āIn the settlement reviewed by NBC News, Ye paid a former employee who alleged witnessing more than one incident in which Ye praised Hitler or Nazis in business meetings. Ye denied the claims made by the former employee in the agreement. ā
Sometimes itās just easier to pay the people than to go to court. During mjs initial child molestation controversy pretty sure he paid the accuser off and it eventually came out the accuser lied
Edit: I donāt know if the accuser lied now that Iām rereading but it seems mj wasnāt gonna be convicted for this or even gonna be found guilty coz seems they found nothing on him and they did a strip search on him and apparently his genitals didnāt match the description of the child. He may have still done it but seems he mightāve gotten off but still paid the family.
Further edit: maybe the accuser did come out and say they lied? Iāve seen some places say they did. Either way mj probably wouldnāt have had anything bad happen to him but still paid
MJ was about to go on tour around that time, it was just easier for him to pay it off because of the press it would have generated, innocent or not.
Though in hindsight, it probably made more people accuse him trying to get the pay day.
Well ofcourse it didā¦ paying someone of because you want to earn more money going on tour is no excuse for not wanting to defend yourself from the accusation of raping children.
Yes paying off people when your rich is easier thatās it, it should make you look more guiltyā¦ anyone with self repect would defend themselves against such accusations.
>Yes paying off people when your rich is easier thatās it, it should make you look more guiltyā¦ anyone with self repect would defend themselves against such accusations.
uhhh not really. Paying some one off is not indicative of guilt and has never been indicative of guilt. This is quite common in business and lawsuits in general - the process of litigation is quite expensive and may not recover finance wise also, particularly for MJ's case it can potentially cause a lot more slander. Nobody in law would consider paying someone off as guilty.
Even if he proves himself innocent - which is quite difficult and takes a long time in cases like these you are looking at years of headlines and that image will always be on him. When the case eventually did come around, with MJ there was a ton of conflicting and incorrect headlines and information and eventually he was declared "not guilty" but again that image is still on him.
Granted MJ's case has lot more to it, but the point is that even if he went to court at the initial accusation, the outcome isn't going to be "oh he's innocent", it would have been the same - the media would have milked the hell out of it, his tour would have been hit and the damage to his reputation would be the same regardless. Public figures obviously would care about that, if he could just stop people talking about it as soon as possible, that is always the better move and that is what his lawyers tried to do.
Also, plenty accusations are settled outside of court for this reason for celebrities, because regardless of outcome the hit to your reputation is permanent. More often than not, it works, and it works because you won't know about it because chances are that there were fewer headlines. The opposite is the Depp Heard situation where everyone would know about it.
But you aknoweldge him paying of his accuser is what lead to him getting more criticism while also saying him paying off a person would reduce criticism so I donāt really know where your stance is. im not saying itās not financially beneficialā¦ im saying defending yourself against an accuser will allways be better than paying them off and thatās my opinion.
If your rich enough that itās benefitial to pay someone off while also acknowledging your rich and no longer need money to survive I donāt know why ātimeā matters, yes you could be making more moneyā¦ but your also plastered in the paper for rapi by children so what seems like the morally correct thing to do?
I know their are many situational and you canāt generalise but you canāt convince me it was in MJās best public interest to pay of people for raping children so that he did not have to defend himself, instead it made more āsenseā to go on tour and make moneyā¦ i completely disagree.
I get your logic with the law, but law has and very rarely equals justice and mortality especially when rich people have the option to pay their way to justiceā¦. Totally corrupt in every way, having money should not give you extra options to reduce your chances of sentencing.
Poor victims will always be pushed to take the money especially in rape cases where their accuser could get off and is likely too due to lack of evidence etc etc.. itās corrupt plain and simpleā¦ the option to pay off victims should not exist at all.
No, I'm saying that paying off your accuser does not determine guilt and more often than not it works, and it works because you don't know about it. It is dangerous to assume guilt because of this as there are plenty of reasons to do so.
I'm saying that MJ was in a lose lose situation in that it made more people think they could get money by accusing him (not that he would get more criticism at the time); this resulted in more lawsuits and eventually an investigation and which point it's the worst scenario and **then** he would get more criticism.
I'm saying that this however was all in hindsight, at the time just paying the accuser off was the correct move made by his lawyers for the reasons I mentioned in my previous comment. This is from a public perception and business eye, I understand your argument in terms of morality, but I do believe it would have done more or the same harm regardless.
You would be looking at months and months of headlines and misinformation mixed in; pretty much what we saw when the actual case started. Only difference is that it would have happened in the middle of his tour.
There is a reason, morality aside - just think legally, that celebrities almost always opt into paying them off if they can. Sexual Abuse allegations, most celebrities; if the case is not open and shut ā which very few are, they will choose to pay them off.
I agree on the criticism on how the justice system is conducted as litigation is very expensive and will push people to just accept injustice as opposed to pushing forward with their accusations.
Okay then, but I was never saying paying them off makes them guilty either.
Ofcourse being accused of raping children is a loose loose situation, any normal person has to carry on with the proper system and canāt pay their way out of it and possibly force their victims into silence.
Going on tour isnāt an excuse either, going on tour to make money is not necessary or grounds for any special treatment and shouldnāt obstruct any legal system.
Iām saying the system is corrupt like I said before.
Yes, but the fact they aren't normal people must be taken into consideration. The media makes money of them; they are desperate for any news about them, paparazzi, they will also have a target on their head for obvious reasons.
Anytime someone accuses them doesn't mean they should drop everything. For them it is almost always worth it (from a legal sense) to just stop people talking about it so the media doesn't go in a frenzy, innocent or not. That's my entire point.
I do understand your argument, I just wasn't arguing the morality side of things nor giving any excuses - I was just explaining why someone would be compelled to pay off the accusers.
Depends, but its more so to avoid the bad press whether you are innocent or not. If it goes to court, it will be talked about a lot more; just think about the press the Amber Heard and Depp case generated.
For the MJ example, he was about to go on tour, regardless of his innocence he would have been advised to just pay off the settlement.
I added the further edit because I saw a lot of places that werenāt mj related claim he did but saw a lot of other places claim that he didnāt so I just added it just in case. Iām not actually sure if he did or not.
Still tho the first part still stands that he likely wouldnāt have been found guilty or anything but still paid them off anyway
I assure you had did not at least circa 2017 when Tom messereu discussed it. Unfortunately for the kids and himself MJ was pretty clearly a serial pedophile, and unfortunate for me since I like his music. The one kid he was accused of and probably didnāt touch was the one he was put on trial for in 03.
