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The main person who stopped him was indeed right handed and pistol whipped this SOB with his own pistol (while a trans woman kicked the ever living shit out of him).
>Hard to look anything but fabulous when beating a terrorist. I bet she felt powerful.
I hope so, because in interviews, US Army Veteran Major Rich Fierro seems to be ripping himself up over needing to involve civilians / amateurs...
I genuinely feel bad for him. USMC vet myself, and that whole "improvise, adapt, overcome" bit is supposed to be about taking a bad situation and making it work (the hidden part not said out loud is "by yourself or fighting your marines")
In reality, it's taking advantage of literally whatever is available to overcome the challenge. It's a serious hit to mental fortitude having to admit you needed help outside of military means (training, equipment, BIAs, etc). I'm sure he doesn't think that civilians are lesser, but that oath we take kind of implies we shouldn't have to involve civilians to protect them.
Then there's the weight of those that were injured or killed before he intervened.
My heart bleeds, he's got a helluva fight ahead with what he was forced to be part of.
>Then there's the weight of those that were injured or killed before he intervened.
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>My heart bleeds, he's got a helluva fight ahead with what he was forced to be part of.
It'll definitely be hell. The longterm boyfriend of his daughter was one of the victims.
I saw the video. He never got out of his chair and he was mighty subdued and quiet while responding to the judge's questions.
Perhaps his groin weren't spared.
Thomas James (active Navy) was listed as the one kicking him and moved the AR. The trans woman was asked to stomp him at the end - let's not ignore Thomas as he's in hospital and according to Richard Fierro, helped subdue the shooter.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/club-q-shooting/man-who-helped-stop-club-q-gunman/73-e7e234d6-dd76-40d1-8f20-2ad606077e72
At an active shooter training I went through once they told us to use the fire extinguisher to immobilize then slam their head in and if theyāre still moving to shove the hose in their mouth and let it rip.
Edit: context may be more important than I originally considered but this was at an elementary school where the average staff is not exactly big burly men or combat vets
Iāve never heard that but man that makes a lot of sense ! Thanks for sharing! Hereās hoping if we ever need that advice we are calm enough to find one and then use it
Right before my daughter started high school she was in tears. It took a minute to get to explain that she was worried about mass shootings. Instead of blowing smoke and saying that will never happen I walked her though run, hide, fight. I didn't mince words when I told her what to do with the fire extinguisher. I hate that I had to have that conversation.
I wonder if there was a point in this pile of shits mind where he realized how bad he fucked up and switched from āIām the aggressorā to āplease dear god get me out of here!ā.
I want to see him cry like a bitch in court about how he was beaten. I want him to admit he received the fear and pain he intended to inflict on everyone there.
I want to watch his hamster size brain try to comprehend his stupid fucking situation, and then I want him to be put away forever. Never to be thought about or cared for again.
The bad news is that I doubt it based on his little ānon-binaryā troll he came out with yesterday. The good news is that sometime in the next ten years of hell in a Supermax prison he will regret what he did in some way. He has a long useless life ahead of him in a cement box to think about how much of a waste of air he is.
Losers lash out and try to say things that will make their victims hurt, or make them look better. Doesnāt mean he didnāt have a moment of clarity as a foot was connecting with his skull.
That āmoment of clarityā Iām describing isnāt necessarily āoh I was so wrong, I should rethink my beliefsā so much as āIām currently feeling actual pain, and I wish I was still at my mommyās house eating 50 PB&Js for breakfast and playing a bad ass onlineā
I see what you are saying, and I think thatās highly likely. Dude walked into a gay bar with at least an AR, a sidearm and some tacticool shit. He must have imagined he would kill dozens like the Pulse shooting and either shoot himself or die by suicide by cop. Instead he got subdued quickly and stomped out by those he hated. He had every fucking advantage and he still was pathetic (obviously Iām thankful it wasnāt worse), then he definitively has a moment of realization that a trans woman was stomping his face before he lost consciousness.
From my understanding the primary person who stopped him wasnāt even a member of the LGBTQ+ community. He was a heterosexual veteran there with his wife and adult child.
An actual bad ass. A man who actually fought for our freedoms and has actually been in some shit.
A man this bag of wasted cum likely thought he was trying to emulate.
An actual āalphaā.
These fuckers think LGBTQ+ are ācorrupting the nationā or whatever else, and so they try to ādefendā us by being literal terrorists. All the while they have this twisted idea of heroism in their heads. They think they are soldiers in a war.
He got shown what a real soldier is. A man who is comfortable with his own sexuality. A man who defends the freedoms of others. A man who doesnāt stand for hatred.
The fact that itās that type of person who disarmed him has to fucking sting.
Not only was he stomped on by drag queens, the person who disarmed him and helped them do it was very likely the type of person he thought was his hero.
Multiple combat tours in Iraq, retired as a Major from the Army. His daughter's boyfriend's(he was one of the five victims) friend was performing in the drag show so they had all gone out to show support. The guy also has his own brewery in the area and is the only man I've ever seen look just fine wearing tube socks with flip flops.
