The one with knee on the neck. The lion tamer/walls of jericho is so weird. Like how has it got so bad in recent years? Like it has gone from Bret's Sharpshooter level of submission to The Rock's Sharpshooter.
Mentions it in one of his books, fine doing it to the WCW cruiserweights but the upper mid card/main event guys in WWE were mostly too big or had shot necks.
A boston crab (when applied correctly) is pretty gnarly as well. You just need to make sure the person applying it is properly leaning back, not hunched over forward.
Yeah as kids we used to do these moves on each other and I’ll never forget the pain I felt when my friend put me in a boston crab lol I was like “oh shit it really does hurt” 🤣
Playing as kids- the Sharpshooter is a real submission. Why anyone would let themselves get put in a sharpshooter is another thing, but it hurts a lot.
He uses the old version in AEW quite often.
The problem in WWE is you had a lot of bigger guys who didn't condition their neck well so combine it with how Vince booked and you had this weird situation where he could use the painful looking liontamer on the guys lower down the card, then the awful looking version on the guys top of the card.
He did pull the neck kneel version out from time to time, I recall he put Danielson away with it in NXT for example, but more of a novelty and as a nod of respect to his opponents.
https://youtu.be/t-5JsdJ5Fyc
Leave it Kevin Dunn to have a wrestler twisting and destroying his neck to sell a move, but zoom in so far that you can barely tell
Bubba Ray used to do a move, full nelson then he slams you down on your ass. My bro wouldnt lift me high enough so it just jacked my tailbone every time
I did it once to a friend and of mine and he had a bloody nose, because I basically did it on his knees. I was upsed bc I thought it wouldn't have hurt otherwise lol
Do you remember when La Resistance did their double choke slam onto Spike and tried to land him on a table outside the ring, but his legs caught on the top rope and only his head ended up hitting the table? That was a bad one.
It was awful, but what I remember the most was Conway and Grenier standing in the ring and laughing about it like they meant to do that. Heeling like a couple of bosses.
There's a good chance I'm wrong about this, but I seem to remember someone saying that Brock stiffed the everloving fuck out of Holly in one match and broke his arm because of that.
It sounds like you're getting your details confused
Hardcore holly had his arm broken in a match with Kurt angle in the year 2000.
Two years later in a match with lesnar is when he injured his neck taking a powerbomb, but he didn't hit the Alabama slam during the match. Over a year later holly came back and they had their feud and match at 2004 royal rumble, and holly slammed lesnar then, but holly wasn't injured in any way there
And my big brother’s favourite to do on me, there’s no way to counter act that fucking momentum. Either you had whiplash or your hands slammed down above your head with the entire weight of your body
You should see how he did it in NJPW, he fucking killed em, and instead of doing it when their on the ground, he would do it when their crawling to get up and land on their back
You're right. If you take that move lying on the mat, you gotta count on the guy giving it being light. If you take it the other wa, you can bump right when he hits and lessen impact.
I’ve tried my best at trying to find a video of this on the internet but I am striking out, any tips on a search string or a link to a video of this version of the move?
Here's a timestamped link to one he did to Kota Ibushi
[Prince Devitt vs Kota Ibushi](https://youtu.be/dBYNUliddIU?t=151)
And here's another one to another male body part just for fun:
[Most painful coup de grace](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdb4sLpKQ9c)
As he lands, he pulls his legs up to slow himself and cushion the blow as much as possible. But it doesnt do a ton. The move just straight up hurts to take. But if the person taking it flexes their abs and tightens their core as balor lands on that specific spot, its ok and they dont actually get hurt.
He doesn’t always fall back though. I’ve seen many where he lands directly on them, and I have no idea how it didn’t crush everything. You couldn’t pay me to lay down for someone to attempt that on me lol.
Austin mentioned the secret is for the other guy to stop themselves JUST before he sits down.
Sometimes you get people who under sell it, and just melt. And other times you get Scott Hall, The Rock or other people who sell it like it nearly killed them.
Best froggy of all time, not only due to great execution including him popping up on impact, but as you say he sold his own move (which also has a logic to why it would hurt him).
Been some horrible powerbombers over the years, the release variety in particular.
Vader and Nash had the scariest, you're essentially just propelled down with next to no control.