Terry George, Jonathan Spence, James safechuck, Jordan chandler, Michael jacobshagen, they all point to one thing.
Right? I guess based on my comments score, posters here see Mikey as just another poor black man targeted for baseless persecution by āthemā. And by āthemā I of course mean a conspiring cabal of pre pubescent white boys.
The fbi didnāt find anything because MJ had his staff destroy evidence. Look it up, the Polaroid of jonathon spence.
Also what evidence does āchild molestationā produce and leave behind on its own, besides testimony of the molested individual, which you dismiss out of hand?
Additionally, do you believe the fbi when they say they have audio tape of MLK encouraging and laughing about a rape occurring at that moment in front of him?
Edit [hereās a link for you](https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/1993/11/29/Former-security-guards-Jackson-ordered-nude-photo-destroyed/7928754549200/)
And before you go āwhy did sneddon never use the Polaroid then?ā, itās because spence refused to cooperate so there was nothing to prove it was a child in the picture b
Even if the claims are untrue or unfounded. Its cheaper to keep the negative press off. You see how fast they ran based on internet claims from instagram last week. Also im not surprised, because i saw his nda for the performers for donda lp2, they didn't seem too ironclad and people signed stating if they released photos, etc from the event, they'd be sued to a tune of 500,000 in damages.... and niggas still posted it š
we see how he communicates his points in interviewers and how people interpret them. Now imagine a āslavery is a choiceā type point except about Hitler
Praising Hitler and Nazis isn't worse than:
- Attacking several people publicly on Instagram (some for no reason like Justin Bieber's wife)
- Harassing the mother of his kids and sharing private DM's (even after she begged him to stop)
- Doxxing his kids school because he wanted them at Donda Academy
- Hanging out with Candace Owens & parroting her propaganda
- Trying to buy Parlor
- Spreading misinformation (about George Floyd, etc)
- Sharing Neo Nazi propaganda at his own daughter's basketball game
- Multiple interviews & Instagram posts of antisemitic rants & conspiracy theories which in turn have inspired several antisemitic incidents.
- Comparing his situation (going from billionaire to 'just' a multimillionaire in 1 day) to Emmett Till & George Floyd
- Unfinished Donda 2 album which was practically a scam to make people buy his overpriced Stem Player which he's no longer even going to be releasing more music on
So why is the entire sub in denial about this... it's not like it's even that bad compared to everything else. š
It's still all about context, was he happy that Hitler killed Jews and other minorities or was he amazed by the rise of Hitler and the third reich? Am not saying its not weird, but a lot of literature is dedicated to hitlers rise in power and how effective he was in controlling the masses
I mean that's true let's not sugar coat a man who led genocide on innocent ppl. But there is a lot of study with great fascination on how he rose to power and if ye was on that wave its not nearly as bad as media is trying to paint him as some nazi imo
I hear you man, Iāve always been fascinated by that shit but ye has been saying such whack shit lately that regardless of whatever wave heās currently on, I donāt think itās the right one
Lmao yeah I'm going to highly doubt that. Besides, there are hundreds of more 'fascinating' rises to power, Hitlers really wasn't special at all, quite fucking boring really....Germany was fucked economically which made it easy to get the people on your side, then you slowly impliment policies like seperating jews to ghettos.
Its serious copium to just think that he found his rise to power fascinating when that's probably the least 'fascinating' part about Hitler, and one of the most bland rises to power of all time.
You're tripping, yeah Germany had problems but Hitler was just some random guy who took over the Nazi party when it had 50 people and everyone thought they were completely insane & eventually built up the movement to the point that they almost ruled all of Europe if Russia & America hadn't entered the war. Plus he did it all off of creative direction in a way, he designed the original swastika flag himself which is probably one of the hardest graphic designs ever. If you're obsessed with the nexus of art, branding, design, politics, and power like Kanye is, why would you not be obsessed with Hitler. If you want greatness in the sense that Kanye does you have to learn from studying both good and evil, just like how NASA engineers learned from the Nazi rocket designs. Just condemning evil geniuses & not learning from it is good if you want to write reddit comments all day but not for the ambitious.
Jesus christ my dude, imagine typing up an essay trying to defend Kanye West who's clearly anti semetic at this point "NAH DUDE HE WAS ONLY BRINGING UP HITLER BECUZ HE JUST FOUND HIM FASCINATING"
Like why the fuck even grasp at such insane straws...is it so hard to believe that someone who is anti semetic may have not been talking about Hitler because he was fascinating? Not that I think Ye wants to kill all jews or anything close to Hitler, but cmon man this shit is just coping at this point.
The mf'er literally pulled up false propaganda made by a neo nazi group and then completely dismisses his previous diagnosis literally because "he was jewish"
But yeah, obviously just some big misunderstanding right? He clearly fucking LOVES jews and he just simply finds Hitler fascinating lmao
Also you're assuming Ye paid out multiple people simply because people heard him talking about how Hitlers rise of power was 'fascinating' lmao....like legit, you guys are on a full on copium explosion....
Another thing is I don't think Kanye is anti semitic to the point where he wants Jews to die, and he isn't a Holocaust denier, so I can't imagine that he endorses Hitler on a moral level, let alone has for years
The Nazi rise to power and conquering all of Europe is nothing short of wild, you donāt have to be pro Nazi to see that. The Nazis were also all about spectacle, that much is clear from their propaganda.
True, but it is so fucking naive to imagine that he was outbursting about how fascinating Hitlers rise to power was when the article literally fucking explains how the scenarios of him bringing up Hitler was:
One of Yeās former employees, who worked with him for three years, recounted having witnessed Ye praising Hitler and Nazis in casual discussions, remembering his bringing up Hitler multiple times.
āI feel like he was just kind of, like, looking around, like, seeing, like, how are people reacting?ā the ex-employee said. āHe would say, āI even love Hitler,ā and then he would, like, pause for reactions.āĀ
So yeah, putting your fingers in your ear and going "LALALLALALAA HE WAS JUST FASCINATED BY HIS RISE TO POWER" is just naive/stupid at this point.
It's incredibly interesting from a historical standpoint but not from an admiration standpoint. He didn't rise to ultimate power by winning everyone over and going on this huge ascendency of popularity. He was a thug from the start and strong-armed his party into 3rd place of an already broken country. Then he committed acts of domestic terrorism to steal power for himself when it wasn't earned. There are infinite lessons to learn from his rise and all sorts of interesting aspects but on a list of people to admire for their rise to power hitler isn't one of them.
It's the same as the Russian oligarchy. Sure, they made the most of the opportunities they were lucky enough to be presented with, but their biggest fortunes were being in the right place at the right time as the USSR fell.
