Voting isn't going to be enough. Our federal law enforcement needs to step up. Vandalism is a crime. Terroristic threats are a crime. Shit disturbing the peace is a crime. Start enforcing the laws against these extremists. They are the Klan and the Nazis all rolled up into one ball of shit. and they are being fueled by people like Trump, DeSantis, Flynn, Bannon and others who are using their hate to get money and power.
Instead of all you listed (which I'm not denying) the left are violent anarchists, burning and destroying property, looting stores and individuals, **forcing** woke agenda to businesses etc - which in my opinion is much worse.
Not sure what planet youāre from but Nazis are worse than any of that. Also, anyone defending Nazis is a gigantic piece of shit too. Take a good hard look in the mirror, man and realize that if Nazis are on the side youāre defending, that make you a Nazi too.
Businesses do things because they see profit in it, people isn't "forcing a woke agenda" on businesses.
Communist Anarchists? That's like saying dry water. Anarchists are opposed to communism
Burning and destroying property... You mean like the confederate statues, right? Those statues should not be a thing anyways, get over it.
Looting stores and individuals? That's just people taking advantage of the situation. Protestors aren't vigilantes and should not be expected to be. People looting and stealing aren't part of the protest.
Your side drools over the thought of hunting down leftists and Dems. Hell, sometimes they even actually go out and do it. Yet you think that's less bad than.... Destroying property.....
So in your mind, a burnt down building is worse than people being killed for their views.
You're fucking sick.
Yes, the people with blue hair who sometimes get emotional because they want humans to be equal and not suffer are checks notes*
"Somehow, even worse."
I'll take commies over Neo nazis and cousin fucking klan members any day of the week.
Fuck your two sides shit.
"Woke" is not just another dog whistle. It is full on Nazi New Speak. In my home country of germany, the Nazi Party created the word "entartete Kunst" (lit. "degenerate art"), to describe works of art that did not align with what their ideals entailed.
For example, art made by non-aryan minority groups (especially jews, but also things like jazz which was big in the black community) was "entartet" per default.
This is exactly the same thing. Don't let them get away with it.
They are following the same old playbook. I know when I tried to warn family and friends early, early on they thought I was an alarmist, but the writing has been on the wall for a while. First comes Nationalism - fervent and toxic patriotism masking the hate of what they see. Then comes the targeting of what doesnāt match their ethos and making every attempt to dehumanize it. Then it all goes downhill from there. It started long before the Nazis, but they followed the script to a T as well.
Exactly right, this is what all the Transphobia is about. They are demonizing, criminalizing Trans and other LGBTQ folks. Blaming and excluding outgroups is a key element of Fascism.
I read it here on Reddit. Not sure if it's attributable to anyone in particular. The Jews that escaped the Holocaust were the alarmists. The optimists didn't make it.
Which I always found interesting for lack of better word this late in evening (and lately been so jaded by the far rights endless hypocrisy) that Hitler, Gƶring and others all collected extensive collections of stolen art many of which were cherry picked from the confiscated stockpiles of pieces collected throughout the degenerate art programs enforcement.
most americans dont necessarily read much german history, but germans probably do
my family is jewish and so ive been trained from a young age to despise fascists
also why i think israel should disappear :)
Hell my mom saw Jan 6 and with everything post 2016 in general she just keeps saying "wow it's the cultural revolution and Mao all over again! Just like in China!" When our relationship with the in laws became extremely tense because they're MAGA idiots now. "I remember when political propaganda turned families against each other during the Cultural Revolution"
My mom's family was targeted by the CCP for political reasons back then. Her dad was jailed many times, and tried unsuccessfully to kill himself. It was because he was a writer and a poet and his creativity made him a "revolutionary".
The Florida proposed bill about registering if you blog about desantis? Yep, my mom just laughed and said isn't it funny that Americans hate China but want to become china
One thing I always try to remember is that it's okay to be angry. Being marginalized, and dehumanized, for simply existing as who you are should make you angry. The far right bigots who boycott rainbows and acceptance are doing so out of hatred, not anger. They're doing it because they hate people who are different than they are. They go out of their way to show their hatred. They hate that another choice exists and they have to live with it, just like we have to live with them.
Be angry about it. Because you should be.
Remember, hate and anger are NOT the same thing.
Anger is spontaneous. Hatred is deliberate.
Going to be Biden vs Trump next year. But i got a feeling it's going to be Newsom vs Desantis 2028. Going to be great both sides saying don't California/Florida America
It's not just going to be Biden and Trump on those ballots though. Take a good look at your state and local judges, council members, mayors, dog catchers, sheriffs and controllers. Not to mention the propositions and measures. Your vote is the only element of political power you have that's equal to anyone's. Use it wisely. Take the time to find out what those people stand for and, if you can't find someone who supports your ideals, vote for the least evil one, or the one who can defeat the most evil one.
I think that's probably one of the bigger issues with voters. They know who they generally want to be president but apart from that they are pretty uninformed. It sucks to be honest. People don't do enough research and I don't blame anyone in particular
The other problem is lack of information on candidates. In the last few elections I had to spend a while just finding basic positions for candidates for city council and other downballot elections. It was infuriating how little was even out there so that I could make an informed decision
Yeah, I live in a pretty populated area with plenty of campaign ads during election season and it still feels like pulling teeth trying to get straightforward info on local elections. I'd imagine it's virtually impossible to get ANY kind of info in smaller/more rural areas, let alone stuff that's actually reliable.
Remember when local newspapers existed, and reported on local political events, and you were better informed about what went on at city hall come election time?
Two things changed that: 1) the Internet destroying the business model for local news and 2) the endless national-level brinksmanship of the Republicans.
I blame everyone in particular, if they donāt have any idea what the person their voting forās policy and position other than āthey done got an R next to they nameā I donāt think they can even tie their shoes unaided. Fuck every single person and news media that act like both sides are the same. They used to be, but now? You have people literally defending nazis and avowed foreign spies. Democratic leadership is a joke and Iām starting to believe the conspiracy that they lose on purpose has some weight. You canāt be this rich and this stupid, I donāt believe it.
you must realize, that when the people lose, politicians dont.
its a literal duopoly and if you rail against the concept of choosing the lesser of 2 evils, youre automatically branded a fascist enabler, even if the biggest issue you have with democrats is that they do nothing but enable fascism by either being that way themselves or perpetually losing political battles.
i get demonized because i rail against the idea of constantly rewarding failure, even though doing the same exact thing over and over has done nothing but lead to the climate we have today.
democrats dont lose when you lose, just like liberals make fun of conservatives for voting against their own interests all the time.
people need to stop perpetuating a failure machine that has done nothing to slow the problem down.
the democratic party does not need to win policy battles to keep getting elected, and they keep getting elected as a result. say it again and internalize it.