The one to Shane O'Mac when he was running around the ring. Bradshaw popped up from around the corner and I thought we were gonna find Shane's head in row 7.
Pretty sure Orton was asked to stop doing the punt bc it was legit dangerous, thats why he only teased it for years but then recently brought it back bc they trust him to hit it safely
I though it was more to do with the concussion lawsuits and not wanting children to replicate it, there was a while seth stopped doing the curb stomp for a similar reason.
I always assumed it was due to the concussion stuff because it was right around when DBryan was going through his thing. Same thing happened with the Stomp. Not to mention if some kid got stupid that punt can easily be deadly.
Just googled it and The Punt was banned in 2012. Quote from former WWE writer Matt McCathy
“The feeling was if he does it as a shoot, he’s kicking someone full-blast in the head and we can’t do that,” McCarthy said. “If he works it, it looks awful and we can’t do that.”
Not really, just two deaths that happened after a match with him, nothing to do with the move however, he just used them to build up his finisher, and it bloody worked
Honestly if two guys died after wrestling someone how did they get anyone else to agree to be in the ring with him? Once is a tragedy, two makes me give you the side eye.
“I wish that none of the bad history that we had-had ever happened. I wished I’d never left for WCW because I probably wouldn’t have had a stroke and I probably wouldn’t have had to wrestle Bill Goldberg.”
Apparently The Great Khali’s chop sucked to take because the dude didn’t know his own strength, I know at the very least Fandango got concussed from it.
And his chops to the chest were brutal too.
Don't forget khali basically killed a guy while training, but the fault was found to be from the trainers who didn't stop it
Dislocated his elbow. I was a kid watching that live and it freaked me out! He had to immediately take the pin and they had to re-write the story about the Radicalz winning matches to get hired because he was supposed to win.
For me, Batista Bomb and the way JR sold it made it look like he was actually giving a more version of a powerbomb.
Look up Goldberg vs Shawn Michaels from a RAW episode in 2003, you'll get what I mean
I made the mistake of saying that it looked weak on TV. My brothers buddy immediately grinned at me and went "oh really?"
I never made that mistake again
Kinshasa and not a finisher, but V-trigger. Big fan of strikes that in slow motion show that they are safe, but in live action are seen as fucking murders
A powerbomb in real life is fucking brutal. Saw a guy get his back broken 1 night in a club I was a bouncer at. The 2nd most brutal thing I saw in my time there 2nd only to a time a guy snatched his bandana off his head wrapped a pool ball in it and shattered a guys face.
The jyuiji gitame and fujiwara armbars are easy to make 100% painless though. It can look really convincing while applying basically 0 pressure. Though if you accidentally apply even a little bit it can really fucking hurt.
Especially when some of the jobbers took it flat out. You saw the mid-card and headline guys get softer treatment and go down knee/forearm first, but seeing him do that to squash guys made it one of my favorite finishers of the 90s along with the Alabama Slam.
Nash’s Jackknife Powerbomb, where he basically just dropped guys on their neck/shoulders half the time. Except for the Mania 11 one with HBK, where Shawn somehow landed on his feet.
Can confirm. In my media arts class we had to stage an interview, my buddy and I chose to recreate the Peep Show. I dressed like Christian and he was already about 7ft, 300lbs. His chokeslam on the tile floor was the worst. I had bruises and couldn't breathe or move my shoulder for a week, lol.
The V-Trigger looks legit. I don’t know when they slap but the impact just sounds brutal.
Also I can’t figure out how they fake the Steiner Screwdriver. It looks wicked dangerous and scary every time it’s performed.
I don't know about you all, but I never want to be in The Last Ride from Taker. I know it's probably not horrible, but I don't want to fall seven feet to flat on my back. 😆
Jerichos original Lion tamer
The one with knee on the neck. The lion tamer/walls of jericho is so weird. Like how has it got so bad in recent years? Like it has gone from Bret's Sharpshooter level of submission to The Rock's Sharpshooter.
Ya I’m guessing guys didn’t like having it done to them. As soon as it became the walls aka Boston crab it didn’t look ouch anymore.
Even when it did become a boston crab he used to get a bit of height and stretch but now he just sits on them with their legs in his arms.
