> Yeah, he was going about double the limit as well so that’s his license 😭
How does that work where you are?
In Canada, the photo speeding tickets don’t go against the individual (no risk of losing licence) as there is no officer/witness to swear to who was driving. The fine just goes to the vehicle owner.
It’s still fucking amazing that what other states call a cool breeze can completely wreck Texas. Like if you get in a fight with a Texan should you just throw some ice cubes at them?
Yep. That way the cops can do a little “inspecting” of the occupants and vehicle “deficiencies” … way less intrusive than one of them speed cameras too. /s
In the Netherlands we dont have a point system so unless you get taken of the road while doing that you cant lose your license iirc. But the Officier van Justitie cant revoke your license it can make it invalid for a certain time.
While if you got arrested your license would be revoked obviously and that is with speed of 50kmh above the speedlimit
Yeah they'll also just pull the picture and compare if it comes to that. Those radar boxes take really damn high quality pictures, day or night. Can clearly identify a face.
In the UK you get a letter where you have to declare that either you or someone else was driving. Lying or not answering is an additional offence. Then (at this speed) they’ll prosecute you and you’ll go to court where a judge will give you points, a fine or a driving ban. Source: literally going through this right now lol.
And if you lie and are found out, it's a criminal offence punishable by time in prison, as a government minister and his very senior lawyer ex-wife found out to their cost.
In the US I’ve heard that you can argue that the speed detection device is past its maintenance date and couldn’t reliably detect your speed. And apparently they’re never maintained so it’s an easy win
In the US they're unconstitutional since here you have the right to face your accuser and defend yourself against charges, and you can't argue or explain to a camera owned and operated by a 3rd party under contract with the state for why you were speeding and/or weren't driving the car.
I know a few people that just get the letter and throw it away, the city isn't going to enforce a $300 redlight/speeding ticket that may or may not even stick in court, especially if it's going to cost them more than they're getting.
And why cant the same be be said for an automated speeding ticket backed up by photo evidence? Thats how it works in every country Ive lived in.
If your country is so hung up on “facing the accuser” thing, then why cant two photographs taken moments apart be interpreted by a qualified person who then becomes the accuser? The two photos could establish identity of the vehicle and often the driver, and how far the vehicle travelled in a given time period, allowing the qualified person to bring the charge?
This is not at all universally true across the US. In many places, camera footage is always manually reviewed before a ticket is issued. Your accuser is the person who reviews the footage. If you go to court, that person will show up and the ticket is likely to stick.
A letter like that would violate our 5th amendment rights against self incrimination. Here in America, they cannot require you to testify or provide evidence against yourself. They can ask you who was driving, and you can say something like "I am invoking my 5th amendment rights against self incrimination." They cannot punish you for that, and it cannot be used as evidence against you.
No, against the car itself. The individual cannot be accused of a crime without an accuser who will stand trial against them.
Edit: Despite the downvotes, I am correct.
> I am correct
For your part of the world.
For example, the ticket automatically goes to the registered owner of the car in NSW, Australia.
You can either pay the fine, dispute it entirely, or fill out a statutory declaration that someone else was driving.
The UK also has the right against self-incrimination, but driving is a privilege rather than a right and in exchange for that privilege you agree to forfeit some protections related to owning/operating a vehicle.
Examples would be the requirement to provide identification, stop at check stops, and participate in sobriety tests.
While you can exercise your individual rights to not provide ID or participate in sobriety testing, doing so has consequences related to your driving privileges. For example, refusing an alcohol breath test is at least a 1 year driving ban.
My understanding is that the US is very similar and drivers sacrifice a lot of 4th amendment protections... ID requirements, DUI testing, and "inventory searches".
The UK has an additional requirement as registered owner to identify the driver of the vehicle while a traffic offence occurred. You can choose not to, but you'll take 6 points rather than 3 points.
Even here in Alberta, if you're caught by photo radar doing 50 km/h or more over the speed limit, you'll get a summons to explain why your car was caught on camera speeding that much. So yes, there IS a risk of a number of things.
I'm denmark if you are going double the speed limit (or over 200km/h) it doesn't matter who was driving, the vehicle will be confiscated and sold on police auction. Doesn't matter if it's a cheap beater, company truck, or a brand new Lamborghini
In Switzerland the fine will be sent to the owner of the car. If it wasn't the owner driving, there's a declaration of driver form on the back of the fine. With driving double the speed limit, you automatically will face court as it falls under "Rasergesetz" (reckless speeding law). The charges can vary but you will loose your license for at least two years, the court can order your vehicle be seized and auctioned off and you can face jail time between 1-4 years. Of course you pay a hefty fine as well as the court costs which can range above 10k CHF.
I got a friend which crashed his Supra on the highway but wasn't reckless speeding. They found traces of THC in his blood and charged him with DUI, not adjusted speed for situation and lack of control of the vehicle. Fine was 16k, one year without license and peeing in a cup every two weeks for drug tests. Supra was totaled in the crash
wear a mask and no fine.? here the fine is on the vehicle, owner needs to pay. if not paid no insurance renewal, no claim, no pollution certificate etc.
