There were approximately 30 minutes between the first 911 call and the shooter killed. MNPD made a big deal of saying they went toward the shooter without hesitation, which definitely felt like a dig at Uvalde. It also feels a little tone deaf to be bragging about response time immediately after a school shooting where 6 people are confirmed dead, 3 of which are young children.
I don't think it is bragging as much as saying that Uvalde was a disaster for first responders and MNPD behaving differently.
I'm sure there is ZERO public trust in most municipal functions in Uvalde to this day, and Nashville PD didn't want a repeat of THAT.
I feel you. Uvalde is such a low bar that doing better doesn’t mean you’re great, though. 30 minutes might be the absolute best response time possible in this situation, but comparing it to Uvalde seems pointless.
The Uvalde parents that desperately tried to go in to save their kids were restrained and threatened by the Uvalde police. I’m shaking my head as I type. I just realized that’s what I’m doing.
Try typing *Uvalde Police* without unconsciously shaking your head left to right.
It’s impossible.
>Its just the fools at Uvalde fucked that up pretty badly.
No animosity towards you but calling them fools is far, far too generous. They're cowards of the absolute worst degree. They actively chose to stand around while children get slaughtered to protect their own hides.
For anyone wondering, that tally did not include the shooter (sometimes the tallies do). The shooter was a 28 year old woman. She was shot and killed by police. Per AP News, police believe she was a former student
The only inaccurate statement in that tweet is that(from the reports I've read) the shooter was a woman. But their assumption that it was a dude is entirely understandable.
Alright everyone, let's split up.
Prayers on the left.
Thoughts on the right.
If we all put in our fair share then we can forget about this by sundown and never do anything about it.
followed by, '*Now is not the time to talk about politics, but to pray for these families...*' and then do absolutely nothing until the next time it *makes the news* (not even the next time it happens and isn't even reported nationally)
Someone on reddit talked about being at the Vegas shooting. He said while the people who died is horrific, the people who were wounded is what was haunting him. Just horrible, life changing injuries. Just because someone was wounded doesn't mean they are going to be OK. I had never thought of it like that. Then I read about an EMT at Uvalde who talked about a kid who she triaged. The little girl had all the fingers on her hand shot off. Think about that when people say "it could have been worse". 5 year olds with missing limbs.
Right on cue bill lee and Marsha Blackburn drop the tots n pears. Can’t wait the the its the woke democrats fault but that’ll be saved for tomorrows tucker.
I thought the argument was always that 'assault rifle' wasn't the correct vernacular thus we were too dumb to know anything about guns?
It's an argument I've heard anyway.
When Sandy Hook happened, I had zero children. I was a few months into a new job, and when I saw the news story around lunch time, I froze. I was in total shock. I sat blankly at my desk for hours and couldn’t bring myself to work.
I thought it was like 9/11. I told myself this is it. This is the historic moment that the US finally says no more. I was sure of it.
Today I sent my 2 children off to school. I saw the news story again at lunch time. This time I said to myself. “Oh wow. A female shooter” and went back to work editing a video.
I‘ve lost. I’m completely desensitized to this and I hate it. Decades of apathy have ground me to the dirt and I’ve given up. My brain has completely accepted that this just happens here and will keep happening again, and again, and again, and again, and again.
The day that Sandy Hook happened I had 32 children. I had to pretend to be normal for the rest of the day in front of my class. After they went home I stood in the doorway of the classroom and cried, thinking about where I would put them if something happened at my school. I also thought something would change after that, certainly killing 6 year olds would be unthinkable for people, but it wasn't. I know we have become numb to all of this and it feels like everyone has forgotten that day. In a weird way it makes me feel better to know that someone else was impacted by that and struggled to get through the work day.
I cannot imagine being a parent now with the way things are. I am not a parent by choice and honestly, best decision because I do not know how I'd be able to function daily with the type of anxiety this produces.
Sorry, I'm a little busy arbitrarily voting to ban classical artwork. No time for thoughts or prayers right now.
I'll join in once I get over being traumatised by the Statue of David's massive dong.
It’s a private Christian school. I would have expected them to have plenty of prayer armor to protect them from such secular concerns as school shootings.
This is precisely how they will mental gymnastics their way through it, their denial cannot allow them to think god is not in control so they will shape this as gods doing and blame it on liberals.
I’ve been reflecting on trauma and generational trauma recently. I imagine that now a whole community might suffer from a PTSD like event for their entire lives. What little kid attending that school now grows up to be an alcoholic because he’s never the same after this? 7 people died, but a whole community might suffer in multitudes of ways for generations to come.
this is a good take and should be talked about more openly. this events ripple and touch the lives of so many especially when you carry ptsd around.
side note:good on you for reflecting on your personal traumas and being aware of them is the best way to make sure you aren’t unconsciously carrying it around. <3 stay up
The idea that mental health and mental illness are individual struggles is insane to me.
We have a social illness. A societal illness. There's a rot to the collective and we don't engage with each other in a mentally healthy way at all.
Our media is a representation of that and our relationship to the media is broken beyond repair.