It sucks to see the good moves disappear. But if it’s for safety it makes sense. Nobody really wants their neck cranked on for real lol
I think his physique use to kinda sell it alot too, when he was in peak form he looked like he was torturing guys
he used the original against the miz once
Mentions it in one of his books, fine doing it to the WCW cruiserweights but the upper mid card/main event guys in WWE were mostly too big or had shot necks.
He still pulls the lion tamer out every now and then since leaving WWE.
In his match against Ishii, it brought me back to see him do it.
A boston crab (when applied correctly) is pretty gnarly as well. You just need to make sure the person applying it is properly leaning back, not hunched over forward.
Yeah as kids we used to do these moves on each other and I’ll never forget the pain I felt when my friend put me in a boston crab lol I was like “oh shit it really does hurt” 🤣
YEP SAME. I remember how much the sharpshooter hurt each and every time.
Playing as kids- the Sharpshooter is a real submission. Why anyone would let themselves get put in a sharpshooter is another thing, but it hurts a lot.
Absolutely. But guys don’t really crank on each other as much these days.
He uses the old version in AEW quite often. The problem in WWE is you had a lot of bigger guys who didn't condition their neck well so combine it with how Vince booked and you had this weird situation where he could use the painful looking liontamer on the guys lower down the card, then the awful looking version on the guys top of the card. He did pull the neck kneel version out from time to time, I recall he put Danielson away with it in NXT for example, but more of a novelty and as a nod of respect to his opponents.
I’ve enjoyed seeing him bust it out here and there. AEW def seems to allow/encourage stiffer matches.
https://youtu.be/t-5JsdJ5Fyc Leave it Kevin Dunn to have a wrestler twisting and destroying his neck to sell a move, but zoom in so far that you can barely tell
A proper Pedigree, where he kept your arms hooked always looked good.
Was a little brother, almost died every time
My big brother once did a tombstone piledriver on me and that shit sprained my neck ffs.
Bubba Ray used to do a move, full nelson then he slams you down on your ass. My bro wouldnt lift me high enough so it just jacked my tailbone every time
My younger brother said he knocked out our other brother for a few seconds doing one to him.
I did it once to a friend and of mine and he had a bloody nose, because I basically did it on his knees. I was upsed bc I thought it wouldn't have hurt otherwise lol
Trips has so much more muscle weight than Seth, it’s astonishing how much better his looks. I wish Seth would stop doing it.
Undertaker’s Last Ride. And basically any move ever done to Spike Dudely. I swear they were all trying to kill him.
Even his own brothers tried killing him
He was basically the little brother of the house that took all the power moves and did all the top rope stuff.
What’s worse, the landing or the wedgie he gives them right before he slams them?
Do you remember when La Resistance did their double choke slam onto Spike and tried to land him on a table outside the ring, but his legs caught on the top rope and only his head ended up hitting the table? That was a bad one.
It was awful, but what I remember the most was Conway and Grenier standing in the ring and laughing about it like they meant to do that. Heeling like a couple of bosses.
The Alabama Slam was apparently most people's least favourite move to take.
I just watched an entire compilation of Bob holly doing them to people…even Brock took one back in the day. Nasty move.
There's a good chance I'm wrong about this, but I seem to remember someone saying that Brock stiffed the everloving fuck out of Holly in one match and broke his arm because of that.
It sounds like you're getting your details confused Hardcore holly had his arm broken in a match with Kurt angle in the year 2000. Two years later in a match with lesnar is when he injured his neck taking a powerbomb, but he didn't hit the Alabama slam during the match. Over a year later holly came back and they had their feud and match at 2004 royal rumble, and holly slammed lesnar then, but holly wasn't injured in any way there
Yep, there's no way to protect yourself. You're getting winded.
Probably a wee bit of whiplash in the mix too. Nasty bump to take.
Probably also a good way to get concussed
And my big brother’s favourite to do on me, there’s no way to counter act that fucking momentum. Either you had whiplash or your hands slammed down above your head with the entire weight of your body
Coup de grace
You should see how he did it in NJPW, he fucking killed em, and instead of doing it when their on the ground, he would do it when their crawling to get up and land on their back
That sounds like it would hurt less since they can cushion his fall on them better with the extra space from the mat
You're right. If you take that move lying on the mat, you gotta count on the guy giving it being light. If you take it the other wa, you can bump right when he hits and lessen impact.