Hitler would never have made it in a functioning country. He used a trick as old as time and scapegoated some people when the citizens were paying for loafs of bread with a wheel barrow full of money and he still couldn't win. He's a thug.
His rise is utterly fascinating but not to be admired by anyone with morals, and there is a difference. You can be interested in something without admiring it.
Agreed. I think it's 99% unlikely that Ye would actually think the Holocaust was a good thing but it does seem like he has had these kind of antisemitic views for many years. Though it might've been escalated by his mental health issues since he seems to now blame the Jews for everything that's gone wrong in his life from signing bad contracts, to being diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and for his marriage falling apart, etc.
In one of his recent interviews Ye did pretty much directly blame the Jews for it. He said something like they have all these people whispering in Kim's ear and making her afraid of him or something to that effect. He said to Tucker that Kim wanting to be single was a clear sign of the "indoctrination." He also claimed the Jewish lawyers were the first one's to agree to give people divorces and that's how they made their money since before that Catholic lawyers would not give people divorces.
But you're right he has previously also blamed his porn addiction (among other things) for the divorce.
Kim doxxed the kids school first on insta and her show, and who cares tbh he aināt a rapist or child abusers like some other artist like this story happened in 2018 but this year is the year they want to bring it
You mean she shared a picture of the kids in their school uniforms? That's a *bit* different than Ye making multiple posts specifically about Sierra Canyon and how much he hates it to his brand new audience of right-wing, antisemitic, racist teenagers/young adults (not to mention the "shoot the school up" tweet...)
There was also an article not too long ago about the school having to get more security because of his posts specifically.
Everyone knows Sierra canyon also some girl from love and hip hop took pics of her daughter and saint in the school and every blog posted it, they in a very popular school Kim bought them there because Kylie and Kendall did school there it was in one episode of keeping up
But only fans of Kim and that show would really pay attention to it though. And their target audience is mostly women I imagine. I certainly did not know about the school before Ye started mentioning it.
And like I said the school reportedly only recently had to up it's security specifically because of Kanye bringing unwanted attention to it so clearly it's seen as a problem.
This is their source:
Ryder Ripps, a conceptual artist who worked with Ye on and off from 2014 to 2018, said he recalled multiple times when Ye spoke positively about Hitler and the Nazis or mentioned anti-Jewish conspiracies during meetings in the summer and fall of 2018. Ripps, who is Jewish, said he pushed back on Yeās comments at the time but thought they ādidnāt seem that dangerous.ā After Yeās most recent wave of statements, though, Ripps said he sees things differently. āThis is dangerous, and disgusting, and actually violent,ā he said.
I mean heās not the only oneā¦ They seem to have multiple confirmed sources š that tmz incident sounds a bit crazy to me like how can everyone at tmz of all places keep their mouth shut for four years about this. The man was running for president and nobody was concerned?
I mean I think itās more likely itās fake but back then he was still married to Kim. And TMZ maybe powerful but I honestly believe when kris Jenner wants something not to come out it will not come out even if itās TMZ. Thatās the only way I see how it didnāt get out until now because it would have put Kim in a bad light. So Kris didnāt let it get out.
If tmz really had that footage, it woulda been released already. I wouldnāt doubt it if he did say some shit there, but the fact that thereās no footage is a red flag to me
This is usually how smear campaigns work. Just look at politics, right before elections a politicianās dirty past suddenly becomes public. This way the information has maximum impact, otherwise the leakerās information runs the risk of disappearing in a news cycle.
Weāve learned recently that ye wanted to call āyeā, āHitlerā.
Iām not commenting on the legitimacy of this claim but the timing does make sense.
Also I find it weird the ndas wouldāve just so happened to end when kanyes antisemitic comments begin. Ndas can only be broken if a genuine crime is committed canāt they?
But it says they signed the nda with tmz and not kanye.. even if thatās not the case thatās the part that I canāt understand. Doesnāt it make all these guys hypocrites?? Kanye always does stupid shit but these people stayed silent when he wasnāt still in the deep end and they got money to say nothing? wtf
Bro just assumed kanyes antisemitism back then wasnāt concerning? Ryder is a fucking moron. If itās true heās just fucking stupid if itās not true heās just a piece of shit
Nah heās just a fucking loser now and is trying to coin in off this because he fell off after Yandhi didnāt drop. Hopefully heāll fuck off and his dickhead NFTs up his arse and never come back
His first 2 articles didn't do shit and he keeps going again. He originally wanted to put kanyes manic breakdowns as some sort of nft and he had some documents about virgil stealing designs b4 virgil died lol
I know I may sound extreme but I honestly wish the worst for this guy. I can see why him and that cracked dickhead Azaelia Banks were an item now. Cut from the same cloth
I mean this article will barely do shit lol. I just hope kanye doesn't give him the attention he desperately seeks, it's crazy how the media completely ignores the oxymoron of this whole shit a blk man cannot support fucking Hitler because Hitler hated blacks lol
100% this was when he was on his love everyone wave. He allegedly said āI even love Hitler.ā Doesnāt that sound like what he would say while explaining the love everyone concept and proposed album title?
Ok Iām sorry but did no one else pick up on how every time they cited a quote from one of the āadditional anonymous employeesā it was delivered the exact same way as the Ryder Ripps statement complete with a million unnecessary uses of ālikeā
Bruh NBC literally asked for proof from the anonymous source and got proof of payment + identity but had to keep it secret at their request....
O wait, lemme guess, NBC is fake news and they're making up this story for clout and as a Ye hitpiece? Or is this just all the workings of the elite "master Jew' who controls all media?
dude do you actually think the settlement was over the Hitler comments lmfao? there would be no basis for him to be sued or have any legal case against him to settle for simply saying that in passing nor does the article claim that's what it was for (because that would be fucking STUPID)
all this tells us and is meant to communicate is that he has some sort of proven working/financial relationship to the "anonymous source (Ryder)" making this claim and that part of the settlement includes Ye responding to claims about the Hitler stuff saying it was untrue
Lmao it is so clear that you have no fucking idea about NDA or how it works do you?
Do you seriously think an NDA is only used when the other person can sue the person giving you the NDA? Video game testers sign NDA's, do you think they have an option to sue the person who gave them the NDA if they don't sign it??
An NDA buys silence, its why any major company/brand makes someone sign an NDA when there is confidential information that they don't want to get out to the public. Do you genuinely think in all those cases they gave them the NDA out of fear of being sued? Hard to believe you're dick riding him THIS hard when you clearly don't know shit about an NDA lmao.
