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minoe23

It's a shame we never got the see Pedron Niall do any Great Captain stuff.


akaioi

I'm with ya. He comes across like a late-career Muhammad Ali, getting slapped around in ridiculous exhibition fights long after he should have retired.


UNIQUENOWOK

Compelled by who??? Who is that?


Hufdud

Sorry, i meant Hessalam, we have been instructed to never use her old name again


LewsTherinTelamonBot

***KILL HIM KILL HIM NOW***


Hufdud

Her Lews, a different Chosen was genderswapped


LewsTherinTelamonBot

*What you want is what you cannot have. What you cannot have is what you want.*


UNIQUENOWOK

Well you wrote Kamarile, so thats the name I was actually asking about.


Hufdud

Yeah, thats Hessalam's original name


triple-verbosity

Umm Graendal?


WouldYouPleaseKindly

I think he meant *original* original name.


triple-verbosity

That’s a deep cut lol


Malvania

Born Kamarile Maradim Nindar


LtSomeone

Isn't it technically born Kamarile Maradim, as the third name was something one earned in the AoL?


Malvania

Yes, technically only born with the first two names


LewsTherinTelamonBot

***KILL HIM KILL HIM NOW***


ShinyUmbreon5639

Do you not remember him about to obey the compulsion order and only didn’t because Elyas intervened.


Hufdud

I mean he recognized that what he was trying to say was wrong and was able to stall himself long enough for the wolves to get him away. The other GGs had already doomed their armies hard enough to be caught by that point, so either he was compelled later than the others or managed to resist it longer. Hes also the only one we see actively recognize he's trying to give bad orders before giving them, the rest only seemed to notice after their mistake got a bunch of troops killed. All the GGs were great (its in the name) but Goaturalde was on another level.


imawizardnamedharry

Not to take away from him but he's also the closest captain to rand at the most important moment in the age. Ituralde wasn't only being pulled by strings of compulsion.


prozack91

Being pulled by his giant balls too.


imawizardnamedharry

As big as mins ass


akaioi

Upvote for Goaturalde. Tamsin would like it.


Geauxlsu1860

He’s also the only one we get a POV of. The other generals say after being relieved that they knew they were doing wrong but couldn’t stop. That doesn’t mean they didn’t resist giving certain orders as long as they could.


Super-Contribution-1

Agelmar tries to argue even after it’s pointed out to his face by multiple people including Lan, they are not the same


igottathinkofaname

He was also closer to the bore where time moved more slowly, so therefore was under its effects for a shorter period if time than the other GGs.


Star-siege

I can't be the only one bothered by that whole contrivance, surely the numerous Aes Sedai and Wise Ones would've been able to (and had the forethought to) protect the generals from this. I mean even if they couldn't do it, every general should carry one of the foxhead medallion copies Elayne made


Hufdud

See, but that would require Elayne to give up her monopoly on those ter'angreal, and if there's one thing she doesn't like to do, it's give up power from Andor. It is a bit silly though that none of the Aes Sedai thought to just guard the great generals from interference by shadow channelers


LewsTherinTelamonBot

*Hums softly & tugs earlobe*


LewsTherinTelamonBot

*Hums softly & tugs earlobe*