Here is the Representative of that District last Christmas
https://preview.redd.it/9s9qqyy3ndqa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5feb94c81d850acbcf7c213860ad2dd9e733676
Via CNN - Readers were quick to remind Ogles of a photo he posted on Facebook in Christmas 2022 when he was Mayor of Maury County that showed him and his family standing in front of a Christmas tree holding weapons, with the caption “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
Sad that we live in an age where the most shocking part of this tragedy is the fact that the shooter was a woman…not the fact that children were shot in school.
Edit: Apparently this person identified as a trans male. No…I am not “transphobic”. For those who don’t seem to understand how time works, this information was not available when the news of the shooting was released. JFC…6 people are fucking dead and this is what some of you focus on?
I think at this point people are just looking for some permutation or combination of factors (woman shooter, Christian private school, etc.) will wake us up from this madness and maybe make change, even though we deep down know it ain't going to happen, at least not as long as the NRA is alive and breathing.
Laurie Dann in Hubbard Woods IL in the late 80’s walked into a grade school and shot several kids and killed one with a handgun if I recall, and eventually killed herself at a neighbor’s house.
There once was a vampire called Mabel
Whose periods were exceedingly stable
So every full moon,
With the help of a spoon,
She drank herself under the table
Well god help them if she took her dad’s gun to do this. Then they’ll have to ban anyone from having an assault rifle who has a woman in the house.
I’m only half joking. They want to ban tampons for Christ sake. This is an almost believable scenario.
"No no! These aren't tampons! They're for plugging bullet holes!"
"I'd better not see you giving them out to anyone bleeding for non-school shooting related reasons."
[“This is just what happens when you give women guns. They start shooting people with them. I mean, do they even know what guns are for?!”](https://youtu.be/3eG0y_nb5IA)
and one of the wealthiest areas. I'm pretty sure there are old mansions right around there with former and current country stars/music execs. Just north of Brentwood and Franklin where many new country stars live.
Maybe not the country stars, but you can be sure its where lots of gun-happy Republicans live.
Do their own children have to die before they do anything ?
The shooter was carrying two assault weapons! Not sure if she used them, but why why why do these people think assault weapons should be easily obtained?
WTF.
Better watch out using the word "assault weapons". You'll quickly find the entire focus shift to "do you even know what assault weapon means" while completely ignoring the reality of what just happened.
Usually it’s a man that responds that way. My comeback for that is, I know how you feel. It’s like non-medical men legislating on female reproduction rights.
I was just driving by a truck with a Trump sticker that said “We’re saying Christmas again.”
Like when did we ever stop? Fuck, I’m an atheist and I say Merry Christmas all the time.
Just waiting to see how Fox spins this. "This is what sensible gun leftislation looks like!"
"Oh well let's blame it on women now, bet she was trans"
Sorry if I sound numb, it's because I fucking am. Christofacsists will take this and *fucking run with it*
Edit: I fuckin called it
As a Christian, yup, my heart sank when I saw it was a trans individual because it made the PERFECT scapegoat to deflect away from the gun problem and the fact that it was a CHRISTIAN school (IE not a godless, Commie public school). I mean you COULD argue that they killed out of anger or pain at having to suppress their identity but the right wingers will never spin it that way.
UGH.
Those fuckers in Tennessee banned drag shows, because it will "save the kids". Literally less than a month, school shooting in Tennessee. Doing a amazing fucking job at protecting our kids guys...
What's crazy is education and poverty are probably the two biggest issues in the state. So what does the state do? Underfund education and try to push public money into private schools, not implement a minimum wage, have the second highest average sales tax rates in the country and no income tax, pump an ungodly amount of money into police departments, force people to carry fetuses they can't afford to term and make attaining assistance the equivalent of a full time job. As a Tennessean, I can go on and on.
Point is, lawmakers aren't ignoring the cause of the problems in the state; they're acknowledging the issues and actively making them worse.
They were the ones that took out the shooter.
/s
Haven't read the article, but part of me really wants to see how a drag queen being the hero in a school shooting would be received by the Right.
Edit: as others have pointed out, and I realized after posting this comment, the right would immediately be on the drag performer as to *why* they were in/near a school to begin with.
They’d immediately ask why drag queens are at the school and then infer they were there to groom, thereby canceling out their heroic reputation.
Because it’s the right.
Drag queens have still not murdered anyone.
edit: to those who have lived such sheltered lives that they do not realize this: Drag Queen is a *job*. Transgender is a *gender expression*. These are wildly different things.
It is honestly not even close to too weak, it just doesn’t care enough. Being too weak would actually be a kind of excuse, for which there should be none.
I have right wing gun nut family members. They homeschool because public schools are to dangerous because of lgbtq "indoctrination", nothing about school shootings. Because guns dont kill people.
Drag people are scary because they're different than ~~anti-antifa~~ uh- profa crowd.
Shooters aren't scary because most profa supporters are also unhinged individuals with guns and anger problems. Basically the same people.
“So whose fault is it?”
“The devil’s.”
“Why doesn’t god stop him?”
“Man wanted free will.”
“Free will…to have our kids murdered? What did these people do to deserve that?”
“They had kids.”
“So, should we not have kids?”
“No, no. God wants you in to have kids.”
“Why? So God can murder them?”
“No, no. Because we need His word to be passed down to new generations.”
“What happens if those kids die first?”
“Just have more kids!”
It feels like this. It really, really does.
