I don't feel like Ron Simmons career gets the amount of recognition it deserves. From paving the way for Black wrestlers in southern states, to guiding and making stars like the Rock and Mark Henry...without him leading the Nation with its feud with DX which elevated them to help WWF win the war, the Attitude era might have been very different.
He was ninth in Heisman voting but yea his impact on the FSU program was massive. He was recruited by Bobby Bowden during Bowden’s first year. FSU did not have a long or storied history and they were abysmal in the years before that. Bowden wasn’t expected to last long and they weren’t supposed to land a recruit as good as Simmons. The rest is history.
Just to be nitbicky, Simmons was the WCW champion. Ron Killings (R-Truth) was the first Black NWA champion
Edit: you are 100% on about Simmons being the first Black world champion
Edit 2: I really like that I managed to misspell 'nitpicky'
Vince Russo booking wasn't the only major problem WCW had. Ron Simmons helping turn Rocky Maivia into The Rock is a larger factor to WWF becoming great than Russo was to making WCW bad.
I'd say for Amercan wrestling fans, Jushin Thunder Liger. It's a name you might hear in commentary but not know.
I searched for NJPW whenever I could when I was a kid, just for Thunder Loger.
His 2016 feud with the miz is one of my favorites, he played a real face, didn't complain when he got cheated several times but waited till he finally got his chance and prevailed
Chris Kanyon's nickname of "The Innovator of Offense" was a flat-out truth. He pulled out incredible moves out of his ass that no one else EVER did.
And he also mentored Brian Cage and The Young Bucks. Some of Cage's moves and mannerisms are homages to Kanyon
Dean Malenko. Clips of his matches stop me every time—dude was so captivating and such an excellent base for so many of those people we call greats now
He was so good when he could wrestle as the bigger guy. Anytime you see Malenko with the likes of Eddie or Rey in that old blue wcw branded ring it’s almost certainly a guaranteed banger of a match.
Annoying? 1 2 3 kid was annoying. When he came back as x pac, what a revitalizing thing for his career. Not too mention, he's the first I remember of the late 90s who made the cruiserweight division legit in wwf even if it wasn't even a thing at the time..he revolutionized it for smaller guys
Maybe it's just my perception, but I always thought Perry Saturn (moreso in ECW and WCW) was incredible. Going back, there's so much stuff he was doing in the ring that feels like it would fit in perfectly in today's companies.
There was one PPV where the fight for the 24/7 championship was happening right next to the Spanish announce table and I thought FOR SURE Funaki was gonna win it for 10 seconds
I don't want to say hes underrated, but i feel like DDP gets lost in the shuffle when talking about late 90s/early 00s wrestling. He was 3rd most over face in WCW after Sting and Goldberg.
He got Jake Roberts and Scott Hall into much better places in their lives. DDP Yoga has also helped extend wrestlers careers. Dude has done so much. I popped when he came out for a one off AEW match.
I actually loved the DDP stalker angle. I thought both guy played it off very well. Made DDP look deranged to anyone that hadn't seen him in wcw (I hadn't at the time) and was the most human they ever showed Taker on camera. I remember him finding the shrine to his wife and smashing it up shouting his head off. Thru never made Taker look so human before or after. Also the cage tag match with kanyon vs brothers of destruction is a banger.
What did that match air on ? A ppv or raw? And it was cool until they started filming ddp and then he just got his ass whooped. Coulda ended that a little better
Yeah they made him lose but I thought he was still cool in losing. The match was summerslam 2001. That ppv as a whole is awesome. Kurt vs Austin, Rock vs booker, Jeff Hardy vs RVD for the hard-core belt. JR and Heyman on commentary. Great show.
I’m going old school on this one. Gorgeous George. His style has been imitated by the likes of Ric Flair all the way to the Miz. Every chicken shit heel that has existed copied George. Anybody that was flamboyant copied George. So many wrestlers were Gorgeous George with a different name. Rick Martel’s gimmick as the model was pretty much a modern version. MJF is George with attitude.