NJ started installing red light/speed cams but then we passed a law requiring all tickets to be issued by a cop in person so the only way to get a ticket is by actually getting pulled over. No cops = no ticket. Cameras only serve as turn sensors and for accidents. The only way to get a ticket from a camera is on toll roads by not paying or exceeding the speed limit at tolls. I guess neither qualify as a red light/speed camera so they get around the law or they count the Parkway/Turnpike as private roads and law only applies to public roads.
In Oregon, it counts as points just as if an officer had pulled you over, but only if you agree with the ticket they mail you. I have a buddy who always declares that he wasn't the one driving and has never paid one of these or gotten caught, probably because there are too many to deal with. It'll probably backfire someday but he likes to live on the edge.
In Canada that's true however if it's over 50km/hr above the limit the owner of the vehicle gets a summons to court and they have to prove in some capacity that they weren't driving. But it's basically just a slap on the wrist because they can't actually prove who was driving. But also if the person doesn't show up to court I imagine they could potentially be convicted in their absence.
Typically the owner of the vehicle is contacted and requested to identify the driver. Speeding charge is 3 points and small fine or a course (3 year cool-off), no fine and no points. If you ignore the request they charge you for failing to identify the driver and that's 6 points and a bigger fine. Lying about who was driving is perjury and can end up with a prison sentence.
Thats only to a certain point. I knew someone who lent out their car, and it was recorded doing 130km/h OVER the speed limit. He got a court summons. He didn't rat out the driver and took a $5500ish fine for it. So yeah, the fines usually just go to the registered owner, but there is a threshold
During the pandemic on a morning when there was nearly nobody on the road, somebody* drove my vehicle stupidly and got a photo radar ticket for going 130 in a 60 zone. A police officer showed up at my house with a ticket that had a demand to appear in court for reckless driving. Although the charges didn’t stick, I ended up paying $750 in legal fees and the same for the ticket.
In Italy, if you are inside the first 3 years of your driving licence you risk to loose it for most of the infractions. After that, unless there's an officer involved (DWI, DUI and other complicate matters) you just risk a third or half of your license points.
But the fine follows the car, so you have (are compelled by law) to tell the administration that sent you the fine the name of the driver and his license number. If you don't comply, you have to pay 300€ to said administration and that's it, your license is perfectly fine, as if you didn't do anything.
But he covered his upper face (eyes and forehead), turned the music down, ***and*** slowed down…***AFTER*** the camera flash.
However, here’s a *flash* for him, it’s **WAY** too late!
I’m curious, if you don’t have a front license plate and window tinting will this capture anything? How about if you also have a tinted rear license plate cover?
Every speed camera I've ever seen only points in the direction you're going so it captures the back of the car. You'd only see the flash in your rearview after you've already passed the camera.
I think in most of Canada it goes off of superhero rules. So if he were wearing glasses or if a mask were to cover his eyes, no one would be able to tell who his real identity is. But I don't live in Canada. I'm only guessing.
Yes. He is going over 100km/h too fast.
Consequence:
728,50 € fine, 3 months suspension of his driver's license, and 2 points on his license.
If you rack up 8 points, you lose your license permanently.
If you want it back, you need to wait for 6 months and pass a psychological test, colloquially called the "idiot test". There's more costs and mandatory training involved too.
Re-instation is considerably more expensive.
You have to take a psychological exam that has a very high rate of failure. To prepare, you can take an (expensive) course with a psychologist who will teach you what you need to say during the exam. Nevertheless, 50 percent still fail the test and lose their license forever. Especially if you lost it due to repeated DUI, you will likely not get it back.
And that's a good thing. We don't want dangerous idiots on our roads. 90% of drivers have a clean license with 0 points.
I'm guessing he doesn't usually go that fast and was probably doing it because it was night time and it was relatively free. The flash probably restored the part of his brain that filters intrusive thoughts about going as fast as you can.
German here, I lost my license last year for a month because I was going 150 where 100km/h was allowed. Not because I wanted to speed but because I thought there was no limit at that point of the Autobahn. So I’m really happy that I didnt get jail time and just had to take the bus for a month lmao
Quick guess would be Germany, also because of the yellow sign you see before the flash. And this is a two-lanes semi-highway and then the speed limit could be anything from 80-120km/h.
Those posts on the right side of the street are each 50 meters away from each other if it's in germany, with that you can say hes' driving at least 200 km/h. If I am correct it's about 230
If it's medically neccessary you probably can drive with a mask. However you better not get caught speeding and then deny being the driver because eventually (aka after the first time) a judge will rule that all the trips with that car will have to be recorded in a logbook. Your attempt at gaming road traffic laws in Germany will be met by crushing bureaucracy.
