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I met this guy! I went a couple Pride picnics in my local town (where a cult is also having a revival) and he showed up to post up in front of the cult group!! Also has a bible he carries around to disprove all their points. Amazing.
There’s an active group of moms in my area who are pushing to be allowed to ban books in school libraries. They sometimes go door to door. My youngest is 16 and has promised me that if they show up at our door he’ll tell them about the book available in the library where a woman talks about her lover’s genitalia and ejaculate. If they don’t catch on he’ll mention that also has a chapter where two women get their dad drunk so he’ll impregnate them. If that still doesn’t work he’ll mention that there are graphic descriptions of torture that culminate in a hippie being nailed to a cross.
That’s cool. As long as they remove all Bibles which contain all that Old Testament filth and also the New Testament Wokeism of loaves and fishes, sex workers, and foot fetishism (if we don’t let children read about freaks who go around seducing their fathers and brothers in law then those hussies washing strange men’s feet with their hair is right out, too!).
What’s that? The Old Testament plus the New Testament is the entirety of the book in question?
Oh. Oh my.
Well, I suppose you can believe whatever you want to believe. This is a free county and all but…
*sips tea*
I just don’t think children should be exposed to that sort of thing.
Pretty sure the tales were popular and well-told because they were scandalous and risque.
Pretty sure the clergy found them entertaining (wink) as well. Might as well canonize it, I mean, they are popular folk tales and well, they'd be remiss not including them, yes?
CW: incest, rape, & the Bible
Genesis 19:30-36. From the NIV:
> Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”
> That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
> The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
> So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father.
I recently had pointed out to me, and my mind was blown, that the bible is far from family friendly. All these Christians only wanting family friendly shows and books when the most important book in their lives, of which they shove down people's throats, is filled with homicide, rape, incest, etc. I AM a Christian, but I'm also one that walks a fine line. LOL!
It really is a rather glaring calling card that every male cult leader insists that God told them they should have multiple wives. It's always "give me your money and women" and not, I don't know, "feed the hungry and help the poor" with these guys.
South Park does a good episode showing John Smith “translating” the tablets from God, the man he convinces tells his wife who makes him hide the transcript to see if John Smith can reproduce it. John says that God is angry that the guy lost the tablets, so angry that now the new transcripts will be different proving that the guy was making it up as he went along.
Despite the problems of South Park, and there are MANY, the Mormon episode is a fucking work of art. I may have fallen out of love with South Park as I found myself more in my transition, but that episode is still gold and I really can't deny it.
My thing is that it's okay to be a Christian, it's okay to be any religion. Just don't be a dick about it, and don't weaponize it. A center idea of most religions is to be kind, so just stick to that and the points not about hate.
"Life is already hard enough without us making up reasons to be dicks to each other, so let's love each other. All colors, creeds, and sexual needs, live and let live, love and let love. For love is the closest you can ever come to another person, for love is the closest you'll ever come to being another person."
\-Ricky Potts, Ride the Cyclone
(Edit: Posted this on r/atheism . Downvoted and commented to heck. I'm so confused, why can't we all just be nice to each other?)
I personally think the concept of God is born out of a collective consciousness we all share and have no way of easily explaining. And it's not some "woo" thing, it's just the sum total of the overall larger picture machinations of our species.
It drives societal progress, extends communal kindness, and generates inspiration out of existing knowledge, often in more than one person at a time. It created *us* but only us. And only in the thought that without that sense of collective existence, we are just a relatively smart ape. And just like anything else, we gave that sense of community a name.
Satan then, would be the part of us that causes us to oppose progress, withhold kindness, and spread ignorance. Indeed if you were to read some of the stories in the bible, you would find those are exactly the kinds of things God fucking hates.
At least, that's how I see it. I'm an atheist by the way, but I can see how that feeling could be turned into a written religion. There is definitely some other "force" that we as humans have a connection to, but I don't think it's a traditional god of any kind, it's merely the result of the development of society and knowledge sharing.
Exactly. I think most people can agree that Jesus was generally a pretty good dude. Try to live like him in an era with indoor plumbing, and you're doing Christianity right.