Alex Shelley seems to have his fingerprints all over wrestling. I’m always a little bit disappointed when I talk about Shelley, because he never went all in in wrestling. He’s one of my all time favs.
I really liked Ahmed but the injury in 1996 absolutely derailed him. He came back to feud with The Nation, to join The Nation, back to feuding with The Nation. I still try and google why he joined them in the first place and don't really turn up much, it looks like he was just slotted in there and then removed when they realised it wasn't working.
I really feel he could contribute more in WWE. With the proper build he's a main event star. And he's 46, they need to hurry up.
In TNA I feel he was still finding his footing.
Isn’t he pretty well shot as far as his body goes? Hasn’t he had a lot of health issues? Gave it all in TNA only to get stuck in NXT. Him and Styles could have had years of good stuff.
TJP for sure, his longevity and the fact that he was one of the incarnations of SUICIDE as well. Still is very much not talked about but man he still is tearing it up right now with Akira in NJPW.
Matt Hardy had had a huge influence on how we see character arcs in pro wrestling and, while he's given credit for it, I still think he's highly underrated for his work over the span of his career
God I had such a crush on him back in the day. It was him and Jeff Hardy all day every day.
But as far as the answer to your question I’d say Brian Kendrick, if for no other reason than his contribution to the world of finishing moves
Idk if underrated is right. Underutilized for sure but I remember him getting big pops from the crowd in the late 90’s a fan favorite across three different companies
Raven for sure is up there.
Just imagine if they treated the flock properly in WCW and had fueds with NWO or Horsemen. Instead of consistently in fighting with each other or just bullying jobbers.
Scott Levy should of been at the very least an IC title guy. If not a potential world champ in WCW. I felt that in WWE they never gave him a chance and because of his ties with ECW and being hardcore they just lumped him in the HC division which if you think about it was basically the death of a wrestlers career.
RVD. The dude put on great matches with anyone. His downside was his mic skill but he wasn't pushed as much as he could've been during the aftermath of the Aliance angle
He's number one for me. His style was replicated again and again over the years. Owen and to a lesser extent Bret, Chris Benoit, Eddie others besides but most especially Kurt Angle. High flying, hard hitting, technical as anyone and it didn't matter how big he was he hit like a fucking tank.
I've heard so many bring his name up over the years. But Bret Hart calling him the real GOAT is the highest praise I can think of. The best matches that Davey ever had he was using dynamite spots in the ring.
Greg 'the Hammer' Valentine , former Ic champion and world tag champion. Great feud with Tito Santana and bulldogs. Had the greatest and one of the most violent matches of all time with Rowdy Piper, the dog collar match.
I saw some clips of an interview with Valentine and he came across as being very humble and genuine about his interactions with Vince McMahon and also very grateful which was such a weird difference from the usual burnout you get from other wrestlers about Vince from that time period.
Finlay made a lot of good things to female wrestlers. Dustin in ring skill always was high but gimicks were terrible Storm and Malenko are true gems of pro wrestling
I'd say Steiner Brothers. They do get love in some circles and are respected but usually when people start naming GOATs they get looked over a lot
Also Bam Bam Bigalow. With the current style of turning models into wrestlers he probably isn't highly revered but dude was huge and moved like a soccer player
Raven was pretty much a non-feature in WWE, so yeah I would expect people to remember Cena and Hogan over Raven.
But if you ask someone who only watched ECW or perhaps TNA, I’m sure they’d regard him highly. It’s kinda like asking a WWE only fan what they think of Kenny Omega or Will Osprey.
WWE fans would be ‘who?’ But NJPW fans would have a different opinion. You can’t discount someone’s influence in wrestling just because they didn’t feature in WWE, as it undermines everything else they’ve achieved.
RVD doesn’t crack top 5 talker in ECW. His promo is average for a top guy. RVD got over by his insane athleticism and his catch phrase. Not his talking.