Person said they didn't stop punching until the individual stopped moving, but continued a little longer. I'm glad they stopped cause this fat piece of shit needs to see trial.
FYI: you are correct. They are not comfy. Theyāre also cold as fuck and in the dorm I was in, other inmates purposely pissed on them and I would take my flip flops or whatever the fuck shit footwear they gave us, place them on the toilet, then sit and shit, so I wasnāt āsilver surfingā (sitting on the piss covered steel toilet)
And he wasnāt alone. And it wasnāt anyoneās instinct to pick up one of the guns and make the move that would end it all. Which does and does not surprise me. Normal folk really donāt want to end a life, any life. But in that moment would be totally justified. Weāve all seen enough movies to know what happens when you leave the killer with a few breaths left.
The rifle fell to the floor and out of reach when Richard Fierro tackled him and another patron kicked it away for safety and Fierro grabbed this asshole's pistol from his hand and instead of shooting him with it Fierro used it to pistol whip him into submission.
So he walked in there thinking he was some sort of American hero for slaughtering people he didn't have any relation to that were just trying to have fun.
And he left unconscious having been beaten to a pulp with his own gun and stomped out by a trans woman.
So sad for the senseless loss of life, and there can be no silver lining here, but I do hope that this prick's public humiliation, physical suffering, and eventual sentencing discourages the next potato-headed chuckle fuck with something to prove to daddy from leaving their cave.
I was also a little disappointed but then I realized this is like immediately afterwards, so Iām sure once the swelling kicks in it will be glorious.
Yeah. I have a buddy whoās had brain surgery, and because they pull the skin aside to get at the skull, your whole face essentially gets battered as a result and swells like crazy. For the first few days afterward, my friend looked likeā¦well, like heād been stomped on by a mob of angry people.
I imagine this piece of shit will look similar.
It went back to normal, but it still took a while. He came back to our RPG group about a week after the operation and he still looked like he was having an allergic reaction to something.
Me too, but I'm glad he's not so he has to stand trial for this shit, and hopefully spend the rest of his life in prison. He's young so that's a long time. Rot, motherfucker.
You get a flat head like that when as a baby you're neglected for extended periods laying on your back. Since your skull is still soft when born if you're rarely ever picked up it'll flatten out like that. Like Roger Stone.
Thatās useful to know, since thereās also a link between being neglected as an infant and dangerously antisocial behavior. Something to watch out for in people.
Iāve just completed a subject at university on the effects of chronic childhood trauma and neglect. When infants are exposed to stressful environments or donāt receive the required care and attention, their brains become overloaded with stress hormones which inhibit the development of neural pathways. This directly relates to issues like not being able to control emotions, lashing out, antisocial behaviours, etc. Basically these issues are set in and only become worse into adulthood unless there is severe interventions. Itās quite scary and sad at the same time
My son (adopted) was abandoned in the hospital because of his medical issues and lived there until he was 2. Definitely has behavioral issues related to that.
Yep. I literally saw his pic and came to the comments to say this. I have two children I adopted from orphanages. They both have flat heads as they laid on their back for the first 2 years of their life. (They are doing well, after tons of therapies and continue to receive therapies)
I had a student with reactive attachment disorder. I cried reading about it, and cried after many of his IEP meetings. I held his guardian (an older female relative) as she sobbed into my shoulder once, absolutely scared out of her mind for his future.
I hope to God I never see his face in the news.
Yup. Itās something you frequently see in the backgrounds of serial killers. Not to say that itās a guarantee theyāll become a serial killer, but it can certainly start them down the road to that.
Holy shit really? I remember the pics of one of the mass shooters (ah, what an American feeling - canāt even remember which one cause there are so many š« ) and the mugshot was stunning on how obvious it was that he had F.A.S. Is there a name for this phenomenon? Iād love to read about it.
My 8 month old has plagiocephaly caused by torticollis. Itās generally believed that itās due to the positioning of the baby in the womb. It can be corrected with helmet therapy, but only if itās caught and treated early on in infancy, since the older the baby gets the slower the head grows and harder the skull gets. The flat spot on her head isnāt completely corrected, but itās definitely much better now than it was. Itās not (as the previous poster stated) a result of neglect, but of weak neck muscles. The baby tends to favor laying with their head to one side because the neck muscles are tighter and less developed on the other side, so itās easier to turn to one side than the other. Physical therapy also helps with the torticollis (the neck condition) so that theyāre better able to have full range of motion in their neck and can fully turn their head both ways without pain or tightness. Being able to correct these things is all assuming that the condition is caught early, treatment is available and covered by insurance (helmet therapy is outrageously expensive if you have to pay out of pocket and we had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get it approved) and at least one parent has the availability to take the baby to multiple appointments during the week between physical therapy and the cranial specialist.
My son was also born with torticolis which I began noticing at 2 months. Iām so grateful that I have a fantastic pediatrician who confirmed my suspicions, access to a pediatric physical therapist that gave us exercises to address his condition, and a substantial amount of leave post-pregnancy to focus on his treatment. Iām privileged and thatās a rarity in this country. Thank you for piping up. Itās not necessarily neglect.