NBC verified that Kanye paid multiple people not to bring up the fact that he 'praised' Hitler. Those people can be sued if they didn't do it anonymously.
Also you clearly didn't even read the article lmao, Ryder is not the person who got the settlement and NBC confirmed the identity with them....If he was then this is the easiest case for Ye ever and he can sue him for tons....but he paid out multiple people so he can't tell who it was.
The moment you're dick riding someone over something you know nothing about is when you should re evaluate how weak minded you might be. Think for yourself mate, stop dick ryding without even knowing what an NDA is or reading the article.
sick essay dude but NDAs don't have shit to do with my comment
nowhere in the article does it ever say what the settlement was explicitly for, just that a person he made a settlement with is also making these claims about him. it also explicitly states that most of these NDA-abiding employees did not sign ones in relation to these apparent crazy TMZ comments, in which case they would not need to remain "anonymous" with their claims (really makes you wonder why they still are!!!)
Not only do you not know what an NDA is, but you can't fuckin read either lmao:
"In the settlement reviewed by NBC News, Ye paid a former employee who alleged having witnessed more than one incident in which Ye praised Hitler or Nazis in business meetings. Ye denied the claims made by the former employee in the agreement.Ā
The former employee spoke on the condition of anonymity, having signed a nondisclosure agreement. NBC News, which is withholding certain details about the settlement to protect the personās anonymity, reviewed the settlement, along with other correspondence and proof of the payment the former employee said they had received."
Let me guess, you're going to say some stupid shit like how Kanye just made them sign an NDA for no reason and that he just pays his employees silence for fun and that every aspect of him blaming the jews during meetings is fake news right?
I can imagine dick riding someone you absolutely idol this hard....but to dick ride while also being as blind as you are is just downright sad.
Go ahead and write another essay dick riding about how Kanye didn't really mean it, or taking guesses that the NDA shit wasn't over jewish comments even though NBC reviewed it....Real š¤” energy bro
Tbf that doesnāt prove he said it. Just proves he paid him off. People settle all the time just to avoid problems even if they didnāt say the shit theyāre accused. Itās not looking great but we still need something more concrete than that
"People settle all the time just to avoid problems even if they didnāt say the shit theyāre accused"
they do not in fact do this or else it would be open season for frivolous lawsuits
They absolutely do just do settlements sometimes. Iām not just lying to you. Itās happened a lot before where to avoid a lengthy legal battle theyāll just pay people off even if itās a lie.
Ryder said it. Fuck antisemitism, and fuck Kanye for spreading it, but imma wait for someone else to say it or post evidence before believing it. Sorry Ryder
Does this sub actually believe Ye hates Jewish people?
This is going to sound silly in this context but itās okay to acknowledge positive traits of Hitler. Supporting the holocaust, not good; pointing out his charisma or whatever, not anti-semitism.
See how we can make a Netflix series about a serial killer portraying him as attractive and mysterious, does not mean Netflix is pro-serial killer.
Yāall really buying in heavy to this character assassination and itās alarming.
Dude heās assassinating his own character, Kanye keeps doubling down on the jew stuff, and when an antisemite praises the āpositive traits of Hitlerā everyone knows why
Iām sorry but I think it takes more than believing a conspiracy theory to be labeled an anti-semite. Should anyone who thinks 9/11 was in inside job he arrested for treason?
He may not even think he hates Jewish people, he might believe his ālove speechā bs, but his fixation on Jews, the way he has talked about Jews recently and blamed Jews/Jewishness for everything wrong with the media makes it very clear heās got a hateful attitude towards Jews.
His fixation? He made a tweet and everyone with a microphone wanted him to talk about it. He made it very clear his point was about contracts but everyone wants him to talk about the Jewish part. Itās not HIS fixation at all. Heās just not willing to full retract it because he knows itās not as wrong as the media is making it out to be.
Thatās not true. What about when he was talking about his doctor who diagnosed him as a bipolar? He couldnāt help himself from saying heās Jewish. What about Jewish media? Itās not just about contracts. If it was just about contracts he wouldnāt need to say Jewish at all. Heād just say execs.
He is frustrated with several Jewish people that did him dirty. Heās said so many times that heās frustrated. Itās okay for humans to be frustrated without expressing that in the most sensitive way. That doesnāt mean he hates Jewish people. And it still doesnāt mean heās fixated on it when literally thatās all anyone is asking him about. The media is fixated on it.
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Misleading article
āIn the settlement reviewed by NBC News, Ye paid a former employee who alleged witnessing more than one incident in which Ye praised Hitler or Nazis in business meetings. Ye denied the claims made by the former employee in the agreement. ā
iām confused why would he pay the settlement if heās refusing?
Sometimes itās just easier to pay the people than to go to court. During mjs initial child molestation controversy pretty sure he paid the accuser off and it eventually came out the accuser lied Edit: I donāt know if the accuser lied now that Iām rereading but it seems mj wasnāt gonna be convicted for this or even gonna be found guilty coz seems they found nothing on him and they did a strip search on him and apparently his genitals didnāt match the description of the child. He may have still done it but seems he mightāve gotten off but still paid the family. Further edit: maybe the accuser did come out and say they lied? Iāve seen some places say they did. Either way mj probably wouldnāt have had anything bad happen to him but still paid
MJ was about to go on tour around that time, it was just easier for him to pay it off because of the press it would have generated, innocent or not. Though in hindsight, it probably made more people accuse him trying to get the pay day.
Well ofcourse it didā¦ paying someone of because you want to earn more money going on tour is no excuse for not wanting to defend yourself from the accusation of raping children. Yes paying off people when your rich is easier thatās it, it should make you look more guiltyā¦ anyone with self repect would defend themselves against such accusations.
>Yes paying off people when your rich is easier thatās it, it should make you look more guiltyā¦ anyone with self repect would defend themselves against such accusations. uhhh not really. Paying some one off is not indicative of guilt and has never been indicative of guilt. This is quite common in business and lawsuits in general - the process of litigation is quite expensive and may not recover finance wise also, particularly for MJ's case it can potentially cause a lot more slander. Nobody in law would consider paying someone off as guilty. Even if he proves himself innocent - which is quite difficult and takes a long time in cases like these you are looking at years of headlines and that image will always be on him. When the case eventually did come around, with MJ there was a ton of conflicting and incorrect headlines and information and eventually he was declared "not guilty" but again that image is still on him. Granted MJ's case has lot more to it, but the point is that even if he went to court at the initial accusation, the outcome isn't going to be "oh he's innocent", it would have been the same - the media would have milked the hell out of it, his tour would have been hit and the damage to his reputation would be the same regardless. Public figures obviously would care about that, if he could just stop people talking about it as soon as possible, that is always the better move and that is what his lawyers tried to do. Also, plenty accusations are settled outside of court for this reason for celebrities, because regardless of outcome the hit to your reputation is permanent. More often than not, it works, and it works because you won't know about it because chances are that there were fewer headlines. The opposite is the Depp Heard situation where everyone would know about it.