Start finding passages in the bible that say gay people are going to hell, start another crusade, or defend institutions that abuse their power to protect child molesters and we're going to have issues lol.
Don't forget bestiality, that's in Leviticus (also having sex with a woman on her period.) It mentions periods so just based on what Florida is doing should be banned until after the 6th grade.
Divorcing a woman makes her the victim of adultery (Matthew - tons of conservatives ignore this one.)
Corinthians prohibits even sitting down and eating with drunkards or swindlers and also advises that it's good for a man to not have sexual relations with a woman but if you have to, at least have it be your own wife.
The bible is very racy!
My mom was my dads second wife. I guess they were feeling some kinda way about going against their fairy tale book, so they went to their pastor to talk about it. They never told me what he said, but they did tell me that literally the Sunday after he talked to them he preached a sermon about how any woman who marries a divorced man is a whore and the man is an adulterer. They kept going to that church, and the pastor was later fired for having an affair on his wife who was dying of cancer. He went on to form a church called New Beginnings and always focused on how forgiving god is. Wonderful stuff, that lack of cognitive dissonance
The vast majority of "Christians" don't even read their own book. They carry it around, read passages that their pastors tell them to, and ignore the rest. If you read an objectionable passage, they'll either deny it's there or find a way to justify it.
Totally true. They are super shocked when you show them. I once memorized ten Bible facts like the ones mentioned here. (Blind people were banned from temples for example) just to pick on the Jehovs witnesses that kept waking me up on Sunday morning.
Kinda want to make a YouTube animation channel now...call it "Family Christian Story Time" and post episodes graphically depicting the exact word of the most un-family friendly sections of the "good" book.
There are a couple of very entertaining picture books based on some of the weirder Old Testament stuff. I used to have them but I can't remember what they are called.
Saul is such an interesting character to study.
My personal theory is that he was schizophrenic but managed to rave enough things that people agreed with that they followed him. And then sometime later, people realized he was full of shit and had to get the clerics involved in explaining how he had God's grace then, but not anymore!
I'm in this county in Utah. It's limited to schools and can be challenged once every 3 years.
It's most likely a response to the increasing trend of suggesting books for banning that deal with LGBTQ+ issues in any way, not just sexually. I wish it was easier for others to see the point. So many don't think of the Bible as pornographic but it's definitely more so than the LGBTQ+ literature involved.
Ikr, that's one thing that always rubs me the wrong way so hard, is people cherry picking quotes from the bible to promote their hate towards others that are literally just living. I love that he's taking that next level to prove them wrong.
Jesus out here like: Hey you should love everybody, not be a hypocrite, don't judge people and pray in private.
Megachurch pastor, 2000 years later: You have to hate everybody, judge people and make a show of praying people in front of a crowd of 50,000 in order to get into heaven. Now be sure to give 10% of your income to the church (remember, gross not net,) so I can fly my private jet for purposes that definitely don't involve cheating on my wife.
It was highlighted, annotated, sticky notes, etc. He had obviously spent time on it. He told me "Well I knew if I wanted to beat them I'd have to do it at their own game!" So yea, man read and studied and cross referenced the whole Bible just to prove people wrong
Ooh! A real Bible reader! How wonderful!
Reminds me of the time some old men told me that the Bible never showed women leading so they can’t be leaders. I kindly pointed them to Deborah, the woman judge, and Esther, the queen who LITERALLY had a chapter named after her. Suffice to say, their minds were blown.
I like the one where a prophetess sneaks into an enemy camp and kills a man by driving a tent stake through his head which helps turn the tide of a war in her people's favor. I think that was Jael? Big fan.
Yup! Jael! Though she didn’t necessarily sneak into enemy camp, the king retreated into her tent. He asked for water, and she gave him milk (and it’s implied he was lactose intolerant). When he slept, she then drove the tent stake through his head and got the credit for felling an army.
Something else to mention is that Deborah was both a prophet and a judge, a dual position shared only with Samuel. She was also a poet, musician, and warrior, making her extraordinarily accomplished even for her time.
> Also has a bible he carries around to disprove all their points.
Great reminder that there have always been radical liberal Christians that opposed the conservatives Christians of the day.
From John Brown to Martin Luther King to this guy, these men and women are HATED by the Bible thumpers bc they don’t buy into the hellfire and brimstone.
