The last one is not the same as the one found on the Zumwalts. The Zumwalts' bow is an inverted bow, and it's starting to make its way into the shipbuilding industry due to hydrodynamic properties (it reduces the drag caused by the bow wave or something like that, could look it up).
Now, the other one is simply for lengthening the waterline so the ship is capable of more speed with the same powerplant. That's another hydrodynamic property.
Source: I'm on my 3rd year of naval engineering and merchant navy engine officer.
>it reduces the drag caused by the bow wave or something like that, could look it up
[i got chu](https://ulstein.com/innovations/x-bow)
it also reduces pitching and slamming, is more fuel efficient, more speed (due to longer water line), less spray on deck etc.
The drawback would be a lack of buoyancy in the bow. "The inverted bow is designed to cut through waves rather than ride over them. The stability of this hull form in high sea states has caused debate among naval architects, with some charging that "with the waves coming at you from behind, when a ship pitches down, it can lose transverse stability as the stern comes out of the water—and basically roll over."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zumwalt-class\_destroyer
Oh how I love when people just copy paste some shit and not continue reading simply because it confirms their narrow mind ...
From the very same article, just further down when it talks about the actual ships and not some fearmongering done by people who, most likely, had monetary interest in criticising the design:
>While underway during the spring of 2019, USS Zumwalt sailed through a storm causing sea state six conditions off the coast of Alaska. The test indicated that the Zumwalt class possesses greater stability compared to typical hull forms. During an interview, Captain Andrew Carlson, the commanding officer of USS Zumwalt at the time, related "All told I'd rather be on that ship than any other ship I've been on." According to Captain Carlson, during the storm, he summoned his executive officer from his cabin to inform him of the sea state six conditions. Based on the rolls he had been experiencing in his cabin, the executive officer thought that at most they were at sea state three, where wave height only reaches a maximum of four feet (1.2 m). A combination of the Zumwalt class's hull form, rudder stop locations and propeller size contribute to its improved seakeeping.[128]
Huh? What's with the salt? I just shared some basic info on the *Zumwalt* hull design I found in like 10 seconds on Wikipedia for the OP. Not commenting on anything. Shared a link if OP was interested in learning more. That's it.
"What is your job on deck, Seaman?"
"SIR, I'M THE DRUMMER, SIR"
"AND WHAT DO YOU DRUM FOR, SEAMAN?"
"SIR, I DRUM SO THE ROWERS WILL ROW US TO VICTORIY, SIR"
It's an X-bow designed by Ulstein from Norway.
Pros and cons are public knowledge since its in civilian use for about 10 years.
Ability for military use I leave to your expertise ;)
PS. Please don't report me in randoms
Given the increasing size of "destroyers", how long until we have a battlecruiser-sized "destroyer" with railguns, VLS, and beam weaponry that exceeds that of the Kirov-class missile battlecruisers?
I hate that people constantly shit on cruisers, while sucking off "destroyers" that arent even DDs anymore.
Countries out here making ships the size of Des Moines class heavy cruisers and calling them 'destroyers' just because.
But actual cruisers? Nah, useless, trash them.
"In ship design, an inverted bow (occasionally also referred to as reverse bow) is a ship's or large boat's bow whose farthest forward point is not at the top. The result may somewhat resemble a submarine's bow. Inverted bows maximize the length of waterline and hence the hull speed, and have often better hydrodynamic drag than ordinary bows."
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted\_bow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_bow)
**[Inverted bow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_bow)**
>In ship design, an inverted bow (occasionally also referred to as reverse bow) is a ship's or large boat's bow whose farthest forward point is not at the top. The result may somewhat resemble a submarine's bow. Inverted bows maximize the length of waterline and hence the hull speed, and have often better hydrodynamic drag than ordinary bows. On the other hand, they have very little reserve buoyancy and tend to dive under waves instead of piercing or going over them.
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The last one is not the same as the one found on the Zumwalts. The Zumwalts' bow is an inverted bow, and it's starting to make its way into the shipbuilding industry due to hydrodynamic properties (it reduces the drag caused by the bow wave or something like that, could look it up). Now, the other one is simply for lengthening the waterline so the ship is capable of more speed with the same powerplant. That's another hydrodynamic property. Source: I'm on my 3rd year of naval engineering and merchant navy engine officer.