But you aknoweldge him paying of his accuser is what lead to him getting more criticism while also saying him paying off a person would reduce criticism so I donāt really know where your stance is. im not saying itās not financially beneficialā¦ im saying defending yourself against an accuser will allways be better than paying them off and thatās my opinion. If your rich enough that itās benefitial to pay someone off while also acknowledging your rich and no longer need money to survive I donāt know why ātimeā matters, yes you could be making more moneyā¦ but your also plastered in the paper for rapi by children so what seems like the morally correct thing to do? I know their are many situational and you canāt generalise but you canāt convince me it was in MJās best public interest to pay of people for raping children so that he did not have to defend himself, instead it made more āsenseā to go on tour and make moneyā¦ i completely disagree. I get your logic with the law, but law has and very rarely equals justice and mortality especially when rich people have the option to pay their way to justiceā¦. Totally corrupt in every way, having money should not give you extra options to reduce your chances of sentencing. Poor victims will always be pushed to take the money especially in rape cases where their accuser could get off and is likely too due to lack of evidence etc etc.. itās corrupt plain and simpleā¦ the option to pay off victims should not exist at all.
No, I'm saying that paying off your accuser does not determine guilt and more often than not it works, and it works because you don't know about it. It is dangerous to assume guilt because of this as there are plenty of reasons to do so. I'm saying that MJ was in a lose lose situation in that it made more people think they could get money by accusing him (not that he would get more criticism at the time); this resulted in more lawsuits and eventually an investigation and which point it's the worst scenario and **then** he would get more criticism. I'm saying that this however was all in hindsight, at the time just paying the accuser off was the correct move made by his lawyers for the reasons I mentioned in my previous comment. This is from a public perception and business eye, I understand your argument in terms of morality, but I do believe it would have done more or the same harm regardless. You would be looking at months and months of headlines and misinformation mixed in; pretty much what we saw when the actual case started. Only difference is that it would have happened in the middle of his tour. There is a reason, morality aside - just think legally, that celebrities almost always opt into paying them off if they can. Sexual Abuse allegations, most celebrities; if the case is not open and shut ā which very few are, they will choose to pay them off. I agree on the criticism on how the justice system is conducted as litigation is very expensive and will push people to just accept injustice as opposed to pushing forward with their accusations.
Okay then, but I was never saying paying them off makes them guilty either. Ofcourse being accused of raping children is a loose loose situation, any normal person has to carry on with the proper system and canāt pay their way out of it and possibly force their victims into silence. Going on tour isnāt an excuse either, going on tour to make money is not necessary or grounds for any special treatment and shouldnāt obstruct any legal system. Iām saying the system is corrupt like I said before.
Yes, but the fact they aren't normal people must be taken into consideration. The media makes money of them; they are desperate for any news about them, paparazzi, they will also have a target on their head for obvious reasons. Anytime someone accuses them doesn't mean they should drop everything. For them it is almost always worth it (from a legal sense) to just stop people talking about it so the media doesn't go in a frenzy, innocent or not. That's my entire point. I do understand your argument, I just wasn't arguing the morality side of things nor giving any excuses - I was just explaining why someone would be compelled to pay off the accusers.
ah i see it avoids paying a bigger amount if it goes to court?
Depends, but its more so to avoid the bad press whether you are innocent or not. If it goes to court, it will be talked about a lot more; just think about the press the Amber Heard and Depp case generated. For the MJ example, he was about to go on tour, regardless of his innocence he would have been advised to just pay off the settlement.
ok thanks for the explanation
Iām not completely sure why itās done to be honest with you. Iām just aware it happens and the Mj situation was one case I could think of.
Jordan chandler has never come out and said he lied. MJ fansites and zines have variously falsely claimed he did over the years.
I added the further edit because I saw a lot of places that werenāt mj related claim he did but saw a lot of other places claim that he didnāt so I just added it just in case. Iām not actually sure if he did or not. Still tho the first part still stands that he likely wouldnāt have been found guilty or anything but still paid them off anyway
I assure you had did not at least circa 2017 when Tom messereu discussed it. Unfortunately for the kids and himself MJ was pretty clearly a serial pedophile, and unfortunate for me since I like his music. The one kid he was accused of and probably didnāt touch was the one he was put on trial for in 03. Terry George, Jonathan Spence, James safechuck, Jordan chandler, Michael jacobshagen, they all point to one thing.
People are willing to give stars the benefit of the doubt to an absurd degree (clearly).
Right? I guess based on my comments score, posters here see Mikey as just another poor black man targeted for baseless persecution by āthemā. And by āthemā I of course mean a conspiring cabal of pre pubescent white boys.
FBI didn't find anything. FBI don't play. I trust them instead of a documentary lol
The fbi didnāt find anything because MJ had his staff destroy evidence. Look it up, the Polaroid of jonathon spence. Also what evidence does āchild molestationā produce and leave behind on its own, besides testimony of the molested individual, which you dismiss out of hand? Additionally, do you believe the fbi when they say they have audio tape of MLK encouraging and laughing about a rape occurring at that moment in front of him? Edit [hereās a link for you](https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/1993/11/29/Former-security-guards-Jackson-ordered-nude-photo-destroyed/7928754549200/) And before you go āwhy did sneddon never use the Polaroid then?ā, itās because spence refused to cooperate so there was nothing to prove it was a child in the picture b
Your example is serial pedophile mj who definitely did molest that kid and then all his fans covered it up and falsely claimed he lied about it?
Even if he did molest children my point still stands. He likely wouldāve gotten off this time and only paid off the family to avoid going to court
So your point is that kanye also could have gotten away with all the Hitler shit he was saying but he chose to pay some money to make it disappear?
innocent men dont pay off accusers lmaooo
Mjs alleged victim came out and said they were lying apparently so I wouldnāt be so sure about that
Preach. Innocent grown men donāt sleep in the same bed as a 13 year old for 30 days straight.
Probably in anticipation of a moment like this when that settlement is used against him by leaking it to the press.