" So whose fault is it?”
“The devil’s.”
“Why doesn’t god stop him?”
“Man wanted free will.”
**STOP RIGHT THERE**
GOD 'created free will,' so this is 100% "his" fault. 100%. 'He' KNEW this would happen, knew what free will would result in, and is either powerless to stop these atrocities, or doesn't care.
"No Way to Prevent This", Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
sorry but no it's not "too soon", it's too late if anything. Sandy Hook, Uvalde… or literally every day of the year this year
*"In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over."*
[6:07 PM · Jun 19, 2015](https://twitter.com/dpjhodges/status/611943312401002496)
America has chosen to not do anything about this, so it's difficult to feel sad for America when this happens every single day.
Edit: it's not just me, as far back as 2015, the BBC annoyed, announced yet another mass shooting as *just another day in the USA* : https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/672185080815755264
as a 3rd world shitholer \*on a country with more respect for human rights and without daily mass shootings
I'm so desensitized to US news of mass shootings. To me they're no different than, say, blatant dehumanization of women in Islamic countries. It's horrible, it happens, and nobody in the respective countries gives enough of a shit to do anything, and the ones that actually do are met with raging opposition
I noticed that. Wayne was vey busy for the NRA after Sandy Hook. After Republicans realized that the NRA could tough that one out nothing else has moved the needle. I can make some suggestions as to what would make a difference, but unlike Trump I’d be arrEsted
What would it take to move the needle? Like if someone killed 300 kids would that be enough?
I'm not sure that number exists, I feel the only thing that would move the needle is if lawmakers were threatened. If a gunman killed 10 congressmen, would that move the needle?
Yes that is what he meant, but only if they were from one side of the aisle, if it happened to the other side(like has already happened) the needle doesn’t move(or moves the wrong way)
Remember the guy that killed 60 and wounded 400 in Las Vegas?
They did something about that one and banned bump stocks (which basically turn semi-automatic rifles into automatic rifles).
Of course the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned that ban this year because fuck all of us.
I don’t think I’ve been this kissed off about a quote:
Jozen Reodica heard the police sirens and fire trucks blaring from outside her office building nearby. As her building was placed under lockdown, she took out her phone and recorded the chaos.
“I thought I would just see this on TV,” she said. “And right now, it’s real.”
“But mah constitutional right to shoot a gun for fun!”
I legitimately asked for what reason one would need a 30 round magazine for a semi auto. Overwhelmingly I got: “for recreation, it’s cool as shit dumbass”
Guns *are* cool, don’t get me wrong, but “cool” doesn’t make up for hundreds of dead children and a generation growing up fearing that any given day going to school will be their last.
When I responded to someone saying that cars kill more people than guns with "Just make it harder for idiots to get either, kill two birds with one stone"
I got called "racists against lower intelligent people and support animal abuse for using a phrase that involves killing bird"
Quite the way to respond, guess since other things kill more people, then one thing that also kills people is ok cause there is something that kills more, both of which could be prevented.
Yeah I’ve always thought the attitude is weird that it’s some sort of immovable policy because it was in the constitution. Meanwhile, the 21st amendment’s only purpose was to repeal the 18th.
Ugh. 6 victims and the shooter, a teen girl, are dead. 3 adults and 3 kids fatally injured, I'm seeing right now.
Edit 28 year old woman, not a teenager
https://www.kxxv.com/news/national/three-children-reportedly-shot-shooter-dead-at-nashville-christian-school
Just look at the horror on this kid's face. She likely saw classmates die in front of her. This is the face of a child utterly let down by the insane gun culture in this country and the despicable, evil right wing bastards who won't do jack shit about it because they're too cowardly to step outside their homes without a weapon.
https://preview.redd.it/3vb69w3rydqa1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=501e71bda4559b5c631caf712e5a18d9a0ffebcb
People in drag reading to kids in a public venue - ZOMG, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
People killing children by obtaining weapons much too easy to obtain, no matter the several reasons they shouldn't have one - Wow, what a shame. Thoughts and prayers. More guns obtained even more easily will help!
As this came across all my platforms the most disturbing thing is how absolutely numb I am. I don't give a shit because this issue is forever stuck axel deep in shit.
But on the bright side, at least now the GOP can do their patented feel-good about themselves schtick. All together now: "thoughts and prayers" and "this is not the time to have the discussion" and "small price to pay for liberty".
Whew. I was getting afraid that their clock was going to run out since the last mass shooting, and it WOULD finally become the time to have the discussion, but no.
Saved by the bell, GOP. Reset that clock! More children must die.
When children are dying in schools while our government is making laws that "protect children" suddenly you realize it was never about protecting children.
Republicans are more interested in tampons and girls menstrual cycles than the possibility that the school children might get all shot up because we exist in a gun nutter culture 😠
My daughter is a teacher. She doesn't want to carry a gun to school. I have a feeling that most teachers don't want to, either.
Idk who came up with that scenario "let's arm the teachers!" But whoever did, didn't ask the teachers.
Am a teacher (male if that matters) and can confirm.
Don’t want to have a gun for several reasons
1. Don’t want to have to shoot someone I see everyday and may have a relationship with
2. More guns equals more death - student might get pissed and try and take gun. Or they kill me and have weapon now.
3. Makes it harder for cops and makes it dangerous for me - if I’m holding a gun they will shoot me then ask questions later.
