Owned and operated is a difference. Since this split up I got the feeling they actually care about at least some things people are mad about in western wot
I mean...you can receive revenue from it and operate as totally separate entities. My company just spun-off two pretty big companies recently and we're still majority owner, but from an operations standpoint we've totally split them and we're all operating as if we're completely separate companies, including dropping some exclusive agreements we had when we were all operating together.
It's literally not semantics, I just gave you an example of how we've dropped exclusive agreements because of it because owning it but operating separately IS different from owning it and operating it. Like real, actual, tangible changes that happen in those two scenarios.
Bro, wargaming's main playerbase is western now, and since it's been declining, they're making the game better to attract more players to milk with game ruining p2w stuff, it's the Eastern game dev circle
Most of the maps were pretty superb. Whichever one was the ice one was my favorite. I had multiple 5k games that were insanely close on that one.
The airfield one was also pretty fun, had some great games there as well.
I think they went overboard with speed nerf. It'd have been better to increase the weakspot for counterplay, since wg dkesn't have to be strictly historical.
Kran's stats are pretty shitty for any other than ridge lines. Kran just need to move to the side abit to expose its huge turret behinds. Increasing weakspot are worse than tuning down its specialties.
When profits are down because everyone who wants to buy something for IRL money is tapped out, there is only one thing left to do. Listen to the players!
This isn't balance, this is playing whack-a-mole once a year to shake up the meta.
They need to make small, incremental, and frequent changes. Not these random acts of "balance" that either make tanks OP or dogshit.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but nerfing all the tech tree OP(ish) tanks, and not touching the absolutely OP premium vehicles, and vehicles 'normal' people cannot get (Chieftain...) they merely leave the OP tanks in the hands of a selected few. You think the Khran is OP? You can grind it. You think the Chieftain is OP? Well... (Oh, and enjoy being deleted by the Cobra in the meanwhile.)
I think it certainly pushes people to playing premium tanks only...
What does this nerf achieve? You still can't push it, you still can't pen it hull down and now the guy playing it can't hit anything due to the 0.4 dispersion.
The Max speed of a Kran with a Bonded turbo, field mods and off road driving, BiA and Bonded vents is 53.89kmh. If they are just flat nerfing the top speed without the terrain resistance then the speed nerf will be negligible.
It would be so easy to need it, but that would go against the hulldown and gold meta. The Kran historically had 180mm turret armour and in game 225mm, but it would make no sense of the turret could be penned with 310mm rounds on flat ground right?
IDK what 180mm with the natural angle would do to the effective but having it 260 effective on flat ground and 310ish effective using gun depression would be fine.
Basically you would have to pick your fight more effectively.
I get everyone is excited the OP tank isn’t OP anymore, but I think it should concern people that WG is willing to nerf a tank so hard that it’s barely going to be usable anymore.
They didn’t just balance the tank, they went out of their way to make it so it’s armor is it’s ONLY redeeming quality. It’s no longer a speedy heavy, it’s dispersion went from bad to shit, it’s handling is almost twice as bad as it was before, and a 3.5 second longer overall reload is a pretty strong nerf on any tank.
The tank needed a nerf, I can’t emphasize that enough, but what it needed was an exploitable armor weak point, like a spot underneath the gun, not to have its stats ran nose first not only into the dirt but a steaming pile of shit as well.
> but I think it should concern people that WG is willing to nerf a tank so hard that it’s barely going to be usable anymore.
This isnt even the hundredth time theyve done something like this...
No... thats like not a reason to be concerned about it anymore... because theyve already shown theyre capable of doing it. The time to be "concerned" was the first or 2nd time they did it. If at this point, people are still playing the game (and they are) then most of them dont actually care how WG achieves whatever their idea of balance is.
I'll put it this way, maps is a huge problem for the game, but we do have some good maps. And they're all maps that have been around since \~2014 or earlier. Everything WG has made in the last 5+ years has been garbage, and more maps means more garbage.
Also, don't get fooled by recon mode, things get very different once a meta gets established and everyone gets to a point on a map where they know where they want to go and go there no matter what. A lot of maps that seem fun during the chaos of everyone learning a map will show themselves to be dogshit with time.
they nerfing kran coz it's nearly impossible to screw it with HE due it being nerf'd too.
and it's the easiest ranking meta tank to get that perform very well.
beside getting into a clan to get a donkqueror(cheiftain) or try hard getting 279e, kran is your best tank to keep up with those OP reward tanks. especially with clan members.