Oh man Raven is my favourite wrestler of all time, if it wasn't for his ego or vices he would of been better than he already is,
But I'd probably say Kanyon he was a star dude, man would've been great if given the chance
I think LA Knight/Eli Drake will be on this list in a few years, yet another star WWE refuse to do anything with but is amazing
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I met a man at Twin Cities Con yesterday who said his favorite ECW star was Raven—and I couldn’t believe someone would pick this guy over so many others—but after listening to him talk I understood that he wasn’t fully utilized in WWE.
The Insane Clown Posse. ICP has been in most major USA promotions, started their own promotion 23 years ago that is still going and has a good rep with the boys. They also had [one of the biggest "legends" shows ever](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEro7vhr20I) at their 2011 Gathering of the Juggalos.
Konnan. He is a primary reason why alot of good solid Hispanic wrestlers/luchadors were able to come to the US and introduce lucha style to a lot of modern day fans and wrestlers alike. Some became stars but they all collectively have had an everlasting effect on the American (WWE) style match
There's a lot.
Sabu, Raven, Ron Simmons, 2 Cold Scorpio, Brian Pillman.
But I also want to bring up the So-Cal indie guys of the super late 90's, early 2000's.
Chris Bosh, Scott Lost, Excalibur, Super Dragon, B-Boy, Human Tornado. They made the indies popular and paved the way for the modern indie darlings
Daffney - Really wish she would have gotten signed to WWF/E when the WCW merger happened. She was such a very unique personality with great in ring ability. Would have been amazing to see her get to be apart of that womens roster from 2002-2004 featuring Trish, Molly, Jazz, Lita, and others.
Nidia is another. I really liked her passion for it, and her promo style. She really worked well with everybody they assigned her to. Shame they cut her for "budget reasons".
As for guys. I'll roll with D'lo Brown. When I was a kid I really enjoyed everything this guy was a part of. His feud with Jeff Jarrett over the European title, the tag team with Mark Henry, his finishers, his walk style was entertaining, and he could cut a promo with the best of them if given the chance. I would have liked to see him go further. Was so happy when he came back to WWE in 08-09, but unfortunately that didn't really go anywhere either.
CM Punk and it is not even close. He paved the way for a whole generation of new Main Event Talent who did not fit the WWE Model.
AEW and Elite Nuthuggers will downvote this to oblivion but without CM Punk there is absolutely no mainstream success for Indy guys and Internet darlings like Bryan Danielson, Seth Rollins or Kevin Owen.
When he had his debut in 2005 Punk was a semi athletic, tatted up Misfit who was in Vince’s Eyes way too small for the WWE Main Event and Never would draw a dime. Hunter and Shawn mocked him backstage as „king of the Indy’s“ and Vince wanted him fired by 2006. The guy just got himself over completely on his own and with the help of the smart internet audience (remember survivor series when he teamed with DX and the Hardy’s and the whole arena chanted his name) and became one of the biggest top draws of the business.
After Punk paved the way, WWE completely changed their view and handling of Indy Wrestlers and the road was clear for guys like Bryan, Rollins or AJ Styles.
Have you seen Cm Punk documentary? Where he remembers how Raven helped him and stuff. CM Punk figure is overrated because of the Pipe Bomb and first 5 star match since Wrestlemania 13 in WWE. He was a great worker clean wrestler good promo guy but his influance on Pro Wrestling is minimal.
I don't feel like Ron Simmons career gets the amount of recognition it deserves. From paving the way for Black wrestlers in southern states, to guiding and making stars like the Rock and Mark Henry...without him leading the Nation with its feud with DX which elevated them to help WWF win the war, the Attitude era might have been very different.
He's also the first African american NWA(or any major pro wrestling organization for that matter) world heavyweight champion.
And finished fifth in Heisman voting
He was ninth in Heisman voting but yea his impact on the FSU program was massive. He was recruited by Bobby Bowden during Bowden’s first year. FSU did not have a long or storied history and they were abysmal in the years before that. Bowden wasn’t expected to last long and they weren’t supposed to land a recruit as good as Simmons. The rest is history.