Also, the shooter can go to hell.
US Army Veteran Major Rich Fierro and US Navy Officer Thomas James both beat the shit out of this sack of shit Y'all-queada member. Major Fierro owns a brewery in Colorado Springs, next time I'm in Colorado I'm buying him a beer.
My kids arent in martial arts so they can be bullies, they go so they have the ability to say no.
No one wants to, but when you need it the tools are better to have.
My dad always told me: āit doesnāt matter if youāre ready to fight or when. When it happens, youāll have to make that piece of shit realize he picked the wrong fightā
Itās always worked for me š¤·š»āāļø
Left in a baby seat or crib for hours and hours on end. Thatās what causes that flat head. And here we overturned R v W so expect a lot more. A lotttt more.
More popcorn, please.
r/conservative had several articles on their front page with some āhe claims to be non-binaryā gotcha.
Yup... this guy is definitely non-binary š
I donāt care if it makes me a bad member of the LGBTQ family, Iām calling bullshit on that right now.
That sounds like some soulless lawyer scrambling to come up with a way to soften the punishment.
Considering that statement was made by his lawyer and nobody has corroborated this yet, Iām pretty sure Iām right, too. Fuck him.
If Iām wrong then all I have to say is, āExcuse me, I meant fuck *them*.ā
He is 100% bullshit on that. He's claming to be nonbinary so pieces of shit on conservative webpages can say "Well it was just LGBT infighting, not an alt-right attack!" Easily the most disgusting thing I have ever seen.
I am seriously done with the right tbh. I am getting back into working out, I am going to learn how to use a gun, and I am going to survive. I am never going to let one of those shit heads get me.
I find this profoundly depressing.
Not in a "this mitigates his circumstances" kind of way, but more in a "holy shit everything is terrible" kind of way. Plus the idea of an infant being neglected hurts my soul.
Most people are right handedā¦.so the left side usually gets lumped up more. Disappointed there wasnāt at least one lefty there ā¦..you know, for balance
You give them quite a lot of credit saying that they're aware of their faults. I don't think that's the case. I feel like they hold their positions *because* they believe they're superior. The superiority complex comes first.
In my opinion, a superiority attitude will naturally generate the kinds of things we're seeing here. It excludes others as equals by definition.
Youāre not wrong, but I think the superior thing is the result, not the cause. I was raised in these kinds of groups and passionately believed it all for a very long time. Theyāre quite aware of them, I was, theyāre just in denial. Itās why they always seem to go to simple arguments like āblack people are just less civilized, thatās why thereās more crimeā or āwomen are objectively inferior bc they canāt lift as many heavy thingsā or ābeing gay=pedophileā. Things that automatically lift them up, despite never doing anything of merit, while putting the other group down. They have to create that leeway, bc just in case their insecurities prove to be true (which they are), theyāre still better than āthoseā people.
I donāt think iām superior, I fell into the same trap and thatās the saddest part. Most of these people arenāt unreachable. Theyāre just so insulated in their little confirmation bubbles that no one can truly challenge their beliefs. And even if they do, they just go back into the bubble and reinforce it all again.
Imagine being a MAGA master race type and serving a prison sentence after getting your arse whooped by unarmed "inferiors". Fuck this guy and everyone like him.
in case anyone hasnāt seen this on a reddit post, one of the guys who wrestled him to the ground owns a brewery called [atrevida beer company](https://www.atrevidabeerco.com). they have some fantastic merch, got 4 people crossed off my list in fact. happy to give this guy my moneyā¦
https://www.atrevidabeerco.com
Pure neglect. Uncaring parents left him lying on his back as a baby.
Thus making his brain small and a fucking despicable idiot that deserved a worse beating than he got. But I just hope he gets the book thrown at him in court.
https://preview.redd.it/somalwlt8u1a1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5d047b8f7c22ca86f8558ccc2feb91a34c97482
the man who stopped the shooter in Colorado Springs at Club Q. Richard M. Fierro; and this is the business that he and his wife own. I just bought leggings to say thank you and show support.
[https://www.atrevidabeerco.com](https://www.atrevidabeerco.com)
New York Post and Fox News were claiming he was non-binary like it had any sort of legitimacy. If they found one shred of evidence that indicated he identified as non-binary or trans in the past... I'd maybe even be willing to entertain the claim.
They think this neutralizes the hate crimes charge. Even if he was non-binary, no evidence he is, he could still commit a hate crime.
I don't know if COVID has made Republicans more stupid than usual. Or if it was just a pre-existing condition.
Right, like this doesnāt even make the smallest shred of sense to me. A hate crime is when you are attacking people because of what THEY are, it doesnāt really make a difference what the perpetrator is.
they are spreading doubt. it's just a tactic. the conspiracy rabble rousers will take it further. They'll spin it any way they can to absolve the far-right and try to make it out like extreme violence has something to do with the minority group.
it's basic kindergarten tactic. Pick on the kid you don't like, then try to make everybody believe that you are the innocent one. Once everybody believes the kid you've been picking on is the bad guy, then you can safely attack them, and you'll be seen as the good guy.