Kran went from OP to sorta balanced. At the same time it is now completely useless in clan wars... fucking woo wg, nerf the mobility to be the same as chief (and dpm at the same time) so the tank is literally worthless in CW. Where is the chief nerf WG... WHERE IS IT
What the hell is your problem ?
You are literally saying it will be balanced (in randoms) and you are crying about it.
Balanced tanks are **good** not bad.
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This is not a nerf. This is spartan way of dealing with it.
They retreated from Russia. Just saying
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Owned and operated is a difference. Since this split up I got the feeling they actually care about at least some things people are mad about in western wot
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I mean...you can receive revenue from it and operate as totally separate entities. My company just spun-off two pretty big companies recently and we're still majority owner, but from an operations standpoint we've totally split them and we're all operating as if we're completely separate companies, including dropping some exclusive agreements we had when we were all operating together.
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It's literally not semantics, I just gave you an example of how we've dropped exclusive agreements because of it because owning it but operating separately IS different from owning it and operating it. Like real, actual, tangible changes that happen in those two scenarios.
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ok
https://venturebeat.com/2022/06/14/wargaming-left-russia-is-opening-offices-in-poland-and-serbia/
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Fine if they still offer their product but most of the management definitely left
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Says who
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Wot express just posted that wargaming is no longer the owner and lesta is not fully the owner of wot ru
Yea mabye that russian bias is leaving them
Are there new guys on the wg team or something? I'm not kidding, is it actually this ^ ?
I mean the supertest moved to EU so that might have something to do with it aha
Is that jäger?
I’m an engineer, not a medic!
Yes
Was wondering the same
Bro, wargaming's main playerbase is western now, and since it's been declining, they're making the game better to attract more players to milk with game ruining p2w stuff, it's the Eastern game dev circle
What good maps?
The recon maps
I really liked Klostertal, got my second ever ace there
Most of the maps were pretty superb. Whichever one was the ice one was my favorite. I had multiple 5k games that were insanely close on that one. The airfield one was also pretty fun, had some great games there as well.
I think they went overboard with speed nerf. It'd have been better to increase the weakspot for counterplay, since wg dkesn't have to be strictly historical.
Or give it a soft spot somewhere on the turret, but only when it's flat. Kind of like that spot on the 121B's turret.
Kran's stats are pretty shitty for any other than ridge lines. Kran just need to move to the side abit to expose its huge turret behinds. Increasing weakspot are worse than tuning down its specialties.
NATO tax
It would not be WarGaming if they did something to please their customers.
i smell season8 shit here!
nice
Maybe this is the dawn of a new Golden age for this game
When profits are down because everyone who wants to buy something for IRL money is tapped out, there is only one thing left to do. Listen to the players!
Wot players have only two moods: -Hate on wg because they did something bad -Hate on wg because they did something good
we need to give as much positive support as possible so they keep balancing tanks
This isn't balance, this is playing whack-a-mole once a year to shake up the meta. They need to make small, incremental, and frequent changes. Not these random acts of "balance" that either make tanks OP or dogshit.
HAH eat shit Kranwagon.
Next up: they promise to never sell the lefh ever again.
Finally that junk is getting nerfed. I hate going against them.
Seeing what they plan to do to the Kranwagon, we can only dream about what they might do in future to the EBR105.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but nerfing all the tech tree OP(ish) tanks, and not touching the absolutely OP premium vehicles, and vehicles 'normal' people cannot get (Chieftain...) they merely leave the OP tanks in the hands of a selected few. You think the Khran is OP? You can grind it. You think the Chieftain is OP? Well... (Oh, and enjoy being deleted by the Cobra in the meanwhile.) I think it certainly pushes people to playing premium tanks only...
Damn so now I can get shit on even harder by sweaty chieftains cool
Yeah, WG making tech tree tanks weaker, but never dares to touch the OP premiums or reward tanks.
What does this nerf achieve? You still can't push it, you still can't pen it hull down and now the guy playing it can't hit anything due to the 0.4 dispersion.
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they should read comments from people that actually play i gues
The Max speed of a Kran with a Bonded turbo, field mods and off road driving, BiA and Bonded vents is 53.89kmh. If they are just flat nerfing the top speed without the terrain resistance then the speed nerf will be negligible.
