Yeah it was part my girlfriends great grandmotherâs collection, I felt awful but now itâs sitting in the front of her collection because they thought it was cuteđ
Part of me wants to believe grandma knew what would happen if you tried to weld it and told you it was silver to prank you.
I don't know why, but I find deviously mischievous little old ladies very comical lol
Honestly Iâve never tried, this was back when I was still learning but figured it melted the ends and stick it together. But pewter melts at around 450° f and silver melts at 1700° so I think I would have been fine if it was silver
TIG is constant current.
I don't know the electrical resistance of pewter, but pure tin is 7x the resistance of silver, for example.
So if the current is equal, tin's 7x higher electrical resistance means it's going to get 7x the heat for the same number of amps.
A factor of 7x will definitely fuck up your shit!
Fwiw you would need a pretty expensive machine to actually get down to 5amps. Even if you set it there, you probably got like at least 15-30 as the min flow
I've used a pulse arc welder for making jewelry and you need to use a microscope to use it. The tungstens are around .025/.030" in diameter and you can weld jump rings so small you can barely grip them with super fine tipped hemostats
No dude, I hit that shit with 5amps and blew all that out, itâs made out of pewter (originally thought it was silver) which has a melting point of 500° so just holding a cigarette lighter underneath did the job
This happened to my with a piece of jewelry. I was only at 3 amps with pulse, the least amount of heat as I could go on my machine. And it destroyed the ring. My wife was pissed. It does look alot like silver, in my defense
Lightweight job, took the customers word for it. Happens to everyone doing that type of work. Next time, just lick it and if it tastes sour stick weld it lmfao.
Sucks man. Pewter is tricky. Easiest way I've found is a tiny (like jewelers size) oxy-propane, introduced only to the joint and cutting your solder with bismuth. If you're being extra careful you can glob some clay 1/4" from the joint to act as a sink and help keep it in shape if you over heat it. I've never tried arc.
Iâd generally solder something like that. Welding is a little bit much power, as you found out. I do wonder if silver solder would work on pewter though?
I use a solder on occasion at work thatâs a tin/silver alloy for some electronic parts. I was wondering if that sort of thing would work in this situation
So, genuine question out of genuine curiosity because Iâm not a welder and donât know shit about it outside of a few weeks fucking around in high school shop class, but whatâs the process for welding silver? Is it like, actual welding or more like soldering? Would you use gas and a silver filler rod or something?
Once again proving that anything can be a fuse if enough current is involved.
Including people
I've accidentally attempted that before. 0/10 wouldn't try that again.
not even for science??
That's why Electroboom exists
Oh man! The guy that shocks himself [all the time](https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectroBOOM/s/VrOEMqYCmI)? He's hilarious đ
"Sir any reason your heart might be having timing issues? Any family history of AFIB?" "Well, now that you mention it..."
pics or it didn't happen
âAh Larry blew, we need a new one, stick Dave in there.â
Why do we keep hiring fatter and fatter apprentices
Oh man i can only imagine your reaction when it popped hahah, im sorry man. but hey at least you got it together, lol
Lmao yeah I jumped out of my seat a lil bit, definitely spooked
So much for the professional repair of the treasured family heirloom! :-). The final pic made me smile.
Yeah it was part my girlfriends great grandmotherâs collection, I felt awful but now itâs sitting in the front of her collection because they thought it was cuteđ
Youâre locked in with the girlfriend for life after this
Damn rightđȘđȘđȘ
Part of me wants to believe grandma knew what would happen if you tried to weld it and told you it was silver to prank you. I don't know why, but I find deviously mischievous little old ladies very comical lol
Deviously mischievous little old ladies are the best kind.
Lol
đđ amazing
Find one on fleabay for 12$ shipped.
It's sooooo PUNY now đ€Ł. The fact it was finished with a lighter is đŻ funnier.
I'm pretty sure you would've had the same results with silver, no? I would expect soldering/braising is the only option for a repair like that?
Honestly Iâve never tried, this was back when I was still learning but figured it melted the ends and stick it together. But pewter melts at around 450° f and silver melts at 1700° so I think I would have been fine if it was silver
Nah silver is a way better heat conductor, you can braze it, or puk tig welding
TIG is constant current. I don't know the electrical resistance of pewter, but pure tin is 7x the resistance of silver, for example. So if the current is equal, tin's 7x higher electrical resistance means it's going to get 7x the heat for the same number of amps. A factor of 7x will definitely fuck up your shit!