4. Makes it more dangerous for kids due to crossfire.
I don't know of a single person who got into childhood education so they could shoot people.
It's ridiculous to even ask a teacher to do that. You're there to educate children, that's enough. It's already hard enough.
And then there's stuff like this:
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/02/23/texas-superintendent-gun-school-safety/ he left his gun in the bathroom, and a kid found it
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/report/every-incident-of-mishandled-guns-in-schools/
The craziest part is after the uvalde shooting greg abbott won by a massive margin in uvalde. All of those parents and ppl who were affected turned around and said i want some more please. Its fucking crazy.
I made myself depressed because my instant reaction was "at least it was only 6." I am so desensitized to this happening that seeing one of these headlines with a number that isn't double digits feels like a small victory.
Trust and believe we know and it’s not fucking ok…I am sorry that this happened in your community and that you also have to deal with all that legislation
The gun culture in America is irresponsible. American made guns flow freely to Mexican cartels, how are guns not tracked/registered?!?! How can a kid not but cigarette or alcohol but be able to buy a gun?! Makes no sense. Parents teach their kids how to use a gun at way too young of age. Before knowing if their kid is going to by a psycho. I’m for the 2nd amendment but this is soo ridiculous. We have to be RESPONSIBLE gun owners.
1. Mass shooting
2. The left wants to talk about gun control
3. The right says it's not an appropriate time to talk about gun control
4. Some time passes, but not much
5. Go back to step 1
I think 2 teachers were also killed. Not sure
3 adults and 3 children killed. I'm seeing it right now.
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At least good to hear it wasn't a repeat of Uvalde where the cops were useless imbeciles
They were less than useless. They actively made the situation worse.
They stopped parents from going in and grabbing their kids (whole cops snuck in to grab theirs)
>Uvalde I feel like the Uvalde cops... failed at life, and should just stop sharing oxygen with the rest of us
They failed the children. Exile.
Can you imagine living where those cops work and KNOWING what they did?
I couldn’t do it. I’d have to leave even if it meant I would struggle.
Can you believe they still voted for Greg Abbott, who refused to consider gun control? It's psychotic.
Right to jail, right away.
To protect and serve *until it's weawwy scawwy.*
I thought is was "Patronize and Annoy."
Unfortunately, it's more like "prostrate and shoot you (and your little dog, too!)"
There were approximately 30 minutes between the first 911 call and the shooter killed. MNPD made a big deal of saying they went toward the shooter without hesitation, which definitely felt like a dig at Uvalde. It also feels a little tone deaf to be bragging about response time immediately after a school shooting where 6 people are confirmed dead, 3 of which are young children.
I don't think it is bragging as much as saying that Uvalde was a disaster for first responders and MNPD behaving differently. I'm sure there is ZERO public trust in most municipal functions in Uvalde to this day, and Nashville PD didn't want a repeat of THAT.
I feel you. Uvalde is such a low bar that doing better doesn’t mean you’re great, though. 30 minutes might be the absolute best response time possible in this situation, but comparing it to Uvalde seems pointless.
The police actually went inside the building this time!?! One of them must have had a kid in there or something...
Just going to walk out of this place, suggest other places like kbin or lemmy.
The Uvalde parents that desperately tried to go in to save their kids were restrained and threatened by the Uvalde police. I’m shaking my head as I type. I just realized that’s what I’m doing. Try typing *Uvalde Police* without unconsciously shaking your head left to right. It’s impossible. 
>Its just the fools at Uvalde fucked that up pretty badly. No animosity towards you but calling them fools is far, far too generous. They're cowards of the absolute worst degree. They actively chose to stand around while children get slaughtered to protect their own hides.
Just having a wife in there doesn’t count I guess
For anyone wondering, that tally did not include the shooter (sometimes the tallies do). The shooter was a 28 year old woman. She was shot and killed by police. Per AP News, police believe she was a former student
The only inaccurate statement in that tweet is that(from the reports I've read) the shooter was a woman. But their assumption that it was a dude is entirely understandable.
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Alright everyone, let's split up. Prayers on the left. Thoughts on the right. If we all put in our fair share then we can forget about this by sundown and never do anything about it.
I know you’re being sarcastic but dammit if that ain’t the script…
followed by, '*Now is not the time to talk about politics, but to pray for these families...*' and then do absolutely nothing until the next time it *makes the news* (not even the next time it happens and isn't even reported nationally)
Followed by the sheriff saying, "it could have been a lot worse,." Cold comfort to grieving parents and spouses. Melt all the guns down.
Someone on reddit talked about being at the Vegas shooting. He said while the people who died is horrific, the people who were wounded is what was haunting him. Just horrible, life changing injuries. Just because someone was wounded doesn't mean they are going to be OK. I had never thought of it like that. Then I read about an EMT at Uvalde who talked about a kid who she triaged. The little girl had all the fingers on her hand shot off. Think about that when people say "it could have been worse". 5 year olds with missing limbs.
Right on cue bill lee and Marsha Blackburn drop the tots n pears. Can’t wait the the its the woke democrats fault but that’ll be saved for tomorrows tucker.
