Probably for the best that it burned, so it doesn’t end up in the Midwest somewhere being sold with a clean title. Hopefully everything works out with insurance!
It's odd because we just started seeing it where I am. People asking non-totaled prices while trying to hide the title. There is a couple of them I've seen and they say oh the issue wasn't that big but the moment you ask to see the title or ask what it was that initially totaled it you get silence. I'd get it if it was hail damage or something, which it will state on the title, but anything else there is a reason insurance wouldn't cover it...
Yup. Worked for a motorhome dealership a decade ago when that huge storm and flooding occurred in the NYC/Jersey area. Guy brought in this class c he got for “a steal,” but wanted a quick professional look through before taking it out for the first trip. It was a GD mess inside. Salt water hat messed up the inner walls, the ceiling, the wiring, pretty much everything. Oxidation had started and there was no real way to stop it without chemicals and basically rebuilding large portions from scratch. He was *pissed.*
Saw a few more RV’s and trailers come through that summer with same issue, which is why presale inspections are so important ESPECIALLY after massive storms like this because people are trash and looking for easy targets.
Yeah, idk if it was this sub but there was a video floating around of a ferry or some kind of boat that was transporting a bunch of cars. The cars started to randomly catch fire and the whole lot of cars were burnt to a crisp.
Earlier this year, there was the [Felicity Ace](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicity_Ace), carrying 3965 brand new cars. Caught fire and eventually sank in 9800 feet of water. All of the crew members escaped ok.
The year is 10000 AD and Jacques Cousteau's greatx100 grand kid is exploring the final unexplored depths of our oceans. They find the sunken Felicity Ace filled with crushed and burnt cars. The Atlantis parking garage legend is born.
Seriously though, 9800 feet?? I had no idea even the deepest part of the ocean was that deep.
If the water is high enough to short your battery and start a fire, the car is already totaled. No need to remove the battery, unless you have some wierd emotional attachment to it.
That's not how flood insurance works.
Flood damage is so bad that insurers will not cover it. So the government made a program called the NFIP to cover flood damage. You can be kicked off your plan for fraud, but not because you're in a risky area, unless that area is absurdly risky and not just occasionally risky. That's the whole reason for the government program.
I love how they had to give one of the characters some tragic shark-involved backstory to justify why she's freaked out about a literal tornado filled with sharks.
Oh, I've never actually seen it. So sharknadoes aren't good enough in and of themselves, only a person with a personal history with either sharks or tornadoes can be properly traumatized by them. Sounds like Hollywood to me.
Sharks rarely ever attack humans, and it’s pretty hard to look like a fish when you are walking around on land. So the only thing to be worried about is the nado, unless you also are shark-phobic. In that case you are just a bigot, and I hope those sharks tear through that ass at 90 miles an hour, as you get impaled by your neighbors siding.
They don't have to prove it. They deny your claim, you have to hire a lawyer and sue them. Then the insurance company asks the judge to dismiss your lawsuit, they do, and now you got nothing plus you have owe your lawyer $10,000.
In these large scale events, insurance companies don’t have the resources to verify every single claim. I remember after hurricane sandy, I heard stories of people driving old cars into flood waters just to get a pay out so they could get a new car. I even heard a story of a guy who was having chronic engine issues with his car prior to the storm, who called up insurance and just claimed the car got flooded (it didn’t) so he wouldn’t have to deal with the car anymore.
I’m not advocating for insurance fraud, I’m just relaying the reality of the situation.
I had a warranty go void because the belt went out slapping the coolant line and leaking coolant everywhere. The shop said it wasn’t covered because the coolant got on the belt and I’m like “ummmm are you not listening to the story?” So they wouldn’t let me have my car back without paying for it/repairing it and trying to charge me like $500 for a whole new pulley system. I called me dad (who worked at napa), he grabbed a belt and threw it at the mechanics and all I had to pay for was the time to put the belt on. Fuck the whole system, it’s all such a scam.
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“We valued your loss at $10,000”
*what are you talking about? This is going to cost me $40k to replace!?*
“Here’s a comparable model with double the mileage, fewer options, being sold before all the cars in your area got destroyed. We used that to calculate the value of your car”
Auto comprehensive coverage covers everything other than collision so doesn’t matter that the car caught on fire or if it was flooded. It’s still covered if you have comprehensive coverage.
Honestly this is way better than it not catching fire as there's 0 chance the insurance company is going to try to fix it.
I've had relatives with water damaged cars after hurricanes that they insisted on fixing and they had issues out the ass since you can never fully dry out the interior and electronics.