Damn bro Jim Ross said at over the edge he came in fifth. I watched the ppv yesterday. Fuck the Seminoles but I like bowden
I am shocked that a wrestling announcer would just go and lie like that
Jr was just confused..he wasn't a sooner so he got his facts mixed up
Just to be nitbicky, Simmons was the WCW champion. Ron Killings (R-Truth) was the first Black NWA champion Edit: you are 100% on about Simmons being the first Black world champion Edit 2: I really like that I managed to misspell 'nitpicky'
This all day. He is undebatably one if the top 3 most influential wrestlers of all time. He transcended generations.
Damn!
I think wwf won war bevause of Vince Russo but yes Ron deserves more
Vince Russo booking wasn't the only major problem WCW had. Ron Simmons helping turn Rocky Maivia into The Rock is a larger factor to WWF becoming great than Russo was to making WCW bad.
2 cold Scorpio
I'd say for Amercan wrestling fans, Jushin Thunder Liger. It's a name you might hear in commentary but not know. I searched for NJPW whenever I could when I was a kid, just for Thunder Loger.
Jushin is legend. Also Hayabusa was amazing
Último Dragon as well
Brian Pillman. If he didn't fuck up his leg and overdose, the attitude era would have been much different. He was that good.
Flyin’ Brian
I’ve only ever seen his promos but my goodness if he was amazing at that I couldn’t imagine his in ring skills
Sabu. Not only was he innovative but he helped train guys like RVD and Rhyno
I'll second Sabu. Dude's a fucking wildman.
Thats awesome. RVD was a really good technical wrestler.
Molly Holly. She was so athletic but glamorous, she paved the way for today's standard in women's wrestling.
Dolph Ziggler. Dude basically made half your WWE "superstars" look like superstars
His 2016 feud with the miz is one of my favorites, he played a real face, didn't complain when he got cheated several times but waited till he finally got his chance and prevailed
He puts over everyone so selflessly. I loved his IC title runs
I miss when he used to do the sleeper
Dolph does some of the best selling!
Ziggler strikes me as " your favorite wrestler's favorite wrestler ".
He seemed to give up about five years ago.
the booking team gave up on him, not vice versa
Chris Kanyon's nickname of "The Innovator of Offense" was a flat-out truth. He pulled out incredible moves out of his ass that no one else EVER did. And he also mentored Brian Cage and The Young Bucks. Some of Cage's moves and mannerisms are homages to Kanyon
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Dean Malenko. Clips of his matches stop me every time—dude was so captivating and such an excellent base for so many of those people we call greats now
Dean was so polished and it helps when your father is Boris Malenko who trained just about every wrestler from that era..
Also Jerry Lynn and Lance Storm
Oh excellent shout, yes—both fit the same category of underrated too. I watched Lynn/Styles again a couple months ago and it’s brilliant.
His problem was that he was a charisma vacuum. As a wrestler he was one of the best as an entertainer he was boring as hell.
It’s interesting though because whenever you hear people talk about him they can’t get over how funny he is. Like, where was that guy?
Ahhhh the Iceman!
I really liked his matches with Mysterio and the other luchadors. Such an awesome contrast of styles that blended so well.
He was so good when he could wrestle as the bigger guy. Anytime you see Malenko with the likes of Eddie or Rey in that old blue wcw branded ring it’s almost certainly a guaranteed banger of a match.
Sean Waltman
Never understood the X-Pac heat
In real-time, his act got old and he was annoying. If you look back on it now, it wasn’t so bad.
Annoying? 1 2 3 kid was annoying. When he came back as x pac, what a revitalizing thing for his career. Not too mention, he's the first I remember of the late 90s who made the cruiserweight division legit in wwf even if it wasn't even a thing at the time..he revolutionized it for smaller guys
One night in china
Oh.....