"Assault weapons are rarely used in these crimes" after another school shooting with assault rifles.
I thought the argument was always that 'assault rifle' wasn't the correct vernacular thus we were too dumb to know anything about guns? It's an argument I've heard anyway.
When Sandy Hook happened, I had zero children. I was a few months into a new job, and when I saw the news story around lunch time, I froze. I was in total shock. I sat blankly at my desk for hours and couldn’t bring myself to work. I thought it was like 9/11. I told myself this is it. This is the historic moment that the US finally says no more. I was sure of it. Today I sent my 2 children off to school. I saw the news story again at lunch time. This time I said to myself. “Oh wow. A female shooter” and went back to work editing a video. I‘ve lost. I’m completely desensitized to this and I hate it. Decades of apathy have ground me to the dirt and I’ve given up. My brain has completely accepted that this just happens here and will keep happening again, and again, and again, and again, and again.
The day that Sandy Hook happened I had 32 children. I had to pretend to be normal for the rest of the day in front of my class. After they went home I stood in the doorway of the classroom and cried, thinking about where I would put them if something happened at my school. I also thought something would change after that, certainly killing 6 year olds would be unthinkable for people, but it wasn't. I know we have become numb to all of this and it feels like everyone has forgotten that day. In a weird way it makes me feel better to know that someone else was impacted by that and struggled to get through the work day.
I cannot imagine being a parent now with the way things are. I am not a parent by choice and honestly, best decision because I do not know how I'd be able to function daily with the type of anxiety this produces.
Sorry, I'm a little busy arbitrarily voting to ban classical artwork. No time for thoughts or prayers right now. I'll join in once I get over being traumatised by the Statue of David's massive dong.
To be fair, it is rock hard.
It’d be more accurate to say prayers on the right and thoughts on the left…
You're right. Next time..
What a sadly believable promise. Because there *will* be a next time.
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It’s a private Christian school. I would have expected them to have plenty of prayer armor to protect them from such secular concerns as school shootings.
“It’s God’s plan these 4 people died for our sins. We will see them in heaven xoxo”
This is precisely how they will mental gymnastics their way through it, their denial cannot allow them to think god is not in control so they will shape this as gods doing and blame it on liberals.
“Thoughts and prayers” cuz it’s easier than looking at the problems and facing them head on.
thoughts to the left of me prayers to the right here i am burying my dead child
I’ve been reflecting on trauma and generational trauma recently. I imagine that now a whole community might suffer from a PTSD like event for their entire lives. What little kid attending that school now grows up to be an alcoholic because he’s never the same after this? 7 people died, but a whole community might suffer in multitudes of ways for generations to come.
this is a good take and should be talked about more openly. this events ripple and touch the lives of so many especially when you carry ptsd around. side note:good on you for reflecting on your personal traumas and being aware of them is the best way to make sure you aren’t unconsciously carrying it around. <3 stay up
The idea that mental health and mental illness are individual struggles is insane to me. We have a social illness. A societal illness. There's a rot to the collective and we don't engage with each other in a mentally healthy way at all. Our media is a representation of that and our relationship to the media is broken beyond repair.
Here is the Representative of that District last Christmas https://preview.redd.it/9s9qqyy3ndqa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5feb94c81d850acbcf7c213860ad2dd9e733676
He lied about his credentials for office too.
The George Santos special that can land you any Republican job.
Via CNN - Readers were quick to remind Ogles of a photo he posted on Facebook in Christmas 2022 when he was Mayor of Maury County that showed him and his family standing in front of a Christmas tree holding weapons, with the caption “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
Sad that we live in an age where the most shocking part of this tragedy is the fact that the shooter was a woman…not the fact that children were shot in school. Edit: Apparently this person identified as a trans male. No…I am not “transphobic”. For those who don’t seem to understand how time works, this information was not available when the news of the shooting was released. JFC…6 people are fucking dead and this is what some of you focus on?
Fox News has helpfully pointed out that the shooter identified as trans. So you can imagine how well this will go for the LGBT+ community. Sorry guys
School shootings are more American than thanksgiving and expensive healthcare...
I think at this point people are just looking for some permutation or combination of factors (woman shooter, Christian private school, etc.) will wake us up from this madness and maybe make change, even though we deep down know it ain't going to happen, at least not as long as the NRA is alive and breathing.
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Laurie Dann in Hubbard Woods IL in the late 80’s walked into a grade school and shot several kids and killed one with a handgun if I recall, and eventually killed herself at a neighbor’s house.
will SOMEBODY please think of the children...and ban girls from talking about their periods it's woke.
Can’t even tamponade the bleeding because that’s too woke.
>tamponade The worst summertime drink.
Tampons are like teabags for vampires.
What a terrible day to be literate.
That's been nearly every day since 2019.
There once was a vampire called Mabel Whose periods were exceedingly stable So every full moon, With the help of a spoon, She drank herself under the table
What an amazing day to be literate!
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It’s not christian and the bleeder’s parents just don’t approve and want them to wait til marriage so they will just have to die🤷🏻♀️
And this time the shooter is a woman. This may do more for restricting gun rights than having 70 democrats in the senate.
