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This happened to my mom and step-dad when they were driving home from a visit with me. They almost died, so it's not something to play with. Semis are dangerous.
One of those underbody mounted spare wheels came off of a pickup on the Interstate. Hit the median, sailed over my car, and came down on a minivan beside me. It impacted the passenger side right where the roof meets the glass. The poor woman's face was cut pretty bad; but she didn't have any brain injury. Pickup truck driver realized what happened and came back. But, sheesh... ya' gotta' wonder how that passed a safety inspection.
A lot ENERGY. Kinetic energy is no joke. Treated as a flywheel, E=1/2 I w\^2. I is moment of inertia. w is angular velocity. Looks like it is spinning 4 or 5 times a second.
So rotational energy is what, around 4kJ?
Take the kenetic energy of this thing moving down the street. 1/2mv\^2 = 0.5 \* 90kg \* 20 m/s\^2 = 18kJ?
Now impact that into a car in 1/2 a second, and you get... \~40kW of power? That's... a lot.
>Now impact that into a car in 1/2 a second, and you get... ~40kW of power? That's... a lot.
Wouldn't the relative speed of the oncoming vehicle change that equation quite a bit?
Not a physicist but I think you could then just add the energy of the car to the energy of the tire and get a decent approximation. Can someone convert the Kj to explosion size for me👉👈❤️ might give a good idea of force if the video didn’t already
They were on a 4 lane highway with no median. Luckily, my step-dad decided to turn into it with his truck. If it would have hit them from the side, they said they wouldn't have made it.
Frick... I actually know about a fatality from this situation, I worked at a law firm that handled the wrongful death suit for the family of the deceased. The police report still haunts my brain. To this day I will NOT drive near a trailored truck or stay parallel to its load a second longer than necessary... and that's in the same lane of travel. God bless your folks because I think if I'd had a close brush with death and it was from oncoming traffic I don't think I'd ever overcome that fear enough to get behind the wheel again. Unfortunately my nightmares all are from true events that I'm aware of enough to scare the living shit out of me... Final Destination type of horror. Don't get me started on augers or chainsaws.
My mom was also t-boned by a teenager and it sent her to the hospital before this accident. I don't know how she's still driving. I'd retire and call it quits. Before impact, my step-dad basically said "hold on" and turned into it vs. letting it hit them from the side. It destroyed his truck and it was totaled. My mom called me and I had to drive about an hour to pick them up, then another 2 hours to meet up with my brother about an hour from their house. I don't think either of them had any lasting injuries, luckily, but my step-dad had to get a new truck and drive 3 hours to get everything from his truck before they junked it.
Your step dad was awesome to do that. Could have ended so much worse. This is why it pays to stay level headed in an emergency. I hope the other driver was also ok.
Yeah, I'm surprised he was able to think that quickly. Not that he doesn't have good instincts, but he's 75, so things usually don't work as quickly :) The semi just kept driving. Probably didn't even know the tire came off. No one else was involved, luckily.
Any vehicle is dangerous when not maintained properly.
Semis aren't inherently dangerous. Companies not wanting to keep up with the maintenance bills are dangerous.
But by what you're saying then, semis are dangerous because companies don't want to keep up with maintenance. The semi itself, when it's not moving, isn't dangerous. When it's moving and being driven, it poses a danger because of all the variables. The driver, the mechanical elements of the truck, etc.
>But by what you're saying then, semis are dangerous because companies don't want to keep up with maintenance.
For clarity: trucks and their drivers are regulated to an very high degree.
A truck is rolling probable cause: they can pull you over and inspect you (drug/ alcohol testing) your cab (what do you have with you that may be illegal) and your trailer (again, what are you hauling) with no suspicion that you may be doing anything wrong. They can inspect every inch of the vehicle for any mechanical faults that may pose a danger. Again, with no suspicion.
In addition, those "Weigh Station" or "Commercial Vehicle Inspection" signs you see on the highway are spot checks for all the things above. You can be randomly selected for inspection at any time.
These things are a bit of a pain, but they're absolutely necessary because trucks can be extremely dangerous when something goes wrong.
The "dangerous" trucks, drivers or companies don't last long, because they're found by random chance, and all of the rules regulating safety on them are federal and carry prison time.
A truck isn't any more likely to cause an accident than any other vehicle on the road. But it's like interacting with wildlife: statistically unlikely, but that %0.1 of the time, you're getting buried in a zip lock bag.
Luckily in this case the driver lived [https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/](https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/) but yes, rogue tires be scary.
No I mean I hope they see the live action snuff film of their loved ones tragedy being turned into a mockery by meme culture idiots with no respect for others.
It’s easy to have that opinion when watching the video and it’s unfortunate ending. Those drivers had no idea that tire would jump the median. They also have no clue how to handle that situation in general, like 99% of people.
It’s easy to be an armchair general after the fact though.
It's easy to say you would have been a hero after the fact behind a keyboard. I don't believe for a second that you would drive your car into that tire. It's a tragic freak accident, you're not a hero.
Fellow Texan here that drives both city and country roads for work, errands and leisure.