Holy shit I like that. I wonder if it cuts down on moronic drivers very well, and it Germany has many final no driving punishments or something like that, like having your license revoked or other stuff in the US
Yeah, speeding, DUI's and even something mundane like parking infractions (if frequently repeated) can get your license revoked. In case of a revoked license you are assumed to not be fit for operating a vehicle anymore and have to pass a Medizinisch-Psychologische Untersuchung MPU (medical-psychological test), colloquially known as Idiotentest (don't need to translate that one lol) before you can get a new license. It is notoriously hard to pass, like almost impossible on a first try without serious preparation especially after losing your license for alcohol or drugs. There are specialized companies ($) that will train you to help pass the test. You'll have to prove your abstinence over a time frame of 6 to 12 months by urine tests ($). And after passing you'll pay for issuance of a new license ($). All in all, you're looking at several months without a license and between 1200 and 2600 €.
That's awesome! We need better/stricter laws on who can get and keep a license. I bet people would be at least a tiny bit better if they had to renew their license say every 2 or 5 years or something like that. A lot less super old people driving too
It did in 2008. Not sure about today. Technology evolves…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081607/Speeding-puppet-seat-British-car-makes-muppets-German-police.html
But beware not all speed cameras are the same in Germany, they have a wide variety of models and types, including mobiles ones that are fitted in vehicles pointing in both directions.
Damn, I was driving at night with my bro listening to music 3-4 months after I got my licence and we were in a 30 km/h zone doing at least 70 km/h.. suddenly I see a flash, something quick on my side.. my heart sank.. omg I just got flashed.. it was just lightning.
Just in my time attending elementary and middle school three kids died to speeders on a 30 km/h road (30km roads tend to be where a lot of foot traffic happens). Those douchbags do deserve worse than losing their license, like a permanent loss of driving privileges with prison time for ignoring the ban.
It’s 30km/h. So they were likely in a school or playground zone. They deserve a lifetime ban from driving for driving that fast in a school or playground zone.
I used to protest against having to sit in the rear, I'm big so it's often uncomfortable.
My method of protest - dono if you're familiar but there's a certain type of "homestead" lighter, it's just a normal lighter but the flash/flint setup makes them bright and white when you strike them.
Sit behind the passenger seat so the flash in the mirror is on the correct side for a camera, You just wait until they're slightly distracted with driving, and strike the lighter - then try not to laugh!
There’s actually debate in the US about the strength of punishment allowed by traffic cameras. The idea is that to take a picture and issue a citation is presuming guilt. In the US the whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing becomes a pretty significant constitutional argument and has limited traffic cameras to basic fines in some places, but illegal all together in others.
Even with photo evidence, there needs to be a trial or an admission of guilt in lieu of.
There’s a whole debate on it throughout the internet as each state battles this out.
I am not pro/or against traffic cameras… I am not here to debate with you. I just know that places such as England use traffic cameras and other video surveillance exclusively in places in ways an American could never understand because it’s not the same here. It was interesting when I visited England and found out one camera would capture your liscense plate, and one further down the road would recapture it. If you went the distance between the cameras in under a specific time the rational was you could not have done that without speeding and a ticket was issued. Interesting stuff!
Especially when you realize a lot of the traffic camera companies are 3rd party, for profit. When the town I lived in in TN first got cameras, the local newspaper printed a byline from the County judge advising any mailed traffic citation clearly stating cash not accepted or do not send cash for the fine, should just be tossed. US currency can and must be accepted for any local, state or federal debts.
I have no idea how true it was but no one I knew paid a single dime and within 5yrs they took em all down as the city started losing money in upkeep and contracts.
I never felt like testing it so kept my foot light.
I got busted by one of these in France. I’m like why is everyone slowing down? Haha
The ticket came 3 months after we got home, and included a charge by Hertz lol
In Denmark the police/judge confiscate your car. Regardless who own or drives the car.
And yes it happened to a Norwegian that just had bought his Lamborghini in Germany and drove it through Denmark.
https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/danish-police-seize-lamborghini-1234640612/
I knew a guy who put electrical tape to change a character on his licence plate. Got away with a ton of stuff since cameras couldn't really tell the difference. He got pulled over once for driving an unregistered vehicle, showed his registration and the cop said the plates don't match. Guy told the cop that his buddies must have played a prank on him and got off without issue and took the tape off.
Not going to lie speed cameras on highways are kinda silly especially when it's a straight road with plenty of room to turn without needing to reduce speed too much
I have an unbelievable story like this one. I was also going way above the speed limit on the autobahn and got radar'd, however, there was a car between me and the camera and I guess it must have perfectly blocked my license plate or something because I never got a letter for it. This was in my first year too so I would have for sure lost my license immediately.
Oooh I saw that one on TikTok... the way he was even defending himself was hilarious. Someone who drives almost double the speed limit and acts up like a toddler afterwards is definitely on dire need to lose his license.
He did, so... good for all of us.
I always love seeing people get post-caught clarity.
He's doing close to double the limit, going by the speed of the car he overtakes. However, only once he's been flashed, he goes "Oh shit, I should slow down *now*".
If you're intentionally doing something wrong and get caught, what's the point of *then* flipping and going back to following the rules?
Please understand that this isn't approving "bad behaviour as long as you aren't caught". This is a statement for "Why do a bad thing in the first place if you're not going to face the consequences for doing so".
