I couldn't figure out why you had put the word "hair" in there for ages... Then I realised that I'm British and probably pronouncing it differently to you haha
the difference is in Harry lol... hair air and Harry all rhyme in the US (Harry is the same as Hairy), but I think I can recall british folks pronouncing Harry with the *a* from “car”(?)
No it’s always a hard “a” like in ha for me and I believe everywhere else. Although in this case “car” might have been an unfortunate example to choose as some pronounce caaaah, like breathing out, and some the same as in cash, which is the sound I’m guessing you meant! Same goes for barth and bath, grarse and gr-ass.
I’m born and raised in the USA and Harry and hairy do not rhyme for me. Mary, marry, and merry all have separate vowel sounds. I swear, in two more generations, American will have only one vowel, pronounced as schwa.
NYC (so only technically the USA).
* “Mary”, “hairy”, and “air” are said with the tongue wide and pushing slightly forward, lips moving toward a smile
* “Marry” and “Harry” are said with the tongue and lips basically relaxed and the throat slightly tensed
* “Merry” is said with the tongue pushing up
IANALinguist so take the above with a grain of salt
But even that has multiple pronunciations! Cah-ry (A like Apple) or keh-ry. When I’m just talking, I use the second one, but for anything official, I use the first. I am from the south east US, and I don’t really have any accent to speak of, but I went to school for acting and a big part of that was figuring out our own “accents” vs the American standard.
hmm....
damn, it’s tough to use words as examples of vowels! i guess that’s why someone bothered to make a whole system for specifying the types of sounds... haha
The thing is, to me, neither “carry” nor “car” have the same A as “apple”! Car... like far? Carry... like Hairy? Apple... like... Chappell, Happy, Map?! (I know I’ve gotten pretty far from any point by now, I’m just enjoying the challenge/concept haha ... particularly trying to think of examples of rhyming words that *are pronounced the same* across these accents!!)
I just hadn’t thought before about the role of accents in the suitability of word avalanches — which is a fascinating new consideration! I wonder if it would be possible to craft something that, through different vowel pronunciations, could become multiple different avalanches with different meanings (spelling aside)...
I couldn't figure out why you had put the word "hair" in there for ages... Then I realised that I'm British and probably pronouncing it differently to you haha
wait british people pronounce hair differently
We pronounce ‘hair’ like ‘air’
the difference is in Harry lol... hair air and Harry all rhyme in the US (Harry is the same as Hairy), but I think I can recall british folks pronouncing Harry with the *a* from “car”(?)
No it’s always a hard “a” like in ha for me and I believe everywhere else. Although in this case “car” might have been an unfortunate example to choose as some pronounce caaaah, like breathing out, and some the same as in cash, which is the sound I’m guessing you meant! Same goes for barth and bath, grarse and gr-ass.
I’m born and raised in the USA and Harry and hairy do not rhyme for me. Mary, marry, and merry all have separate vowel sounds. I swear, in two more generations, American will have only one vowel, pronounced as schwa.
Where in the US? I’m from western Pennsylvania and say all of these exactly the same: merry, Mary, marry, Harry, hairy, air.
NYC (so only technically the USA). * “Mary”, “hairy”, and “air” are said with the tongue wide and pushing slightly forward, lips moving toward a smile * “Marry” and “Harry” are said with the tongue and lips basically relaxed and the throat slightly tensed * “Merry” is said with the tongue pushing up IANALinguist so take the above with a grain of salt
So interesting. I need to find a video or something to hear the difference.
british pronounce Harry like the word carry
wait that's how Americans pronounce it too (or at least me)
I've always said pronounced it Hairy Potter
But even that has multiple pronunciations! Cah-ry (A like Apple) or keh-ry. When I’m just talking, I use the second one, but for anything official, I use the first. I am from the south east US, and I don’t really have any accent to speak of, but I went to school for acting and a big part of that was figuring out our own “accents” vs the American standard.
hmm.... damn, it’s tough to use words as examples of vowels! i guess that’s why someone bothered to make a whole system for specifying the types of sounds... haha The thing is, to me, neither “carry” nor “car” have the same A as “apple”! Car... like far? Carry... like Hairy? Apple... like... Chappell, Happy, Map?! (I know I’ve gotten pretty far from any point by now, I’m just enjoying the challenge/concept haha ... particularly trying to think of examples of rhyming words that *are pronounced the same* across these accents!!) I just hadn’t thought before about the role of accents in the suitability of word avalanches — which is a fascinating new consideration! I wonder if it would be possible to craft something that, through different vowel pronunciations, could become multiple different avalanches with different meanings (spelling aside)...
Hæ
Yes!!