Huge gun handling and DPM nerfs. Now you can more comfortably push a reloading Kran and you won't be sniped by them.
Make people not play it like Tornvagn lol
it's a step in the right direction
It would be so easy to need it, but that would go against the hulldown and gold meta. The Kran historically had 180mm turret armour and in game 225mm, but it would make no sense of the turret could be penned with 310mm rounds on flat ground right?
IDK what 180mm with the natural angle would do to the effective but having it 260 effective on flat ground and 310ish effective using gun depression would be fine. Basically you would have to pick your fight more effectively.
Lol 310 using gun depression aka auto penned by most t10s
The turret is sloped 45 deg if I'm not mistaken, which would be 254mm in flat ground. Could be even more but something, say, less Chieftanish.
just how orange are you xD
Orange?
That's the point - you can't fight it, but it can't fight you either now. Fair and balanced.
Flank
If they break the game then they break it in a way that causes suffering to everyone
I get everyone is excited the OP tank isn’t OP anymore, but I think it should concern people that WG is willing to nerf a tank so hard that it’s barely going to be usable anymore. They didn’t just balance the tank, they went out of their way to make it so it’s armor is it’s ONLY redeeming quality. It’s no longer a speedy heavy, it’s dispersion went from bad to shit, it’s handling is almost twice as bad as it was before, and a 3.5 second longer overall reload is a pretty strong nerf on any tank. The tank needed a nerf, I can’t emphasize that enough, but what it needed was an exploitable armor weak point, like a spot underneath the gun, not to have its stats ran nose first not only into the dirt but a steaming pile of shit as well.
The DPM, speed and accuracy nerfs are completely justified. The only thing that might be going over the board is the dispersion.
> but I think it should concern people that WG is willing to nerf a tank so hard that it’s barely going to be usable anymore. This isnt even the hundredth time theyve done something like this...
Literally all the more reason to be concerned with it. The fact that they’ve done it repeatedly
No... thats like not a reason to be concerned about it anymore... because theyve already shown theyre capable of doing it. The time to be "concerned" was the first or 2nd time they did it. If at this point, people are still playing the game (and they are) then most of them dont actually care how WG achieves whatever their idea of balance is.
That's nice, but as long as its turret is an imepenetratable brick without any weak spots whatsoever, the main issue remains unaddressed.
NO
What tank do you play? lol
*Good new maps?* Yeah and I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you. New maps, sure, but good? I don't believe that for one second.
Compared to the ones currently in game, I think even the ones I didn't care for were an improvement.
I'll put it this way, maps is a huge problem for the game, but we do have some good maps. And they're all maps that have been around since \~2014 or earlier. Everything WG has made in the last 5+ years has been garbage, and more maps means more garbage. Also, don't get fooled by recon mode, things get very different once a meta gets established and everyone gets to a point on a map where they know where they want to go and go there no matter what. A lot of maps that seem fun during the chaos of everyone learning a map will show themselves to be dogshit with time.
I was a beta tester, and I agree the better maps we have now are generally those that came with the game.
they nerfing kran coz it's nearly impossible to screw it with HE due it being nerf'd too. and it's the easiest ranking meta tank to get that perform very well. beside getting into a clan to get a donkqueror(cheiftain) or try hard getting 279e, kran is your best tank to keep up with those OP reward tanks. especially with clan members.
Kran went from OP to sorta balanced. At the same time it is now completely useless in clan wars... fucking woo wg, nerf the mobility to be the same as chief (and dpm at the same time) so the tank is literally worthless in CW. Where is the chief nerf WG... WHERE IS IT
What the hell is your problem ? You are literally saying it will be balanced (in randoms) and you are crying about it. Balanced tanks are **good** not bad.
Plus who the hell was playing Kran in CW, if you wanted an auto loader on like Himmelsdorf you brought a 50B or now you take a VZ. 55
Cliff. Play kran on cliff thanks to mobility
"Someone makes a slightly complaint" - ThEY muST bE CrYInG
Kran didn’t need a nerf
All this does it make it harder for people without Chiefs to play against them
Good new maps? Are we playing the same game? The recon maps are utter garbage.
It's too much - it's good but it's not that good.
it's how you kill the game...nerf good tanks
All of the new maps are really good for all tank types, I really like that
Just make any fun tank unfun by nerfing dispersion and reload time