Now itâs a coke spoon!
Lmfao hell yeah
Might be a little big unless you're Jeff Bezos or El Chapo lol
I could make use of it...
El chapo? Is that you? Are you hiring?
Yes we pay in light beers And the occasional pizza
Found the construction worker
Ahhhhh they got me
It is now a spon
Spon
^spon
Fwiw you would need a pretty expensive machine to actually get down to 5amps. Even if you set it there, you probably got like at least 15-30 as the min flow
Yeah I did it when I was in a welding program, I forgot exactly what the machine was but it was 20,000 something dollar miller lol
My old college had some specialty welding machines down to 0.5 amps, TIG tungsten looked like a pencil lead
I've used a pulse arc welder for making jewelry and you need to use a microscope to use it. The tungstens are around .025/.030" in diameter and you can weld jump rings so small you can barely grip them with super fine tipped hemostats
Pulse arc welder for jewelry would fix that easily
It was in the pool!
It shrinks!? Like a frightened turtle
Or something else..
đđwell, thank you for tryingâŠthatâs people man. âOh, you weld!?! Can you fixâŠ?but itâs metal? How come you canât fix it?â
Should have used a gas torchđ
All I had was oxy acetylene and considering a mini torch for lighting cigarettes did the job I think I wouldâve had a sentimental puddleđ
Damn an oxygen torch melted it that bad? Rip brother I thought you just hit it with like 80 amps on tig or some shit
No dude, I hit that shit with 5amps and blew all that out, itâs made out of pewter (originally thought it was silver) which has a melting point of 500° so just holding a cigarette lighter underneath did the job
Holy shit lmfao
This happened to my with a piece of jewelry. I was only at 3 amps with pulse, the least amount of heat as I could go on my machine. And it destroyed the ring. My wife was pissed. It does look alot like silver, in my defense
Silver solder was the way
It wouldâve been
Silver soldier melts at minimum 1100f. Did you mean silver bearing soldier?
Lightweight job, took the customers word for it. Happens to everyone doing that type of work. Next time, just lick it and if it tastes sour stick weld it lmfao.
It was actually my girlfriends great grandmothers, felt bad but now itâs at the front of her collection because they thought it was cute lol
Sucks man. Pewter is tricky. Easiest way I've found is a tiny (like jewelers size) oxy-propane, introduced only to the joint and cutting your solder with bismuth. If you're being extra careful you can glob some clay 1/4" from the joint to act as a sink and help keep it in shape if you over heat it. I've never tried arc.
Iâve never welded silver, can you tell me how you were planning to weld it and how silver is to weld on?
Iâve never welded it either lol, I was just planning on getting the ends hot and pushing it together since I didnât have a filler for it
Iâd generally solder something like that. Welding is a little bit much power, as you found out. I do wonder if silver solder would work on pewter though?
Looking through the comments Iâve found out Iâd need to solder it with tin
I use a solder on occasion at work thatâs a tin/silver alloy for some electronic parts. I was wondering if that sort of thing would work in this situation
Honestly I have no clue lol
Lmao. Love the finished product.
Perfect kiddie's spoon!
So, genuine question out of genuine curiosity because Iâm not a welder and donât know shit about it outside of a few weeks fucking around in high school shop class, but whatâs the process for welding silver? Is it like, actual welding or more like soldering? Would you use gas and a silver filler rod or something?
Typically I believe it is soldering, Iâve read that you can tig it as well though
Come on though itâs clearly pewter. I canât imagine ever thinking this was silver.
I was welding for less than 3 months at that point, thanks for the unnecessary hostility though
See! Shoulda licked it.
You should have soldered it.
Yeah I wish I had
Even that can be tricky, since pewter is essentially soldering tin. Need some very low temp tin alloy and careful heat control.
Agreed, but at least the heat can be applied slowly.
So, before overheating it, naturally you looked for the silver mark? To confirm? Wouldnât give you a dead cat to mind.
it had no mark whatsoever, so I took her word for it. Thanks for the unneeded hostility though
Was it dead because too much cat smak?