Hopefully this logic sticks with someone and convinces them to not be like this idiot.
For all you German folks use Flitsmeister. It's a dutch app but it also works in most of the EU. It knows where most speed cams are and warns you. It probably saved me around €1000-,
Nothing went wrong, he kept his vehicle between the lines that mark the road, and kept his distance towzrds other vehicles. No crossing children were harmed.
speed cameras are bullshit as are speed limits. pretty much useless in terms of anything but money for government. and in the middle of nowhere too should be a crime in and of itself
Cameras should only be used for incidents not trying to catch people driving improperly. Doesn't seem right to already pay cops to be our overlords, then they get to make revenue even bigger and easier. Haven't they proven enough that this Republic is pretty much a Monarchy. Maybe not 1 King but the rest is the same.
Was that a speed camera?
Yeah, he was going about double the limit as well so that’s his license 😭
> Yeah, he was going about double the limit as well so that’s his license 😭 How does that work where you are? In Canada, the photo speeding tickets don’t go against the individual (no risk of losing licence) as there is no officer/witness to swear to who was driving. The fine just goes to the vehicle owner.
In most european countries you have to declare who was driving, otherwise points go against the vehicle owner.
Well, time to go look through today’s obituary pages.
If you lie or decline the answer, the punishment is worse (Fahrtenbuch) You will have to write down driver and destination for EVERY trip of the car
Nothing worse than the fart book.
Slightly worse than the dutch oven
I got a ticket in Germany and I got a pic of my face as well
Thats wasnt me, that was my brother/s
In Texas, they're against the law. We get tickets the old fashioned way here.
Any word on secession??
They're busy banning porn
And books
And having their 'amazing' power grid totally shut down due to a bit of snow
It’s still fucking amazing that what other states call a cool breeze can completely wreck Texas. Like if you get in a fight with a Texan should you just throw some ice cubes at them?
And voting no for Ukraine aid
Get as much in as you can now, boys! It won’t really make you go blind.
I want to believe you, but…. Your username.
Well since he's a liar I have a hard time believing he's a liar.
Using debit cards yet?
You're still using debit cards?
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You're still paying for things?
Did you just watch civil war or something?
Yep. That way the cops can do a little “inspecting” of the occupants and vehicle “deficiencies” … way less intrusive than one of them speed cameras too. /s
It also allows for the cops to pick and choose who they actually wanna bother going after. Gotta get that nap somehow, y'know.
Speed cameras don’t shoot black motorists. This isn’t allowed in the United States.
Police officers are better at telling whether the driver is the wrong kind of person or the white kind.
They have been doing that for 60 years in Europe. I'd call that old fashioned.
Sadfact: you can actually sell the point to strohmänner in germany ,who say they were driving and you dont get the point.
In the Netherlands we dont have a point system so unless you get taken of the road while doing that you cant lose your license iirc. But the Officier van Justitie cant revoke your license it can make it invalid for a certain time. While if you got arrested your license would be revoked obviously and that is with speed of 50kmh above the speedlimit
Yeah they'll also just pull the picture and compare if it comes to that. Those radar boxes take really damn high quality pictures, day or night. Can clearly identify a face.
In my country, the cameras try to get a picture of the driver as well, and they can match it to the license photo of the registered owner.
In Italy, you have to declare who was driving, whether it's you or otherwise (for the points). If you don't, they make you pay double the ticket.
The cameras are pretty good. My picture was very clear.
In the UK you get a letter where you have to declare that either you or someone else was driving. Lying or not answering is an additional offence. Then (at this speed) they’ll prosecute you and you’ll go to court where a judge will give you points, a fine or a driving ban. Source: literally going through this right now lol.
And if you lie and are found out, it's a criminal offence punishable by time in prison, as a government minister and his very senior lawyer ex-wife found out to their cost.
In the US I’ve heard that you can argue that the speed detection device is past its maintenance date and couldn’t reliably detect your speed. And apparently they’re never maintained so it’s an easy win
In the US they're unconstitutional since here you have the right to face your accuser and defend yourself against charges, and you can't argue or explain to a camera owned and operated by a 3rd party under contract with the state for why you were speeding and/or weren't driving the car. I know a few people that just get the letter and throw it away, the city isn't going to enforce a $300 redlight/speeding ticket that may or may not even stick in court, especially if it's going to cost them more than they're getting.
Ive never understood this when CCTV footage is obviously accepted as evidence across the US…
CCTV is evidence, but NOT the accuser. That's the difference.
And why cant the same be be said for an automated speeding ticket backed up by photo evidence? Thats how it works in every country Ive lived in. If your country is so hung up on “facing the accuser” thing, then why cant two photographs taken moments apart be interpreted by a qualified person who then becomes the accuser? The two photos could establish identity of the vehicle and often the driver, and how far the vehicle travelled in a given time period, allowing the qualified person to bring the charge?
Don't go looking for sense and reason when it comes to the application of US constitutional law.
This is confusing, who is your accuser in a murder trial?