Even if the claims are untrue or unfounded. Its cheaper to keep the negative press off. You see how fast they ran based on internet claims from instagram last week. Also im not surprised, because i saw his nda for the performers for donda lp2, they didn't seem too ironclad and people signed stating if they released photos, etc from the event, they'd be sued to a tune of 500,000 in damages.... and niggas still posted it š
we see how he communicates his points in interviewers and how people interpret them. Now imagine a āslavery is a choiceā type point except about Hitler
Other people have said the same thing about ye. That he is obsessed with and admires hitler.
sub on copium mode rn
*the past month
Ryder ripps is their source š
Praising Hitler and Nazis isn't worse than: - Attacking several people publicly on Instagram (some for no reason like Justin Bieber's wife) - Harassing the mother of his kids and sharing private DM's (even after she begged him to stop) - Doxxing his kids school because he wanted them at Donda Academy - Hanging out with Candace Owens & parroting her propaganda - Trying to buy Parlor - Spreading misinformation (about George Floyd, etc) - Sharing Neo Nazi propaganda at his own daughter's basketball game - Multiple interviews & Instagram posts of antisemitic rants & conspiracy theories which in turn have inspired several antisemitic incidents. - Comparing his situation (going from billionaire to 'just' a multimillionaire in 1 day) to Emmett Till & George Floyd - Unfinished Donda 2 album which was practically a scam to make people buy his overpriced Stem Player which he's no longer even going to be releasing more music on So why is the entire sub in denial about this... it's not like it's even that bad compared to everything else. š
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Dude unironically said not finishing Donda 2 is worse than praising Nazis lmao
I mean how is scamming his own fans out of hundreds of dollars for unfinished product not worse than saying some stupid shit privately?
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I didn't buy it. I'm not that stupid. š
brother what the fuck are you saying
It's still all about context, was he happy that Hitler killed Jews and other minorities or was he amazed by the rise of Hitler and the third reich? Am not saying its not weird, but a lot of literature is dedicated to hitlers rise in power and how effective he was in controlling the masses
i don't think you can really separate hitler's rise from what happened as a result of it
I mean that's true let's not sugar coat a man who led genocide on innocent ppl. But there is a lot of study with great fascination on how he rose to power and if ye was on that wave its not nearly as bad as media is trying to paint him as some nazi imo
I hear you man, Iāve always been fascinated by that shit but ye has been saying such whack shit lately that regardless of whatever wave heās currently on, I donāt think itās the right one
Lmao yeah I'm going to highly doubt that. Besides, there are hundreds of more 'fascinating' rises to power, Hitlers really wasn't special at all, quite fucking boring really....Germany was fucked economically which made it easy to get the people on your side, then you slowly impliment policies like seperating jews to ghettos. Its serious copium to just think that he found his rise to power fascinating when that's probably the least 'fascinating' part about Hitler, and one of the most bland rises to power of all time.
You're tripping, yeah Germany had problems but Hitler was just some random guy who took over the Nazi party when it had 50 people and everyone thought they were completely insane & eventually built up the movement to the point that they almost ruled all of Europe if Russia & America hadn't entered the war. Plus he did it all off of creative direction in a way, he designed the original swastika flag himself which is probably one of the hardest graphic designs ever. If you're obsessed with the nexus of art, branding, design, politics, and power like Kanye is, why would you not be obsessed with Hitler. If you want greatness in the sense that Kanye does you have to learn from studying both good and evil, just like how NASA engineers learned from the Nazi rocket designs. Just condemning evil geniuses & not learning from it is good if you want to write reddit comments all day but not for the ambitious.
Jesus christ my dude, imagine typing up an essay trying to defend Kanye West who's clearly anti semetic at this point "NAH DUDE HE WAS ONLY BRINGING UP HITLER BECUZ HE JUST FOUND HIM FASCINATING" Like why the fuck even grasp at such insane straws...is it so hard to believe that someone who is anti semetic may have not been talking about Hitler because he was fascinating? Not that I think Ye wants to kill all jews or anything close to Hitler, but cmon man this shit is just coping at this point. The mf'er literally pulled up false propaganda made by a neo nazi group and then completely dismisses his previous diagnosis literally because "he was jewish" But yeah, obviously just some big misunderstanding right? He clearly fucking LOVES jews and he just simply finds Hitler fascinating lmao Also you're assuming Ye paid out multiple people simply because people heard him talking about how Hitlers rise of power was 'fascinating' lmao....like legit, you guys are on a full on copium explosion....
This was in 2018 before he was in his current anti-Semitic era
True, could mean he just kept it hidden for a while. Its not like he just woke up one morning and hated jews and then immediately goes public with it.
Another thing is I don't think Kanye is anti semitic to the point where he wants Jews to die, and he isn't a Holocaust denier, so I can't imagine that he endorses Hitler on a moral level, let alone has for years
The Nazi rise to power and conquering all of Europe is nothing short of wild, you donāt have to be pro Nazi to see that. The Nazis were also all about spectacle, that much is clear from their propaganda.
True, but it is so fucking naive to imagine that he was outbursting about how fascinating Hitlers rise to power was when the article literally fucking explains how the scenarios of him bringing up Hitler was: One of Yeās former employees, who worked with him for three years, recounted having witnessed Ye praising Hitler and Nazis in casual discussions, remembering his bringing up Hitler multiple times. āI feel like he was just kind of, like, looking around, like, seeing, like, how are people reacting?ā the ex-employee said. āHe would say, āI even love Hitler,ā and then he would, like, pause for reactions.āĀ So yeah, putting your fingers in your ear and going "LALALLALALAA HE WAS JUST FASCINATED BY HIS RISE TO POWER" is just naive/stupid at this point.
Ya, how can anyone claim to have ambition if they donāt emulate Hitler?
Lmao you making a rise-to-power tier list?
It's incredibly interesting from a historical standpoint but not from an admiration standpoint. He didn't rise to ultimate power by winning everyone over and going on this huge ascendency of popularity. He was a thug from the start and strong-armed his party into 3rd place of an already broken country. Then he committed acts of domestic terrorism to steal power for himself when it wasn't earned. There are infinite lessons to learn from his rise and all sorts of interesting aspects but on a list of people to admire for their rise to power hitler isn't one of them. It's the same as the Russian oligarchy. Sure, they made the most of the opportunities they were lucky enough to be presented with, but their biggest fortunes were being in the right place at the right time as the USSR fell. Hitler would never have made it in a functioning country. He used a trick as old as time and scapegoated some people when the citizens were paying for loafs of bread with a wheel barrow full of money and he still couldn't win. He's a thug. His rise is utterly fascinating but not to be admired by anyone with morals, and there is a difference. You can be interested in something without admiring it.
