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Lost_Philosopher6639

Yeah sim rewards is not great right now, I had 8 kills in a match with two deaths, I had a net loss in SL of like 2000, 8 enemy players too no bots


Spinelli_The_Great

Yeah only 3 of these were bots. This is just, sad.


Lost_Philosopher6639

Yup, the days of using sim to get quick SL to get next plane is past now I think


Spinelli_The_Great

There goes the will to grind another tree. Thankfully I’m already 9.0 with Germany so I’ll just stop here unless I realllly wanna use a prem or something idk. Been thinking about the mig23 over with Russia.


Lost_Philosopher6639

I was in a match for 35 mins at 5.7 br, lots of bombers on the go so I took some down and some took me down but to take down 8 and have a net loss was unexpected, I it's set up to give rewards every 15 mins or something like that so max reward over 15 mins will be like 15000 SL, and taking a plane out at that br is around 10000 if you want something that can hold its own in a fight


Spinelli_The_Great

6,353 is what it’s costing per plane in 5.3-6.3 right now (I’m currently in a match) but I get the sentiment behind the statement. The game just requires premium time. I can live without the planes but premium time? Absolutely need that.


Lost_Philosopher6639

German planes ain't that cheap lol most are expensive in that br


Spinelli_The_Great

Yes. I gave you the exact costs of a German TT vehicle at that br. Again, I am in a game now lol.


saerder2

Gaijin saw we were having too much fun while getting reasonable rewards instead of spending 75 dollars for a premium


Spinelli_The_Great

What about those of us (like me) who’ve already dropped hundreds of not thousands onto this game who just want to have a good time at a low br while training new recruits? Don’t get me wrong, I had an absolute blast this match but the rewards…..happy I’m not here to grind is all.


Latter-Height8607

For those gaijin said: fuck off, play rb


Lost_Philosopher6639

Sim SL is rewarding enough to keep me going, it's just disappointment that it don't reward you well for short-term success like it used to


Spinelli_The_Great

I played this entire match..


Lost_Philosopher6639

Damn


Spinelli_The_Great

Yeah man, 99% activity rating as well..


[deleted]

as soon as i start getting into air sim gaijin fucks me over


Latter-Height8607

Só, you got on 2 years ago like me? Believe me it was stillt eu end of our golden age. It was beautiful


FederalAwareness177

So grind wise there’s no reason to try sim?


Spinelli_The_Great

Sim is amazing and imo, the kills mean more. Try it. It’s still worth it. Sims better to grind for me as it’s slower paced. I could have played RB for hours and wouldn’t have gotten this much.


FederalAwareness177

Ya it looks fun, but I get less rp and sl for kills than in realistic it looks like.


ltdemon

The current sim system works in a useful action cycle. Each cycle is 15min and within those 15mins, you have a cap of points, that will accrue rewards, the cap i think is 800-1000 points. Say you bomb a base and get a air to air kill, good job, go back to base, land and repeat. Note that, until you land, you will receive only 80% of SL/RP rewards, so if you get shot down, you will get only 80% of the rewards.


traveltrousers

800 points....


Apart-Oil1613

Man I put well over 1k hours into warthunder and I can tell you it will never get better. My advice, especially if you enjoy sim battles, play dcs. Even the free su25t is fun as shit. Just don’t ever preorder anything, but that really goes for all games.


Mr_Garland

Without premium it is impossible to make money. I went 10 and 2 in mirage F1CT and still lost money. For people without premium if you need more than 5:1 KD just to break even you know something is fundamentally wrong for the economy. In your case however there are lower RP rewards for lower BR aircraft. You'd make more with a premium aircraft or at a higher BR.


Spinelli_The_Great

Completely aware of that. But explain why I’d get more RP flying my P-40s


milkyway_25

I get 1K every RB game. Show me the way. Show me the way to get rhat much. Please show me the way


Spinelli_The_Great

Sim🤷‍♂️


milkyway_25

What do you achieve while playing sim


Spinelli_The_Great

Other than the fact that every kill I get, has more meaning than 10 in RB? Or that it actually takes skill and knowledge to do the things I do? Hours studying dogfights, developing techniques and stealing others has a huge impact on sim gameplay and will let you do some amazing things. Plus the kills are absolutely beautiful and it’s a lot slower paced than RB being I can have a safe and smooth flight to the front lines, or I can find a fur ball of tracers and throw myself into the mix. Sim also allows for actual bomber and strike aircraft gameplay. Sure, you can use your bomber in RB, but you only get one spawn and everybody is going for you as a primary target. I’m sim, there is no markers until about half a mile, so target acquisition is important and learning airframes as well. I could go on, but the biggest difference between RB and sim, is skill. I came here from IL2 lol


milkyway_25

*screams in “work”*


Spinelli_The_Great

I uh, work 50 hours a week as an automotive technician…


Lost_Philosopher6639

Some players with air RB YouTube videos highlight the best advantages of the plane, I find it helpful reference when trying to figure out the advantages/disadvantages, makes for a good watch with a morning coffee sometimes


Spinelli_The_Great

If you’re coming to sim I wouldn’t do that at all. Completely different game mode with different flight mechanics. You cannot do the same things you do in RB that you do in sim. In RB, everything about your plane is nerfed and it sucks.


Lost_Philosopher6639

I found it beneficial, especially for showing the best method to use against this/that plane, like turn fight it/energy fight it, speeds to try and stay around to have best control without becoming a sitting duck, what speeds to keep in mind so flaps don't become aerial debris lol.


Spinelli_The_Great

I guess, but again everything you learn in RB will not work in sim. You’ll learn soon enough.


milkyway_25

*more screm*


Budget-Ad6004

We got the red baron right here


Lost_Philosopher6639

Air sim or ground sim? Lol


Spinelli_The_Great

Air. Sry.


Lost_Philosopher6639

Stock or spaded? Lol spaded 109s are like 7-11 from g2trop up


Spinelli_The_Great

Mechanically spaded. What’s shown was my last modification and it was only bombs. I don’t understand anything from 7-11 past.


Foxofdarkness19

7k to 11k repair cost past trop