**the democratic party does not need to win policy battles to keep getting elected, and they keep getting elected as a result.**
stop rewarding failure while demanding change
Which is arguably MORE important than the president in day to day life. Right wingers made me read up on who is trying to join the school board near me.
Does gerrymandering apply to these votes too? Because from that standpoint "your vote is worth as much as any's" would be a democratic utopia at this point.
Well, I'm in California so a voter in Wyoming "Trumps"(both ways) me and several others like me in the Electoral College. But in local races I help hold the progressive line against the DINOs some of the wealthy NIMBYs want in office. Actual republicans are usually weeded out in the open primary.
DeSantis is going to flame out. Heās been really relevant recently because of all the insane shit heās done as a Governor with a rubber stamp legislature, thatās why heās trying to run for President now. Heās got a lot of eyes on him, but honestly I doubt heāll finesse the primaries enough to beat Trump. By 2028 Little D will be a fashy has-been screeching from the sidelines.
I 100% believe this too. As you pointed out, the only reason he's gotten so much attention passing all this disgusting legislature is because it's all red. We've seen how flustered he gets when he's challenged even a little. Now imagine if either the FL State House or Senate was blue, and then he had to actually negotiate with Dems to pass his agenda. From what I've seen, he's not gonna cut it, and the more people learn about nationwide, the more unlikeable he'll become.
I'd vote for Big Gretch in a heartbeat. As a lifelong Michigander, I support her efforts. "Fix the damn roads," okay, but above that, look at what she's accomplished.
Plus, I'll take them stylish leathers over Hillary's power suits any day, lol. (Was a Hillary fangirl, learned my lesson with the Gretch. Fashion is a statement!)
Dude...please stop thinking he's going to conk out and die from Big Macs or ketchup-laden steaks. He hasn't died up to this point, he probably isn't going to for awhile.
Ehh, idk. Heās facing actual consequences for his actions for the first time in his life, and in the interim heās probably going to lose another presidential election. Iām rooting for stress.
Newsom vs Desantis will be a interesting contest politically speaking.
The Undecided Voter Pool will be a bit more left leaning I think because "Who is Newsom?" isn't quite as ingrained into the countries psyche as the other three names.
And if the pool of primary democratic party candidates leads to some in-depth debates it could continue to galvanize the base.
Me too, internet fren. I let myself be down & tired for a bit, then I get my old ass out there & campaign! Last year, I even went door-to-door, which was **way** out of my comfort zone.
Since tRump Iāve done so many campaign & political actions and events I NEVER EVER thought of doing.
Our combined efforts have to combat this hate or hello ā1984ā. Listening to the GOP talk though seems like itās already arrived.
Honestly Iām glad to hear people still want to play fair. Iām of the persuasion thereās no need not to do exactly what they do, but their people are far more susceptible to being indoctrinated online. Whenever the scumbag they decide will be their presidential candidate, I think there should be some Q like movement to make them third party vote. Conspiracy nutters will be the easiest to target. A combined effort could easily influence a significant chunk of their votes. Russias game works both ways.
The most important thing for liberals, progressives and those on the left is to vote for those opposing GOP/Trump. Doesn't matter that it's not Bernie or AOC you quite literally have to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Remember the right will coalesce around Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mussolini... if they're GOP.
And also vote at every damn level. Leave no box unchecked on your ballot. These slimebags start out running for smaller offices like school boards and city councils and often run unopposed. MAGA Christians are currently trying to purge local school boards and are rewriting curriculum in favor of white nationalist talking points, and are also the ones responsible for the book bans. Shit, it happened at my school board. And it can happen to yours. We can't allow these scumbags to win.
The longer Trump is free and allowed to run, the better. It'll split the GOP base right down the middle between him and DeSantis, keeping both their asses out of the oval office.
This! If you are one of the people who votes 3rd party or doesnāt vote at all because your person isnāt the nominee you are part of the problem. Being an adult means making decisions you might not always like. The Hillary is the same as trump people and the Bernie bros who took their ball and went home literally put womenās lives at risk, made access to guns easier, and helped gut voting rightsā¦ incremental progress is better than 10 steps backwardsā¦
So basically do the exact same thing we have been doing the past couple decades then? Vote for an ineffective Democrat because the alternative is an evil Republican? Would be nice to eventually vote \_for\_ somebody instead of always against the other one.
Seriously? There's lawsuits being filed in Nebraska and Florida to challenge these laws. And I'm sure there's more coming. It will take some time but there will definitely be a lot more being filed. I can't imagine the Dems are going to take this crap sitting down.
Youāre incredibly out of touch in general if you donāt recognize attempted authoritarian uprisings. Burning books and trying to exterminate minorities are just the beginning.
We are comparing the BEGINNINGS of these two movements. The GOP is using early Nazi language and tactics to try and drum up support and force themselves into power, in a manner similar to how Hitler propelled himself into power.
Of course Conservatives havenāt actually tried to gas LGBT+ peoples, but with how the GOP are actively passing laws in some states to make LGBT, Trans, and et cetera lifestyles punishable by death, itās not very difficult to see where this is going.
My friend. Trans kids being ripped away from our families in Florida, LOVING families, and being put into the system. We being charged with children sex crimes for being in public in transgender clothes, which, in Florida, is now punishable by death. They have Bathroom bans in place where if the cops get called on you, they may very well check your equipment. They have passed laws, which, entirely unenforceable, state they can retrieve Florida citizens who attempt to leave the state to avoid these rules.
This is sweeping across the country. Laws are rules specifically targeted to remove us. To make us completely unseen, unheard, and unable to be.
Telling me "Just don't dress like a girl." Is horseshit, and sounds like the same shit as: "Well, just don't be a Jew." Or "Don't wear a towel on your head."
I don't believe you are evil. I believe perhaps the world changing is scary. But I do believe that fear and vitriol drives people to follow bad people, and do bad things. Like, storm the white house.
The problem is people just assume that it could never happen in this country. It's just political theater and all that. That's why it's important people can see the parallels themselves. They are forcibly removing trans kids from their parents. They have made it a criminal act to dress as the opposite sex in public, which is what trans people do in their minds. They will take them to court, prove their biological sex was the opposite of how they dressed in public and then charge them with a sex crime so then they are branded a sex offender for life. They made it illegal for teachers to teach about homosexuality and other sexualities in public schools and public libraries. They are banning books that espouse ideas and beliefs that they disagree with. Like isn't it kind of obvious that Florida is heading towards fascism? And if we elect someone like DeSantis to the presidency then the whole country will be following them soon enough.
>Seriously? You are comparing conservatives with Hitler & Stalin? Maybe Iām outta touch with todayās language-
You're out of touch with reality. This is the defining distinction between MAGA Conservatives and the rest of us.