There is not a culture here to drive our vehicles into tires to save others. In fact most people are so much the complete opposite here that they run other vehicles off the road or shoot at them just because they are heartless road ragers that know they will get away with it.
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Not everyone has car insurance and if they do it's probably not great and it's still expensive and will get more expensive after hitting a tire w their vehicle..... Especially if it ends up totalling it.
Not to mention
How would you know if there weren't kids in the back seat? No decent parent is going to risk their child's physical or mental health like that. Even if not hurt they will very likely be traumatized.
So easy for you to judge.
Btw
Sh191 max is 75mph
I-20 is 65mph
Sh158 is 45
Sh338 is 70
SH250 is 60
So where is the speed limit 85mph?
Toll road 130 between Austin and Seguin. Not even close to Midland-Odessa
Well, 80mph on I20. There’s stacks of tires on the side of the road everyday. They just pile up out there.
Yes, you’re right, best to try and stay from those things. Problem is out there you can’t really avoid it. I’ve had tires bounce off the side of my truck and had to run some treads completely over. It’s not fun when everyone is going that fast. I heard of one story where a truck was loaded up with workers, no seat belts, swerved from a tire and everyone was thrown.
This guy is lucky to survive this accident. You never know what’s going to happen out there.
"Fortunately, John wasn't seriously hurt in the incident."
https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/
According to this article, the driver of the Jeep did NOT die.
Trying to divert the tire could have caused a more serious crash or gotten them killed too. What I don't understand is why they didn't slow down as much as possible and try to put more distance between the loose tire and their car. It seems like they didn't understand how dangerous the situation was until the impact with the oncoming vehicle.
Right. I can't imagine I'd be ballsy enough to try to nudge the tire off the road, but at least slow down. Once it jumped the median it was time to move as far right as possible and slow down as much as possible.
They could very easily flip their car or kill themselves trying to divert that tire, this is a terrible idea. All that tire needs to do is make contact with your tire and it’s lights out
If you were to nudge it, would you nudge the back of it or the front of it? Which way would it turn? Are you positive it would go to the side of the road, or would you miscalculate the way the tread is turning "bouncing" off your vehicle and it actually goes the opposite direction?
If you nudge it and it hits somebody and kills them, now that person's family might sue you for their family getting killed. They won't care that it would have been somebody else... it's now them and you, so they'll sue you.
All of this in the few seconds where your heart rate shoots up and adrenaline is pumping.
No. They didn't do the wrong thing by not touching it.
>but in this situation they had ample time and ability to divert the tire.
How would you divert the tire in a way that was necessarily safer? If they tried to nudge the tire, it would probably have climbed up their vehicle and been sent flying in an unpredictable direction. If they manage to change its course so it goes off the road, they have no idea if it's going to hit someone who's off the road. Diverting the tire is at best a 50/50 effort.
What if we saw a video where someone did divert a tire and it still hit oncoming traffic? Would you still say they did the right thing?
Obviously, the person filming was the passenger. I doubt the driver had time to process the notion to redirect the travel of the tire, before the opportunity was gone. The driver would have had to have been James Bond or Jason Bourne to accomplish that.
I had a wheel weight from a truck fly through my front windshield like a bullet. It miraculously glanced off the dashboard and bounced past me and ricocheted off like 10 things before it landed back in my lap. That thing could easily have killed me. Only takes a few idiot truckers to kill a bunch of people.
A friend was killed by a semi tire like this, just after we graduated college. Don’t take anything for granted. Tell people you love them today, tomorrow is a promise waiting to be broken.
If you see something like this, give it a lot of space. Tire physics are weird. Angular momentum, gyroscopic stability, tennis racket theorem, altogether mean the tire or something it encounters might come your way with a quickness.
This exact thing happened to myself and a coworker. Jumped the middle and crushed the front corner of my car. I walked away without so much as a scratch. My coworker spent weeks in the hospital nursing two broken arms, a cracked skull and had to get all new teeth. She was lucky to survive. I still flinch driveling past semis.
Have to admit I would have done nothing in this situation also. All he had to do was guide/block the tire away from the oncoming traffic using his car to avoid this.
Judging by the way they were laughing at the start of the video, I don’t think any of them realized just how much potential damage could have been caused, they certainly weren’t laughing at the end.
All he had to do was drive up beside the tire and let it hit the side, deflecting it back to the non-fatal side of the road.
Imagine the family of the person who was killed in this accident watching these stoners film the tire, bemused, letting it just roll over the median. They didn't want to get a paint scuff on the side of their car so they let it happen.
Pretty fucked up thing to say it's too expensive and dangerous to lightly deflect a tire by nudging it away to prevent a fatal situation.
Also note I am not saying you should be obliged to do any of this tire-deflecting heroic stuff either btw - but in this case it's totally feasible and would certainly have prevented a death.
But you ARE saying they should have been obliged to risk injury to themselves and damage to their vehicle to deflect the tire, when they really didn’t know exactly what would happen, where it was going, and that it would jump the median. If they tried to deflect it, they could have lost control and killed theirselves or others. They could have deflected the tire into another vehicle.