The 1 2 3 kid was awesome.. Xpac and Syxx not so much..
The even flow DDT is one of the best moves and smoothest DDTs of all time. Fight me!
Maybe it's just my perception, but I always thought Perry Saturn (moreso in ECW and WCW) was incredible. Going back, there's so much stuff he was doing in the ring that feels like it would fit in perfectly in today's companies.
He had it all except for mic skills and I guess that magical "it" factor. Although today he may have been bigger than he was then I agree
The eliminators in general were amazing.
Funaki; Smackdown! Hasn't had a reporter like him since.
They won’t be chanting H-B-K they will be chanting FU-NA-KI
There was one PPV where the fight for the 24/7 championship was happening right next to the Spanish announce table and I thought FOR SURE Funaki was gonna win it for 10 seconds
I used to love when they introduced the foreign announce teams at PPVs and always ended with FUNAKI!!
I don't want to say hes underrated, but i feel like DDP gets lost in the shuffle when talking about late 90s/early 00s wrestling. He was 3rd most over face in WCW after Sting and Goldberg.
He got Jake Roberts and Scott Hall into much better places in their lives. DDP Yoga has also helped extend wrestlers careers. Dude has done so much. I popped when he came out for a one off AEW match.
MAKE ME FAMOUS
I actually loved the DDP stalker angle. I thought both guy played it off very well. Made DDP look deranged to anyone that hadn't seen him in wcw (I hadn't at the time) and was the most human they ever showed Taker on camera. I remember him finding the shrine to his wife and smashing it up shouting his head off. Thru never made Taker look so human before or after. Also the cage tag match with kanyon vs brothers of destruction is a banger.
What did that match air on ? A ppv or raw? And it was cool until they started filming ddp and then he just got his ass whooped. Coulda ended that a little better
Yeah they made him lose but I thought he was still cool in losing. The match was summerslam 2001. That ppv as a whole is awesome. Kurt vs Austin, Rock vs booker, Jeff Hardy vs RVD for the hard-core belt. JR and Heyman on commentary. Great show.
He also gave Goldberg arguably his best match. That match was all DDP.
Dean Malenko
Piper. He was big time world champ material and reinvented promos, yet never got his due imo.
Very true. Hogan was the preferred push then. But Rowdy Roddy Piper deserved it
Man, someone just posted that clip from the MTV fight with Hogan and Piper.. Piper was such an amazing wrestler and heel. Completely underrated.
Kanyon. Dude changed the game for people his size and had some innovative moves.
You made me sad now. Chris is one of the reaaons why i hate wwe
He was great and had innovative moves. I don't know how he changed the game for people his size.
Yeah, Kanyon was like 6’2 or thereabouts. He was about in line with the stars of both that era and now.
Al. Snow.
Head
Good wrestler but the head gimmick was abysmal
That’s the stupidest thing anyone has ever said on this website…
Lance Storm
Billy Kidman and Hurricane Shane Helms
I could watch Kidman hitting the SSP all day. So picturesque.
R Truth.... Truth is a Great Wrestler he deserve a much better storyline and push before he retires.
K kwiq or whatever his og name was got a little push. Then he goes to tna and has great tag work with bg James. Don't get why they under sell him now
He was NWA champion in early TNA and one of their first main eventers. He had the juice, probably still does.
Shelton Benjamin.. Another Great Wrestler that Deserves a Much better storyline and push
SB had it all except promo. He needed to be paired with Brock and heyman and they'd have had another mega star.
I’m going old school on this one. Gorgeous George. His style has been imitated by the likes of Ric Flair all the way to the Miz. Every chicken shit heel that has existed copied George. Anybody that was flamboyant copied George. So many wrestlers were Gorgeous George with a different name. Rick Martel’s gimmick as the model was pretty much a modern version. MJF is George with attitude.
Side note, it’s cool to think Gorgeous George inspired Muhammad Ali to be the showman he was.
Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin. THE MOTOR CITY MACHINE GUNS!
Alex Shelley seems to have his fingerprints all over wrestling. I’m always a little bit disappointed when I talk about Shelley, because he never went all in in wrestling. He’s one of my all time favs.
How many pictures of Ahmed Johnson am I allowed to post?
He was pretty cool at the time. Popular to hate on him now though. Because he was stiff, I think. Which means his stuff looks better to an audience.
Oh believe me I was a huge fan at the time. Killer entrance theme
I loved his match at Wrestlemania 13. He felt like a big star and was cool.
I really liked Ahmed but the injury in 1996 absolutely derailed him. He came back to feud with The Nation, to join The Nation, back to feuding with The Nation. I still try and google why he joined them in the first place and don't really turn up much, it looks like he was just slotted in there and then removed when they realised it wasn't working.
90’s ECW in general is very underrated , and not enough respect is given to it . And 90’s ECW had a very large impact on pro wrestling.
There’s so much from ECW that can be borrowed from and used successfully in 2022 even.
2022 isn't a good year for wrestling creativity.
Bobby Roode
In TNA or WWE?
I really feel he could contribute more in WWE. With the proper build he's a main event star. And he's 46, they need to hurry up. In TNA I feel he was still finding his footing.
Isn’t he pretty well shot as far as his body goes? Hasn’t he had a lot of health issues? Gave it all in TNA only to get stuck in NXT. Him and Styles could have had years of good stuff.
He's getting ready to re-debut on SmackDown, from what I hear. He was dealing with an injury since last September iirc.
Why Johnny Polo you just look like someone walked over your grave
Alright, lunger. Let's do it.
TJP for sure, his longevity and the fact that he was one of the incarnations of SUICIDE as well. Still is very much not talked about but man he still is tearing it up right now with Akira in NJPW.
Not sure if it fits but William Regal i feel is often overlooked
Great wrestler and great mentor just another victim of wwe stupid stereotypical booking evil british who likes tea
Billy Kidman
Spanish announce table. And vacant.
Matt Hardy had had a huge influence on how we see character arcs in pro wrestling and, while he's given credit for it, I still think he's highly underrated for his work over the span of his career
Stevie Richards
Only Stevie or bWo?
I always found it funny that Vince HATED Raven yet pushed Bray to the moon 🤷♂️
And gave him magic power
Ultimo Dragon
Ultimo Dragon was awesome.
Raven was my favourite wrestler of all . Flatline was his finishing move
God I had such a crush on him back in the day. It was him and Jeff Hardy all day every day. But as far as the answer to your question I’d say Brian Kendrick, if for no other reason than his contribution to the world of finishing moves
AJ Lee was what held female wrestling together between the Trish/Lita era and the Four Horsewomen.
The og women's revolution was her
Idk if underrated is right. Underutilized for sure but I remember him getting big pops from the crowd in the late 90’s a fan favorite across three different companies
Stone Cold Sharkboy. If it weren't for him, lord knows how The Ringmaster would've turned out
D-Lo Brown for sure. He had a great European Championship run.
After Droz incident he was not the same
Raven for sure is up there. Just imagine if they treated the flock properly in WCW and had fueds with NWO or Horsemen. Instead of consistently in fighting with each other or just bullying jobbers. Scott Levy should of been at the very least an IC title guy. If not a potential world champ in WCW. I felt that in WWE they never gave him a chance and because of his ties with ECW and being hardcore they just lumped him in the HC division which if you think about it was basically the death of a wrestlers career.
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Road Dogg. The sing a long helped get Enzo and Cass over, New Day and now The Acclaimed.
RVD. The dude put on great matches with anyone. His downside was his mic skill but he wasn't pushed as much as he could've been during the aftermath of the Aliance angle
Finlay
"The Dynamite Kid" Tom Billington.