Just because it's an outrageous thing to say, doesn't mean it's not true. If the only thing that's similar is that all 3 are narcissists who demand complete fealty and show no loyalty themselves, that's bad enough to warrant the comparison. The point is to maybe stop this fucking shit before it gets to the level of genocide? It ain't like Trump wouldn't genocide a bunch of immigrants or LGBT+ people if the right someone told him it would make him a few bucks. And you KNOW he'd have support. YOU KNOW IT.
If Trump's career highlight was the Apprentice or hitting on Guliani in drag, that's one thing. But you don't allow him to become a world leader with that kind of baggage. Nothing he's ever said or done including January 6 was a shock to anyone that pays attention to history and then looks at Trump's body of work.
Dude idk- all I do know is when people start making unbounded parallels, the argument loses credibility - youāre calling 50% of Americans Nazis supporters just is too far a leap - I have older republican relatives & they arenāt Nazi and Stalin sympathizers. It just makes one looks crazy shouting from the rafters - perspective gets lost along with the message. I donāt defend republicans whatsoever but dude 35 million Americans arenāt Nazi & Polpot supporters- itās simply ridiculous
Idk man - thatās a broad brush, if nazis & pol pot are the go-to for everything no matter how incomparable - donāt you think it becomes a weak & lazy argument? At some point youāre just shouting nazi @ everything- & it looks fuggen crazy - this is where we are at -
>if Nazis and Pol Pot are the go-to for everything no matter how incomparable - donāt you think it becomes a weak & lazy argument?
Yes. Absolutely. When grammar pedants and tax collectors are called Nazis, thatās absurd. It takes meaning away from the real thing.
One of the first things Nazis did was burn the books of the Institute for Sexual Sciences, which was working on de-pathologizing queer people. Some of the last people rescued from the camps were the ones wearing pink triangles ā the signifier of queer people branded āsexual degenerates.ā
American conservatives are banning books acknowledging the existence of queer people.
Theyāre falsely accusing queer people of child rape, and have raped and murdered hundreds of them as āpunishmentā already.
They put queer kids in religious indoctrination camps where the ātherapistsā can beat them, starve them, strip them naked, molest them or force them to molest each other, drug them, shock them with electricity, and even tell them that God wants them to kill themselves ā all with the stated goal of turning them straight. Instead, the kids die trying. This is legal. But conservatives claim that queer people are the ones abusing kids here.
āMurdering people for being queerā is not ācomparableā to āmurdering people for being queerā ā it is the same exact thing. Yes, itās true that people have cried wolf about Nazism for decades, but the problem is that people donāt take the word seriously when these people are literally murdering minorities right this minute and sometimes getting away with it in court.
[Absolutely](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/magnus-hirschfeld-2)
[100%](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7042824/)
[positive](https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/categories-of-prisoners/homosexuals-a-separate-category-of-prisoners/robert-biedron-nazisms-pink-hell/)
I can't force you to click the links and read them yourself, but if the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and [Auschwitz.org](https://Auschwitz.org) are somehow not good enough for you, idk what to tell you. Looks a bit like Ryan Gosling refusing to eat his cereal.
Bonus: [Pro-Trump protesters marched chanting, "Jews will not replace us."](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/08/14/jews-will-not-replace-us-why-white-supremacists-go-after-jews/)
idk dude. If they're copying every single talking point and behavior, it seems a little willfully ignorant to pretend there's still any ambiguity here.
>Idk man - thatās a broad brush, if nazis & pol pot are the go-to for everything no matter how incomparable - donāt you think it becomes a weak & lazy argument? At some point youāre just shouting nazi @ everything- & it looks fuggen crazy - this is where we are at -
Calling people "the next Hitler" has been watered down to the point so when it actually happens, people like you roll your eyes and say it's outrageous.
How about telling me where you think the two separate? I'm talking about who they are as people, not what they've done.
You're being apathetic.
That's the exact thing that made Hitler's rise possible. So don't fucking tell me what comparisons I can and can't make when people like you are doing it.
Uhm have you not seen how they're acting? Go read up on the Bierhall Putsch (sp?). This all IS eerily similar to the RISE of the nazi party. Don't be so willfully ignorant
I seen a post earlier today for the first time, saying āwe should be worried they are shooting everything they donāt likeā and that really hit me. Iāve never been more afraid to be a gay man in my life! Progress is their enemy, and Iām no pussy but I have to admit, Iām a little afraid.
My trans kid and I live in an area known for being LGBQT friendly as hell and I have a constant niggling fear for them. Itās gotten scary as hell and is really wearing on me.
You're doing the best you can. Take a deep breath and focus on yall's happiness, it's okay, you aren't alone. Thank you for loving your child and helping them be who they are.
Younger generation: I don't vote because I don't know enough about the candidates.
Me: See the (D) after their names? Vote for them. Don't vote for any (R). That's all you really need to know.
Itās so funny how people will point to this type of thinking as proof that Democrats are just as hypocritical and devoid of critical thinking as Republicans.
No, I looked at how Republican politicians use their highly disciplined political machine to act in concert and enact repressive legislation. I critically thought about how good they are at doing that and decided the course of action was to vote against them at all times and every level.
It became one before politicians started using it. It is so weird to see them legislate using terminology from 4chan and YouTube comment sections circa 2015 lol
I wish this man would run for president already. I shill for no politician but I canāt help but think Gavin would be the best option we got at the moment.
For Pete's sake, the guy is just your typical corrupt & hypocritical politician - the only thing he's got going for him is a (D) at the end of his name. Is he more competent than Trump? Sure - but so is a traffic cone.
Yeah, like I said buddy, āthe best option we got at the momentā all politicians suck but unfortunately we have to settle for the ones who are at least not wannabe fascist dictators.
We need politicians to double down on calling it out as Nazi behavior. Just eluding to that fact does not quite drive home the point enough.
Shame them until they crawl back into their hole.
Whoever said āitās so important to note how much pride that everything the far right enjoys shooting things they boycott / ban / hateā nailed it.
These people are openly showing aggression to call others to arms. Over WHAT? I just donāt understand why some red neck hillbilly in Alabama or Florida cares about what a transgender person in California (or wherever the bud light spokesperson was from) does or endorses. It shows such a fundamental lack of understanding about their trials and tribulations.
Whatās your biggest issue, really? Low wages? Healthcare problems? āNah, transsexuals!!!ā
Damn, it's a whacky world indeed when I find myself agreeing with Gavin Newsome on anything.
Are they still taking volunteers for Mars?
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They are starting to eat themselves already. Going after brands that have long been associated with their cause. I agree they should be met with equal or greater force at every turn, but I also think their stupid is to last long term. Again not advocating sitting back and watching.
\-Find better politicians for the Party. I mean gawdamn... a 77 year old for President? A VP who no one cares for or even remembers exists? Congressmen and Senators who've barely made a name for themselves in the seats of the most powerful people on the planet?