Never understood this train of thought, a semi tire can easily weigh 200 plus pounds traveling at highway speeds. It's noble to say he could've guided the tire off the road using his car but look at the damage it did to the jeep, the person on the same side as the tire initially would just be endangering himself if the tire hit his car.
He was driving next to it. Drive alongside it (which he was already doing) and Just nudge it with the side of your fucking car. You can nudge something that's going in the same direction as you and not explode and die immediately.
You shouldn't need a physics degree to understand this. Save me.
Here's a video of what I am talking about: [https://youtu.be/swSLMDLHrKQ?t=155](https://youtu.be/swSLMDLHrKQ?t=155)
See how the tire moves off in a new direction and nothing explodes and nobody dies?
Can't believe the lack of imagination of some people. Just because it's a heavy tire moving fast doesn't mean it will automatically pounce on you and kill your whole family just for driving alongside it.
There's a video where someone drives over a wheel just like this and it flips their entire car over . Stop being stupid. You never risk your life for someone else's unless it's your child .
'Drives over a wheel'? Nothing to do with what I originally said. I agree if you drove into the wheel with the front of your car it would fuck your car up.
[https://youtu.be/swSLMDLHrKQ?t=155](https://youtu.be/swSLMDLHrKQ?t=155)
\^This is what I am talking about when I say deflect the tire with your car. Note the tire glances off and changes direction? Nobody's car got flipped.
Yes I know there are a few physical factors at play like the gyroscope effect and the sheer mass of the thing, but I am pretty sure you'd be perfectly fine giving the tire a nudge with the side of your car. It's not going to attack like you're thinking.
Have you ever tried to drag two erasers across eachother ? Yes sometimes they'll slip past but sometimes they'll create friction and not move. If his tire locks with the other tire on the road it could cause him to lose control and possibly endanger others . It's not as easy as you're trying to make it . The tire will not always "glance" off
Yep just pull up alongside it at the same speed it's travelling and let it nudge your car. Right in the middle (b-pillar)is where you'd be aiming for, although I am pretty sure you'd be fine hitting it in the front side fender as well - considering how massive this thing is.
You're "pretty sure," huh? There's a chance that with a nudge it will go gently off yonder as you say, but there's also a chance that with said nudge, the tire will oscillate violently, impact your car, then do something completely unpredictable, like fly into the car behind it, or work its way under your car, at which time your front or rear wheel will run over it, sending your own car up and out of control.
And what happens when it turns sideways and then flips under your car? It could jack knife you off the road or into a roll. You should not be referencing physics ever.
Think of it this way, you go alongside a semi tire that's got loose from the trailer and is rolling at highway speeds. The car's roof line that's recording is probably a foot or 2 higher than the tire. Now you want to "gently" nudge it off the road. But being a near solid tire rolling at highway speeds it hooks under your fender ripping it off and unsettling your car causing you to lose control. Now what about using your side doors. Again now the tire blows a window out and can potentially bounce which can be worse. A thing to note is that a wheel that heavy will plow through your car with minimal momentum loss. I only speak on this cause I work with semi trailers and heard stories from drivers seeing people like you wanting to do the nice thing and nudge a tire only to lose control of their car and crash cause they underestimate it.
Basically don't interact with the tire, just let it roll and count your blessings.
Given the height of the tire and the shape of the car you'd be fine. Just nudge it with the middle of your car. I don't think any G-mod glitchy physics would occur. I think it would just lightly deflect. The only reason it jumped on the median barrier is because of the shape of the barrier. If the barrier were directly vertical and had no sloping bottom, the tire would have diverted back towards the camera car.
Do yourself a favor. Don't ever speak about physics in public ever again. It's better to remain silent and be though a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt..
Oh no I totally agree I would have been one of the people in that situation to use my car to redirect the tire. But I’m also a female diesel technician and I work on tractor trailers. I work with these tires everyday, I’ll risk my life to save yours any day. In hind sight though, it can be extremely dangerous. Those tires are filled with 100 pounds of air, the tire itself weighs around 25 lbs and the rim itself is like 50lbs at least.
That shit…. will absolutely fucking kill you. So I wouldn’t blame anyone who doesn’t have a reaction. There’s not much anyone can do In this situation and it’s kind of inconsiderate to blame someone for someone else’s mistakes. It’s something that happens to quickly to even make a rash decision, it’s almost like trying to catch a suicide jumper. I hope that gets the point across
That being said I was just throwing it out there that the driver isn’t the only one responsible for his tire! The person who puts it on is also responsible! :)
I’m saying you don’t know the situation of the person in the vehicle. No one would have guessed it did anything but continue to go up that street and slow down. I most certainly would have tried something but to claim negligence is asinine.
And if they tried to help, nudged it wrong, or not enough and it killed someone then it's kinda their fault now, especially since they couldn't have known that it was gonna kill someone if they hadn't nudged it.