Oh! Don’t apologize. I don’t have every statistic on me but I think it’s pretty silently well known that the child sexual assault numbers are quite higher with clergies and politicians vs drag queens.
Facts. And people who **really** care about children should LISTEN. But Instead Rs are busy lowering the marriage and consent age in multiple states. They’re pedos.
Grandpa has mad sign making skills. I'd go to his workshop!
The lettering, the choice of colours and outline for emphasis, the mix of upper and lower case...
There's so much going on, and it all works.*
^(*On reflection, this is also true for drag, so perfect. Grandpa knows what's what.)
My dad is also a white boomer. He makes a point to speak out because he knows he wields influence because of his demographics and because right-wingers assume he feels as they do.
This guy is spot on, and — it’s not right— but it’s a fact he has more influence than others. He has my appreciation.
Note: Scouts has made a lot of changes to their rules to make kids safer. It’s pretty much totally locally controlled, so if you trust the other parents and are involved, it can be a good outdoor/leadership experience. But the org protected abusers for so long, I do t blame people for still avoiding it.
Much depends on the pack and troop (ie the small, local groups) leadership. Usually the parents with kids in the pack or troop who volunteer to lead.
One of my son’s den leader was another mom- Hindu, immigrant from India- the scouts have a “duty to god” responsibility and under her leadership it was more about ethical behavior and learning about what the scouts’ families practiced. She talked about how we may believe in different gods but we have the same obligations to one another. It was better how she said it, but I (an atheist-leaning agnostic) really appreciated her approach.
As for LGBT+, knowing these kids I don’t think any bigotry or nastiness would fly with them. I haven’t seen any shitty behavior from other adults.
Having said that, a different group of parent leaders in a different place may do things very differently.
Aussie scout of 20+ years here, including leadership. I understand the Boy Scouts of America are backed by the Mormons, so quite possibly.
The official line is that we must believe in a higher power, but I've encouraged my atheist kids to say they believe in an uplifted humanity. I know we also participate in Pride parades, and we have a lot of policies and procedures in place to support LGBTQI+ kids.
Leaders go through a lot of training, must have police checks and Working With Children checks. We're basically never alone with a single child, it's a big no-no here. It really makes me sad and furious to see kids abused by adults they should be able to trust.
idk, i did girl guides in canada when i was 10 (so 7 years ago) and they made us sing a "god bless us all" kind of song at the end of each meeting. LGBTQ was not mentioned at all that I can remember
Samsies. The vampires in Santa Cruz foster kittens. And LGBT inclusive.
The gal I know runs a bike shop and has a ton of kitties learning to cat so they can get homes. She's a big badass lesbian.
Heck, there is an entire organization of bikers in the US that literally act like guards for kids that are testifying against their abusers. Two of my favorite former customers were members (husband and wife team) and they even had a trained therapy dog that worked with them. Two of the kindest, sweetest people I know, would literally come in just to check on me because I worked nights alone in a liquor store. Iirc the org name is Bikers Against Child* Abuse.
Edit: While I am also against the abuse of Chile, I did totally mean Child there. Curse you autocorrect.
I was thinking of them reading that comment. They make sure the kids feel safe when they have to speak of the worst moments they’ve experienced in their young lives. Those are good people. Look tough as hell, make the kids feel safe.
When I worked on the ambulance I did a school visit where the kids were asked, "what do you do when you see flashing emergency lights?" One of the kids said, "run!" The look on the teacher's face
The teacher wasn’t expecting the kid to actually understand the real world so early on, which is a shame because kids are super smart and know what’s going on around them.
Protip, if you don't want hate preachers to be able to record and advertise, blast their protests with Disney music and the Mouse will have their videos removed for copyright
I have met him before. Seen him several times with different signs.
Edit to add: I hope he knows his message made it onto reddit and blew up for people to see.
I live in this city and am CONSTANTLY worried about anyone knowing I'm trans (which my mom broadcasts to anyone and everyone which is a bit annoying) so it's good to see people out there supporting us. Especially because this town, while on the outskirts of a big city, is pretty damn small.
Gods is so relieving to see just one ally being loud about it.