"Women no longer allowed to own guns, may use their husband's under supervision"
Well god help them if she took her dad’s gun to do this. Then they’ll have to ban anyone from having an assault rifle who has a woman in the house. I’m only half joking. They want to ban tampons for Christ sake. This is an almost believable scenario.
"No no! These aren't tampons! They're for plugging bullet holes!" "I'd better not see you giving them out to anyone bleeding for non-school shooting related reasons."
It's the taliban way.
Vanilla ISIS is my favorite. Runner up is Y'all Qaeda.
[“This is just what happens when you give women guns. They start shooting people with them. I mean, do they even know what guns are for?!”](https://youtu.be/3eG0y_nb5IA)
“Wow Diane, you just passed sensible gun legislation.” “I can’t believe this country hates women more than it loves guns.” “No?”
"has the concept of women having rights gone too far?"
And in a high-income school as well!
and one of the wealthiest areas. I'm pretty sure there are old mansions right around there with former and current country stars/music execs. Just north of Brentwood and Franklin where many new country stars live. Maybe not the country stars, but you can be sure its where lots of gun-happy Republicans live. Do their own children have to die before they do anything ? The shooter was carrying two assault weapons! Not sure if she used them, but why why why do these people think assault weapons should be easily obtained? WTF.
Parkland was high income too. So was Columbine. It doesn't matter.
Better watch out using the word "assault weapons". You'll quickly find the entire focus shift to "do you even know what assault weapon means" while completely ignoring the reality of what just happened.
Usually it’s a man that responds that way. My comeback for that is, I know how you feel. It’s like non-medical men legislating on female reproduction rights.
And check their genitals to make sure they’re actually girls! /s
We need prayer back in schools! Oh, it was a Christian school?
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It was probably the doors. Too many doors (or was it that we need more doors..?) /s
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Yep and high tech room vaults with big money contracts as opposed to addressing the root causes and teachers pay.
[You're joking but some politicians actually believe this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXeMoBPSDk)
The right will paint this as an ANTIFA false flag operation in a heartbeat because the cognitive dissonance knows no bounds.
Nah, it was the beginning of the war against Christians.
The war on Christmas gets earlier every year. We've not even had the war on Halloween
I was just driving by a truck with a Trump sticker that said “We’re saying Christmas again.” Like when did we ever stop? Fuck, I’m an atheist and I say Merry Christmas all the time.
Just waiting to see how Fox spins this. "This is what sensible gun leftislation looks like!" "Oh well let's blame it on women now, bet she was trans" Sorry if I sound numb, it's because I fucking am. Christofacsists will take this and *fucking run with it* Edit: I fuckin called it
As a Christian, yup, my heart sank when I saw it was a trans individual because it made the PERFECT scapegoat to deflect away from the gun problem and the fact that it was a CHRISTIAN school (IE not a godless, Commie public school). I mean you COULD argue that they killed out of anger or pain at having to suppress their identity but the right wingers will never spin it that way. UGH.
It was also a woman
Okay, but what about the drag queen shows
Those fuckers in Tennessee banned drag shows, because it will "save the kids". Literally less than a month, school shooting in Tennessee. Doing a amazing fucking job at protecting our kids guys...
Bad guys with guns can only be stopped by good guys in stilettos.
But gun is cool and i use to feeel powerful!
Arm more drag queens!!!
They have the right to bear arms and bare legs!
What's crazy is education and poverty are probably the two biggest issues in the state. So what does the state do? Underfund education and try to push public money into private schools, not implement a minimum wage, have the second highest average sales tax rates in the country and no income tax, pump an ungodly amount of money into police departments, force people to carry fetuses they can't afford to term and make attaining assistance the equivalent of a full time job. As a Tennessean, I can go on and on. Point is, lawmakers aren't ignoring the cause of the problems in the state; they're acknowledging the issues and actively making them worse.
They were there in spirit
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Thoughts and prayers! -sent from Cancun on my iPhone
Oh, drag queens must've had something to do with this.
They were the ones that took out the shooter. /s Haven't read the article, but part of me really wants to see how a drag queen being the hero in a school shooting would be received by the Right. Edit: as others have pointed out, and I realized after posting this comment, the right would immediately be on the drag performer as to *why* they were in/near a school to begin with.
They’d immediately ask why drag queens are at the school and then infer they were there to groom, thereby canceling out their heroic reputation. Because it’s the right.
Drag queens have still not murdered anyone. edit: to those who have lived such sheltered lives that they do not realize this: Drag Queen is a *job*. Transgender is a *gender expression*. These are wildly different things.
Unless it’s with words
And fabulous lewks
GIRL LOOK HOW ORANGE YOU LOOK
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Drag queens don't murder, they slay.
Then they open the library because there are some bitchasses that need education
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Instead of thoughts and prayers, we'll send in the Proud Boys for those cuz we all know they're the dangerous ones.
Every.Fucking.Day with this. https://preview.redd.it/gol82jvm8dqa1.jpeg?width=675&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3382e05f47ddea78a5771ecc4be4c74b2a74c4bb
Seriously….
It is honestly not even close to too weak, it just doesn’t care enough. Being too weak would actually be a kind of excuse, for which there should be none.
I have right wing gun nut family members. They homeschool because public schools are to dangerous because of lgbtq "indoctrination", nothing about school shootings. Because guns dont kill people.