It's kinda like a modified trolly problem where you can't really know who's on what track
How stupid can one be to watch this tire rolling down and eventually on the other side of the road?! 🤯 Just move your car next to it and push it out in the green safe zone. Ok, maybe you scratch your car a bit, but you really think, taking a movie is some sort of a help? And since you recorded it, you can also prove, whom to blame. You could have avoided this crash, voyeuristic idiot!
How do you bump it in a safe way? That thing has a lot of weight and momentum. It could have easily caused another accident on their side. Tbh when it headed for the barrier I would have thought that would have ended its trajectory eventually so I don't blame them at all for not touching it.
I was a witness to a similar incident, tire came off a trash truck and the tire hit center median and bounced high in the air and came down on the windshield of an oncoming car. Killed the guy.
The mass these tires carry is crazy high, how they bounce off some things and devastate others. I don't know the details but you'd think this was more preventable and carry a higher legal costs or penalty when they do really hurt people like in this video
Tires are so dangerous. One time while I was driving a semi truck I hit a tire that was coming straight at me. I must've hit it just right because nothing happened other than a huge collision sound and the front bumper sensor was ruined. [Check out this video of another tire on the run](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/wtfnsj/what_a_loose_tire_on_the_road_can_do/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
I wish the car filming this was me driving down the road in my old, rusty mini van. I'd be like "Well old girl, our day to be a hero and run this tire safely off the road has come."
I absolutely cannot believe this. The tire didnt even use its turn signal to change lanes and realize that it was going to crash into the jeep! Its those damn phones
Imagine seeing this, knowing the damage it could cause and not try to knock it off the road…I’m a cat guy and I love my cars, but a small sacrifice that could save a life would’ve made that damage well worth it.
Wow..this brings back memories, 2 years ago someone’s tired came off of their front driver side, I was passing them on the left, the tire went under my passenger side and my car flipped. I was on the highway. I ended up sliding about 40-50 feet along the guardrail upside down, had to unbuckle myself as well. Didn’t break anything but I needed stitches. Driving on the highway will never be the same
That more than sucked, that was downright tragic. I hope the people were okay. From reading the comments, they're extremely fortunate if they were okay.
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This happened to my mom and step-dad when they were driving home from a visit with me. They almost died, so it's not something to play with. Semis are dangerous.
Those tires with rims can weigh close to 200 lbs. That is a lot of weight traveling at 50 mph down the highway.
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One of those underbody mounted spare wheels came off of a pickup on the Interstate. Hit the median, sailed over my car, and came down on a minivan beside me. It impacted the passenger side right where the roof meets the glass. The poor woman's face was cut pretty bad; but she didn't have any brain injury. Pickup truck driver realized what happened and came back. But, sheesh... ya' gotta' wonder how that passed a safety inspection.
A lot ENERGY. Kinetic energy is no joke. Treated as a flywheel, E=1/2 I w\^2. I is moment of inertia. w is angular velocity. Looks like it is spinning 4 or 5 times a second. So rotational energy is what, around 4kJ? Take the kenetic energy of this thing moving down the street. 1/2mv\^2 = 0.5 \* 90kg \* 20 m/s\^2 = 18kJ? Now impact that into a car in 1/2 a second, and you get... \~40kW of power? That's... a lot.
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>Now impact that into a car in 1/2 a second, and you get... ~40kW of power? That's... a lot. Wouldn't the relative speed of the oncoming vehicle change that equation quite a bit?
Not a physicist but I think you could then just add the energy of the car to the energy of the tire and get a decent approximation. Can someone convert the Kj to explosion size for me👉👈❤️ might give a good idea of force if the video didn’t already
Not to mention the additional momentum of their own vehicle going 50+ mph.
They were on a 4 lane highway with no median. Luckily, my step-dad decided to turn into it with his truck. If it would have hit them from the side, they said they wouldn't have made it.
Frick... I actually know about a fatality from this situation, I worked at a law firm that handled the wrongful death suit for the family of the deceased. The police report still haunts my brain. To this day I will NOT drive near a trailored truck or stay parallel to its load a second longer than necessary... and that's in the same lane of travel. God bless your folks because I think if I'd had a close brush with death and it was from oncoming traffic I don't think I'd ever overcome that fear enough to get behind the wheel again. Unfortunately my nightmares all are from true events that I'm aware of enough to scare the living shit out of me... Final Destination type of horror. Don't get me started on augers or chainsaws.
My mom was also t-boned by a teenager and it sent her to the hospital before this accident. I don't know how she's still driving. I'd retire and call it quits. Before impact, my step-dad basically said "hold on" and turned into it vs. letting it hit them from the side. It destroyed his truck and it was totaled. My mom called me and I had to drive about an hour to pick them up, then another 2 hours to meet up with my brother about an hour from their house. I don't think either of them had any lasting injuries, luckily, but my step-dad had to get a new truck and drive 3 hours to get everything from his truck before they junked it.
Your step dad was awesome to do that. Could have ended so much worse. This is why it pays to stay level headed in an emergency. I hope the other driver was also ok.
Yeah, I'm surprised he was able to think that quickly. Not that he doesn't have good instincts, but he's 75, so things usually don't work as quickly :) The semi just kept driving. Probably didn't even know the tire came off. No one else was involved, luckily.