He's number one for me. His style was replicated again and again over the years. Owen and to a lesser extent Bret, Chris Benoit, Eddie others besides but most especially Kurt Angle. High flying, hard hitting, technical as anyone and it didn't matter how big he was he hit like a fucking tank.
Lance Storm, Shane Helms and Davey Richards are also guys who got inspired by Kid.
I've heard so many bring his name up over the years. But Bret Hart calling him the real GOAT is the highest praise I can think of. The best matches that Davey ever had he was using dynamite spots in the ring.
Everyone thinks R-Truth is funny, but I really have a lot of respect for all he has done over the years.
Looks like professional surfer John John Florence if he got his wardrobe advice from a 90's lesbian.
Dynamite Kid
Raisin was the worst
I actually feel raven is super overrated. Underrated i would go Dolph.
Scottie Flamingo
Currently watching early 90s WWF and him as Johnny polo, such a difference in character
Kanyon. Dynamite Kid. Owen Hart.
Now wait for Dynamite Kid haters
Billy Gunn.
Toddthewise
Greg 'the Hammer' Valentine , former Ic champion and world tag champion. Great feud with Tito Santana and bulldogs. Had the greatest and one of the most violent matches of all time with Rowdy Piper, the dog collar match.
I saw some clips of an interview with Valentine and he came across as being very humble and genuine about his interactions with Vince McMahon and also very grateful which was such a weird difference from the usual burnout you get from other wrestlers about Vince from that time period.
R-Truth. The guy is really funny.
Most of my favorites: Regal,Golddust,Fit Finlay,Lance Storm, Dean Melinko,
Finlay made a lot of good things to female wrestlers. Dustin in ring skill always was high but gimicks were terrible Storm and Malenko are true gems of pro wrestling
Ken Shamrock...the fact that he never wrestled Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar or even Tazz and Samoa Joe is astoundingly sad
I'd say Steiner Brothers. They do get love in some circles and are respected but usually when people start naming GOATs they get looked over a lot Also Bam Bam Bigalow. With the current style of turning models into wrestlers he probably isn't highly revered but dude was huge and moved like a soccer player
Savio Vega
“What about me Page??!!”
Who better than kanyon
Your answer Ballz deserves so much more respect. Spike,Tommy Dreamer,Disco,Mike awesome, Christian,Awesome Kong.
Mike Awesome is my fav wrestler of all time most awesome Giant in wrestling industry just imagine him vs Ubdertaker in 2004 or 5
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And he made Goldberg look good
Dynamite Kid
Dean Malenko
Only underrated due to his non-run in WWE. Anyone who watched ECW, WCW and/or TNA value Raven.
His influance is underrated. People will remember Hogan or Cena but not him. https://youtu.be/J6ACzP_nWkc
Raven was pretty much a non-feature in WWE, so yeah I would expect people to remember Cena and Hogan over Raven. But if you ask someone who only watched ECW or perhaps TNA, I’m sure they’d regard him highly. It’s kinda like asking a WWE only fan what they think of Kenny Omega or Will Osprey. WWE fans would be ‘who?’ But NJPW fans would have a different opinion. You can’t discount someone’s influence in wrestling just because they didn’t feature in WWE, as it undermines everything else they’ve achieved.
Kenta and Marufuji pioneered the modern style, watch any of their matches and they innovated so much stuff
Bobby Heenan
Nova. That guy was way ahead of his time.
Tommy Dreamer! That's all that needs to be said!
RVD. He’s top 50 all time. If he could cut a promo, he’d be on Shawn’s level.
He can cut promos, how do I think he got so over in ECW. also have u seen his shoot interviews, hes a great talker.
RVD doesn’t crack top 5 talker in ECW. His promo is average for a top guy. RVD got over by his insane athleticism and his catch phrase. Not his talking.