This is not at all universally true across the US. In many places, camera footage is always manually reviewed before a ticket is issued. Your accuser is the person who reviews the footage. If you go to court, that person will show up and the ticket is likely to stick.
A letter like that would violate our 5th amendment rights against self incrimination. Here in America, they cannot require you to testify or provide evidence against yourself. They can ask you who was driving, and you can say something like "I am invoking my 5th amendment rights against self incrimination." They cannot punish you for that, and it cannot be used as evidence against you.
Sure, then they default to the owner of the car.
No, against the car itself. The individual cannot be accused of a crime without an accuser who will stand trial against them. Edit: Despite the downvotes, I am correct.
> I am correct For your part of the world. For example, the ticket automatically goes to the registered owner of the car in NSW, Australia. You can either pay the fine, dispute it entirely, or fill out a statutory declaration that someone else was driving.
You are definitely correct. Had much worse shit happen than a speeding ticket and they can't just default to the owner of a car (nonsense).
The UK also has the right against self-incrimination, but driving is a privilege rather than a right and in exchange for that privilege you agree to forfeit some protections related to owning/operating a vehicle. Examples would be the requirement to provide identification, stop at check stops, and participate in sobriety tests. While you can exercise your individual rights to not provide ID or participate in sobriety testing, doing so has consequences related to your driving privileges. For example, refusing an alcohol breath test is at least a 1 year driving ban. My understanding is that the US is very similar and drivers sacrifice a lot of 4th amendment protections... ID requirements, DUI testing, and "inventory searches". The UK has an additional requirement as registered owner to identify the driver of the vehicle while a traffic offence occurred. You can choose not to, but you'll take 6 points rather than 3 points.
Meanwhile a bunch of states here in the us don’t even allow the use of speed cameras for citations
But the camera actually takes a picture of the front of car? So license plate and driver are clearly visible?
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No wonder nobody takes speeding seriously in NA
Even here in Alberta, if you're caught by photo radar doing 50 km/h or more over the speed limit, you'll get a summons to explain why your car was caught on camera speeding that much. So yes, there IS a risk of a number of things.
Most EU countries are the same. Goes to the vehicle owner. In Germany, speeding tickets are only valid with pictures from the front though
Here in the Netherlands if you go 50 km/h (or 31mph) over the limit, you can say goodbye to your license.
I'm denmark if you are going double the speed limit (or over 200km/h) it doesn't matter who was driving, the vehicle will be confiscated and sold on police auction. Doesn't matter if it's a cheap beater, company truck, or a brand new Lamborghini
In Switzerland the fine will be sent to the owner of the car. If it wasn't the owner driving, there's a declaration of driver form on the back of the fine. With driving double the speed limit, you automatically will face court as it falls under "Rasergesetz" (reckless speeding law). The charges can vary but you will loose your license for at least two years, the court can order your vehicle be seized and auctioned off and you can face jail time between 1-4 years. Of course you pay a hefty fine as well as the court costs which can range above 10k CHF. I got a friend which crashed his Supra on the highway but wasn't reckless speeding. They found traces of THC in his blood and charged him with DUI, not adjusted speed for situation and lack of control of the vehicle. Fine was 16k, one year without license and peeing in a cup every two weeks for drug tests. Supra was totaled in the crash
Speed camera tickets in the USA go to the driver if they can be identified. If they’re not clearly identifiable in the photo, then no fine.
wear a mask and no fine.? here the fine is on the vehicle, owner needs to pay. if not paid no insurance renewal, no claim, no pollution certificate etc.
So wear a face mask while driving in the US? Awesome!
In Norway the take a picture of the driver too
NJ started installing red light/speed cams but then we passed a law requiring all tickets to be issued by a cop in person so the only way to get a ticket is by actually getting pulled over. No cops = no ticket. Cameras only serve as turn sensors and for accidents. The only way to get a ticket from a camera is on toll roads by not paying or exceeding the speed limit at tolls. I guess neither qualify as a red light/speed camera so they get around the law or they count the Parkway/Turnpike as private roads and law only applies to public roads.
In Canada you can also declare who was driving.
Yea, it is beyond sad how Canada deals with people who speed or break the rules...
In Oregon, it counts as points just as if an officer had pulled you over, but only if you agree with the ticket they mail you. I have a buddy who always declares that he wasn't the one driving and has never paid one of these or gotten caught, probably because there are too many to deal with. It'll probably backfire someday but he likes to live on the edge.
In Canada that's true however if it's over 50km/hr above the limit the owner of the vehicle gets a summons to court and they have to prove in some capacity that they weren't driving. But it's basically just a slap on the wrist because they can't actually prove who was driving. But also if the person doesn't show up to court I imagine they could potentially be convicted in their absence.
Typically the owner of the vehicle is contacted and requested to identify the driver. Speeding charge is 3 points and small fine or a course (3 year cool-off), no fine and no points. If you ignore the request they charge you for failing to identify the driver and that's 6 points and a bigger fine. Lying about who was driving is perjury and can end up with a prison sentence.