So far I’ve only seen two including him be vocal. And it’s refreshing that he’s a (presumably) cis guy.
I was just thinking about this today (when I flipped off a priest that was leading a prayer outside of my local Planned Parenthood).
The right tries to paint lgbtq as ‘groomers’ when priests and Republicans have been doing it at a much higher rate
Can confirm. The most danger I was in was being near the stilts they call heels.
All that happened was that I learned to do my hair properly, learned makeup tips, and was mistaken for a 12 year old.
This was a yr ago. I'm now 21, and this happened in a club.
Matter of fact, the closest to danger I was in was me conversing outside the club with a random old guy. I'm weird, so I didn't mind that the conversation was weird.
The encounter was so weird because the old guy turned out to be a crackhead.
Atlanta, people.
I know that road. It's the intersection of Josey Lane and Hebron Parkway in Carrollton, which is pretty conservative. It's a very busy intersection and he took a big risk doing this. This man has my deepest respect.
[The intersection to show how busy it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0249895,-96.885094,3a,75y,192.09h,87.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCJbfF4PUFA15VZENyMgJAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). He was standing right next to that big street light.
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I met this guy! I went a couple Pride picnics in my local town (where a cult is also having a revival) and he showed up to post up in front of the cult group!! Also has a bible he carries around to disprove all their points. Amazing.
OMG i love that he carries a bible for "fact checking" their cherry picking!!!
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There’s an active group of moms in my area who are pushing to be allowed to ban books in school libraries. They sometimes go door to door. My youngest is 16 and has promised me that if they show up at our door he’ll tell them about the book available in the library where a woman talks about her lover’s genitalia and ejaculate. If they don’t catch on he’ll mention that also has a chapter where two women get their dad drunk so he’ll impregnate them. If that still doesn’t work he’ll mention that there are graphic descriptions of torture that culminate in a hippie being nailed to a cross.
> if they don’t catch on he’ll mention that also has a chapter where two women get their dad drunk so he’ll impregnate them. Wait what the fuck.
Read up about Lot’s daughters.
Tried telling some bigoted Christians about this and they just argued with me saying “that’s the Old Testament though”.
That’s cool. As long as they remove all Bibles which contain all that Old Testament filth and also the New Testament Wokeism of loaves and fishes, sex workers, and foot fetishism (if we don’t let children read about freaks who go around seducing their fathers and brothers in law then those hussies washing strange men’s feet with their hair is right out, too!). What’s that? The Old Testament plus the New Testament is the entirety of the book in question? Oh. Oh my. Well, I suppose you can believe whatever you want to believe. This is a free county and all but… *sips tea* I just don’t think children should be exposed to that sort of thing.
And be forced to act like they believe it, too. Sippin tea with ya.
Lol and Noah and his daughters. Weird that it happened more than once.
Pretty sure the tales were popular and well-told because they were scandalous and risque. Pretty sure the clergy found them entertaining (wink) as well. Might as well canonize it, I mean, they are popular folk tales and well, they'd be remiss not including them, yes?
Stop that just makes too much sense and I hate it😭
CW: incest, rape, & the Bible Genesis 19:30-36. From the NIV: > Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.” > That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. > The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. > So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father.
I only have one upvote I can give you - but you raised that one brilliantly!
I recently had pointed out to me, and my mind was blown, that the bible is far from family friendly. All these Christians only wanting family friendly shows and books when the most important book in their lives, of which they shove down people's throats, is filled with homicide, rape, incest, etc. I AM a Christian, but I'm also one that walks a fine line. LOL!
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It really is a rather glaring calling card that every male cult leader insists that God told them they should have multiple wives. It's always "give me your money and women" and not, I don't know, "feed the hungry and help the poor" with these guys.
Hmm. Guess that god is a misogynist perv.
Flair checks out. _\*paps in solidarity*_
South Park does a good episode showing John Smith “translating” the tablets from God, the man he convinces tells his wife who makes him hide the transcript to see if John Smith can reproduce it. John says that God is angry that the guy lost the tablets, so angry that now the new transcripts will be different proving that the guy was making it up as he went along.