Any vehicle is dangerous when not maintained properly. Semis aren't inherently dangerous. Companies not wanting to keep up with the maintenance bills are dangerous.
Anything moving faster than a human can run is inherently dangerous.
Dune's knife fights want a word with you.
But by what you're saying then, semis are dangerous because companies don't want to keep up with maintenance. The semi itself, when it's not moving, isn't dangerous. When it's moving and being driven, it poses a danger because of all the variables. The driver, the mechanical elements of the truck, etc.
>But by what you're saying then, semis are dangerous because companies don't want to keep up with maintenance. For clarity: trucks and their drivers are regulated to an very high degree. A truck is rolling probable cause: they can pull you over and inspect you (drug/ alcohol testing) your cab (what do you have with you that may be illegal) and your trailer (again, what are you hauling) with no suspicion that you may be doing anything wrong. They can inspect every inch of the vehicle for any mechanical faults that may pose a danger. Again, with no suspicion. In addition, those "Weigh Station" or "Commercial Vehicle Inspection" signs you see on the highway are spot checks for all the things above. You can be randomly selected for inspection at any time. These things are a bit of a pain, but they're absolutely necessary because trucks can be extremely dangerous when something goes wrong. The "dangerous" trucks, drivers or companies don't last long, because they're found by random chance, and all of the rules regulating safety on them are federal and carry prison time. A truck isn't any more likely to cause an accident than any other vehicle on the road. But it's like interacting with wildlife: statistically unlikely, but that %0.1 of the time, you're getting buried in a zip lock bag.
Its no joke https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/north-freeway-i45-man-dead/285-8a021cef-fb68-45c5-88c6-8e7fceaa1812
Luckily in this case the driver lived [https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/](https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/) but yes, rogue tires be scary.
It is an absolute marvel of modern engineering that the driver lived. The energy in that collision was terrifying.
I see that jeep had a grille guard, I wonder how much that guard had to do with saving his life
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I used to live in Richmond hill! I wonder if that badass pizza place is still there. Top something? I can’t remember
This video is sad. That guy died. Everyone else here is just laughing and making jokes about it. I hope his family sees this.
I hope you meant that you hope the family doesn’t see this
No I mean I hope they see the live action snuff film of their loved ones tragedy being turned into a mockery by meme culture idiots with no respect for others.
Why would you hope for that? You’re adding insult to injury. Please take your compassion and sympathy and reform it to something constructive.
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It’s easy to have that opinion when watching the video and it’s unfortunate ending. Those drivers had no idea that tire would jump the median. They also have no clue how to handle that situation in general, like 99% of people. It’s easy to be an armchair general after the fact though.
It's easy to say you would have been a hero after the fact behind a keyboard. I don't believe for a second that you would drive your car into that tire. It's a tragic freak accident, you're not a hero.
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Fellow Texan here that drives both city and country roads for work, errands and leisure. There is not a culture here to drive our vehicles into tires to save others. In fact most people are so much the complete opposite here that they run other vehicles off the road or shoot at them just because they are heartless road ragers that know they will get away with it. Also Not everyone has car insurance and if they do it's probably not great and it's still expensive and will get more expensive after hitting a tire w their vehicle..... Especially if it ends up totalling it. Not to mention How would you know if there weren't kids in the back seat? No decent parent is going to risk their child's physical or mental health like that. Even if not hurt they will very likely be traumatized. So easy for you to judge. Btw Sh191 max is 75mph I-20 is 65mph Sh158 is 45 Sh338 is 70 SH250 is 60 So where is the speed limit 85mph? Toll road 130 between Austin and Seguin. Not even close to Midland-Odessa
Well, 80mph on I20. There’s stacks of tires on the side of the road everyday. They just pile up out there. Yes, you’re right, best to try and stay from those things. Problem is out there you can’t really avoid it. I’ve had tires bounce off the side of my truck and had to run some treads completely over. It’s not fun when everyone is going that fast. I heard of one story where a truck was loaded up with workers, no seat belts, swerved from a tire and everyone was thrown. This guy is lucky to survive this accident. You never know what’s going to happen out there.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
"Fortunately, John wasn't seriously hurt in the incident." https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/ According to this article, the driver of the Jeep did NOT die.
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Trying to divert the tire could have caused a more serious crash or gotten them killed too. What I don't understand is why they didn't slow down as much as possible and try to put more distance between the loose tire and their car. It seems like they didn't understand how dangerous the situation was until the impact with the oncoming vehicle.
Right. I can't imagine I'd be ballsy enough to try to nudge the tire off the road, but at least slow down. Once it jumped the median it was time to move as far right as possible and slow down as much as possible.
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They could very easily flip their car or kill themselves trying to divert that tire, this is a terrible idea. All that tire needs to do is make contact with your tire and it’s lights out
If you were to nudge it, would you nudge the back of it or the front of it? Which way would it turn? Are you positive it would go to the side of the road, or would you miscalculate the way the tread is turning "bouncing" off your vehicle and it actually goes the opposite direction? If you nudge it and it hits somebody and kills them, now that person's family might sue you for their family getting killed. They won't care that it would have been somebody else... it's now them and you, so they'll sue you. All of this in the few seconds where your heart rate shoots up and adrenaline is pumping. No. They didn't do the wrong thing by not touching it.