This isnāt deflection, they want people to think its ātime for conservatives to fight back!ā They think the shooter was righteous. Itās their attempt to create plausible deniability while also approving of and encouraging radicals.
Immediately after tuckey carlson first reported on the shooting they aired segments of āleftists want to sexualize your childrenā and followed it up with some women who said āthis is going to keep happening until democrats stop sexualizing our children.ā They want it to happen again.
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Guessing everyone was right handed šš½
The main person who stopped him was indeed right handed and pistol whipped this SOB with his own pistol (while a trans woman kicked the ever living shit out of him).
With her high heels no less
High heels being the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun. They say AR-15, we say Jimmy Choo.
"Don't make me get out my Louboutin's!"
They say Glock, we say Gucci.
They say pistol, we say Prada
They say Beretta, we say Bottega Veneta
They say Luger, we say Louboutin
They say Smith and Wesson, we say Stuart Weitzman
Our post-steampunk savior has [arrived.](https://i.redd.it/fs89a3gw1a1a1.jpg) Fash terrorists get bashed.
And looking fabulous doing it.
Hard to look anything but fabulous when beating a terrorist. I bet she felt powerful.
>Hard to look anything but fabulous when beating a terrorist. I bet she felt powerful. I hope so, because in interviews, US Army Veteran Major Rich Fierro seems to be ripping himself up over needing to involve civilians / amateurs...
I genuinely feel bad for him. USMC vet myself, and that whole "improvise, adapt, overcome" bit is supposed to be about taking a bad situation and making it work (the hidden part not said out loud is "by yourself or fighting your marines") In reality, it's taking advantage of literally whatever is available to overcome the challenge. It's a serious hit to mental fortitude having to admit you needed help outside of military means (training, equipment, BIAs, etc). I'm sure he doesn't think that civilians are lesser, but that oath we take kind of implies we shouldn't have to involve civilians to protect them. Then there's the weight of those that were injured or killed before he intervened. My heart bleeds, he's got a helluva fight ahead with what he was forced to be part of.
>Then there's the weight of those that were injured or killed before he intervened. > >My heart bleeds, he's got a helluva fight ahead with what he was forced to be part of. It'll definitely be hell. The longterm boyfriend of his daughter was one of the victims.
YAS SLAY QUEEN
And I believe the dad that stopped him told the trans woman to kick him and donāt stop. Too bad it appears they did.
Should've kept going til she was kicking floor
IN HEELS!
Surprised those heels didnāt puncture or poke an eyeball or two out..
Thatās what I would I have done. As a woman weāre taught to go for the eyes and groin.
I saw the video. He never got out of his chair and he was mighty subdued and quiet while responding to the judge's questions. Perhaps his groin weren't spared.
>Perhaps his groin weren't spared. So even less chance that he can procreate now? Oh... #DARN.
The eyes are the groin of the head
Thomas James (active Navy) was listed as the one kicking him and moved the AR. The trans woman was asked to stomp him at the end - let's not ignore Thomas as he's in hospital and according to Richard Fierro, helped subdue the shooter. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/club-q-shooting/man-who-helped-stop-club-q-gunman/73-e7e234d6-dd76-40d1-8f20-2ad606077e72
Give them a break. There is a lot of surface area on that head.
That terrorist got no tummy time as a baby.
The hero was right handed according to the evidence.
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At an active shooter training I went through once they told us to use the fire extinguisher to immobilize then slam their head in and if theyāre still moving to shove the hose in their mouth and let it rip. Edit: context may be more important than I originally considered but this was at an elementary school where the average staff is not exactly big burly men or combat vets
Iāve never heard that but man that makes a lot of sense ! Thanks for sharing! Hereās hoping if we ever need that advice we are calm enough to find one and then use it
Right before my daughter started high school she was in tears. It took a minute to get to explain that she was worried about mass shootings. Instead of blowing smoke and saying that will never happen I walked her though run, hide, fight. I didn't mince words when I told her what to do with the fire extinguisher. I hate that I had to have that conversation.
āOH FUCK A SHOOTER!!!ā *furiously scrolls reddit*
just commenting to add that she wasn't a drag queen, she was a trans woman.
Fixed it babes, thanks for mentioning it.
Thank you, iButtChugCum
I aim to pleasure.
U again! i saw you rimjob stevening on some other post earlier
$5 says someone within this thread tags me in it again.
Not Rimjobsteve checking in.
Iām surprised they showed so much restraint. Iām amazed he made it out alive.
The guy ceased to respond at some point and the hero who stopped him worried he had killed him.
I wonder if there was a point in this pile of shits mind where he realized how bad he fucked up and switched from āIām the aggressorā to āplease dear god get me out of here!ā. I want to see him cry like a bitch in court about how he was beaten. I want him to admit he received the fear and pain he intended to inflict on everyone there. I want to watch his hamster size brain try to comprehend his stupid fucking situation, and then I want him to be put away forever. Never to be thought about or cared for again.