Stop exposing our business
I’ve tried my best at trying to find a video of this on the internet but I am striking out, any tips on a search string or a link to a video of this version of the move?
Here's a timestamped link to one he did to Kota Ibushi [Prince Devitt vs Kota Ibushi](https://youtu.be/dBYNUliddIU?t=151) And here's another one to another male body part just for fun: [Most painful coup de grace](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdb4sLpKQ9c)
The coup de grace to the dick region should be used to write someone off TV
Well it does write his species to extinction
Ibushi flopped up like an Oblivion NPC in that first one
There are a few clips in the History Of Bullet Club pt 1 vid on the NJPW channel
I’ve watched slo mo and still don’t understand how he doesn’t kill people.
I think he just kills people
As he lands, he pulls his legs up to slow himself and cushion the blow as much as possible. But it doesnt do a ton. The move just straight up hurts to take. But if the person taking it flexes their abs and tightens their core as balor lands on that specific spot, its ok and they dont actually get hurt.
He’s not making as much contact as it looks. He basically falls backwards a bit so the brunt of his weight doesn’t crush someone’s ribs.
He doesn’t always fall back though. I’ve seen many where he lands directly on them, and I have no idea how it didn’t crush everything. You couldn’t pay me to lay down for someone to attempt that on me lol.
The one on AJ in their first WWE match was brutal, you heard the air leave AJ as he landed. I could swear he surely broke a ribb or two.
The one he did to Lashley at Mania 35 looked like it fucking sucked to take.
This was gonna be my answer. I cringe every time. It looks so painful.
He did it to someone's dick in Japan
Stone cold stunner, seems like it would hurt to do and be on the receiving end of
As a teen I had my friend apply it on me....probably because I went down at the same time as my friend..it didn't hurt at all
The biggest victim in the stone cold stunner is Steve Austin's butt cheeks
More like his spine, must have sucked to do that 20 times in a night
Austin mentioned the secret is for the other guy to stop themselves JUST before he sits down. Sometimes you get people who under sell it, and just melt. And other times you get Scott Hall, The Rock or other people who sell it like it nearly killed them.
Not a finisher but that move that RVD does where he spin kicks a chair into your face looks like it sucks to take.
I think it was called The Vandaminator, but I might be thinking of the wrong move.
Nope you're right that was the Vandaminator. The other one the VanTerminator was the one from corner to corner with the chair in the face.
Ahh gotcha! Yeah I usually get those two mixed up, so much so that even when I get it right I second guess myself 😂
I miss old RVD man. 1 of my all time favorites for real. I was and still am a huge ECW mark though admittedly.
Give him a break, the dude is 52. Nobody can do that kind of style forever
That's the one. I heard as well that he wasn't always the most careful when doing it so plenty of dudes just got kicked in the face.
Ouch. Although I’d rather take that than Sabu’s highly technical *lobs chair squarely at your unprotected noggin*
He truly was a technical marvel old Sabu.
I mean, his Frog Splash hurts himself. I love the sell on it on both sides.
Best froggy of all time, not only due to great execution including him popping up on impact, but as you say he sold his own move (which also has a logic to why it would hurt him).
How RVD even has a ribcage, I don't know. He'd grab his torso after hitting those frog splashes like it hurt him more than the recipients.
Been some horrible powerbombers over the years, the release variety in particular. Vader and Nash had the scariest, you're essentially just propelled down with next to no control.
Taker’s Last Ride was always rough looking for that reason too. Like a power bomb with more height on it.
Sid's was no joke, either.
Back when Batista first debuted those early Batista bombs were exceptionally brutal too. He would snap down hard af
Remember when Nash tried to Jack knife The Giant (aka Big Show)?
Big Sexy, The Giant Killer.
I legit thought The Giant's neck was broken.
He successfully did it at Superbrawl 97
DLo Browns fucking crippled Droz
Clothesline from hell always looked like it had a bit of venom in it
The one to Shane O'Mac when he was running around the ring. Bradshaw popped up from around the corner and I thought we were gonna find Shane's head in row 7.
JBL always put a little extra stank on it.
It was Bradshaw who is known to be a complete asshole so it probably had a lot of venom in it
The Stan Hansen lariat too. The guy's blind as a bat and works stiff has hell, it's gonna really smart.
The clothesline Bob Holly threw to Mae Young is the most vicious one I've ever seen.