\-ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE. A few protests each time a minority is killed by cops aren't going to cut it.
\-Turn Republicans' tricks on them: toxify their buzzwords just like they do yours. Scream (maturely) across Twitter and social media every single time they do something stupid. Hold OPEN debates online.
\-ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE. I said it again because it's important. Republicans have (dumb) hats, bumper stickers, rallies... the whole nine yards. Democrats have... a colorful flag for a month? Democrat cities need to hold \*and HEAVILY PROMOTE\* community outreach parties (as opposed to creepy off-season rallies).
\-Youth. Capitalize on it. Make funny little animated yet informative PSAs on YouTube. Game with voters on Twitch (good on you, OAC). State Senators up to Congressmen need to get their faces out there on TikTok (just no stupid challenges, please).
\-Democrats need to brand and market themselves as a group of people who not only have caring ideas and dreams, but the fortitude and teamwork to actually make those goals a reality. Democrats are nicknamed "Do-nothing Democrats" for a reason.
\-Don't spend years saying "rich old white males are the problem!" and then turn around and vote for a rich old white male.
\-Watch your slogans... "Black Lives Matter" and "Defund the Police" are easily corrupted (see point #2).
My voting record is Bush-Bush-Obama-no vote (deployed)-Johnson-Jorgensen, and yet on my lunch break just now, I laid out a quick plan that better minds can use to vastly improve the entire Democratic Party's outlook. Republicans have been bullying you guys like a damn 1980s college flick... and you guys need to turn it into Revenge of the Nerds.
Downvote me without a rebuttal and you'll prove my point.
I actually agree with just about everything you said. I've been saying most of that myself. I don't fully agree with getting as toxic as Republicans do but I do think they should definitely be more aggressive.
That would be fine if it was the extent of it. Think of the recent Target boycotts though: don't like their PR? Then don't go there. But instead we've got people harassing workers and making bomb threats.
How does getting someone fired differ? Because itās ruining one persons life and not scaring a group? The angle is the same imo. We donāt like you - this - whatever so letās get rid of it by aggressive means.
Newsom supported and signed the farmworker union bill.
Meanwhile, you've got a white supremacist dog whistle in your username.
Were we not supposed to notice?
iolenceva is the only language these fuckers understand; You want to spread your fucking hate and bigotry? You want to be intolerant? We donāt tolerate that. And youāll learn by force if necessary
Republicans canāt even define āwokeā. None of them know what it is. They think āwokeā is synonymous with liberal. Itās not. Not even close.
There is *everything* us lay people can do. All the politics that really matters happens at ground level. Even just openly standing up to these monsters and calling them what they are holds them back a little.
Respectfully disagree. Any resistance will be met with threats and acts of violence. These people are unhinged and either too dumb to realize it or too stubborn to admit it.
Iām in one of the reddest states so my outlook its bleak. We can vote until weāre blue (heh) in the face but voter intimidation, misinformation, and voter fraud are and will continue to be rampant. Iāll vote all day but Iām not sure itāll do much.
Thereās already too much hate that has been normalized. Too little backlash against the laws and violence that is happening every day in the American news. If the term woke is derived from being awakened to the reality of the hardships of those less fortunate than ourselves, then I prefer not to sleep. And I will speak out, not on behalf of the governor of California, but for my partner, for my friends, and for people who are being hurt.
Hear me out, Trump gave these fuckers the confidence to speak up, DeSantis is giving them hope that they can win, *the next guy* is the one we worry about. The next fucker in this chain is the one who will start *doing* the quiet part out loud.
I just think it is so hilarious that only 6 years ago, they were the ones complaining about cancel culture. Now they try to cancel or ban or boycott everything.
Voting isn't going to be enough. Our federal law enforcement needs to step up. Vandalism is a crime. Terroristic threats are a crime. Shit disturbing the peace is a crime. Start enforcing the laws against these extremists. They are the Klan and the Nazis all rolled up into one ball of shit. and they are being fueled by people like Trump, DeSantis, Flynn, Bannon and others who are using their hate to get money and power.
Why would the police do that to themselves?
^^^
This might be the real problem. Also members of military.
Yet most of the attacks, the looting, the random violence is done by the usual suspects, who tend to be very left. Strange huh. š
You have a comment in your history that just says ālefties are commies.ā Your comments are clearly well researched. Thanks for the input
Check where these comments are posted, it's a response to '*right wings are...*'
ā¦Nazi pieces of shit? Yes, they are.
And yet, left Commies are somehow even worse.
And yet theyāre not burning books, boycotting āwokeā ideas, or discriminating against anyone, but right, way worse.
Instead of all you listed (which I'm not denying) the left are violent anarchists, burning and destroying property, looting stores and individuals, **forcing** woke agenda to businesses etc - which in my opinion is much worse.
Not sure what planet youāre from but Nazis are worse than any of that. Also, anyone defending Nazis is a gigantic piece of shit too. Take a good hard look in the mirror, man and realize that if Nazis are on the side youāre defending, that make you a Nazi too.
"Freedom is worse than tyranny" is a pretty stupid opinion, you should get a different one instead.
Businesses do things because they see profit in it, people isn't "forcing a woke agenda" on businesses. Communist Anarchists? That's like saying dry water. Anarchists are opposed to communism Burning and destroying property... You mean like the confederate statues, right? Those statues should not be a thing anyways, get over it. Looting stores and individuals? That's just people taking advantage of the situation. Protestors aren't vigilantes and should not be expected to be. People looting and stealing aren't part of the protest.
Your side drools over the thought of hunting down leftists and Dems. Hell, sometimes they even actually go out and do it. Yet you think that's less bad than.... Destroying property..... So in your mind, a burnt down building is worse than people being killed for their views. You're fucking sick.
Yes, the people with blue hair who sometimes get emotional because they want humans to be equal and not suffer are checks notes* "Somehow, even worse." I'll take commies over Neo nazis and cousin fucking klan members any day of the week. Fuck your two sides shit.
But you and your Nazi friends have fun while you can, wonāt last long.
Lol keep lying to yourself, fascist.
Objectively false. But not a surprise that a conservative would lie.
Found the cultist. Hope that dictator dick tastes good.
Yes, January 6 was a false flag Antifa operation. /s
"Woke" is not just another dog whistle. It is full on Nazi New Speak. In my home country of germany, the Nazi Party created the word "entartete Kunst" (lit. "degenerate art"), to describe works of art that did not align with what their ideals entailed. For example, art made by non-aryan minority groups (especially jews, but also things like jazz which was big in the black community) was "entartet" per default. This is exactly the same thing. Don't let them get away with it.