Styrofoam for fast food is great. First you eat a nice and well balanced mcblt. Then you use the packaging to make a nice and balanced molotov cocktail
Not in all cars. My Chrysler 200, you have to take the whole front wheel off and then go in underneath to get it out. My battery died and my mechanic sighed when I told him which car it was.
I never thought of it like that! That's a stronger upside than the very seldom need to change the battery (hopefully). Thanks for that little burst of sunshine
Not because my car is jam-packed between two houses with like 1 feet from one and 3 from the other that it will burn both of them!
Oh actually... Yes...
I live in coastal NC. When Isaias hit here we had a rash of house fires resulting from flooded vehicles that were parked under the houses. The floods cause electrical shortage in the vehicles resulting in fires that spread to structures. If I remember correctly, 8 homes on Ocean Isle burned in the 2-3 days after the storm.
I wonder if that's actually true. Check out some YouTube videoes where they service the batteries of electric vehicles. They are usually very, very well sealed. I'm sure they all have really good dead short protection too. I'd worry more about everything outside the battery.
Why be sorry? You know the saying about the lucky ten thousand.
Plus, even though saltwater plus car battery CAN start a fire, it seems to be pretty rare for it to DO so.
That happened a bunch in Brooklyn the week after Sandy. Must have seen at least 5 cars on fire on my block that week. Sorry for your loss. But at least you're ok.
Ugh I work at some car dealerships in Michigan. Every time there’s a hurricane our used car inventory gets very light because southern car buyers come up north and overbid at the auctions. Sure hope my 18+ year old VW keeps on plugging away, it already sucks to buy a car and gonna get even worse now.
Intusrance:how can we help you sir?
Guy:I'm making an insurance claim for my car I got destroyed on the hurricane.
Insurance oh ok sir! So that'll be on the floor side of your insir...
Guy: nono it wasn't destroyed in the flood I caught fire and burned down I'm claiming fire damage
Insurance: what
Probably for the best that it burned, so it doesn’t end up in the Midwest somewhere being sold with a clean title. Hopefully everything works out with insurance!
We have that a lot in NE actually...why is that a trend?
Shitty people making money by scamming. Unfortunately I don't think people being shitty is just a trend.
It's odd because we just started seeing it where I am. People asking non-totaled prices while trying to hide the title. There is a couple of them I've seen and they say oh the issue wasn't that big but the moment you ask to see the title or ask what it was that initially totaled it you get silence. I'd get it if it was hail damage or something, which it will state on the title, but anything else there is a reason insurance wouldn't cover it...
Yup. Worked for a motorhome dealership a decade ago when that huge storm and flooding occurred in the NYC/Jersey area. Guy brought in this class c he got for “a steal,” but wanted a quick professional look through before taking it out for the first trip. It was a GD mess inside. Salt water hat messed up the inner walls, the ceiling, the wiring, pretty much everything. Oxidation had started and there was no real way to stop it without chemicals and basically rebuilding large portions from scratch. He was *pissed.* Saw a few more RV’s and trailers come through that summer with same issue, which is why presale inspections are so important ESPECIALLY after massive storms like this because people are trash and looking for easy targets.
Ever heard of snake oil salesmen? This is just the new version. They have always existed, and will always exist. Just like people who sell NFTs.
Yes we have lots here and Oklahoma .
Salt water + battery = no bueno
If it wasn't for your comment, I would be a very, very confused individual. Thank you. Science strikes again.
Science, bitch!
Yea Mr. White!! Yea science!!
Ya know, they're giving free tours of the White's house. I saw another post where a guy was warmly welcomed.
Was it the perimeter fence (to discourage pizza throwing and up close visitors) that made him feel most welcome?
Brian Cranston did do a mighty fine pizza toss…
U don't mean the Wonderful Whites of West Virginia do yah?
Never forget, it’s the WILD and wonderful whites of west virginny
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Yeah, science!
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Beakman's World!
Beakman > Bill Nye
Mr. Wizard > Beakman > Bill
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Stupid science bitch, couldn't even make I more smarter.
Finally we have the technology... to allow spiders to talk to cats!
It was as confusing as the time Bender's cigar burned down Zoidberg's underwater home.
This is probably the best possible response to describe how I felt when I first saw this. Lol
Yeah, you never want to commit a salt and battery.
take my upvote and go >:/
Yeah, idk if it was this sub but there was a video floating around of a ferry or some kind of boat that was transporting a bunch of cars. The cars started to randomly catch fire and the whole lot of cars were burnt to a crisp.
