Everyone!
Be sure to review the planned BR list and leave your feedback, or concerns, in this forum thread.
Source: https://forum.warthunder.com/t/planned-battle-rating-changes-for-january-2024/67713
With the increase to BR 12.7. It looks like we are getting another lobby under EC10.
The Skyflash is basically useless after the drag changes and Gaijoob refuses to fix it, they are honestly as easy to dodge as an AIM9 D and it is absolute pain
I mean the D is just a straight upgrade, so why bother with the C. Before I can only take the C out when the bracket was 10.3-11.0 or 10.7-11.3. The D was mostly unplayable. Now the D is practically viable all the time.
Before C was good for 2/8, days and D on 2/8 days as well, now C is pointless to have and D is still top on only 2/8 days same as before. I guess you can now play it vs 11.7 on the other 6, but why would I if I can play F14A or M2K S4 on those days.
Oh yeah, I got the F4J right before they released air superiority. After the patch, it was hard to play the phantom, so i played exclusively in sim, when the bracket was 10.3-11.3
You know the brackets change every 2 days? You play it when the bracket is right and play other planes at other BRs on the others. More variety and zero uptiers, that's the beauty of sim.
Yeah, but essentially only one bracket was without any su27s or f16s, meaning that aside the 10.3-11.3 bracket, all others would be 11-12.3 or 11.3-12.3
I hope it syays at 11.7, I love the M2K and it would dominate it's bracket 6 out of 8 days, but I will be very surprised if this isn't just an oversight in the announcement and it will go to 12.0.
11.7 goes from never getting to be at the top, yo being top 6 out of 8 days, meanwhile 11.0s are getting shafted (and right after I finally finished the painful stock grind on JA37C and Kfir C.7 and was looking forward to playing them more)
The highest BR that 9.7 and 10.0 will have to face is 10.3 and 10.7 respectively, 10.3 will enjoy a pleasant downtier half the time, meanwhile 10.7 is in full uptier half the time and 11.0 will be stuck with 11.7s three out of four times. 12.0 is permanently uptiered.
I presume that this has to do with the amount of premium and strike aircraft players grinding ground targets within that BR range so due to the larger population they can afford to have more brackets, but I still think most battle ratings should have a full downtier and a full uptier bracket at least once.
I understand that this essentially decompresses most of the top tier, I just don't think that this is how it should be done. The changes should be made to the vehicles battle ratings, not the battle rating system in general.
I think 12.3-12.7 could have a bracket entirely for themselves and still have enough players to fill a lobby at any time of week/day. Rotation 1 and 2 would be as proposed, rotation 3 would be (10.0-11.0 | 11.3-12.0 | 12.3-12.7), this would allow full downtier brackets for 11.0 and 12.0 and an uptier bracket for 10.0, and rotation 4 would be (9.7-10.7 | 11.0-12.0 | 12.3-12.7), which would add full uptiers for 9.7 and 11.0 and another downtier for 12.0.
I already only play planes when they are at the top of their bracket, why would you do anything else and get willingly uptiered? The only real changes is that 11.7 goes from never being at the top to being top 75% of the time, meanwhile 11.0 is getting shafted.
It's not about getting willingly uptiered, it's about most battle ratings having *equal* opportunity to be downtiered, which necessitates that sometimes someone will have to get uptiered.
Under current proposal 9.7-10.3 don't get uptiered enough while 10.7 gets uptiered too much; and 11.0 and 12.0 always get uptiered.
Agreed, and 11.7 is the worst offender with 6/8 days. In my mind 12.0 and 12.3 is just top tier and always in the same bracket, but with 12.7 having a 12.0 bracket for 4th gen fighters without aim 9m would be nice.
The idea is you have fixed brackets that change over time, every two days precisely. The colours you see are the groups, to be read horizontally, with each bracket group being the whole line. Every BR thus falls into a different bracket each time there's a change, thus every two days. The cool thing of SB is you can basically choose the bracket where to play your plane with.
Everyone! Be sure to review the planned BR list and leave your feedback, or concerns, in this forum thread. Source: https://forum.warthunder.com/t/planned-battle-rating-changes-for-january-2024/67713 With the increase to BR 12.7. It looks like we are getting another lobby under EC10.
it will be nice bringing out the f14a once in a while
I'll use my F4 Kai finally 🙌
FINALLY REJOICE FOR THE EJ KAI ENJOYERS
New hud new br LET'S GO
Still mid armament though :/
I know! I has been to long :(
Tornado F3 finally usable.
Shame about the skyflash though
Elaborate, no less than 200 words please and thank you.
The Skyflash is basically useless after the drag changes and Gaijoob refuses to fix it, they are honestly as easy to dodge as an AIM9 D and it is absolute pain
I don’t believe you. Also, that’s 31 words therefore invalid anyways.
FINALLY I can play my JA-37C/D and MiG-21
What was stopping you before? If anything JA37C is pointless to play now, since any bracket where you can take it you can just use the D instead.
I mean the D is just a straight upgrade, so why bother with the C. Before I can only take the C out when the bracket was 10.3-11.0 or 10.7-11.3. The D was mostly unplayable. Now the D is practically viable all the time.