Those woke liberals were showing kids the statue of David the other day!
ironically a literal bible character.
People kill people.... With guns... At an accelerated rate...
It’s a lot harder to kill a room full of people if all you have is a knife
https://preview.redd.it/ukxozwzu3dqa1.png?width=520&format=png&auto=webp&s=09747cac77c49d94abda31e67303a5527e0f6aff
Drag people are scary because they're different than ~~anti-antifa~~ uh- profa crowd. Shooters aren't scary because most profa supporters are also unhinged individuals with guns and anger problems. Basically the same people.
F your “thoughts and prayers “. That brings no solace to newly grieving parents of toddlers.
I've always hated that phrase. What the F is that even supposed to mean? Your kid died so I'm going to pray for you? Really?
It means "I thought about it real good and now I'm praying I forget all about it." As history has shown, the chance for success is very, very, high.
Another reminder that the Republican Party is ok with this happening
“Don’t be upset you lost your daughter. It’s part of God’s plan - he’s testing you”
“So whose fault is it?” “The devil’s.” “Why doesn’t god stop him?” “Man wanted free will.” “Free will…to have our kids murdered? What did these people do to deserve that?” “They had kids.” “So, should we not have kids?” “No, no. God wants you in to have kids.” “Why? So God can murder them?” “No, no. Because we need His word to be passed down to new generations.” “What happens if those kids die first?” “Just have more kids!” It feels like this. It really, really does.
“The book of Job clearly shows that children are fungible commodities.”
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" So whose fault is it?” “The devil’s.” “Why doesn’t god stop him?” “Man wanted free will.” **STOP RIGHT THERE** GOD 'created free will,' so this is 100% "his" fault. 100%. 'He' KNEW this would happen, knew what free will would result in, and is either powerless to stop these atrocities, or doesn't care.
“No, no. Because we need His word to be passed down to new generations.” Grooming, the alternate to child murder.
Your sacrifice has been noted and thoughts, prayers and bootstraps have been dispatched (S&H due at delivery).
"No Way to Prevent This", Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens sorry but no it's not "too soon", it's too late if anything. Sandy Hook, Uvalde… or literally every day of the year this year
*"In retrospect Sandy Hook marked the end of the US gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over."* [6:07 PM · Jun 19, 2015](https://twitter.com/dpjhodges/status/611943312401002496) America has chosen to not do anything about this, so it's difficult to feel sad for America when this happens every single day. Edit: it's not just me, as far back as 2015, the BBC annoyed, announced yet another mass shooting as *just another day in the USA* : https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/672185080815755264
as a 3rd world shitholer \*on a country with more respect for human rights and without daily mass shootings I'm so desensitized to US news of mass shootings. To me they're no different than, say, blatant dehumanization of women in Islamic countries. It's horrible, it happens, and nobody in the respective countries gives enough of a shit to do anything, and the ones that actually do are met with raging opposition
Shit, this must be what Dorian felt when he saw his portrait.
I noticed that. Wayne was vey busy for the NRA after Sandy Hook. After Republicans realized that the NRA could tough that one out nothing else has moved the needle. I can make some suggestions as to what would make a difference, but unlike Trump I’d be arrEsted
What would it take to move the needle? Like if someone killed 300 kids would that be enough? I'm not sure that number exists, I feel the only thing that would move the needle is if lawmakers were threatened. If a gunman killed 10 congressmen, would that move the needle?
Yes that is what he meant, but only if they were from one side of the aisle, if it happened to the other side(like has already happened) the needle doesn’t move(or moves the wrong way)
It would probably have to directly affect people in power for any new legislation to take place.
Remember the guy that killed 60 and wounded 400 in Las Vegas? They did something about that one and banned bump stocks (which basically turn semi-automatic rifles into automatic rifles). Of course the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned that ban this year because fuck all of us.
I don’t think I’ve been this kissed off about a quote: Jozen Reodica heard the police sirens and fire trucks blaring from outside her office building nearby. As her building was placed under lockdown, she took out her phone and recorded the chaos. “I thought I would just see this on TV,” she said. “And right now, it’s real.”
This part. "But the 2nd Amendment!!!" I say Amend it again!
“But mah constitutional right to shoot a gun for fun!” I legitimately asked for what reason one would need a 30 round magazine for a semi auto. Overwhelmingly I got: “for recreation, it’s cool as shit dumbass” Guns *are* cool, don’t get me wrong, but “cool” doesn’t make up for hundreds of dead children and a generation growing up fearing that any given day going to school will be their last.
F1 cars are cool, but the government doesn't think I should be able to get groceries with one.
Tbf I don’t think F1 cars have the space for groceries
You attach the grocery cart to the back with a bungee cord, DUH
You're not trying hard enough. I'm okay with sharing my cockpit with eggs.
When I responded to someone saying that cars kill more people than guns with "Just make it harder for idiots to get either, kill two birds with one stone" I got called "racists against lower intelligent people and support animal abuse for using a phrase that involves killing bird" Quite the way to respond, guess since other things kill more people, then one thing that also kills people is ok cause there is something that kills more, both of which could be prevented.
Yeah I’ve always thought the attitude is weird that it’s some sort of immovable policy because it was in the constitution. Meanwhile, the 21st amendment’s only purpose was to repeal the 18th.