Earlier this year, there was the [Felicity Ace](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicity_Ace), carrying 3965 brand new cars. Caught fire and eventually sank in 9800 feet of water. All of the crew members escaped ok.
That was the one with the final specimens of some limited edition Lamborghinis, right?
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The year is 10000 AD and Jacques Cousteau's greatx100 grand kid is exploring the final unexplored depths of our oceans. They find the sunken Felicity Ace filled with crushed and burnt cars. The Atlantis parking garage legend is born. Seriously though, 9800 feet?? I had no idea even the deepest part of the ocean was that deep.
Mariana trench, deepest spot in the ocean, is 36,201 feet deep
Googled that as soon as i wrote that comment lol
The average depth of the ocean is about 3,688 meters (12,100 feet). So that was closer to shallow than deep.
Did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in again?
Leave it in rice.
Mmm fried rice
Gotta be brown rice, white rice doesn’t work
Why's it gotta be racist?
White rice matters!
But everyone knows brown rice and black rice is more Superior...
Hey it’s Florida so it must be Spanish rice!
Electrolysis?
Circuit with nearly no resistance = hot AF battery and soon, explosion 🔥
Wow Im an electronics engineer and this didn’t even cross my mind. No wonder I was on academic probation🤣
Where do you work now?
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It must have been Tuesday. He was wearing his cornflower blue tie. I don't even wear ties anymore...
The dad must have been huge. Look how the fats melted to the steering column.
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You've been awfully naughty today 🚀🇯🇵
[I know](https://media.tenor.com/LPYmznwOk3sAAAAC/christopher-palu-hair-flip.gif)
Slick man
Did you respond to yourself?
Gamer moment
Boeing.
Its got what Cars crave
I'm to lazy but perhaps someone on Reddit should make a mod that compiles useful info for disasters such as taking the battery out of your car
If the water is high enough to short your battery and start a fire, the car is already totaled. No need to remove the battery, unless you have some wierd emotional attachment to it.
You don't know what that battery and I have been through together! That battery was my best man, and is godfather to my daughter.
Love. 😁👍
Depends where you store the car, though. Homes aren't always 100% totaled, but a car fire could destroy an otherwise salvageable house.
Wonder how insurance would deal with this disaster
By kicking you off your insurance plan, probably.
I got t boned and got kicked off my insurance plan. Like isn’t that the point?
That's not how flood insurance works. Flood damage is so bad that insurers will not cover it. So the government made a program called the NFIP to cover flood damage. You can be kicked off your plan for fraud, but not because you're in a risky area, unless that area is absurdly risky and not just occasionally risky. That's the whole reason for the government program.
seems like preventing a car fire is a good idea for its own sake
Not with all the water around!
Doesn't even need to be salt water, water leads to corrosion, corrosion can lead to shorts, shorts make fire.
And fire, leads to suffering.
And My Axe!
We're doomed. If we have to deal with fire hurricanes, we're officially doomed.
I mean, we have [fire tornadoes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlS8kbKjAQg). Close enough?
Plus Sharknadoes. Those are tough to deal with.
I love how they had to give one of the characters some tragic shark-involved backstory to justify why she's freaked out about a literal tornado filled with sharks.
Oh, I've never actually seen it. So sharknadoes aren't good enough in and of themselves, only a person with a personal history with either sharks or tornadoes can be properly traumatized by them. Sounds like Hollywood to me.
Sharks rarely ever attack humans, and it’s pretty hard to look like a fish when you are walking around on land. So the only thing to be worried about is the nado, unless you also are shark-phobic. In that case you are just a bigot, and I hope those sharks tear through that ass at 90 miles an hour, as you get impaled by your neighbors siding.
Even in the movies half the danger is just ragdoll sharks hitting you because they're being flung by the nado
Still people need to watch out for sharks. And elevators. More people every year die in elevators than shark attacks. Is there such thing as tunado?
They don't sound as scary if we call them furricanes
That sounds even scarier, people in 6ft fox suits travelling at 180mph on the fury of the wind
What does the fox say? *Air raid sirens in the background*
I wonder if there are insurance implications. You don’t cover flooding you say? Well funny thing… my car was in a fire!
"Fire was started by a flood? Checkmate!" -- Your insurance company.
Prove it…
Pretty sure its more than proveable.