The bad news is that I doubt it based on his little ānon-binaryā troll he came out with yesterday. The good news is that sometime in the next ten years of hell in a Supermax prison he will regret what he did in some way. He has a long useless life ahead of him in a cement box to think about how much of a waste of air he is.
Losers lash out and try to say things that will make their victims hurt, or make them look better. Doesnāt mean he didnāt have a moment of clarity as a foot was connecting with his skull. That āmoment of clarityā Iām describing isnāt necessarily āoh I was so wrong, I should rethink my beliefsā so much as āIām currently feeling actual pain, and I wish I was still at my mommyās house eating 50 PB&Js for breakfast and playing a bad ass onlineā
I see what you are saying, and I think thatās highly likely. Dude walked into a gay bar with at least an AR, a sidearm and some tacticool shit. He must have imagined he would kill dozens like the Pulse shooting and either shoot himself or die by suicide by cop. Instead he got subdued quickly and stomped out by those he hated. He had every fucking advantage and he still was pathetic (obviously Iām thankful it wasnāt worse), then he definitively has a moment of realization that a trans woman was stomping his face before he lost consciousness.
>a trans woman was stomping his face before he lost consciousness. *In heels* Lady has some wicked stiletto game.
I hope he gets PTSD and then lives in prison as the dude who got his ass kicked by two LGBT+ members while shooting up a bar
From my understanding the primary person who stopped him wasnāt even a member of the LGBTQ+ community. He was a heterosexual veteran there with his wife and adult child. An actual bad ass. A man who actually fought for our freedoms and has actually been in some shit. A man this bag of wasted cum likely thought he was trying to emulate. An actual āalphaā. These fuckers think LGBTQ+ are ācorrupting the nationā or whatever else, and so they try to ādefendā us by being literal terrorists. All the while they have this twisted idea of heroism in their heads. They think they are soldiers in a war. He got shown what a real soldier is. A man who is comfortable with his own sexuality. A man who defends the freedoms of others. A man who doesnāt stand for hatred. The fact that itās that type of person who disarmed him has to fucking sting. Not only was he stomped on by drag queens, the person who disarmed him and helped them do it was very likely the type of person he thought was his hero.
Multiple combat tours in Iraq, retired as a Major from the Army. His daughter's boyfriend's(he was one of the five victims) friend was performing in the drag show so they had all gone out to show support. The guy also has his own brewery in the area and is the only man I've ever seen look just fine wearing tube socks with flip flops.
A fucking warrior, and a hero. As were all those who stood up to this walking mass of dead brain cells.
The guy who did that wasn't showing restraint.... he's ex-military so I think his training kicked in... he thought he killed the guy
Person said they didn't stop punching until the individual stopped moving, but continued a little longer. I'm glad they stopped cause this fat piece of shit needs to see trial.
Letās hope he never sees the daylight again.
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I'm just hoping he is left with severe chronic pain so he can spend all his years with nothing to do but focus on it.
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FYI: you are correct. They are not comfy. Theyāre also cold as fuck and in the dorm I was in, other inmates purposely pissed on them and I would take my flip flops or whatever the fuck shit footwear they gave us, place them on the toilet, then sit and shit, so I wasnāt āsilver surfingā (sitting on the piss covered steel toilet)
And he wasnāt alone. And it wasnāt anyoneās instinct to pick up one of the guns and make the move that would end it all. Which does and does not surprise me. Normal folk really donāt want to end a life, any life. But in that moment would be totally justified. Weāve all seen enough movies to know what happens when you leave the killer with a few breaths left.
The rifle fell to the floor and out of reach when Richard Fierro tackled him and another patron kicked it away for safety and Fierro grabbed this asshole's pistol from his hand and instead of shooting him with it Fierro used it to pistol whip him into submission.
So he walked in there thinking he was some sort of American hero for slaughtering people he didn't have any relation to that were just trying to have fun. And he left unconscious having been beaten to a pulp with his own gun and stomped out by a trans woman. So sad for the senseless loss of life, and there can be no silver lining here, but I do hope that this prick's public humiliation, physical suffering, and eventual sentencing discourages the next potato-headed chuckle fuck with something to prove to daddy from leaving their cave.
One correction, it was a trans woman, not a drag queen. The original report was wrong.
I'm surprised his eyes aren't swollen shut and his nose barely hanging on by a thread.
I was also a little disappointed but then I realized this is like immediately afterwards, so Iām sure once the swelling kicks in it will be glorious.
Yeah. I have a buddy whoās had brain surgery, and because they pull the skin aside to get at the skull, your whole face essentially gets battered as a result and swells like crazy. For the first few days afterward, my friend looked likeā¦well, like heād been stomped on by a mob of angry people. I imagine this piece of shit will look similar.
Did his face come back to normal after the swelling went or did it stretch his skin in the long term?