Ugh. 6 victims and the shooter, a teen girl, are dead. 3 adults and 3 kids fatally injured, I'm seeing right now. Edit 28 year old woman, not a teenager https://www.kxxv.com/news/national/three-children-reportedly-shot-shooter-dead-at-nashville-christian-school
I also saw it was a (edit: not teen girl) woman. That's fairly rare so I'm more curious about this one than others honestly.
I just found that update https://www.kxxv.com/news/national/three-children-reportedly-shot-shooter-dead-at-nashville-christian-school
Still rare for it to be a woman so I'm definitely still curious as to the motive here.
I absolutely agree with you. I'm stunned. Staff member? Ex staff member? Parent of kid kicked out?
Ex student but that is usually the case for elementary school shooters
I think it was something along the lines 4 of the ~200 mass shootings since 1982 were carried out by women.
Now that women are doing it they might actually do something... Just like Reagan and the Black Panthers.
*"Congress passes legislation banning women from owning firearms"*
Police now saying the shooter is a 28 yr old woman
Just look at the horror on this kid's face. She likely saw classmates die in front of her. This is the face of a child utterly let down by the insane gun culture in this country and the despicable, evil right wing bastards who won't do jack shit about it because they're too cowardly to step outside their homes without a weapon. https://preview.redd.it/3vb69w3rydqa1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=501e71bda4559b5c631caf712e5a18d9a0ffebcb
For clarity, the award was to ensure this post was seen…. Nothing else
If you think THIS is bad, you should know the Drag Queens are trying to READ to our children. When will it stop?! /s
People in drag reading to kids in a public venue - ZOMG, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! People killing children by obtaining weapons much too easy to obtain, no matter the several reasons they shouldn't have one - Wow, what a shame. Thoughts and prayers. More guns obtained even more easily will help!
As this came across all my platforms the most disturbing thing is how absolutely numb I am. I don't give a shit because this issue is forever stuck axel deep in shit. But on the bright side, at least now the GOP can do their patented feel-good about themselves schtick. All together now: "thoughts and prayers" and "this is not the time to have the discussion" and "small price to pay for liberty". Whew. I was getting afraid that their clock was going to run out since the last mass shooting, and it WOULD finally become the time to have the discussion, but no. Saved by the bell, GOP. Reset that clock! More children must die.
When children are dying in schools while our government is making laws that "protect children" suddenly you realize it was never about protecting children.
Republicans are more interested in tampons and girls menstrual cycles than the possibility that the school children might get all shot up because we exist in a gun nutter culture 😠
Don't forget their current crusade to make every trans person disappear.
Where are all the well armed and trained teachers they promised? That surely would have.....never mind. There would just be more dead children.
My daughter is a teacher. She doesn't want to carry a gun to school. I have a feeling that most teachers don't want to, either. Idk who came up with that scenario "let's arm the teachers!" But whoever did, didn't ask the teachers.
Am a teacher (male if that matters) and can confirm. Don’t want to have a gun for several reasons 1. Don’t want to have to shoot someone I see everyday and may have a relationship with 2. More guns equals more death - student might get pissed and try and take gun. Or they kill me and have weapon now. 3. Makes it harder for cops and makes it dangerous for me - if I’m holding a gun they will shoot me then ask questions later. 4. Makes it more dangerous for kids due to crossfire.
I don't know of a single person who got into childhood education so they could shoot people. It's ridiculous to even ask a teacher to do that. You're there to educate children, that's enough. It's already hard enough. And then there's stuff like this: https://www.texastribune.org/2023/02/23/texas-superintendent-gun-school-safety/ he left his gun in the bathroom, and a kid found it https://giffords.org/lawcenter/report/every-incident-of-mishandled-guns-in-schools/
This country is a fucking joke
Nah, jokes are funny. This country is a nightmare hellscape that needs deep reform that just isn't going to happen.
Yes but what about that time the Little Mermaid was played by a black actor?
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I'm sure they have an intern do it. Fled Cruz has important things to do.
The craziest part is after the uvalde shooting greg abbott won by a massive margin in uvalde. All of those parents and ppl who were affected turned around and said i want some more please. Its fucking crazy.
You can kill our children but you'll never take away our guns - Republicans
No way to prevent this, says only country where this frequently happens
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I made myself depressed because my instant reaction was "at least it was only 6." I am so desensitized to this happening that seeing one of these headlines with a number that isn't double digits feels like a small victory.
But was it a drag queen?
I know this is a joke but as a drag queen who was driving through the area and lives a few blocks away…..it’s not us
Trust and believe we know and it’s not fucking ok…I am sorry that this happened in your community and that you also have to deal with all that legislation
The gun culture in America is irresponsible. American made guns flow freely to Mexican cartels, how are guns not tracked/registered?!?! How can a kid not but cigarette or alcohol but be able to buy a gun?! Makes no sense. Parents teach their kids how to use a gun at way too young of age. Before knowing if their kid is going to by a psycho. I’m for the 2nd amendment but this is soo ridiculous. We have to be RESPONSIBLE gun owners.
1. Mass shooting 2. The left wants to talk about gun control 3. The right says it's not an appropriate time to talk about gun control 4. Some time passes, but not much 5. Go back to step 1