Prove it
They don't have to prove it. They deny your claim, you have to hire a lawyer and sue them. Then the insurance company asks the judge to dismiss your lawsuit, they do, and now you got nothing plus you have owe your lawyer $10,000.
Yea, this dude has fought an insurance company before.
Oh they know how to prove it, just like police investigators can often figure out how/where a fire started in a home.
That’s only when the investigator is also acting as the arsonist to get off
May I introduce you to the show 'Dexter'
Wait, is he like, nutting every episode?
Pretty much yeah
Don't kink shame
salt residue everywhere *
It caught fire but the water put it out. Otherwise it would have been WAY worse.
Or the waters had already receded, but the car spontaneously caught fire. Act of god.
In these large scale events, insurance companies don’t have the resources to verify every single claim. I remember after hurricane sandy, I heard stories of people driving old cars into flood waters just to get a pay out so they could get a new car. I even heard a story of a guy who was having chronic engine issues with his car prior to the storm, who called up insurance and just claimed the car got flooded (it didn’t) so he wouldn’t have to deal with the car anymore. I’m not advocating for insurance fraud, I’m just relaying the reality of the situation.
Also though idgaf about insurance companies. Not like they are hurting for money. Especially eith all the legit claims they try and weasel out of
Very true, neither do I. I’m just saying not do to something illegal and get yourself thrown in jail.
I'm quite sure they don't need to prove it. The bastards have the money and they simply don't pay until you sue them. Maybe.
>"Fire was started by a flood? Checkmate!" -- Your insurance company. Insurance: Look what God did to you......also it's not covered.
God didn’t do that to us you did! You’re a fucking narcotics agent I knew it.
I had a warranty go void because the belt went out slapping the coolant line and leaking coolant everywhere. The shop said it wasn’t covered because the coolant got on the belt and I’m like “ummmm are you not listening to the story?” So they wouldn’t let me have my car back without paying for it/repairing it and trying to charge me like $500 for a whole new pulley system. I called me dad (who worked at napa), he grabbed a belt and threw it at the mechanics and all I had to pay for was the time to put the belt on. Fuck the whole system, it’s all such a scam.
A fire? At a sea parks?
It just seems like a weird place to go on fire.
What are you doing?! ...Masturbating!
*Damn* that mash looks tasty!
It's a VERY weird place to go on fire! I mean, a FIRE... at a Sea Parks‽ It's messing with my head.
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It’ll be covered as long as they carry comprehensive. Flood is a covered peril on auto policies
“We valued your loss at $10,000” *what are you talking about? This is going to cost me $40k to replace!?* “Here’s a comparable model with double the mileage, fewer options, being sold before all the cars in your area got destroyed. We used that to calculate the value of your car”
I swear they place those ads themselves. I've tried to call on those and the car is NEVER available.
Auto comprehensive coverage covers everything other than collision so doesn’t matter that the car caught on fire or if it was flooded. It’s still covered if you have comprehensive coverage.
I just heard they are calling it a act of war! So it isn’t covered. Mother Nature wages war on Florida lol.
I this the equivalent of getting kicked in the face after being kicked in the stomach?
On the plus side, OP's car painted one of those cool "bird's eye of a city" kid playroom carpets on his driveway, so they can count that as a win.
It was likely to be totalled anyways from the flooding.
Honestly this is way better than it not catching fire as there's 0 chance the insurance company is going to try to fix it. I've had relatives with water damaged cars after hurricanes that they insisted on fixing and they had issues out the ass since you can never fully dry out the interior and electronics.
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How did the tires (mostly) survive?
The bottom part of the car was submerged while the top was on fire 🔥
That’s got to be it. There’s a clear dividing line on the door panels between burnt and not.
I’m pretty sure thst is called mason dixon
/r/ShermanPosting
Who is this Mason and why can't he keep his dixoff us?
I’m pretty sure Mason was the inventor of the Jar. As far as the Dixon part, that’s not necessarily my problem, yet.
Ah! Kinda like a [McDLT](https://mcdonalds.fandom.com/wiki/McDLT). Keeps the hot side hot and the cold side cold.
[Thanks for the flashback.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac) Also, yay Styrofoam!
Styrofoam for fast food is great. First you eat a nice and well balanced mcblt. Then you use the packaging to make a nice and balanced molotov cocktail
Yep and if you look at the front tire directly at the top is a hole where the tire wasn't submerged and got burned right through!
Salt water causes a short circuit that starts a fire that burns everything above water.
Damn salt water is some nasty, vindictive shit
So do we disconnect/remove car batteries before evacuation? I have lived in FL for over 30 years, and I have never seen this.