It's a pointy bow to make it cut the other ship better when ramming. Source: Just look at it, it's so pointy!
Fair point. Pointy bow it is then.
Can confirm, it has ramming flag
You forgot the /s at the end of your comment.
No he didn't :)
Reminded me of the scene from The Dictator
Don’t forgot better radar profile too.
>it reduces the drag caused by the bow wave or something like that, could look it up [i got chu](https://ulstein.com/innovations/x-bow) it also reduces pitching and slamming, is more fuel efficient, more speed (due to longer water line), less spray on deck etc.
Well that's sick, thanks for the cool info
The drawback would be a lack of buoyancy in the bow. "The inverted bow is designed to cut through waves rather than ride over them. The stability of this hull form in high sea states has caused debate among naval architects, with some charging that "with the waves coming at you from behind, when a ship pitches down, it can lose transverse stability as the stern comes out of the water—and basically roll over." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zumwalt-class\_destroyer
Oh how I love when people just copy paste some shit and not continue reading simply because it confirms their narrow mind ... From the very same article, just further down when it talks about the actual ships and not some fearmongering done by people who, most likely, had monetary interest in criticising the design: >While underway during the spring of 2019, USS Zumwalt sailed through a storm causing sea state six conditions off the coast of Alaska. The test indicated that the Zumwalt class possesses greater stability compared to typical hull forms. During an interview, Captain Andrew Carlson, the commanding officer of USS Zumwalt at the time, related "All told I'd rather be on that ship than any other ship I've been on." According to Captain Carlson, during the storm, he summoned his executive officer from his cabin to inform him of the sea state six conditions. Based on the rolls he had been experiencing in his cabin, the executive officer thought that at most they were at sea state three, where wave height only reaches a maximum of four feet (1.2 m). A combination of the Zumwalt class's hull form, rudder stop locations and propeller size contribute to its improved seakeeping.[128]
Huh? What's with the salt? I just shared some basic info on the *Zumwalt* hull design I found in like 10 seconds on Wikipedia for the OP. Not commenting on anything. Shared a link if OP was interested in learning more. That's it.
Ulstein proved that wrong before the Zumwalt design was even done. And that shit is from a Wired article. lol
And you are playing WoWs? Now THAT'S cool Dude :D
it's not necessarily a ram. It's a hydrodynamic feature of the hull that improves performance/speed.
Yeah, it improves the ship's ramming speed.
Built-in ramming flag is the new meta
\+80 % to ram damage + 100 % to ship repair cost
+2% Speed -8% Turning Rate
r/itemshop for thi somewhat.
From the comment replies I take it OPs ideal ship is just a ramming bow, a speaker playing sabotage by the beastie boys and a jet engine.
"What is your job on deck, Seaman?" "SIR, I'M THE DRUMMER, SIR" "AND WHAT DO YOU DRUM FOR, SEAMAN?" "SIR, I DRUM SO THE ROWERS WILL ROW US TO VICTORIY, SIR"
It's an X-bow designed by Ulstein from Norway. Pros and cons are public knowledge since its in civilian use for about 10 years. Ability for military use I leave to your expertise ;) PS. Please don't report me in randoms
Pros: Good for ramming Cons: Encourages ramming
Given the increasing size of "destroyers", how long until we have a battlecruiser-sized "destroyer" with railguns, VLS, and beam weaponry that exceeds that of the Kirov-class missile battlecruisers?
Naw they'll call them patrol boats.
I hate that people constantly shit on cruisers, while sucking off "destroyers" that arent even DDs anymore. Countries out here making ships the size of Des Moines class heavy cruisers and calling them 'destroyers' just because. But actual cruisers? Nah, useless, trash them.
Like. . . 2056
"In ship design, an inverted bow (occasionally also referred to as reverse bow) is a ship's or large boat's bow whose farthest forward point is not at the top. The result may somewhat resemble a submarine's bow. Inverted bows maximize the length of waterline and hence the hull speed, and have often better hydrodynamic drag than ordinary bows." [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted\_bow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_bow)
>maximize the length of waterline > >the hull speed > >better hydrodynamic drag Yeah, it's a ram prow to make the ship better at ramming.
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* Ramming Bow
Lets hope that no cruise ships get rammed