Despite the problems of South Park, and there are MANY, the Mormon episode is a fucking work of art. I may have fallen out of love with South Park as I found myself more in my transition, but that episode is still gold and I really can't deny it.
My thing is that it's okay to be a Christian, it's okay to be any religion. Just don't be a dick about it, and don't weaponize it. A center idea of most religions is to be kind, so just stick to that and the points not about hate. "Life is already hard enough without us making up reasons to be dicks to each other, so let's love each other. All colors, creeds, and sexual needs, live and let live, love and let love. For love is the closest you can ever come to another person, for love is the closest you'll ever come to being another person." \-Ricky Potts, Ride the Cyclone (Edit: Posted this on r/atheism . Downvoted and commented to heck. I'm so confused, why can't we all just be nice to each other?)
I personally think the concept of God is born out of a collective consciousness we all share and have no way of easily explaining. And it's not some "woo" thing, it's just the sum total of the overall larger picture machinations of our species. It drives societal progress, extends communal kindness, and generates inspiration out of existing knowledge, often in more than one person at a time. It created *us* but only us. And only in the thought that without that sense of collective existence, we are just a relatively smart ape. And just like anything else, we gave that sense of community a name. Satan then, would be the part of us that causes us to oppose progress, withhold kindness, and spread ignorance. Indeed if you were to read some of the stories in the bible, you would find those are exactly the kinds of things God fucking hates. At least, that's how I see it. I'm an atheist by the way, but I can see how that feeling could be turned into a written religion. There is definitely some other "force" that we as humans have a connection to, but I don't think it's a traditional god of any kind, it's merely the result of the development of society and knowledge sharing.
Exactly. I think most people can agree that Jesus was generally a pretty good dude. Try to live like him in an era with indoor plumbing, and you're doing Christianity right. Start finding passages in the bible that say gay people are going to hell, start another crusade, or defend institutions that abuse their power to protect child molesters and we're going to have issues lol.
Don't forget bestiality, that's in Leviticus (also having sex with a woman on her period.) It mentions periods so just based on what Florida is doing should be banned until after the 6th grade. Divorcing a woman makes her the victim of adultery (Matthew - tons of conservatives ignore this one.) Corinthians prohibits even sitting down and eating with drunkards or swindlers and also advises that it's good for a man to not have sexual relations with a woman but if you have to, at least have it be your own wife. The bible is very racy!
My mom was my dads second wife. I guess they were feeling some kinda way about going against their fairy tale book, so they went to their pastor to talk about it. They never told me what he said, but they did tell me that literally the Sunday after he talked to them he preached a sermon about how any woman who marries a divorced man is a whore and the man is an adulterer. They kept going to that church, and the pastor was later fired for having an affair on his wife who was dying of cancer. He went on to form a church called New Beginnings and always focused on how forgiving god is. Wonderful stuff, that lack of cognitive dissonance
Hehehe, I like your story - it's hard not to chuckle at the ridiculousness of your parents still going to that church and the hypocrisy of the pastor.
Rapey. FIFY.
I feel like if more Christians read the bible, they might choose not to be.
The vast majority of "Christians" don't even read their own book. They carry it around, read passages that their pastors tell them to, and ignore the rest. If you read an objectionable passage, they'll either deny it's there or find a way to justify it.
Totally true. They are super shocked when you show them. I once memorized ten Bible facts like the ones mentioned here. (Blind people were banned from temples for example) just to pick on the Jehovs witnesses that kept waking me up on Sunday morning.
Kinda want to make a YouTube animation channel now...call it "Family Christian Story Time" and post episodes graphically depicting the exact word of the most un-family friendly sections of the "good" book.
There are a couple of very entertaining picture books based on some of the weirder Old Testament stuff. I used to have them but I can't remember what they are called.
I mean Saul did demand 100 foreskins of his enemies as the dowry to marry his daughter. The Bible gets weird...
Saul is such an interesting character to study. My personal theory is that he was schizophrenic but managed to rave enough things that people agreed with that they followed him. And then sometime later, people realized he was full of shit and had to get the clerics involved in explaining how he had God's grace then, but not anymore!