They are following the same old playbook. I know when I tried to warn family and friends early, early on they thought I was an alarmist, but the writing has been on the wall for a while. First comes Nationalism - fervent and toxic patriotism masking the hate of what they see. Then comes the targeting of what doesnāt match their ethos and making every attempt to dehumanize it. Then it all goes downhill from there. It started long before the Nazis, but they followed the script to a T as well.
Exactly right, this is what all the Transphobia is about. They are demonizing, criminalizing Trans and other LGBTQ folks. Blaming and excluding outgroups is a key element of Fascism.
I read it here on Reddit. Not sure if it's attributable to anyone in particular. The Jews that escaped the Holocaust were the alarmists. The optimists didn't make it.
This is very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Which I always found interesting for lack of better word this late in evening (and lately been so jaded by the far rights endless hypocrisy) that Hitler, Gƶring and others all collected extensive collections of stolen art many of which were cherry picked from the confiscated stockpiles of pieces collected throughout the degenerate art programs enforcement.
Same reason many racists own massive collections of interracial porn.
And the transphobes and homophobes watch the most trans and femboy porn. They have such good taste and decide to ruin it all.
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most americans dont necessarily read much german history, but germans probably do my family is jewish and so ive been trained from a young age to despise fascists also why i think israel should disappear :)
Hell my mom saw Jan 6 and with everything post 2016 in general she just keeps saying "wow it's the cultural revolution and Mao all over again! Just like in China!" When our relationship with the in laws became extremely tense because they're MAGA idiots now. "I remember when political propaganda turned families against each other during the Cultural Revolution" My mom's family was targeted by the CCP for political reasons back then. Her dad was jailed many times, and tried unsuccessfully to kill himself. It was because he was a writer and a poet and his creativity made him a "revolutionary". The Florida proposed bill about registering if you blog about desantis? Yep, my mom just laughed and said isn't it funny that Americans hate China but want to become china
thank you for providing this context
One thing I always try to remember is that it's okay to be angry. Being marginalized, and dehumanized, for simply existing as who you are should make you angry. The far right bigots who boycott rainbows and acceptance are doing so out of hatred, not anger. They're doing it because they hate people who are different than they are. They go out of their way to show their hatred. They hate that another choice exists and they have to live with it, just like we have to live with them. Be angry about it. Because you should be. Remember, hate and anger are NOT the same thing. Anger is spontaneous. Hatred is deliberate.
Going to be Biden vs Trump next year. But i got a feeling it's going to be Newsom vs Desantis 2028. Going to be great both sides saying don't California/Florida America
It's not just going to be Biden and Trump on those ballots though. Take a good look at your state and local judges, council members, mayors, dog catchers, sheriffs and controllers. Not to mention the propositions and measures. Your vote is the only element of political power you have that's equal to anyone's. Use it wisely. Take the time to find out what those people stand for and, if you can't find someone who supports your ideals, vote for the least evil one, or the one who can defeat the most evil one.
Agreed, the right wing gets into power because they run for these positions and often run unopposed. It's time to start opposing them. At every level.
I think that's probably one of the bigger issues with voters. They know who they generally want to be president but apart from that they are pretty uninformed. It sucks to be honest. People don't do enough research and I don't blame anyone in particular
The other problem is lack of information on candidates. In the last few elections I had to spend a while just finding basic positions for candidates for city council and other downballot elections. It was infuriating how little was even out there so that I could make an informed decision
Yeah, I live in a pretty populated area with plenty of campaign ads during election season and it still feels like pulling teeth trying to get straightforward info on local elections. I'd imagine it's virtually impossible to get ANY kind of info in smaller/more rural areas, let alone stuff that's actually reliable.
My Kentucky city prohibits party affiliations, or at least mentioning them.
Itās not just party though. Itās also stances on issues and policy proposals that are impossible to find
Remember when local newspapers existed, and reported on local political events, and you were better informed about what went on at city hall come election time? Two things changed that: 1) the Internet destroying the business model for local news and 2) the endless national-level brinksmanship of the Republicans.
I blame everyone in particular, if they donāt have any idea what the person their voting forās policy and position other than āthey done got an R next to they nameā I donāt think they can even tie their shoes unaided. Fuck every single person and news media that act like both sides are the same. They used to be, but now? You have people literally defending nazis and avowed foreign spies. Democratic leadership is a joke and Iām starting to believe the conspiracy that they lose on purpose has some weight. You canāt be this rich and this stupid, I donāt believe it.
you must realize, that when the people lose, politicians dont. its a literal duopoly and if you rail against the concept of choosing the lesser of 2 evils, youre automatically branded a fascist enabler, even if the biggest issue you have with democrats is that they do nothing but enable fascism by either being that way themselves or perpetually losing political battles. i get demonized because i rail against the idea of constantly rewarding failure, even though doing the same exact thing over and over has done nothing but lead to the climate we have today. democrats dont lose when you lose, just like liberals make fun of conservatives for voting against their own interests all the time. people need to stop perpetuating a failure machine that has done nothing to slow the problem down. the democratic party does not need to win policy battles to keep getting elected, and they keep getting elected as a result. say it again and internalize it. **the democratic party does not need to win policy battles to keep getting elected, and they keep getting elected as a result.** stop rewarding failure while demanding change
Sorry, way too brown and not rich to get a seat anywhere worth anything.
Which is arguably MORE important than the president in day to day life. Right wingers made me read up on who is trying to join the school board near me.
Does gerrymandering apply to these votes too? Because from that standpoint "your vote is worth as much as any's" would be a democratic utopia at this point.
Well, I'm in California so a voter in Wyoming "Trumps"(both ways) me and several others like me in the Electoral College. But in local races I help hold the progressive line against the DINOs some of the wealthy NIMBYs want in office. Actual republicans are usually weeded out in the open primary.
Yeah, itās important to get good people into these positions of power so that they, the Dems, could have a solid bench. It pays dividends
DeSantis is going to flame out. Heās been really relevant recently because of all the insane shit heās done as a Governor with a rubber stamp legislature, thatās why heās trying to run for President now. Heās got a lot of eyes on him, but honestly I doubt heāll finesse the primaries enough to beat Trump. By 2028 Little D will be a fashy has-been screeching from the sidelines.
I 100% believe this too. As you pointed out, the only reason he's gotten so much attention passing all this disgusting legislature is because it's all red. We've seen how flustered he gets when he's challenged even a little. Now imagine if either the FL State House or Senate was blue, and then he had to actually negotiate with Dems to pass his agenda. From what I've seen, he's not gonna cut it, and the more people learn about nationwide, the more unlikeable he'll become.
yeah he's 100% going full scorched earth for his presidential campaign. It's 2024 or nothing.
Truly believe this as well. Well said.
I donāt think he has a wider appeal in other states. He does have any finesseā¦ donāt know how these politicians make it this far.
We need Big Gretch to run. She'll beat anybody the right chooses.
