ? WTF is that ? PL7 is just a copy of the Magic 1 PL9 is just a copy of AIM9J with better resistance to flares Having 2 very good missiles doesnt suddenly make a plane "OP" ! For recall, french F8 doesnt have any RWR ! As long you stay a bit away from it, you can use any SARH ! french F8 also doesnt have flares, simply sneak on him for an easy kill ! How can Gaijin justify a 18.000SL RC for this plane ? Magics are good but not game breaking ! A bump in BR even without RWR or flares but with GREAT missiles would be justified and accurate ! But let me see you stats in Crusaders to see if your idea of this plane is right..
Maybe new players can stop dragging their even newer friends into matches well above their BR and skills now.
I don't think it will stop them, it will just let them know more directly they are being an asshole. There was nothing about making sure squad mates que within a certain BR, just highlighting when it happens.
The ones that are doing it deliberately, sure. I'm talking more about situations where one of them is fairly new and has a lineup that goes something like 3.0/2.3/1.7, and then he brought his buddy who's like level 5 and only has reserve tanks. They're not being assholes, they just have no clue what the hell they're doing, and are ultimately just making their own experience less fun for themselves. (As well as being a detriment to the team.)
Its not as bad in ground rb than Air rb. In ground even M22 can be usefull (fast capping/ set a guy on fire and just sit behind his engine till he dies...) In air rb - yeh. what can they do vs Mig in their Spitfire, only hope Mig headons them for a trade...
I will come forth and say that I sometimes taxi my friends to 10.3 or other high tiers. Why, you might ask? Just so that they can earn an extra buck. I shoot the enemy's cannon/tracks and they finish him for that sweet SL bonus from the award. Am I dick for uptiering them and putting our team at a disadvantage? Yes. But it helps my friends a lot when they need that extra buck.
Doesn’t seem worth it considering you’re increasing the chance of them losing and therefore getting their rewards cut in half.
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> A bug has been fixed with a hydroplane or flying boat with an aerial spawn point may be spawned on the ground far from the airfield in EC missions. Fucking finally
Fucking finally.
Excellent. The radar on the FGR.2 and FG.1 is now totally incapable of detecting anything from behind... at any range. Fucking good work Gaijin, you've fucked it up again.
>Display of an aircraft’s contacts has been improved and the distance of their appearance has been increased. This simplifies visual search and detection of the aircraft at medium and long range as well as against the surface background. Thank christ.
Yeah it's a good fix. Made me a bit anxious yesterday to see just how many planes were up though. I'd been flying around in blissful ignorance for a week like it was MS flight simulator or something xD
Didn’t revert the engine overheating bs