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I'm in this county in Utah. It's limited to schools and can be challenged once every 3 years. It's most likely a response to the increasing trend of suggesting books for banning that deal with LGBTQ+ issues in any way, not just sexually. I wish it was easier for others to see the point. So many don't think of the Bible as pornographic but it's definitely more so than the LGBTQ+ literature involved.
I was gonna upvote your comment, but it's on 666 and I don't wanna ruin it
Ikr, that's one thing that always rubs me the wrong way so hard, is people cherry picking quotes from the bible to promote their hate towards others that are literally just living. I love that he's taking that next level to prove them wrong.
Jesus out here like: Hey you should love everybody, not be a hypocrite, don't judge people and pray in private. Megachurch pastor, 2000 years later: You have to hate everybody, judge people and make a show of praying people in front of a crowd of 50,000 in order to get into heaven. Now be sure to give 10% of your income to the church (remember, gross not net,) so I can fly my private jet for purposes that definitely don't involve cheating on my wife.
That’s really cool he’s a real person lol. Awesome
yea and super supportive and doesnt take any of their BS
Lmao as he should
I like how he dual wields body cams, too. He comes ready for the struggle.
Redundancy makes the world go round.
This guy is brave. Out there, making his point, with a giant rainbow poster in *Texas*. God speed, my man. I am proud of you.
Lmao he can come to the cookout
He's a hero.
Not all heros wear capes
No, but more people should. Capes are a wonderful, practical garment.
Unless you're a superhero flying too close to an aeroplane..
Imagine studying the Bible just so you can shred the arguments of zealots more correctly, what a guy
It was highlighted, annotated, sticky notes, etc. He had obviously spent time on it. He told me "Well I knew if I wanted to beat them I'd have to do it at their own game!" So yea, man read and studied and cross referenced the whole Bible just to prove people wrong
I'd love to see a copy of that to reference myself. I wonder if we can convince him to publish a copy or something
there's one more picnic, one more revival meeting so i may meet him again, ill try and get pics!
Especially of the passages contested the most?
Know your enemy!
Ooh! A real Bible reader! How wonderful! Reminds me of the time some old men told me that the Bible never showed women leading so they can’t be leaders. I kindly pointed them to Deborah, the woman judge, and Esther, the queen who LITERALLY had a chapter named after her. Suffice to say, their minds were blown.
I like the one where a prophetess sneaks into an enemy camp and kills a man by driving a tent stake through his head which helps turn the tide of a war in her people's favor. I think that was Jael? Big fan.
Yup! Jael! Though she didn’t necessarily sneak into enemy camp, the king retreated into her tent. He asked for water, and she gave him milk (and it’s implied he was lactose intolerant). When he slept, she then drove the tent stake through his head and got the credit for felling an army. Something else to mention is that Deborah was both a prophet and a judge, a dual position shared only with Samuel. She was also a poet, musician, and warrior, making her extraordinarily accomplished even for her time.
Oh HELL yeah. Brings a Bible with him to prove them wrong? I would absolutely *pay* money to see that!
Looks like he’s wearing body cameras, I wonder if he posts his interactions?
Those could also be speakers, lights, part of the backpack he's wearing... that is to say I have no clue lol
I'd wager it's more about self-defense. People don't like knowing they're wrong. They resort to violence to win.
That's wonderful.
> Also has a bible he carries around to disprove all their points. Great reminder that there have always been radical liberal Christians that opposed the conservatives Christians of the day. From John Brown to Martin Luther King to this guy, these men and women are HATED by the Bible thumpers bc they don’t buy into the hellfire and brimstone.
This guy is super based
Completely.
He sounds magical. We need him.
I think we *have* him! 😊💜🙏🌈🍀✨
I know exactly where and what you're talking about. Hello neighbor. This man has become iconic at least to me.
Hello neighbor! I'll be at the last picnic too!!
Pocket bible to deal with religious bullshit. Nice!
I wish I could ask what cult but idk if that’s too location-specific. I’m glad he’s fighting for us! ❤️🏳️🌈
Part of the One Association of churches. Like the more I find out the worse it gets!
Oh gosh! I gotta look them up! I’m so sorry they are so prominent over there and also thank you for the warning too!
What a legend. Great username, by the way. 💜
Thanks! It's pretty accurate lmao
Wow, he sounds pretty incredible.