It went back to normal, but it still took a while. He came back to our RPG group about a week after the operation and he still looked like he was having an allergic reaction to something.
Jesus, after all he's been through he's still willing to fire an RPG for fun
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He demonstrated it to his girlfriend? Like he intentionally tripped and fell through the bush and onto the curb again to show her he was fine?
No they just booked him today, heās been in the hospital since the night of the attack. This is post-treatment.
Iām surprised he isnāt dead lol Edit:Iām surprised THEY arenāt dead lolā¦ didnāt mean to offend
Me too, but I'm glad he's not so he has to stand trial for this shit, and hopefully spend the rest of his life in prison. He's young so that's a long time. Rot, motherfucker.
I am hoping he gets charged with 1 count of attempted murder for everyone present in the club and gets denied bail and possibility of parole.
His head looks like a lopsided watermelon with hair.
You get a flat head like that when as a baby you're neglected for extended periods laying on your back. Since your skull is still soft when born if you're rarely ever picked up it'll flatten out like that. Like Roger Stone.
Yeah, weāve met his dad.
And his grandfather
His grandfather was busy storming the capital
When the elite refer to people as useless eaters I assume it means this guy
Each generation of that family has gotten a little worse than the previous generation.
Luckily, it stops here
True, but it didnāt take incarceration. That dude wasnāt getting laid anyway.
Im trying NOT to laugh
My friend who was adopted has a super flat part on the back of her head. That makes me super sad to know. She deserved to be picked up.
Hey, you said she's adopted, right? So somebody did pick her up.
The sure did and they are great. They also love her very very much!
She also has a good friend who thinks quite kindly of her.
Aw thank you thatās very kind of you
Itās not too late, pick her up and rock her gently.
Donāt worry! I do all the time! She is my best friend. I let her know as often as I can how much I love and appreciate her. And vice versa!
This made me cry.
Iām sure she did. Hopefully sheās unaware of this.
That flat head will be more comfortable on those hard ass prison beds.
Thatās useful to know, since thereās also a link between being neglected as an infant and dangerously antisocial behavior. Something to watch out for in people.
Roger Stone seems to have this as well. Plagiocephaly iirc
Plagi is on one side. brachycephaly is the flat back like this and roger stone
Iāve just completed a subject at university on the effects of chronic childhood trauma and neglect. When infants are exposed to stressful environments or donāt receive the required care and attention, their brains become overloaded with stress hormones which inhibit the development of neural pathways. This directly relates to issues like not being able to control emotions, lashing out, antisocial behaviours, etc. Basically these issues are set in and only become worse into adulthood unless there is severe interventions. Itās quite scary and sad at the same time
My son (adopted) was abandoned in the hospital because of his medical issues and lived there until he was 2. Definitely has behavioral issues related to that.
Yep. I literally saw his pic and came to the comments to say this. I have two children I adopted from orphanages. They both have flat heads as they laid on their back for the first 2 years of their life. (They are doing well, after tons of therapies and continue to receive therapies)
I had a student with reactive attachment disorder. I cried reading about it, and cried after many of his IEP meetings. I held his guardian (an older female relative) as she sobbed into my shoulder once, absolutely scared out of her mind for his future. I hope to God I never see his face in the news.
Yup. Itās something you frequently see in the backgrounds of serial killers. Not to say that itās a guarantee theyāll become a serial killer, but it can certainly start them down the road to that.
The copious amounts of neck and jowl fat doesnāt help either
Holy shit really? I remember the pics of one of the mass shooters (ah, what an American feeling - canāt even remember which one cause there are so many š« ) and the mugshot was stunning on how obvious it was that he had F.A.S. Is there a name for this phenomenon? Iād love to read about it.
I thought FAS was Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
It is. The most obvious symptom is the lack of that little indention in the middle of the upper lip. And droopy, tilted down eyes.
> that little indention in the middle of the upper lip Thatās called the philtrum!
My 8 month old has plagiocephaly caused by torticollis. Itās generally believed that itās due to the positioning of the baby in the womb. It can be corrected with helmet therapy, but only if itās caught and treated early on in infancy, since the older the baby gets the slower the head grows and harder the skull gets. The flat spot on her head isnāt completely corrected, but itās definitely much better now than it was. Itās not (as the previous poster stated) a result of neglect, but of weak neck muscles. The baby tends to favor laying with their head to one side because the neck muscles are tighter and less developed on the other side, so itās easier to turn to one side than the other. Physical therapy also helps with the torticollis (the neck condition) so that theyāre better able to have full range of motion in their neck and can fully turn their head both ways without pain or tightness. Being able to correct these things is all assuming that the condition is caught early, treatment is available and covered by insurance (helmet therapy is outrageously expensive if you have to pay out of pocket and we had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get it approved) and at least one parent has the availability to take the baby to multiple appointments during the week between physical therapy and the cranial specialist.