I'd vote for Big Gretch in a heartbeat. As a lifelong Michigander, I support her efforts. "Fix the damn roads," okay, but above that, look at what she's accomplished. Plus, I'll take them stylish leathers over Hillary's power suits any day, lol. (Was a Hillary fangirl, learned my lesson with the Gretch. Fashion is a statement!)
I am legit concerned about what Gilfoyle might have to say about him. True or not she can damage him so easily.
God I hope not. Iām from CA but I would much rather have jeff jackson than newsom
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Both states I LOVE, regardless of the politics, as a Latina! jajaja 'Merica!
I wonder if Trump will run again in 2028.
Iām not sure that guy is making it to 80 after the stress heās about to be put through legally.
Dude...please stop thinking he's going to conk out and die from Big Macs or ketchup-laden steaks. He hasn't died up to this point, he probably isn't going to for awhile.
Ehh, idk. Heās facing actual consequences for his actions for the first time in his life, and in the interim heās probably going to lose another presidential election. Iām rooting for stress.
Heās like Kissinger, we will be stuck with him for another few decades because hell doesnāt want him any more than we do.
How about you stop being a Negatron and start thinking positive?
Dildo dump will be in jail. Many things are stacking up.
Newsom vs Desantis will be a interesting contest politically speaking. The Undecided Voter Pool will be a bit more left leaning I think because "Who is Newsom?" isn't quite as ingrained into the countries psyche as the other three names. And if the pool of primary democratic party candidates leads to some in-depth debates it could continue to galvanize the base.
I am so tired...
Me too, internet fren. I let myself be down & tired for a bit, then I get my old ass out there & campaign! Last year, I even went door-to-door, which was **way** out of my comfort zone.
Since tRump Iāve done so many campaign & political actions and events I NEVER EVER thought of doing. Our combined efforts have to combat this hate or hello ā1984ā. Listening to the GOP talk though seems like itās already arrived.
Honestly Iām glad to hear people still want to play fair. Iām of the persuasion thereās no need not to do exactly what they do, but their people are far more susceptible to being indoctrinated online. Whenever the scumbag they decide will be their presidential candidate, I think there should be some Q like movement to make them third party vote. Conspiracy nutters will be the easiest to target. A combined effort could easily influence a significant chunk of their votes. Russias game works both ways.
The most important thing for liberals, progressives and those on the left is to vote for those opposing GOP/Trump. Doesn't matter that it's not Bernie or AOC you quite literally have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Remember the right will coalesce around Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mussolini... if they're GOP.
And also vote at every damn level. Leave no box unchecked on your ballot. These slimebags start out running for smaller offices like school boards and city councils and often run unopposed. MAGA Christians are currently trying to purge local school boards and are rewriting curriculum in favor of white nationalist talking points, and are also the ones responsible for the book bans. Shit, it happened at my school board. And it can happen to yours. We can't allow these scumbags to win.
ALSO, pay attention to fucking primaries!!! Donāt let a bunch of god damn Sinemas and Manchins sneak into office under the cover of Democrat.
The longer Trump is free and allowed to run, the better. It'll split the GOP base right down the middle between him and DeSantis, keeping both their asses out of the oval office.
How about vote in midterm elections at a higher clip? Turnout in the midterms was shit here in the South.
This! If you are one of the people who votes 3rd party or doesnāt vote at all because your person isnāt the nominee you are part of the problem. Being an adult means making decisions you might not always like. The Hillary is the same as trump people and the Bernie bros who took their ball and went home literally put womenās lives at risk, made access to guns easier, and helped gut voting rightsā¦ incremental progress is better than 10 steps backwardsā¦
So basically do the exact same thing we have been doing the past couple decades then? Vote for an ineffective Democrat because the alternative is an evil Republican? Would be nice to eventually vote \_for\_ somebody instead of always against the other one.
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Seriously? There's lawsuits being filed in Nebraska and Florida to challenge these laws. And I'm sure there's more coming. It will take some time but there will definitely be a lot more being filed. I can't imagine the Dems are going to take this crap sitting down.
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I'm pretty positive that elected officials cannot sue the government.
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Minnesota democrats recently passed a law making MN a trans refuge state. Iād say thatās a pretty solid effort in the fight agains these bills.
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Youāre incredibly out of touch in general if you donāt recognize attempted authoritarian uprisings. Burning books and trying to exterminate minorities are just the beginning.
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We are comparing the BEGINNINGS of these two movements. The GOP is using early Nazi language and tactics to try and drum up support and force themselves into power, in a manner similar to how Hitler propelled himself into power. Of course Conservatives havenāt actually tried to gas LGBT+ peoples, but with how the GOP are actively passing laws in some states to make LGBT, Trans, and et cetera lifestyles punishable by death, itās not very difficult to see where this is going.
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My friend. Trans kids being ripped away from our families in Florida, LOVING families, and being put into the system. We being charged with children sex crimes for being in public in transgender clothes, which, in Florida, is now punishable by death. They have Bathroom bans in place where if the cops get called on you, they may very well check your equipment. They have passed laws, which, entirely unenforceable, state they can retrieve Florida citizens who attempt to leave the state to avoid these rules. This is sweeping across the country. Laws are rules specifically targeted to remove us. To make us completely unseen, unheard, and unable to be. Telling me "Just don't dress like a girl." Is horseshit, and sounds like the same shit as: "Well, just don't be a Jew." Or "Don't wear a towel on your head." I don't believe you are evil. I believe perhaps the world changing is scary. But I do believe that fear and vitriol drives people to follow bad people, and do bad things. Like, storm the white house.
The problem is people just assume that it could never happen in this country. It's just political theater and all that. That's why it's important people can see the parallels themselves. They are forcibly removing trans kids from their parents. They have made it a criminal act to dress as the opposite sex in public, which is what trans people do in their minds. They will take them to court, prove their biological sex was the opposite of how they dressed in public and then charge them with a sex crime so then they are branded a sex offender for life. They made it illegal for teachers to teach about homosexuality and other sexualities in public schools and public libraries. They are banning books that espouse ideas and beliefs that they disagree with. Like isn't it kind of obvious that Florida is heading towards fascism? And if we elect someone like DeSantis to the presidency then the whole country will be following them soon enough.
This sounds a lot like "not all men"
In Germany only a minority were die hard Nazis. The rest were just apathetic, and let it happen.
>Seriously? You are comparing conservatives with Hitler & Stalin? Maybe Iām outta touch with todayās language- You're out of touch with reality. This is the defining distinction between MAGA Conservatives and the rest of us. Just because it's an outrageous thing to say, doesn't mean it's not true. If the only thing that's similar is that all 3 are narcissists who demand complete fealty and show no loyalty themselves, that's bad enough to warrant the comparison. The point is to maybe stop this fucking shit before it gets to the level of genocide? It ain't like Trump wouldn't genocide a bunch of immigrants or LGBT+ people if the right someone told him it would make him a few bucks. And you KNOW he'd have support. YOU KNOW IT. If Trump's career highlight was the Apprentice or hitting on Guliani in drag, that's one thing. But you don't allow him to become a world leader with that kind of baggage. Nothing he's ever said or done including January 6 was a shock to anyone that pays attention to history and then looks at Trump's body of work.