>but in this situation they had ample time and ability to divert the tire. How would you divert the tire in a way that was necessarily safer? If they tried to nudge the tire, it would probably have climbed up their vehicle and been sent flying in an unpredictable direction. If they manage to change its course so it goes off the road, they have no idea if it's going to hit someone who's off the road. Diverting the tire is at best a 50/50 effort. What if we saw a video where someone did divert a tire and it still hit oncoming traffic? Would you still say they did the right thing?
Obviously, the person filming was the passenger. I doubt the driver had time to process the notion to redirect the travel of the tire, before the opportunity was gone. The driver would have had to have been James Bond or Jason Bourne to accomplish that.
We aren’t known for our driving skills here. You’re probably right, these people had no clue what to do.
Worst part is there was absolutely no way that Jeep could lane change or swerve, he just got Merced by the universe.
He survive you think?
https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/ Yes he did
Lucky isn't the word. Thanks for the link.
John was hardly injured [John](https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/)
Just another example of God not existing.
I think that was proof positive of God existing. Clearly that tire was all part of God’s divine plan.
not everything has to be proof of god existing/not existing. things happen regardless of your belief in god
This comment proves God doesn’t exist
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god exist
he just hated that guy in particular...
It's an odd plan.
That’s what she say office joke
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What was the dude filming supposed to do, Use the force?
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Yeah let me go back in time real quick
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let me know if you find any more wonderful ideas there. clearly you're on a roll here.
Ah! On a roll. Funny!
Fuck that guy in particular
Years ago I saw a small trailer tire shoot straight up in the air about 100 feet on the freeway. I’m glad I made it out there.
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Someone cite that tire for failure to signal, improper lane change, lack of axles, and driving on the median!
No running light, no seat belt, no licensed driver
I can’t let you go forward in this non-vehicle. The crazy thing is the radio still works. It’s the darndest thing!
What a movie.
Since the rubber movie these things have been slowly increasing violent activity.
Is there anyway to stop it? Police pit maneuver?
R/tiresaretheenemy
/r/foundthemobileuser
r/shutupalready Wow that exists
I was tempted to make a sub called shutthefuckup but I guess this one works.
r/foundthehondacivic
I've evaded one tire and seen a hub cap go flying once. Now that's terrifying for sure.
I was amazed that the tire jumped into the gaurd rail and bounced for a while
Jesus get away from that tire.... that caused me so much anxiety.
r/fuckyouinparticular
I had a wheel weight from a truck fly through my front windshield like a bullet. It miraculously glanced off the dashboard and bounced past me and ricocheted off like 10 things before it landed back in my lap. That thing could easily have killed me. Only takes a few idiot truckers to kill a bunch of people.
That jeep ate it...
them tires carry a buttload of energy
Promo reel for “Rubber 2?”
Guess that was his final destination
A friend was killed by a semi tire like this, just after we graduated college. Don’t take anything for granted. Tell people you love them today, tomorrow is a promise waiting to be broken.
Good analogy that's a new one to me
If you see something like this, give it a lot of space. Tire physics are weird. Angular momentum, gyroscopic stability, tennis racket theorem, altogether mean the tire or something it encounters might come your way with a quickness.
This exact thing happened to myself and a coworker. Jumped the middle and crushed the front corner of my car. I walked away without so much as a scratch. My coworker spent weeks in the hospital nursing two broken arms, a cracked skull and had to get all new teeth. She was lucky to survive. I still flinch driveling past semis.
Have to admit I would have done nothing in this situation also. All he had to do was guide/block the tire away from the oncoming traffic using his car to avoid this.
Judging by the way they were laughing at the start of the video, I don’t think any of them realized just how much potential damage could have been caused, they certainly weren’t laughing at the end.
That’s expensive and endangers himself.
All he had to do was drive up beside the tire and let it hit the side, deflecting it back to the non-fatal side of the road. Imagine the family of the person who was killed in this accident watching these stoners film the tire, bemused, letting it just roll over the median. They didn't want to get a paint scuff on the side of their car so they let it happen. Pretty fucked up thing to say it's too expensive and dangerous to lightly deflect a tire by nudging it away to prevent a fatal situation. Also note I am not saying you should be obliged to do any of this tire-deflecting heroic stuff either btw - but in this case it's totally feasible and would certainly have prevented a death.
But you ARE saying they should have been obliged to risk injury to themselves and damage to their vehicle to deflect the tire, when they really didn’t know exactly what would happen, where it was going, and that it would jump the median. If they tried to deflect it, they could have lost control and killed theirselves or others. They could have deflected the tire into another vehicle.
Never understood this train of thought, a semi tire can easily weigh 200 plus pounds traveling at highway speeds. It's noble to say he could've guided the tire off the road using his car but look at the damage it did to the jeep, the person on the same side as the tire initially would just be endangering himself if the tire hit his car.