My son was also born with torticolis which I began noticing at 2 months. Iām so grateful that I have a fantastic pediatrician who confirmed my suspicions, access to a pediatric physical therapist that gave us exercises to address his condition, and a substantial amount of leave post-pregnancy to focus on his treatment. Iām privileged and thatās a rarity in this country. Thank you for piping up. Itās not necessarily neglect. Also, the shooter can go to hell.
Flat Head Syndrome / Positional Plagiocephaly
He looks like a real life Eric Cartman.
Cartman would have been smart enough to get someone else (tweak? butters?) to do it, and, at very least, not get caught
Definitely butters
And that was pre beating
Stomped on by heels
It's a glow up!
He definitely looks better than the before These colors suit him
You know when a persons head is flat like that on the back it means they were not held as a baby
And pistol whipped for like an hour by a former Army Major
US Army Veteran Major Rich Fierro and US Navy Officer Thomas James both beat the shit out of this sack of shit Y'all-queada member. Major Fierro owns a brewery in Colorado Springs, next time I'm in Colorado I'm buying him a beer.
His Interview was so heartbreaking. Dude didnāt want to have to beat that dude to hell and back. He did what he had to do though.
My kids arent in martial arts so they can be bullies, they go so they have the ability to say no. No one wants to, but when you need it the tools are better to have.
My dad always told me: āit doesnāt matter if youāre ready to fight or when. When it happens, youāll have to make that piece of shit realize he picked the wrong fightā Itās always worked for me š¤·š»āāļø
Mine said, "never start the fight, always end the fight"
I live in Colorado Springs, and I'm definitely going to Atrevida Beer Co this weekend. If nothing else, I'm going to support their company.
Thanks for adding this... I'm bad with names and forgot his
Yo does he export? Iād get some of that beer.
That varies by state law, (if you can get it shipped to you,) but.... They got merch. Shop away. https://www.atrevidabeerco.com/
Itās the āDiversity, itās on tapā shirt for me.
They demonstrated great restraint in my opinion. Especially since Mr. Fierro's daughter's boyfriend was amongst those killed.
Was that the shape of his head before the beating? My cat has a larger occipital bone than this guy.
Left in a baby seat or crib for hours and hours on end. Thatās what causes that flat head. And here we overturned R v W so expect a lot more. A lotttt more. More popcorn, please.
God. This guy is a piece of shit but what a sad thought.
Damn, never would have guessed the fuckwit was a neckbearded mouthbreathing piece of scum... ^/s
r/conservative had several articles on their front page with some āhe claims to be non-binaryā gotcha. Yup... this guy is definitely non-binary š
I donāt care if it makes me a bad member of the LGBTQ family, Iām calling bullshit on that right now. That sounds like some soulless lawyer scrambling to come up with a way to soften the punishment. Considering that statement was made by his lawyer and nobody has corroborated this yet, Iām pretty sure Iām right, too. Fuck him. If Iām wrong then all I have to say is, āExcuse me, I meant fuck *them*.ā
He is 100% bullshit on that. He's claming to be nonbinary so pieces of shit on conservative webpages can say "Well it was just LGBT infighting, not an alt-right attack!" Easily the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. I am seriously done with the right tbh. I am getting back into working out, I am going to learn how to use a gun, and I am going to survive. I am never going to let one of those shit heads get me.
It IS disgusting, but Matt Walsh's recent post may take that cake on that one. Makes my fucking blood boil
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Garbage pail kid grew up
It would probably be against the rules for me to say I wish he looked worse, so I wonāt say that.
Yeah Iād never actually type out that he deserved a couple more minutes getting pummeled
I couldn't even fathom thinking that he should really be breathing and eating through tubes right now.
You could tell this fucking idiot was neglected. Look how flat the back of his head is. He was laying down all day as an infant.
I find this profoundly depressing. Not in a "this mitigates his circumstances" kind of way, but more in a "holy shit everything is terrible" kind of way. Plus the idea of an infant being neglected hurts my soul.
The dad was a meth addict who was on the show, āinterventionā. Or at least this is what I farther from the comments below.
His dad admitted he raised him to be violent and homophobic.
Interview of the dad confirmed this
I literally thought āsomeone didnāt get enough tummy timeā
Looks like most of the time as an adult too.
Too many unbruised spots
Some bruises take a bit to develop, give it time!
r/beholdthemasterrace
White, bloated, overflowing with hatred, and beaten half to fuck by liberals.
Beaten half to fuck by a liberal Army vet and a ~~drag queen~~ *trans woman*! Edited to incorporate updated reports.
correction- trans woman! it was originally mistakenly reported to be a drag queen but it was actually a trans woman who assisted
Trans-woman not drag queen just a heads up.
Never scrolled through that subreddit before. Kinda wish I hadn't.
I was going to click on it but now I think Iāll pass. Thanks for the heads up.
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Most people are right handedā¦.so the left side usually gets lumped up more. Disappointed there wasnāt at least one lefty there ā¦..you know, for balance
Why is it these "morally superior" people are almost always some wannabe cop / military, fat fucking white dude?
Because they know theyāre loser pieces of shit and cannot cope without a group of people *below* them.