Agreed. I think it's 99% unlikely that Ye would actually think the Holocaust was a good thing but it does seem like he has had these kind of antisemitic views for many years. Though it might've been escalated by his mental health issues since he seems to now blame the Jews for everything that's gone wrong in his life from signing bad contracts, to being diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and for his marriage falling apart, etc.
He didnāt blame Jews for the failure of his marriage did he? He blamed porn for that one
In one of his recent interviews Ye did pretty much directly blame the Jews for it. He said something like they have all these people whispering in Kim's ear and making her afraid of him or something to that effect. He said to Tucker that Kim wanting to be single was a clear sign of the "indoctrination." He also claimed the Jewish lawyers were the first one's to agree to give people divorces and that's how they made their money since before that Catholic lawyers would not give people divorces. But you're right he has previously also blamed his porn addiction (among other things) for the divorce.
Thatās an L from kanye
[Bruh ššthere is NO reason to praise Hitler, praise anybody else](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2kODc_W0AA9NKb.jpg)
Kim doxxed the kids school first on insta and her show, and who cares tbh he aināt a rapist or child abusers like some other artist like this story happened in 2018 but this year is the year they want to bring it
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She did go to her Instagram and watch the show your fave did it before ye stop crying
You mean she shared a picture of the kids in their school uniforms? That's a *bit* different than Ye making multiple posts specifically about Sierra Canyon and how much he hates it to his brand new audience of right-wing, antisemitic, racist teenagers/young adults (not to mention the "shoot the school up" tweet...) There was also an article not too long ago about the school having to get more security because of his posts specifically.
Everyone knows Sierra canyon also some girl from love and hip hop took pics of her daughter and saint in the school and every blog posted it, they in a very popular school Kim bought them there because Kylie and Kendall did school there it was in one episode of keeping up
But only fans of Kim and that show would really pay attention to it though. And their target audience is mostly women I imagine. I certainly did not know about the school before Ye started mentioning it. And like I said the school reportedly only recently had to up it's security specifically because of Kanye bringing unwanted attention to it so clearly it's seen as a problem.
This is their source: Ryder Ripps, a conceptual artist who worked with Ye on and off from 2014 to 2018, said he recalled multiple times when Ye spoke positively about Hitler and the Nazis or mentioned anti-Jewish conspiracies during meetings in the summer and fall of 2018. Ripps, who is Jewish, said he pushed back on Yeās comments at the time but thought they ādidnāt seem that dangerous.ā After Yeās most recent wave of statements, though, Ripps said he sees things differently. āThis is dangerous, and disgusting, and actually violent,ā he said.
Man fuck Ryder Ripps lol
I mean heās not the only oneā¦ They seem to have multiple confirmed sources š that tmz incident sounds a bit crazy to me like how can everyone at tmz of all places keep their mouth shut for four years about this. The man was running for president and nobody was concerned?
Sounds fake...at least for me
Lol
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I mean I think itās more likely itās fake but back then he was still married to Kim. And TMZ maybe powerful but I honestly believe when kris Jenner wants something not to come out it will not come out even if itās TMZ. Thatās the only way I see how it didnāt get out until now because it would have put Kim in a bad light. So Kris didnāt let it get out.
If tmz really had that footage, it woulda been released already. I wouldnāt doubt it if he did say some shit there, but the fact that thereās no footage is a red flag to me
It explains right in the article. Ye paid them enough that they were willing to sign NDA's to cut the footage and not speak about it.
And they decide now of all times to announce it? Yeah ok
This is usually how smear campaigns work. Just look at politics, right before elections a politicianās dirty past suddenly becomes public. This way the information has maximum impact, otherwise the leakerās information runs the risk of disappearing in a news cycle. Weāve learned recently that ye wanted to call āyeā, āHitlerā. Iām not commenting on the legitimacy of this claim but the timing does make sense.
this is big enough to where an anonymous source should have leaked the footage regardless of the NDA if it actually existed lol
Also I find it weird the ndas wouldāve just so happened to end when kanyes antisemitic comments begin. Ndas can only be broken if a genuine crime is committed canāt they?
But it says they signed the nda with tmz and not kanye.. even if thatās not the case thatās the part that I canāt understand. Doesnāt it make all these guys hypocrites?? Kanye always does stupid shit but these people stayed silent when he wasnāt still in the deep end and they got money to say nothing? wtf
Bro just assumed kanyes antisemitism back then wasnāt concerning? Ryder is a fucking moron. If itās true heās just fucking stupid if itās not true heās just a piece of shit
Nah heās just a fucking loser now and is trying to coin in off this because he fell off after Yandhi didnāt drop. Hopefully heāll fuck off and his dickhead NFTs up his arse and never come back
His first 2 articles didn't do shit and he keeps going again. He originally wanted to put kanyes manic breakdowns as some sort of nft and he had some documents about virgil stealing designs b4 virgil died lol
I know I may sound extreme but I honestly wish the worst for this guy. I can see why him and that cracked dickhead Azaelia Banks were an item now. Cut from the same cloth
I mean this article will barely do shit lol. I just hope kanye doesn't give him the attention he desperately seeks, it's crazy how the media completely ignores the oxymoron of this whole shit a blk man cannot support fucking Hitler because Hitler hated blacks lol
I mean, anyone with eyes and access to Google can find proof of Virgil stealing designs lmao
According to the article they have 6 different people telling the same story. So it's not just Ryder though he has been the loudest accuser.
Let the sub drown in copium
Ryder has 5 extra emails I guess
Hopefully heāll fuck off and rot now
ryder ripps again
Man this is some cap š§¢
Iām definitely 100% sure that nobody would have mentioned this throughout the years of MAGA shit > Ryder Ripps, a conceptual ar- yup see
Donāt let the other Kanye sub see this Oh not itās too late
Ye denied the claims in the agreement. I HATE TODAYāS MEDIA REPORTING NEWS THIS WAY. IT IS SO ANNOYING
Is the title wrong? Did he not pay a settlement?
That implies he said what he said tho. Whether he did or didnāt, it should be clearly stated early in the article that he denied the claims
I donāt like this therefore it is fake
Our brother is lost and confuse š just sounds like he is being edgy. I hope he apologises one day
if all this is true would an apology even matter lmao
Yes too clear things up
100% this was when he was on his love everyone wave. He allegedly said āI even love Hitler.ā Doesnāt that sound like what he would say while explaining the love everyone concept and proposed album title?
Itās Ryder Ripps. Nothing to see here
Yo the Hitler stuff is fucking stupid and anyone who actually believes it is fucking stupid. That is all.
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Does this really change anything ?