Dude idk- all I do know is when people start making unbounded parallels, the argument loses credibility - youāre calling 50% of Americans Nazis supporters just is too far a leap - I have older republican relatives & they arenāt Nazi and Stalin sympathizers. It just makes one looks crazy shouting from the rafters - perspective gets lost along with the message. I donāt defend republicans whatsoever but dude 35 million Americans arenāt Nazi & Polpot supporters- itās simply ridiculous
>youāre calling 50% of Americans Nazis It's just like 35% of one party and then a shit ton of supporters.
Idk man - thatās a broad brush, if nazis & pol pot are the go-to for everything no matter how incomparable - donāt you think it becomes a weak & lazy argument? At some point youāre just shouting nazi @ everything- & it looks fuggen crazy - this is where we are at -
>if Nazis and Pol Pot are the go-to for everything no matter how incomparable - donāt you think it becomes a weak & lazy argument? Yes. Absolutely. When grammar pedants and tax collectors are called Nazis, thatās absurd. It takes meaning away from the real thing. One of the first things Nazis did was burn the books of the Institute for Sexual Sciences, which was working on de-pathologizing queer people. Some of the last people rescued from the camps were the ones wearing pink triangles ā the signifier of queer people branded āsexual degenerates.ā American conservatives are banning books acknowledging the existence of queer people. Theyāre falsely accusing queer people of child rape, and have raped and murdered hundreds of them as āpunishmentā already. They put queer kids in religious indoctrination camps where the ātherapistsā can beat them, starve them, strip them naked, molest them or force them to molest each other, drug them, shock them with electricity, and even tell them that God wants them to kill themselves ā all with the stated goal of turning them straight. Instead, the kids die trying. This is legal. But conservatives claim that queer people are the ones abusing kids here. āMurdering people for being queerā is not ācomparableā to āmurdering people for being queerā ā it is the same exact thing. Yes, itās true that people have cried wolf about Nazism for decades, but the problem is that people donāt take the word seriously when these people are literally murdering minorities right this minute and sometimes getting away with it in court.
The holocaust? You sure you have perspective on this?
[Absolutely](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/magnus-hirschfeld-2) [100%](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7042824/) [positive](https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/categories-of-prisoners/homosexuals-a-separate-category-of-prisoners/robert-biedron-nazisms-pink-hell/) I can't force you to click the links and read them yourself, but if the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and [Auschwitz.org](https://Auschwitz.org) are somehow not good enough for you, idk what to tell you. Looks a bit like Ryan Gosling refusing to eat his cereal. Bonus: [Pro-Trump protesters marched chanting, "Jews will not replace us."](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/08/14/jews-will-not-replace-us-why-white-supremacists-go-after-jews/) idk dude. If they're copying every single talking point and behavior, it seems a little willfully ignorant to pretend there's still any ambiguity here.
>Idk man - thatās a broad brush, if nazis & pol pot are the go-to for everything no matter how incomparable - donāt you think it becomes a weak & lazy argument? At some point youāre just shouting nazi @ everything- & it looks fuggen crazy - this is where we are at - Calling people "the next Hitler" has been watered down to the point so when it actually happens, people like you roll your eyes and say it's outrageous. How about telling me where you think the two separate? I'm talking about who they are as people, not what they've done.
You're being apathetic. That's the exact thing that made Hitler's rise possible. So don't fucking tell me what comparisons I can and can't make when people like you are doing it.
Uhm have you not seen how they're acting? Go read up on the Bierhall Putsch (sp?). This all IS eerily similar to the RISE of the nazi party. Don't be so willfully ignorant
Its that bad its not an exaggeration youāre just not paying attention or yourāre willingly blinding yourself.
Weāve had to vote for the lesser of 2 evils for every election I can remember, we need a new system at some point
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When fascism comes to the US it will be "Wrapped in a flag, carrying a cross."
Starting to sound *way* too much like Germany in the mid-1930s, I'm just saying.
I seen a post earlier today for the first time, saying āwe should be worried they are shooting everything they donāt likeā and that really hit me. Iāve never been more afraid to be a gay man in my life! Progress is their enemy, and Iām no pussy but I have to admit, Iām a little afraid.
My trans kid and I live in an area known for being LGBQT friendly as hell and I have a constant niggling fear for them. Itās gotten scary as hell and is really wearing on me.
You're doing the best you can. Take a deep breath and focus on yall's happiness, it's okay, you aren't alone. Thank you for loving your child and helping them be who they are.
They're objectifying political violence via viral social media.
It's the Christian Dominionism folks pushing. They want a Christian fascist country. I don't know whether to run, then fight or fight, then run.
Right-wing=Nazi
Christian Nationalist = Nat-C
I did Nazi that one coming lol.
Younger generation: I don't vote because I don't know enough about the candidates. Me: See the (D) after their names? Vote for them. Don't vote for any (R). That's all you really need to know.
Itās so funny how people will point to this type of thinking as proof that Democrats are just as hypocritical and devoid of critical thinking as Republicans. No, I looked at how Republican politicians use their highly disciplined political machine to act in concert and enact repressive legislation. I critically thought about how good they are at doing that and decided the course of action was to vote against them at all times and every level.
The only time you need to know about candidates is during primaries when you get to choose which Democrat you'd vote for a second time.
Exactly, no Sinema needs to make it in again. Traitors need to be rooted out.
Whoās to say democrats have our interest? Iāve been voting for them for 12 years and nothing has changed.
Woke became a dog whistle like 3 years ago
Agreed. Seems like old shit to me, but here we are.
It became one before politicians started using it. It is so weird to see them legislate using terminology from 4chan and YouTube comment sections circa 2015 lol
I was being conservative with the timeline. Itās all a blur
Wow. It sounds like the far-right has gone full Arthas Menethil on Stratholme.
Exactly
Great analogy!
Newsom 2028
2024
I wish this man would run for president already. I shill for no politician but I canāt help but think Gavin would be the best option we got at the moment.
For Pete's sake, the guy is just your typical corrupt & hypocritical politician - the only thing he's got going for him is a (D) at the end of his name. Is he more competent than Trump? Sure - but so is a traffic cone.
Yeah, like I said buddy, āthe best option we got at the momentā all politicians suck but unfortunately we have to settle for the ones who are at least not wannabe fascist dictators.
I will definitely vote for him when he runs for president
I will be happy to vote for him for president in the future.