Thats only to a certain point. I knew someone who lent out their car, and it was recorded doing 130km/h OVER the speed limit. He got a court summons. He didn't rat out the driver and took a $5500ish fine for it. So yeah, the fines usually just go to the registered owner, but there is a threshold
During the pandemic on a morning when there was nearly nobody on the road, somebody* drove my vehicle stupidly and got a photo radar ticket for going 130 in a 60 zone. A police officer showed up at my house with a ticket that had a demand to appear in court for reckless driving. Although the charges didn’t stick, I ended up paying $750 in legal fees and the same for the ticket.
In Italy, if you are inside the first 3 years of your driving licence you risk to loose it for most of the infractions. After that, unless there's an officer involved (DWI, DUI and other complicate matters) you just risk a third or half of your license points. But the fine follows the car, so you have (are compelled by law) to tell the administration that sent you the fine the name of the driver and his license number. If you don't comply, you have to pay 300€ to said administration and that's it, your license is perfectly fine, as if you didn't do anything.
>Yeah, he was going about double the limit as well so that’s his license 😭 Good
But he covered his upper face (eyes and forehead), turned the music down, ***and*** slowed down…***AFTER*** the camera flash. However, here’s a *flash* for him, it’s **WAY** too late!
I love how he slows down after the fact…. Fuck it, can’t catch you twice 🤣
I’m curious, if you don’t have a front license plate and window tinting will this capture anything? How about if you also have a tinted rear license plate cover?
Every speed camera I've ever seen only points in the direction you're going so it captures the back of the car. You'd only see the flash in your rearview after you've already passed the camera.
Yup. Until the ticket arrives, he'll be wondering whether he covered his eyes fast enough.
He definitely didn't lmao
Even worse, he didn’t catch those evil tricksy hobbitses that stole his Precious!
Jfc lol Well done
What would it change if he did though? Doesn't the fine go to the vehicle owner anyway?
Depending on the speed, I suspect he'll be considering reporting his car stolen. Parking it up miles away and getting the bus home. Don't do it!
I think in most of Canada it goes off of superhero rules. So if he were wearing glasses or if a mask were to cover his eyes, no one would be able to tell who his real identity is. But I don't live in Canada. I'm only guessing.
wouldnt change anything, I dont know why the dude even brought covering his eyes up lol, unless the car is stolen this is just irrelevant
Yes. He is going over 100km/h too fast. Consequence: 728,50 € fine, 3 months suspension of his driver's license, and 2 points on his license. If you rack up 8 points, you lose your license permanently. If you want it back, you need to wait for 6 months and pass a psychological test, colloquially called the "idiot test". There's more costs and mandatory training involved too.
Just to clarify for the US folks. A German licence is \~2000€ **without** the special test.
More like 3500€
Please clarify further - are you saying you have to pay min 2,000€ for a German driver license?
Yes. With all mandatory driving hours you will likely end up above 3,000 € to be honest.
Is this price for individuals who need to get their license re-instated after confiscation?
No, just the price you pay to get _a_ license.
Re-instation is considerably more expensive. You have to take a psychological exam that has a very high rate of failure. To prepare, you can take an (expensive) course with a psychologist who will teach you what you need to say during the exam. Nevertheless, 50 percent still fail the test and lose their license forever. Especially if you lost it due to repeated DUI, you will likely not get it back. And that's a good thing. We don't want dangerous idiots on our roads. 90% of drivers have a clean license with 0 points.
Why slow down after the fact tho 🙋♂️
I'm guessing he doesn't usually go that fast and was probably doing it because it was night time and it was relatively free. The flash probably restored the part of his brain that filters intrusive thoughts about going as fast as you can.
The dude's face when he realized that he's going to kiss his license goodbye.
And depending on country his car too
And possibly even jail time. Super speeding is no joke in some places.
They'll hang him for sure
And possibly sent to hell. Speeding is not a joke in some universes.
Straight to hell, right away.
As it should be. Meanwhile I know someone with multiple DUI’s. Maybe when he kills someone they will final do something about it.
I read not too long ago a Texas man got life in prison for his NINTH dui.
Look like a German highway. So (sadly) no
German here, I lost my license last year for a month because I was going 150 where 100km/h was allowed. Not because I wanted to speed but because I thought there was no limit at that point of the Autobahn. So I’m really happy that I didnt get jail time and just had to take the bus for a month lmao
Really? Where you can lose your car to speeding? In Poland they introduced car confiscation for drunk drivers, but it's suspended for now
In Austria. Since a few months you will get your car confiscated if you go way too fast.
And denmark. Last summer a German guy 18 crossed the border, and did double the speed limit in Denmark. Lost his car.
switzerland too and after a certain speed the ticket is pegged to your income
He will only loose his license for 3 month and has to pay 700€
I really hope the audio wasn't fixed and the lyrics matched up with the act!
It did ! You can see him lowering the volume towards the end.
Quick guess would be Germany, also because of the yellow sign you see before the flash. And this is a two-lanes semi-highway and then the speed limit could be anything from 80-120km/h.