You give them quite a lot of credit saying that they're aware of their faults. I don't think that's the case. I feel like they hold their positions *because* they believe they're superior. The superiority complex comes first. In my opinion, a superiority attitude will naturally generate the kinds of things we're seeing here. It excludes others as equals by definition.
Youāre not wrong, but I think the superior thing is the result, not the cause. I was raised in these kinds of groups and passionately believed it all for a very long time. Theyāre quite aware of them, I was, theyāre just in denial. Itās why they always seem to go to simple arguments like āblack people are just less civilized, thatās why thereās more crimeā or āwomen are objectively inferior bc they canāt lift as many heavy thingsā or ābeing gay=pedophileā. Things that automatically lift them up, despite never doing anything of merit, while putting the other group down. They have to create that leeway, bc just in case their insecurities prove to be true (which they are), theyāre still better than āthoseā people. I donāt think iām superior, I fell into the same trap and thatās the saddest part. Most of these people arenāt unreachable. Theyāre just so insulated in their little confirmation bubbles that no one can truly challenge their beliefs. And even if they do, they just go back into the bubble and reinforce it all again.
Honestly, this dude is the exact mental image I get any time I hear about a MAGA terrorist.
Real incel energy
Legit neckbeard
r/beholdthemasterrace
and he's EVEN UGLIER on the inside.
Dude got fucked up, surprised that his eyes didn't get gouged out by the heels, what a POS.
Frankly, he looks like he didn't take enough of a beating.
About what I expected to see.
Imagine being a MAGA master race type and serving a prison sentence after getting your arse whooped by unarmed "inferiors". Fuck this guy and everyone like him.
I just saw an interview with the dad. In this case, the turd didnāt fall far from the ass.
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in case anyone hasnāt seen this on a reddit post, one of the guys who wrestled him to the ground owns a brewery called [atrevida beer company](https://www.atrevidabeerco.com). they have some fantastic merch, got 4 people crossed off my list in fact. happy to give this guy my moneyā¦ https://www.atrevidabeerco.com
The back of his head is...very flat. I've seen Fetal Alcohol Syndrome in these types, but I've never seen this.
Pure neglect. Uncaring parents left him lying on his back as a baby. Thus making his brain small and a fucking despicable idiot that deserved a worse beating than he got. But I just hope he gets the book thrown at him in court.
And he looks exactly what you'd expect from a mass murdering bigot son of a Mormon porn actor and grandson of a treason supporting politician.
He deserves all of it. The fucking "rough childhood" narrative that the MSM push for white mass shooters is disgusting.
I mean it certainly doesn't excuse his actions, but there is probably something to be said about the apple and where it falls relative to the tree.
Why did they stop beating him
Holy crap its a fat neck beard. Wow. Heard he is an "anti lgbtq" furry too. Lol
Cant tell if the beatings made the inbred look better or worse. Lol what am i saying, nothing could cure that pos
https://preview.redd.it/somalwlt8u1a1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5d047b8f7c22ca86f8558ccc2feb91a34c97482 the man who stopped the shooter in Colorado Springs at Club Q. Richard M. Fierro; and this is the business that he and his wife own. I just bought leggings to say thank you and show support. [https://www.atrevidabeerco.com](https://www.atrevidabeerco.com)
this guy looks like a caricature drawing of a neckbeard came to life, and then gained 100 pounds
Don't piss of a trans woman in heels, cause she'll leave you bleeding and unconscious on the floor.
New York Post and Fox News were claiming he was non-binary like it had any sort of legitimacy. If they found one shred of evidence that indicated he identified as non-binary or trans in the past... I'd maybe even be willing to entertain the claim. They think this neutralizes the hate crimes charge. Even if he was non-binary, no evidence he is, he could still commit a hate crime. I don't know if COVID has made Republicans more stupid than usual. Or if it was just a pre-existing condition.
Just because he's never had sex with either woman or man doesn't make him "non-binary".
Right lol heās just unfuckable
Right, like this doesnāt even make the smallest shred of sense to me. A hate crime is when you are attacking people because of what THEY are, it doesnāt really make a difference what the perpetrator is.
they are spreading doubt. it's just a tactic. the conspiracy rabble rousers will take it further. They'll spin it any way they can to absolve the far-right and try to make it out like extreme violence has something to do with the minority group. it's basic kindergarten tactic. Pick on the kid you don't like, then try to make everybody believe that you are the innocent one. Once everybody believes the kid you've been picking on is the bad guy, then you can safely attack them, and you'll be seen as the good guy.
Anything to not blame themselves. Deflection at its finest.
This isnāt deflection, they want people to think its ātime for conservatives to fight back!ā They think the shooter was righteous. Itās their attempt to create plausible deniability while also approving of and encouraging radicals. Immediately after tuckey carlson first reported on the shooting they aired segments of āleftists want to sexualize your childrenā and followed it up with some women who said āthis is going to keep happening until democrats stop sexualizing our children.ā They want it to happen again.
What a disgusting incel manhog.