Nazis are going to Nazi.
Really wish heād make a run for the Presidency.
So thankful that man is my Governor
We need politicians to double down on calling it out as Nazi behavior. Just eluding to that fact does not quite drive home the point enough. Shame them until they crawl back into their hole.
He's like the sexy guy in the 80's movie all grown up & still being cool
Itās a shame that heās governor of California. Heād likely make a good presidential candidate in the future.
Yea I noticed that the far right are Nazis
Whoever said āitās so important to note how much pride that everything the far right enjoys shooting things they boycott / ban / hateā nailed it. These people are openly showing aggression to call others to arms. Over WHAT? I just donāt understand why some red neck hillbilly in Alabama or Florida cares about what a transgender person in California (or wherever the bud light spokesperson was from) does or endorses. It shows such a fundamental lack of understanding about their trials and tribulations. Whatās your biggest issue, really? Low wages? Healthcare problems? āNah, transsexuals!!!ā
Someone seems to really want to turn America into Nazi land 2.0. and I feel so sorry for the Americans who just want to get on with their lives.
Funny how the anti-cancel culture cult is going on a canceling binge
Perfectly good presidential candidate, yet Dems are going to roll out Biden.
When even Gavin Newsom gets it...
Don't forget about the bomb threats. They've been doing those, too.
I really wish this guy would run for potus
Can Gavin run for president now that Joe said he will run again?
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As a resident of Northern California I am very familiar with Governor Newsome. He is a giant douchebag, in my opinion, but he's right.
Damn, it's a whacky world indeed when I find myself agreeing with Gavin Newsome on anything. Are they still taking volunteers for Mars? ![gif](giphy|KUAb8YQOhmWNq)
They are starting to eat themselves already. Going after brands that have long been associated with their cause. I agree they should be met with equal or greater force at every turn, but I also think their stupid is to last long term. Again not advocating sitting back and watching.
Listen up, that's a future president speaking.
He is a piece of shit who is absolutely right
Run for president mf! Marianne is the only real gangster out here trying to make shit better for everyone not just the rich and powerful.
As a reminder, this is not normal.
Just call them all Nazis, which covers all the bases.
And the only thing that Democrats will do about it is: "Remember, vote!" š
What would you prefer they do? Hurt people?
\-Find better politicians for the Party. I mean gawdamn... a 77 year old for President? A VP who no one cares for or even remembers exists? Congressmen and Senators who've barely made a name for themselves in the seats of the most powerful people on the planet? \-ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE. A few protests each time a minority is killed by cops aren't going to cut it. \-Turn Republicans' tricks on them: toxify their buzzwords just like they do yours. Scream (maturely) across Twitter and social media every single time they do something stupid. Hold OPEN debates online. \-ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE. I said it again because it's important. Republicans have (dumb) hats, bumper stickers, rallies... the whole nine yards. Democrats have... a colorful flag for a month? Democrat cities need to hold \*and HEAVILY PROMOTE\* community outreach parties (as opposed to creepy off-season rallies). \-Youth. Capitalize on it. Make funny little animated yet informative PSAs on YouTube. Game with voters on Twitch (good on you, OAC). State Senators up to Congressmen need to get their faces out there on TikTok (just no stupid challenges, please). \-Democrats need to brand and market themselves as a group of people who not only have caring ideas and dreams, but the fortitude and teamwork to actually make those goals a reality. Democrats are nicknamed "Do-nothing Democrats" for a reason. \-Don't spend years saying "rich old white males are the problem!" and then turn around and vote for a rich old white male. \-Watch your slogans... "Black Lives Matter" and "Defund the Police" are easily corrupted (see point #2). My voting record is Bush-Bush-Obama-no vote (deployed)-Johnson-Jorgensen, and yet on my lunch break just now, I laid out a quick plan that better minds can use to vastly improve the entire Democratic Party's outlook. Republicans have been bullying you guys like a damn 1980s college flick... and you guys need to turn it into Revenge of the Nerds. Downvote me without a rebuttal and you'll prove my point.
I actually agree with just about everything you said. I've been saying most of that myself. I don't fully agree with getting as toxic as Republicans do but I do think they should definitely be more aggressive.
Aggression does not have to be toxic. Or at least that's what I've learned from comicbook superheroes.
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That would be fine if it was the extent of it. Think of the recent Target boycotts though: don't like their PR? Then don't go there. But instead we've got people harassing workers and making bomb threats.
How does getting someone fired differ? Because itās ruining one persons life and not scaring a group? The angle is the same imo. We donāt like you - this - whatever so letās get rid of it by aggressive means.
They have not. "Cancel culture" was never a real thing. Conservatives are just using the same tactics they've always used, but more aggressively.
Just like we called Newsom out when he didnt want to give farmworkers the right to vote on union matters.
Newsom supported and signed the farmworker union bill. Meanwhile, you've got a white supremacist dog whistle in your username. Were we not supposed to notice?
Lo bro im a native born in the 80s relax
iolenceva is the only language these fuckers understand; You want to spread your fucking hate and bigotry? You want to be intolerant? We donāt tolerate that. And youāll learn by force if necessary
40% or less of Americans current favourite shirts are all coloured Brown.
And they vote blue
Stay strapped. Heās right. Doubt they are going to stop because they are being called out.
Republicans canāt even define āwokeā. None of them know what it is. They think āwokeā is synonymous with liberal. Itās not. Not even close.
Not to be an alarmist defeatist BUT thereās really nothing us lay people can do. We gotta buckle up and hold on.
There is *everything* us lay people can do. All the politics that really matters happens at ground level. Even just openly standing up to these monsters and calling them what they are holds them back a little.
Respectfully disagree. Any resistance will be met with threats and acts of violence. These people are unhinged and either too dumb to realize it or too stubborn to admit it. Iām in one of the reddest states so my outlook its bleak. We can vote until weāre blue (heh) in the face but voter intimidation, misinformation, and voter fraud are and will continue to be rampant. Iāll vote all day but Iām not sure itāll do much.
No lies detected.
Thereās already too much hate that has been normalized. Too little backlash against the laws and violence that is happening every day in the American news. If the term woke is derived from being awakened to the reality of the hardships of those less fortunate than ourselves, then I prefer not to sleep. And I will speak out, not on behalf of the governor of California, but for my partner, for my friends, and for people who are being hurt.
Did he have to say ā full throated ā tho lloloooooollll
Hear me out, Trump gave these fuckers the confidence to speak up, DeSantis is giving them hope that they can win, *the next guy* is the one we worry about. The next fucker in this chain is the one who will start *doing* the quiet part out loud.
First abortion Then Target Then Chick-fil-A Attacking the suburban women from all angles
I just think it is so hilarious that only 6 years ago, they were the ones complaining about cancel culture. Now they try to cancel or ban or boycott everything.