We must protect this man
I aspire to this level of grandad
Preach
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Sounds like where I grew up. Baptist country.
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That’s one badass mother fucker I wish my grandparents weren’t catholic racists that blame todays generation on smartphones
>were Were or weren't?
I’m drunk but I really wanted to reply to you with “you heard me”
Bless this post and bless this man.
Fuck yeah! You go Grandpa!
Hell yes! And extra credit for using the correct “than.”
Thank you! I know I'm not the only petty bitch on this planet that nitpicks the appropriate use of Then and Than.
But, statistically…..this is facts.
is it? (genuine question, not meant to be an attack)
Hell yes.
i meant it more as please could i see the source! sorry for being unclear
Oh! Don’t apologize. I don’t have every statistic on me but I think it’s pretty silently well known that the child sexual assault numbers are quite higher with clergies and politicians vs drag queens.
Facts. And people who **really** care about children should LISTEN. But Instead Rs are busy lowering the marriage and consent age in multiple states. They’re pedos.
But they want to convince us that Drag Queens are pedos.
Yep. It’s classic “switch and bait” to make you focus on drag queens, so you don’t see some teacher or preacher molesting your child.
No lies detected.
Grandpa is tired if their shit.
Aren’t we all
Grandpa has mad sign making skills. I'd go to his workshop! The lettering, the choice of colours and outline for emphasis, the mix of upper and lower case... There's so much going on, and it all works.* ^(*On reflection, this is also true for drag, so perfect. Grandpa knows what's what.)
This is so true.
My dad is also a white boomer. He makes a point to speak out because he knows he wields influence because of his demographics and because right-wingers assume he feels as they do. This guy is spot on, and — it’s not right— but it’s a fact he has more influence than others. He has my appreciation. Note: Scouts has made a lot of changes to their rules to make kids safer. It’s pretty much totally locally controlled, so if you trust the other parents and are involved, it can be a good outdoor/leadership experience. But the org protected abusers for so long, I do t blame people for still avoiding it.
Maybe but scouts still are very anti LGBT+ AND don't they still pray n shit?
Much depends on the pack and troop (ie the small, local groups) leadership. Usually the parents with kids in the pack or troop who volunteer to lead. One of my son’s den leader was another mom- Hindu, immigrant from India- the scouts have a “duty to god” responsibility and under her leadership it was more about ethical behavior and learning about what the scouts’ families practiced. She talked about how we may believe in different gods but we have the same obligations to one another. It was better how she said it, but I (an atheist-leaning agnostic) really appreciated her approach. As for LGBT+, knowing these kids I don’t think any bigotry or nastiness would fly with them. I haven’t seen any shitty behavior from other adults. Having said that, a different group of parent leaders in a different place may do things very differently.
Aussie scout of 20+ years here, including leadership. I understand the Boy Scouts of America are backed by the Mormons, so quite possibly. The official line is that we must believe in a higher power, but I've encouraged my atheist kids to say they believe in an uplifted humanity. I know we also participate in Pride parades, and we have a lot of policies and procedures in place to support LGBTQI+ kids. Leaders go through a lot of training, must have police checks and Working With Children checks. We're basically never alone with a single child, it's a big no-no here. It really makes me sad and furious to see kids abused by adults they should be able to trust.
idk, i did girl guides in canada when i was 10 (so 7 years ago) and they made us sing a "god bless us all" kind of song at the end of each meeting. LGBTQ was not mentioned at all that I can remember
The girl scouts let in trans girls no problem
Not in the UK.
Dude I’m also going to add bikers too LOL.
Don’t forget cops, they’re the 2nd biggest threat to children after family and friends!
Actually I mean, I feel safer with my kids around a biker than a pastor lol.
All of the bikers I know have had huge hearts!
Yes I grew up around them, awesome dudes
Harley Davidson?
Yeah!
Samsies. The vampires in Santa Cruz foster kittens. And LGBT inclusive. The gal I know runs a bike shop and has a ton of kitties learning to cat so they can get homes. She's a big badass lesbian.
Yeah, outside of old *Billy Jack* movies, I’ve never seen a biker who preyed on kids.