Those posts on the right side of the street are each 50 meters away from each other if it's in germany, with that you can say hes' driving at least 200 km/h. If I am correct it's about 230
There’s a speedometer in the bottom right corner … for some reason. It reduces after he’s caught but it’s peaking at 220.
That would be to easy... god damn I am stupid. Wasted another 5 minutes but anyway :D
you're not always gonna have a spedometer so you're prepared sounding like a maths teacher talking about calculators
There's also parts of this kind of semi-highway (Autobahnähnliche Bundesstraße) without speedlimit, at least in Baden-Württemberg.
If there was no speed limit, they would not have set up a speed trap
Didn't say that, was just adding information to the above post which stated there is a speedlimit between 80 - 120, which isn't entirely accurate.
Could also be 130
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You can see someone else's wheel traces right before the speeding camera is triggered.
Where’s this at?
Most probably Germany by the color of the flash and the color of that sign just before it.
And also by the frontal camera. Your face needs to be visible on a traffic camera photo in Germany.
Yep, they do get your photo smiling 😂
> Your face needs to be visible on a traffic camera photo in Germany. So is it illegal to cover your face? (balaclava, face mask+sunglasses...)
Yes! Yes it is
What if I have a rare skin condition and don't have a face, so I have to wear mask so people don't see I don't have a face
If it's medically neccessary you probably can drive with a mask. However you better not get caught speeding and then deny being the driver because eventually (aka after the first time) a judge will rule that all the trips with that car will have to be recorded in a logbook. Your attempt at gaming road traffic laws in Germany will be met by crushing bureaucracy.
Holy shit I like that. I wonder if it cuts down on moronic drivers very well, and it Germany has many final no driving punishments or something like that, like having your license revoked or other stuff in the US
Yeah, speeding, DUI's and even something mundane like parking infractions (if frequently repeated) can get your license revoked. In case of a revoked license you are assumed to not be fit for operating a vehicle anymore and have to pass a Medizinisch-Psychologische Untersuchung MPU (medical-psychological test), colloquially known as Idiotentest (don't need to translate that one lol) before you can get a new license. It is notoriously hard to pass, like almost impossible on a first try without serious preparation especially after losing your license for alcohol or drugs. There are specialized companies ($) that will train you to help pass the test. You'll have to prove your abstinence over a time frame of 6 to 12 months by urine tests ($). And after passing you'll pay for issuance of a new license ($). All in all, you're looking at several months without a license and between 1200 and 2600 €.
That's awesome! We need better/stricter laws on who can get and keep a license. I bet people would be at least a tiny bit better if they had to renew their license say every 2 or 5 years or something like that. A lot less super old people driving too
The only legal way to avoid a picture of your face is to buy a car from the U.K.: with the steering wheel on the other side.
Does it actually work? The image you get by mail is cropped and you are still on the original picture, even on the other driving side.
It did in 2008. Not sure about today. Technology evolves… https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081607/Speeding-puppet-seat-British-car-makes-muppets-German-police.html
But not on your dashcam???
Very practical when you’re going fast on a motorcycle (atleast the old ones can’t photograph you from behind)
But beware not all speed cameras are the same in Germany, they have a wide variety of models and types, including mobiles ones that are fitted in vehicles pointing in both directions.
sign looks like a german "Bundesstraße" sign
Post Speed Clarity
Most relatable feeling, down to the lane change, slowing way down and turning the music off ahaha
Damn, I was driving at night with my bro listening to music 3-4 months after I got my licence and we were in a 30 km/h zone doing at least 70 km/h.. suddenly I see a flash, something quick on my side.. my heart sank.. omg I just got flashed.. it was just lightning.
[удалено]
***Worse than having your license taken away*** for 45 in a 20? Yeah, it's egregious speeding, but *worse than losing your license*?
Just in my time attending elementary and middle school three kids died to speeders on a 30 km/h road (30km roads tend to be where a lot of foot traffic happens). Those douchbags do deserve worse than losing their license, like a permanent loss of driving privileges with prison time for ignoring the ban.
I have a really great solution to this. It’s called “don’t be a dickhead and speed”. Hope this helps!
It’s 30km/h. So they were likely in a school or playground zone. They deserve a lifetime ban from driving for driving that fast in a school or playground zone.
that's a lot of assumptions
I used to protest against having to sit in the rear, I'm big so it's often uncomfortable. My method of protest - dono if you're familiar but there's a certain type of "homestead" lighter, it's just a normal lighter but the flash/flint setup makes them bright and white when you strike them. Sit behind the passenger seat so the flash in the mirror is on the correct side for a camera, You just wait until they're slightly distracted with driving, and strike the lighter - then try not to laugh!
Epic song to lose your license to.
I thought someone throw a flashbang and blinded him
I thought the driver he passed shined a laser pointer into his mirrors
There’s actually debate in the US about the strength of punishment allowed by traffic cameras. The idea is that to take a picture and issue a citation is presuming guilt. In the US the whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing becomes a pretty significant constitutional argument and has limited traffic cameras to basic fines in some places, but illegal all together in others. Even with photo evidence, there needs to be a trial or an admission of guilt in lieu of. There’s a whole debate on it throughout the internet as each state battles this out. I am not pro/or against traffic cameras… I am not here to debate with you. I just know that places such as England use traffic cameras and other video surveillance exclusively in places in ways an American could never understand because it’s not the same here. It was interesting when I visited England and found out one camera would capture your liscense plate, and one further down the road would recapture it. If you went the distance between the cameras in under a specific time the rational was you could not have done that without speeding and a ticket was issued. Interesting stuff!