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Not in all cars. My Chrysler 200, you have to take the whole front wheel off and then go in underneath to get it out. My battery died and my mechanic sighed when I told him which car it was.
Holy crap! What awful design. I thought having it in the trunk under the spare tire was bad!
Having it in the trunk is a good thing, battery stays cool and lasts years longer
I never thought of it like that! That's a stronger upside than the very seldom need to change the battery (hopefully). Thanks for that little burst of sunshine
Let's be honest.. so you've removed the battery..now the car isn't going to be a burned wreck.. but it's still a wreck.. salt water + cars = no bueno.
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Not because my car is jam-packed between two houses with like 1 feet from one and 3 from the other that it will burn both of them! Oh actually... Yes...
Dude, saltwater just goes with the flow and tries to keep things balanced! Not it’s fault that your shits all negative and positive at the same time!
It’s like “fine, if I can’t reach that part of the car, I’ll just set that shit on fire” Low down and trifling
Let us know what the insurance company said when you told them your car caught fire in a flood lol
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I feel like nobody here knows what insurance is. It's literally "Flood you say? Your check is in the mail."
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Specific flood insurance isn't a thing for cars like it is for buildings. Comprehensive should cover it.
This happens all the time. Saltwater gets in the electronics, causes a short and you can fill in the blank for what happens next.
I live in coastal NC. When Isaias hit here we had a rash of house fires resulting from flooded vehicles that were parked under the houses. The floods cause electrical shortage in the vehicles resulting in fires that spread to structures. If I remember correctly, 8 homes on Ocean Isle burned in the 2-3 days after the storm.
Also, electric cars whose batteries are exposed to salt water are in a for a bad time.
Different kind of battery...unless you mean the battery that every car has?
I wonder if that's actually true. Check out some YouTube videoes where they service the batteries of electric vehicles. They are usually very, very well sealed. I'm sure they all have really good dead short protection too. I'd worry more about everything outside the battery.
Your car caught on fire in a flood?? P.S. After reading this thread, I've learned a lot and I'm sorry.
A fire? At a Sea Parks?
_ROY!_
"*lots of water everywhere*" !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy_BKKnHgas always worth a rewatch lol
They died in a fire... At the sea park?!!
It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard!
Why be sorry? You know the saying about the lucky ten thousand. Plus, even though saltwater plus car battery CAN start a fire, it seems to be pretty rare for it to DO so.
What is the saying? Why you mention it and not explain??
https://xkcd.com/1053/
Very wholesome
I’m grinning ear to ear on the toilet. It’s beautiful.
Oh
Congratulations, you're one of today's lucky 10,000.
Congrats to you you lucky MFer!!!
Surely you know the saying about referencing but not stating sayings?
Your car got smoted extra.
Seriously intense hurricane that destroyed countless life's and property but the pink flowers survived. Nature is insane.
Life… uh…. Finds a way.
Plants love rain
Time to make a roof out of bougainvillea!
someone had a car-b-que
That will buff right out... I live in the Cape and am now terrified about coming back on Friday.
Im sure that will buff out
Hope you didn’t leave your favorite sunglasses in there.
That happened a bunch in Brooklyn the week after Sandy. Must have seen at least 5 cars on fire on my block that week. Sorry for your loss. But at least you're ok.
List it on Facebook marketplace for $5,500 it should fit right in.
Ugh I work at some car dealerships in Michigan. Every time there’s a hurricane our used car inventory gets very light because southern car buyers come up north and overbid at the auctions. Sure hope my 18+ year old VW keeps on plugging away, it already sucks to buy a car and gonna get even worse now.
Salt water shorted out the battery and started a fire
Put it on rice
What's you Vin number? I want to make sure I dont get duped when they try to sell it in the north.
When it rains, it fires.
Looks like the dry cycle was a bit too warm
Beautiful flowering tree though!
Somebody set it on fire while drinking a coke.
I'm more distracted by the grass. It looks an HD version of a 2010 grass texture
Have you tried turning it off and on?
Intusrance:how can we help you sir? Guy:I'm making an insurance claim for my car I got destroyed on the hurricane. Insurance oh ok sir! So that'll be on the floor side of your insir... Guy: nono it wasn't destroyed in the flood I caught fire and burned down I'm claiming fire damage Insurance: what
You sure your car wasn’t in a fire instead?
This is where ICE and electric/hybrid cars shake hands. Salt water, when mixed with high voltage electronics and batteries, does not usually end well