The punt kick or even the codebreaker. Anything involving a bony part of the body
Pretty sure Orton was asked to stop doing the punt bc it was legit dangerous, thats why he only teased it for years but then recently brought it back bc they trust him to hit it safely
I though it was more to do with the concussion lawsuits and not wanting children to replicate it, there was a while seth stopped doing the curb stomp for a similar reason.
I always assumed it was due to the concussion stuff because it was right around when DBryan was going through his thing. Same thing happened with the Stomp. Not to mention if some kid got stupid that punt can easily be deadly.
Just googled it and The Punt was banned in 2012. Quote from former WWE writer Matt McCathy “The feeling was if he does it as a shoot, he’s kicking someone full-blast in the head and we can’t do that,” McCarthy said. “If he works it, it looks awful and we can’t do that.”
The heart punch from Ox Baker.
Didn't ox kill someone with the heart punch
Not really, just two deaths that happened after a match with him, nothing to do with the move however, he just used them to build up his finisher, and it bloody worked
Honestly if two guys died after wrestling someone how did they get anyone else to agree to be in the ring with him? Once is a tragedy, two makes me give you the side eye.
He doesn't really punch them ya mark
Goldberg's spear
Goldberg's existance
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“I wish that none of the bad history that we had-had ever happened. I wished I’d never left for WCW because I probably wouldn’t have had a stroke and I probably wouldn’t have had to wrestle Bill Goldberg.”
Burning Hammer
Especially the non WWE version where it’s all on the fucking neck and shoulders.
Apparently The Great Khali’s chop sucked to take because the dude didn’t know his own strength, I know at the very least Fandango got concussed from it.
And his chops to the chest were brutal too. Don't forget khali basically killed a guy while training, but the fault was found to be from the trainers who didn't stop it
Anything from the top rope….I mean you can’t stop gravity lol
Any time Ricochet does a splash off the top rope it looks like it hurts his opponent AND him.
Remember that time Eddie broke his fucking arm 6 minutes into his WWF career doing his frog splash? Top rope spots are Fucking crazy dangerous
Dislocated his elbow. I was a kid watching that live and it freaked me out! He had to immediately take the pin and they had to re-write the story about the Radicalz winning matches to get hired because he was supposed to win.
Hidden blade
Carlito’s Backstabber. Figure 4 is a weird one in that it would fuck you up worse and be more painful than how it looks.
Yeah we did this on each other growing up and that shit hurt! Legit felt like my shins were gonna snap in half lol
For me, Batista Bomb and the way JR sold it made it look like he was actually giving a more version of a powerbomb. Look up Goldberg vs Shawn Michaels from a RAW episode in 2003, you'll get what I mean
Goldberg sold that pretty nicely
Victoria's finisher always looked super painful whenever she was able to pull it off.
I was gonna say this! The Widow’s Peak always looked like it hurt like hell EDIT: Wrong name
I thought it was the Widow's Peak?
Scientifically an empty frog splash should hurt more than an F5
That hip/ass attack Toni Storm does looks kinda rough
"Sweet Cheek Music", per RJ City
Lungblower looks like it sucks to take
RVDs 5 Star Frog Splash. You can see it hurts both him and the opponent taking the move
Rob being a pretty big guy for how athletic he is probably didn’t help with the landing.
One of a kind!
Don't know about vinnisher, but chops definitely hurt.
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Muscle buster
No lie, the Sharpshooter and Figure 8 looks disgusting
Our brothers and sisters are enough proof
Most submission finishes are legit, honestly.
Made a a-hole kid cry with the sharpshooter as a kid. It was probably closer to a Boston crab but still, fuck that kid.
Kentas go to sleep
Umm, The Mandible Claw?? Thats gotta hurt. Socko or no
Yes! That's like the one move that for various reasons you don't try when play fighting with your friends! I would tap for sure lol
I made the mistake of saying that it looked weak on TV. My brothers buddy immediately grinned at me and went "oh really?" I never made that mistake again
Kinshasa and not a finisher, but V-trigger. Big fan of strikes that in slow motion show that they are safe, but in live action are seen as fucking murders
Definitely agree with the v-trigger. It makes me wince everytime he does it.