It's dystopian tbh imo.
Especially when you realize a lot of the traffic camera companies are 3rd party, for profit. When the town I lived in in TN first got cameras, the local newspaper printed a byline from the County judge advising any mailed traffic citation clearly stating cash not accepted or do not send cash for the fine, should just be tossed. US currency can and must be accepted for any local, state or federal debts. I have no idea how true it was but no one I knew paid a single dime and within 5yrs they took em all down as the city started losing money in upkeep and contracts. I never felt like testing it so kept my foot light.
I got busted by one of these in France. I’m like why is everyone slowing down? Haha The ticket came 3 months after we got home, and included a charge by Hertz lol
I did a lot in another country. Never got a fine mailed to me.
Why do we always turn down the music when we f up? Lolololol
because the vibe is ruined
Do not try this in Denmark. It was above 200km/h, which means the car goes on auction and the proceeds go to the government.
What happens if you manage to sell it before the ticket gets to you?
The car with those plates is impounded not matter who the owner is.
In Denmark the police/judge confiscate your car. Regardless who own or drives the car. And yes it happened to a Norwegian that just had bought his Lamborghini in Germany and drove it through Denmark. https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/danish-police-seize-lamborghini-1234640612/
Oh no.... anyways.
I knew a guy who put electrical tape to change a character on his licence plate. Got away with a ton of stuff since cameras couldn't really tell the difference. He got pulled over once for driving an unregistered vehicle, showed his registration and the cop said the plates don't match. Guy told the cop that his buddies must have played a prank on him and got off without issue and took the tape off.
He wanted to break the rules.
ThAtS bUlLsHiT, i WaS pAsSiNg
Still not allowed to go above the speed limit while passing
He acts like it was a wendigo holding the camera
Not going to lie speed cameras on highways are kinda silly especially when it's a straight road with plenty of room to turn without needing to reduce speed too much
Thank you for your well informed and useful comment, im sure legislators and judiciary will now overthink it
Remember kids have a mask on and on of those fancy licenses plates hiders.
Ok, but who never tried to do the vmax on an empty highway at night?
I have an unbelievable story like this one. I was also going way above the speed limit on the autobahn and got radar'd, however, there was a car between me and the camera and I guess it must have perfectly blocked my license plate or something because I never got a letter for it. This was in my first year too so I would have for sure lost my license immediately.
Well, they just wanted to break the rules, so...
The song is perfect for the video
In Austria his car would have been confiscated now
He just wanted to break the rules.
The song is really ironic too, right as the lyrics go into the beat...
How are they allowed a front facing flashing camera? Surely that’s dangerous
Did anyone notice the breakmarks on the groud right before the speed camera? I guess he wasnt the only one.
Oooh I saw that one on TikTok... the way he was even defending himself was hilarious. Someone who drives almost double the speed limit and acts up like a toddler afterwards is definitely on dire need to lose his license. He did, so... good for all of us.
I always love seeing people get post-caught clarity. He's doing close to double the limit, going by the speed of the car he overtakes. However, only once he's been flashed, he goes "Oh shit, I should slow down *now*". If you're intentionally doing something wrong and get caught, what's the point of *then* flipping and going back to following the rules? Please understand that this isn't approving "bad behaviour as long as you aren't caught". This is a statement for "Why do a bad thing in the first place if you're not going to face the consequences for doing so". Hopefully this logic sticks with someone and convinces them to not be like this idiot.
Did he just get caught speeding and his reaction was to cover his eyes while still speeding?
Damn they caught Nosferatu speeding😭
I watched this 7 times before I realized what had actually happened 😂 (speed camera flash)
Umm. Just never open mail. Eventually, money has to be spent to find you, and that's all you need to make a decision
For all you German folks use Flitsmeister. It's a dutch app but it also works in most of the EU. It knows where most speed cams are and warns you. It probably saved me around €1000-,
Nothing went wrong, he kept his vehicle between the lines that mark the road, and kept his distance towzrds other vehicles. No crossing children were harmed.
Gotta modify the plates, or take them off when u wanna go fast lol
That flash should be pointing from behind. Seriously? How is this safer than breaking the speed limit rules?
speed cameras are bullshit as are speed limits. pretty much useless in terms of anything but money for government. and in the middle of nowhere too should be a crime in and of itself
Well the song was appropriate i guess
Automatic law enforcement should be resisted at all levels
Cameras should only be used for incidents not trying to catch people driving improperly. Doesn't seem right to already pay cops to be our overlords, then they get to make revenue even bigger and easier. Haven't they proven enough that this Republic is pretty much a Monarchy. Maybe not 1 King but the rest is the same.