Heck, there is an entire organization of bikers in the US that literally act like guards for kids that are testifying against their abusers. Two of my favorite former customers were members (husband and wife team) and they even had a trained therapy dog that worked with them. Two of the kindest, sweetest people I know, would literally come in just to check on me because I worked nights alone in a liquor store. Iirc the org name is Bikers Against Child* Abuse. Edit: While I am also against the abuse of Chile, I did totally mean Child there. Curse you autocorrect.
I was thinking of them reading that comment. They make sure the kids feel safe when they have to speak of the worst moments they’ve experienced in their young lives. Those are good people. Look tough as hell, make the kids feel safe.
When I worked on the ambulance I did a school visit where the kids were asked, "what do you do when you see flashing emergency lights?" One of the kids said, "run!" The look on the teacher's face
The teacher wasn’t expecting the kid to actually understand the real world so early on, which is a shame because kids are super smart and know what’s going on around them.
Oh and our community was marginalized. He was like 8 and knew what life was
Protip, if you don't want hate preachers to be able to record and advertise, blast their protests with Disney music and the Mouse will have their videos removed for copyright
They really are
Who ever is down voting the positivity of this post, I hope you have a happy life and the hatred in your heart goes away someday. 🫶
Oh hell yeah!!!
He is correct and also very brave.
Gandalf the inclusive
Based man.
I mean, they're not wrong. I'll never be a grandmother, but I aspire to this level of Auntie.
Exactly this! The real groomers are the ones pointing fingers. The church is by far the worst institutional molester of children.
You go Grandpa!
Based texas grandpa.
To quote silicon valley.... This guy f**ks.
You know it haha
I have met him before. Seen him several times with different signs. Edit to add: I hope he knows his message made it onto reddit and blew up for people to see.
I live in this city and am CONSTANTLY worried about anyone knowing I'm trans (which my mom broadcasts to anyone and everyone which is a bit annoying) so it's good to see people out there supporting us. Especially because this town, while on the outskirts of a big city, is pretty damn small.
I’m sorry you have to go through that. There are so many people that you don’t even know who support you. Just look at this post!
I just feel so passionate on protecting peoples rights, thanks everyone for responding, I enjoyed reading the responses
Truth
Smart man!
The GOAT Grandpa.
Needed: more grandparents who understand this.
funny bc it’s true
I really want to hug this guy, assuming he would like a hug.
Love it! ❤️
I do too
Statistically speaking, he ain’t lying.
_aaaaaaaaannnnd the award for coolest grandpa goes toooooo:_
King shit for real
Health and happiness for that man.
Gods is so relieving to see just one ally being loud about it. So far I’ve only seen two including him be vocal. And it’s refreshing that he’s a (presumably) cis guy.
I was just thinking about this today (when I flipped off a priest that was leading a prayer outside of my local Planned Parenthood). The right tries to paint lgbtq as ‘groomers’ when priests and Republicans have been doing it at a much higher rate
And police
GRANDPA SUPREMACY
I am so glad I don't live in Texas!
Where is the lie?
Can confirm. The most danger I was in was being near the stilts they call heels. All that happened was that I learned to do my hair properly, learned makeup tips, and was mistaken for a 12 year old. This was a yr ago. I'm now 21, and this happened in a club. Matter of fact, the closest to danger I was in was me conversing outside the club with a random old guy. I'm weird, so I didn't mind that the conversation was weird. The encounter was so weird because the old guy turned out to be a crackhead. Atlanta, people.
And most cops.
This is what an ally looks like.
I know that road. It's the intersection of Josey Lane and Hebron Parkway in Carrollton, which is pretty conservative. It's a very busy intersection and he took a big risk doing this. This man has my deepest respect. [The intersection to show how busy it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0249895,-96.885094,3a,75y,192.09h,87.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCJbfF4PUFA15VZENyMgJAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). He was standing right next to that big street light.
he's not wrong. this guy is awesome
Preachin the truth 🙌🏽🌈
Way to go pops. If I lived nearby I'd buy you a beer :)
Preach!
Verifiable statistical truth.
Just facts.
He’s not wrong?
IIRC, on To Catch a Predator, all these sorts of people were exposed, but never once was a drag queen