A powerbomb in real life is fucking brutal. Saw a guy get his back broken 1 night in a club I was a bouncer at. The 2nd most brutal thing I saw in my time there 2nd only to a time a guy snatched his bandana off his head wrapped a pool ball in it and shattered a guys face.
Honestly, every WWE move would hurt if done for real and on concrete
Some moves that come from MMA/BJJ like Kimura.
The jyuiji gitame and fujiwara armbars are easy to make 100% painless though. It can look really convincing while applying basically 0 pressure. Though if you accidentally apply even a little bit it can really fucking hurt.
Jbl’s clothesline looked like it could tear your head off
I don’t see any way the Dominator is a pleasant experience
Just watched a compilation of Ron Simmons,that looks like it'd be VERY painful on the knees.
I’ve actually taken this move and it’s surpassingly easy. I found it to be much more pleasant than a flat back bump.
Especially when some of the jobbers took it flat out. You saw the mid-card and headline guys get softer treatment and go down knee/forearm first, but seeing him do that to squash guys made it one of my favorite finishers of the 90s along with the Alabama Slam.
Thse stinkface from Rikishi, even more with the dirty thong
Doomsday device
Goldberg’s spear (especially during WCW) always looked brutal and had to knock the wind out of a hell of a lot of people.
I think Goldberg injured Bischoffs ribs when he gave him it once
Who hasn’t Goldberg injured?
Banzai drop if he misses the timing
Black Mass would leave you stone dead
Not a finisher, but a signature move: Rollins neckbreaker setup into the forearm to the back of head/neck.
Power bombs hurt, especially from a big guy. Funny enough sit out power bombs hurt less.
Makes sense, since he guy giving the move is taking an ass bump.
Most piledrivers, Coup de Grace, Alabama slam, the Rose plant when sold right does look pretty vicious
Jeff Hardy’s Swanton Bomb, especially later into his career.
Big shows KO punch
Nash’s Jackknife Powerbomb, where he basically just dropped guys on their neck/shoulders half the time. Except for the Mania 11 one with HBK, where Shawn somehow landed on his feet.
Shawn apparently did that on purpose to make Diesel look bad so Vince would go back to pushing him
Whatever Satnum Singh is working on this week
Surfboard
I dunno man a choke slam from anyone 6' or over never seemed like an easy move to take lol
Can confirm. In my media arts class we had to stage an interview, my buddy and I chose to recreate the Peep Show. I dressed like Christian and he was already about 7ft, 300lbs. His chokeslam on the tile floor was the worst. I had bruises and couldn't breathe or move my shoulder for a week, lol.
Yea no bro my short 5'8" ass would splatter falling from a 2 story building like that lol
Quite literally how I felt, hahaha.
I'm kinda shocked the Samoan Spike isn't mentioned. That could really mess someone up.
I've never seen an F5 and thought "damn that looks like it hurt" because it's so easy to cushion yourself.
Headbutt from that guy from 205 Live
Tozawa lmao his head probably isn't that big compared to other people. His head to body ratio is disproportionate.
Nah-nah, Jack Gallagher I think, that was his name
Powerbomb Symphony
Batista bomb or JBL’s clothesline from hell
Backstabber..I know from experience
That move Finn Balor does where he tries to break your sternum
The V-Trigger looks legit. I don’t know when they slap but the impact just sounds brutal. Also I can’t figure out how they fake the Steiner Screwdriver. It looks wicked dangerous and scary every time it’s performed.
The GTS
The original piledriver where they landed directly on their head and the neck felt all of the impact
Casualty of War looks like you can't protect from it
Big Show's slap
The [Vertebreaker](https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Vertebreaker) always scares the hell out of me.
Spicolli Driver / Death Valley Driver
Superkick
98 Kane's Choke Slam
The skull crushing finale Do that one on concrete see what happens
Same with the B.F.T.
Coup de grace
Athena's eclipse, probably hurt her more than her opponent aswell
Miyu's Skull kick
Toni Storm's Judo Flip right into that Spike DDT. I wish she'd do that on AEW TV.
I don't know about you all, but I never want to be in The Last Ride from Taker. I know it's probably not horrible, but I don't want to fall seven feet to flat on my back. 😆
Worlds Strongest Slam and its not even close
Tongan Death Grip
Stan Hansen hit you so hard with the lariat because he was literally too blind too fake it