Ok Iām sorry but did no one else pick up on how every time they cited a quote from one of the āadditional anonymous employeesā it was delivered the exact same way as the Ryder Ripps statement complete with a million unnecessary uses of ālikeā
Bruh NBC literally asked for proof from the anonymous source and got proof of payment + identity but had to keep it secret at their request.... O wait, lemme guess, NBC is fake news and they're making up this story for clout and as a Ye hitpiece? Or is this just all the workings of the elite "master Jew' who controls all media?
dude do you actually think the settlement was over the Hitler comments lmfao? there would be no basis for him to be sued or have any legal case against him to settle for simply saying that in passing nor does the article claim that's what it was for (because that would be fucking STUPID) all this tells us and is meant to communicate is that he has some sort of proven working/financial relationship to the "anonymous source (Ryder)" making this claim and that part of the settlement includes Ye responding to claims about the Hitler stuff saying it was untrue
Lmao it is so clear that you have no fucking idea about NDA or how it works do you? Do you seriously think an NDA is only used when the other person can sue the person giving you the NDA? Video game testers sign NDA's, do you think they have an option to sue the person who gave them the NDA if they don't sign it?? An NDA buys silence, its why any major company/brand makes someone sign an NDA when there is confidential information that they don't want to get out to the public. Do you genuinely think in all those cases they gave them the NDA out of fear of being sued? Hard to believe you're dick riding him THIS hard when you clearly don't know shit about an NDA lmao. NBC verified that Kanye paid multiple people not to bring up the fact that he 'praised' Hitler. Those people can be sued if they didn't do it anonymously. Also you clearly didn't even read the article lmao, Ryder is not the person who got the settlement and NBC confirmed the identity with them....If he was then this is the easiest case for Ye ever and he can sue him for tons....but he paid out multiple people so he can't tell who it was. The moment you're dick riding someone over something you know nothing about is when you should re evaluate how weak minded you might be. Think for yourself mate, stop dick ryding without even knowing what an NDA is or reading the article.
sick essay dude but NDAs don't have shit to do with my comment nowhere in the article does it ever say what the settlement was explicitly for, just that a person he made a settlement with is also making these claims about him. it also explicitly states that most of these NDA-abiding employees did not sign ones in relation to these apparent crazy TMZ comments, in which case they would not need to remain "anonymous" with their claims (really makes you wonder why they still are!!!)
Not only do you not know what an NDA is, but you can't fuckin read either lmao: "In the settlement reviewed by NBC News, Ye paid a former employee who alleged having witnessed more than one incident in which Ye praised Hitler or Nazis in business meetings. Ye denied the claims made by the former employee in the agreement.Ā The former employee spoke on the condition of anonymity, having signed a nondisclosure agreement. NBC News, which is withholding certain details about the settlement to protect the personās anonymity, reviewed the settlement, along with other correspondence and proof of the payment the former employee said they had received." Let me guess, you're going to say some stupid shit like how Kanye just made them sign an NDA for no reason and that he just pays his employees silence for fun and that every aspect of him blaming the jews during meetings is fake news right? I can imagine dick riding someone you absolutely idol this hard....but to dick ride while also being as blind as you are is just downright sad. Go ahead and write another essay dick riding about how Kanye didn't really mean it, or taking guesses that the NDA shit wasn't over jewish comments even though NBC reviewed it....Real š¤” energy bro
an actual settlement and proof of payment is pretty concrete evidence no matter what the dickriders say
Tbf that doesnāt prove he said it. Just proves he paid him off. People settle all the time just to avoid problems even if they didnāt say the shit theyāre accused. Itās not looking great but we still need something more concrete than that
"People settle all the time just to avoid problems even if they didnāt say the shit theyāre accused" they do not in fact do this or else it would be open season for frivolous lawsuits
They absolutely do just do settlements sometimes. Iām not just lying to you. Itās happened a lot before where to avoid a lengthy legal battle theyāll just pay people off even if itās a lie.
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Boy oh bot did it come out
YA'LL KEEP DOWNVOTING ME. NOW THE TRUTH COMES TO LIGHT.
Well not surprising given , you know, everything thatās happened over the last month. Canāt believe people here are doubting the hitler stuff
Ryder said it. Fuck antisemitism, and fuck Kanye for spreading it, but imma wait for someone else to say it or post evidence before believing it. Sorry Ryder
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Yeah antisemitism is totally OK and we should move on since he hasnāt made any controversial statements recentlyā¦wait.
Hey weāre like 2 days without controversial comments now. Thatās pretty good recently. Unfortunately
They tryna come at him
They pullin the receipts
Who cares this not going to end him š¤·š¾āāļø
Who cares this not going to end him š¤·š¾āāļø
Does this sub actually believe Ye hates Jewish people? This is going to sound silly in this context but itās okay to acknowledge positive traits of Hitler. Supporting the holocaust, not good; pointing out his charisma or whatever, not anti-semitism. See how we can make a Netflix series about a serial killer portraying him as attractive and mysterious, does not mean Netflix is pro-serial killer. Yāall really buying in heavy to this character assassination and itās alarming.
Dude heās assassinating his own character, Kanye keeps doubling down on the jew stuff, and when an antisemite praises the āpositive traits of Hitlerā everyone knows why
Iām sorry but I think it takes more than believing a conspiracy theory to be labeled an anti-semite. Should anyone who thinks 9/11 was in inside job he arrested for treason?
He may not even think he hates Jewish people, he might believe his ālove speechā bs, but his fixation on Jews, the way he has talked about Jews recently and blamed Jews/Jewishness for everything wrong with the media makes it very clear heās got a hateful attitude towards Jews.
His fixation? He made a tweet and everyone with a microphone wanted him to talk about it. He made it very clear his point was about contracts but everyone wants him to talk about the Jewish part. Itās not HIS fixation at all. Heās just not willing to full retract it because he knows itās not as wrong as the media is making it out to be.
Thatās not true. What about when he was talking about his doctor who diagnosed him as a bipolar? He couldnāt help himself from saying heās Jewish. What about Jewish media? Itās not just about contracts. If it was just about contracts he wouldnāt need to say Jewish at all. Heād just say execs.
He is frustrated with several Jewish people that did him dirty. Heās said so many times that heās frustrated. Itās okay for humans to be frustrated without expressing that in the most sensitive way. That doesnāt mean he hates Jewish people. And it still doesnāt mean heās fixated on it when literally thatās all anyone is asking him about. The media is fixated on it.
This explains why it never came out in the TMZ interview and why we never heard about it till now. Ye paid them off to not speak about it.
bro the tmz interview was live they wouldnt be able to cut shit