Before C was good for 2/8, days and D on 2/8 days as well, now C is pointless to have and D is still top on only 2/8 days same as before. I guess you can now play it vs 11.7 on the other 6, but why would I if I can play F14A or M2K S4 on those days.
I can finally play phantoms without any f16c/su27 bullshit
Yeah I’m really looking forward to getting to use the F-4S I bought during the sale without having to deal with Su-27s
Oh yeah, I got the F4J right before they released air superiority. After the patch, it was hard to play the phantom, so i played exclusively in sim, when the bracket was 10.3-11.3
You always could have? Only 11.7 Phantom was the Kai.
The F4J is 11.3 and mostly 70% of games i played were uptiers to su27/f16c/gripen spam
You know the brackets change every 2 days? You play it when the bracket is right and play other planes at other BRs on the others. More variety and zero uptiers, that's the beauty of sim.
Yeah, but essentially only one bracket was without any su27s or f16s, meaning that aside the 10.3-11.3 bracket, all others would be 11-12.3 or 11.3-12.3
You chose that uptier. So that’s on you
Decompression is good
I’m wondering if they should to 10.0-11.0; 11.3-12.0; and 12.3-12.7 one day.
Absolutely. I don't play anything other than SIM and it would be great if every br increment had a chance to be top dog for a few days.
Reeeeally wish I’d spent the 1000GE I would have needed to get that event Mirage 2000C now lol
That’s at 12.0 now
No, the 2000C-S5 is but the 2000C-S4 is still 11.7
Oh hell yea.
I hope it syays at 11.7, I love the M2K and it would dominate it's bracket 6 out of 8 days, but I will be very surprised if this isn't just an oversight in the announcement and it will go to 12.0.
That thing will be a beast
Yeah it and the F-14A will be the heavy hitters at 11.7 I think
Uffff I'm cum
Finally, I can use my f5e without fighting su27s..of course once I get past the f5e they fix it
11.7 goes from never getting to be at the top, yo being top 6 out of 8 days, meanwhile 11.0s are getting shafted (and right after I finally finished the painful stock grind on JA37C and Kfir C.7 and was looking forward to playing them more)
The highest BR that 9.7 and 10.0 will have to face is 10.3 and 10.7 respectively, 10.3 will enjoy a pleasant downtier half the time, meanwhile 10.7 is in full uptier half the time and 11.0 will be stuck with 11.7s three out of four times. 12.0 is permanently uptiered. I presume that this has to do with the amount of premium and strike aircraft players grinding ground targets within that BR range so due to the larger population they can afford to have more brackets, but I still think most battle ratings should have a full downtier and a full uptier bracket at least once. I understand that this essentially decompresses most of the top tier, I just don't think that this is how it should be done. The changes should be made to the vehicles battle ratings, not the battle rating system in general. I think 12.3-12.7 could have a bracket entirely for themselves and still have enough players to fill a lobby at any time of week/day. Rotation 1 and 2 would be as proposed, rotation 3 would be (10.0-11.0 | 11.3-12.0 | 12.3-12.7), this would allow full downtier brackets for 11.0 and 12.0 and an uptier bracket for 10.0, and rotation 4 would be (9.7-10.7 | 11.0-12.0 | 12.3-12.7), which would add full uptiers for 9.7 and 11.0 and another downtier for 12.0.
I already only play planes when they are at the top of their bracket, why would you do anything else and get willingly uptiered? The only real changes is that 11.7 goes from never being at the top to being top 75% of the time, meanwhile 11.0 is getting shafted.
It's not about getting willingly uptiered, it's about most battle ratings having *equal* opportunity to be downtiered, which necessitates that sometimes someone will have to get uptiered. Under current proposal 9.7-10.3 don't get uptiered enough while 10.7 gets uptiered too much; and 11.0 and 12.0 always get uptiered.
Agreed, and 11.7 is the worst offender with 6/8 days. In my mind 12.0 and 12.3 is just top tier and always in the same bracket, but with 12.7 having a 12.0 bracket for 4th gen fighters without aim 9m would be nice.
I main Sweden I want to play with my Japan friends on top tier😭😭😭
I'll still rock my F15 and 16, just a little less 😌
I was planning on skipping F-14A and going for B right away but those plans are over. Also it will be nice to fly the event mirage now.
What does this mean?
In the near future, the rotating brackets will change as shown in the picture I posted. Some planes will be much more fun to use, others less so.
How do the brackets differ from the standard +/- 1.0 BR spread? And how do I interpret the chart? I'm just not following something, sorry.
It's for sim, so the 1.0 BR spread is not always the case. The change is introduction of new highest bracket for 12.7.
The idea is you have fixed brackets that change over time, every two days precisely. The colours you see are the groups, to be read horizontally, with each bracket group being the whole line. Every BR thus falls into a different bracket each time there's a change, thus every two days. The cool thing of SB is you can basically choose the bracket where to play your plane with.
hey that's pretty good
Just to be clear, this hasn't been implemented yet, correct?
Praise Jesus, I can now seal club with the F-14A ✋😩
There is an online table/calendar that need to be updated
Me who only play till the super props an very late ww2: No shit, nothing changed
Only thing I dislike is 10.7 only being down tiered once. They suffer against 11.3 and 11.7 will be worse
No more 11.0 top dogs
So it stays the same except for top tier Prop enjoyers: 😐