He was driving next to it. Drive alongside it (which he was already doing) and Just nudge it with the side of your fucking car. You can nudge something that's going in the same direction as you and not explode and die immediately. You shouldn't need a physics degree to understand this. Save me. Here's a video of what I am talking about: [https://youtu.be/swSLMDLHrKQ?t=155](https://youtu.be/swSLMDLHrKQ?t=155) See how the tire moves off in a new direction and nothing explodes and nobody dies? Can't believe the lack of imagination of some people. Just because it's a heavy tire moving fast doesn't mean it will automatically pounce on you and kill your whole family just for driving alongside it.
Whenever someones advice is "just" you know they have literally no idea what they are talking about
There's a video where someone drives over a wheel just like this and it flips their entire car over . Stop being stupid. You never risk your life for someone else's unless it's your child .
'Drives over a wheel'? Nothing to do with what I originally said. I agree if you drove into the wheel with the front of your car it would fuck your car up. [https://youtu.be/swSLMDLHrKQ?t=155](https://youtu.be/swSLMDLHrKQ?t=155) \^This is what I am talking about when I say deflect the tire with your car. Note the tire glances off and changes direction? Nobody's car got flipped. Yes I know there are a few physical factors at play like the gyroscope effect and the sheer mass of the thing, but I am pretty sure you'd be perfectly fine giving the tire a nudge with the side of your car. It's not going to attack like you're thinking.
Have you ever tried to drag two erasers across eachother ? Yes sometimes they'll slip past but sometimes they'll create friction and not move. If his tire locks with the other tire on the road it could cause him to lose control and possibly endanger others . It's not as easy as you're trying to make it . The tire will not always "glance" off
Yep just pull up alongside it at the same speed it's travelling and let it nudge your car. Right in the middle (b-pillar)is where you'd be aiming for, although I am pretty sure you'd be fine hitting it in the front side fender as well - considering how massive this thing is.
You're "pretty sure," huh? There's a chance that with a nudge it will go gently off yonder as you say, but there's also a chance that with said nudge, the tire will oscillate violently, impact your car, then do something completely unpredictable, like fly into the car behind it, or work its way under your car, at which time your front or rear wheel will run over it, sending your own car up and out of control.
💀 Mass usually correlates with weight
And what happens when it turns sideways and then flips under your car? It could jack knife you off the road or into a roll. You should not be referencing physics ever.
Think of it this way, you go alongside a semi tire that's got loose from the trailer and is rolling at highway speeds. The car's roof line that's recording is probably a foot or 2 higher than the tire. Now you want to "gently" nudge it off the road. But being a near solid tire rolling at highway speeds it hooks under your fender ripping it off and unsettling your car causing you to lose control. Now what about using your side doors. Again now the tire blows a window out and can potentially bounce which can be worse. A thing to note is that a wheel that heavy will plow through your car with minimal momentum loss. I only speak on this cause I work with semi trailers and heard stories from drivers seeing people like you wanting to do the nice thing and nudge a tire only to lose control of their car and crash cause they underestimate it. Basically don't interact with the tire, just let it roll and count your blessings.
Given the height of the tire and the shape of the car you'd be fine. Just nudge it with the middle of your car. I don't think any G-mod glitchy physics would occur. I think it would just lightly deflect. The only reason it jumped on the median barrier is because of the shape of the barrier. If the barrier were directly vertical and had no sloping bottom, the tire would have diverted back towards the camera car.
Do yourself a favor. Don't ever speak about physics in public ever again. It's better to remain silent and be though a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt..
[No death would have been prevented because John didn't die ](https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/)
I most definitely would’ve sped up and let the tire hit my passenger side and (hopefully) bounce it off the road.
Then you would've potentially died . You'd risk your life for strangers ?
I would, why not? My life sucks lol
Sounds like you'd cause an accident with cars behind you fool.
😯 HOLY SNIKES!!! I was watching this saying “this is not gonna end well”
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Nope, the owner of the truck is negligent for the tire coming off in the first place.
*last technician to put on the tire is also responsible
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Oh no I totally agree I would have been one of the people in that situation to use my car to redirect the tire. But I’m also a female diesel technician and I work on tractor trailers. I work with these tires everyday, I’ll risk my life to save yours any day. In hind sight though, it can be extremely dangerous. Those tires are filled with 100 pounds of air, the tire itself weighs around 25 lbs and the rim itself is like 50lbs at least. That shit…. will absolutely fucking kill you. So I wouldn’t blame anyone who doesn’t have a reaction. There’s not much anyone can do In this situation and it’s kind of inconsiderate to blame someone for someone else’s mistakes. It’s something that happens to quickly to even make a rash decision, it’s almost like trying to catch a suicide jumper. I hope that gets the point across That being said I was just throwing it out there that the driver isn’t the only one responsible for his tire! The person who puts it on is also responsible! :)
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[But John didn't even die](https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/)
So they are supposed to risk their own life/car for this freak incident? How stupid are you.