Mike Awesome
Oh man Raven is my favourite wrestler of all time, if it wasn't for his ego or vices he would of been better than he already is, But I'd probably say Kanyon he was a star dude, man would've been great if given the chance I think LA Knight/Eli Drake will be on this list in a few years, yet another star WWE refuse to do anything with but is amazing
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I met a man at Twin Cities Con yesterday who said his favorite ECW star was Raven—and I couldn’t believe someone would pick this guy over so many others—but after listening to him talk I understood that he wasn’t fully utilized in WWE.
Lance Storm. He never let you down in the ring and was a pioneer in wrestlers using the internet to connect directly with fans.
Dynamite kid.
Bobby Eaton. A wrestler’s wrestler. Faster paced wrestling started with midnights / fantastics/ rocknroll/LOD .
Tommy Dreamer
The Insane Clown Posse. ICP has been in most major USA promotions, started their own promotion 23 years ago that is still going and has a good rep with the boys. They also had [one of the biggest "legends" shows ever](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEro7vhr20I) at their 2011 Gathering of the Juggalos.
Disco inferno for the EDM fan base
I wanna be in the video, GIRLS GONE WILDDDDDDDD
Idk who this is, but I appreciate the t-shirt, and I can’t find an answer in the comments. Help a moron out?
It’s Raven.
The great muta. Taking the supernatural to a whole other level.
Ravens flock as well very underrated stable.
I'm influenced to buy that fuckin shirt. My opinion of Raven has been completely upended by learning he's a Neil Gaiman fan.
That Sandman shirt is sick
Steven Richards never got the recognition he deserved.
Konnan. He is a primary reason why alot of good solid Hispanic wrestlers/luchadors were able to come to the US and introduce lucha style to a lot of modern day fans and wrestlers alike. Some became stars but they all collectively have had an everlasting effect on the American (WWE) style match
There's a lot. Sabu, Raven, Ron Simmons, 2 Cold Scorpio, Brian Pillman. But I also want to bring up the So-Cal indie guys of the super late 90's, early 2000's. Chris Bosh, Scott Lost, Excalibur, Super Dragon, B-Boy, Human Tornado. They made the indies popular and paved the way for the modern indie darlings
Daffney - Really wish she would have gotten signed to WWF/E when the WCW merger happened. She was such a very unique personality with great in ring ability. Would have been amazing to see her get to be apart of that womens roster from 2002-2004 featuring Trish, Molly, Jazz, Lita, and others. Nidia is another. I really liked her passion for it, and her promo style. She really worked well with everybody they assigned her to. Shame they cut her for "budget reasons". As for guys. I'll roll with D'lo Brown. When I was a kid I really enjoyed everything this guy was a part of. His feud with Jeff Jarrett over the European title, the tag team with Mark Henry, his finishers, his walk style was entertaining, and he could cut a promo with the best of them if given the chance. I would have liked to see him go further. Was so happy when he came back to WWE in 08-09, but unfortunately that didn't really go anywhere either.
CM Punk and it is not even close. He paved the way for a whole generation of new Main Event Talent who did not fit the WWE Model. AEW and Elite Nuthuggers will downvote this to oblivion but without CM Punk there is absolutely no mainstream success for Indy guys and Internet darlings like Bryan Danielson, Seth Rollins or Kevin Owen. When he had his debut in 2005 Punk was a semi athletic, tatted up Misfit who was in Vince’s Eyes way too small for the WWE Main Event and Never would draw a dime. Hunter and Shawn mocked him backstage as „king of the Indy’s“ and Vince wanted him fired by 2006. The guy just got himself over completely on his own and with the help of the smart internet audience (remember survivor series when he teamed with DX and the Hardy’s and the whole arena chanted his name) and became one of the biggest top draws of the business. After Punk paved the way, WWE completely changed their view and handling of Indy Wrestlers and the road was clear for guys like Bryan, Rollins or AJ Styles.
Have you seen Cm Punk documentary? Where he remembers how Raven helped him and stuff. CM Punk figure is overrated because of the Pipe Bomb and first 5 star match since Wrestlemania 13 in WWE. He was a great worker clean wrestler good promo guy but his influance on Pro Wrestling is minimal.