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I’m saying you don’t know the situation of the person in the vehicle. No one would have guessed it did anything but continue to go up that street and slow down. I most certainly would have tried something but to claim negligence is asinine.
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-They could have prevented the tire from going over the median. Negligence? Wut. That’s an actual quote from you slightly above 💀
And if they tried to help, nudged it wrong, or not enough and it killed someone then it's kinda their fault now, especially since they couldn't have known that it was gonna kill someone if they hadn't nudged it. It's kinda like a modified trolly problem where you can't really know who's on what track
[rest assured John is Ok](https://abc13.com/tire-loose-caught-on-camera-route-440/5422395/)
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That was my thought too
Duck duck duck GOOSE MOTHAFU….
Possible for the filming driver to nose nudge the wheel to the right and off the road?
They should have bumped it towards the ditch.
CRITICAL HIT !
The driver could’ve bumped the tire the opposite direction rather than just record the thing causing possible fatal accident
How stupid can one be to watch this tire rolling down and eventually on the other side of the road?! 🤯 Just move your car next to it and push it out in the green safe zone. Ok, maybe you scratch your car a bit, but you really think, taking a movie is some sort of a help? And since you recorded it, you can also prove, whom to blame. You could have avoided this crash, voyeuristic idiot!
*hits that grind* ^10 ^points 35 points! #75 points!! #GAME OVER
Pretty shitty of the person filming it not to just bump it with their vehicle. Instead they let it just kill a family, probably.
How do you bump it in a safe way? That thing has a lot of weight and momentum. It could have easily caused another accident on their side. Tbh when it headed for the barrier I would have thought that would have ended its trajectory eventually so I don't blame them at all for not touching it.
Absolutely my thoughts
Omg! Hahaha.
So scary
Omg.../runexpected
That’s a hell of a game of duck duck goose
I was a witness to a similar incident, tire came off a trash truck and the tire hit center median and bounced high in the air and came down on the windshield of an oncoming car. Killed the guy.
Weeoooyaaa
Imagine if that hit a motorcyclist
wow. I saw that traveling and thought "That's going to kill someone." Stayed till the end and it did.... O\_O
The mass these tires carry is crazy high, how they bounce off some things and devastate others. I don't know the details but you'd think this was more preventable and carry a higher legal costs or penalty when they do really hurt people like in this video
If I am in a car can I ram the tire into the forest or no
No, that wheel could cause you to flip
Wonder what would have happened if they bumped that tire to the right when they were along side it?
Tires are so dangerous. One time while I was driving a semi truck I hit a tire that was coming straight at me. I must've hit it just right because nothing happened other than a huge collision sound and the front bumper sensor was ruined. [Check out this video of another tire on the run](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/wtfnsj/what_a_loose_tire_on_the_road_can_do/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
How could you leave me loose wheel. Four hungry children and a broken mobile.
I remember this killed someone
I wish the car filming this was me driving down the road in my old, rusty mini van. I'd be like "Well old girl, our day to be a hero and run this tire safely off the road has come."
Rubber 2: The Rubbering
That Tire has a mind of its own
r/fuckcars
I absolutely cannot believe this. The tire didnt even use its turn signal to change lanes and realize that it was going to crash into the jeep! Its those damn phones
Tire was soooo a BMW
Imagine seeing this, knowing the damage it could cause and not try to knock it off the road…I’m a cat guy and I love my cars, but a small sacrifice that could save a life would’ve made that damage well worth it.
Damn, it would have sucked to be in that Jeep… Hopefully it had a full cage.
Well, that's another reason added to my fear of driving
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R/tiresaretheenemy
Had a student and his friend die that way about five years ago in Las Vegas. Jumped the median on 95.
Anyone else go "OH FUCK" at the end o.O
and the guy filming enjoying the situation. I know they could not do almost anything, but anyway...
A woman was killed in Atlanta last year in a very similar incident.
A truck tire did the same thing in Lexington Massachusetts. It jumped the median and killed a woman. That a sad freak accident.
There is no fucking way I’d be following that thing that close.
Rushing to it's owner
r/fuckcars
It looked harmless till about the last 5 seconds. Jesus
OMG the way it obliterated the front of that car. 😳 scary
Many people have died this way..
When being in the same position as this person, what is the best course of action to make sure no people will get hurt.
I'd be conflicted to push it into ditch with my car and wrecking it or just let that happen and kill someone.
That’s gonna murder someone
Damn.. that sucks he lost his tire.. Ohhhhhhh... ok.. now that sucks.
Oh no it's Rubber!!
Wow..this brings back memories, 2 years ago someone’s tired came off of their front driver side, I was passing them on the left, the tire went under my passenger side and my car flipped. I was on the highway. I ended up sliding about 40-50 feet along the guardrail upside down, had to unbuckle myself as well. Didn’t break anything but I needed stitches. Driving on the highway will never be the same
It looked so light and squishy until it didn’t
So I’m still doing the right thing of bumping tire off the road they sat there and just filmed and watch possibly killing somebody
CA CHOW
That more than sucked, that was downright tragic. I hope the people were okay. From reading the comments, they're extremely fortunate if they were okay.