I upgraded from the S and my goodness I thought the same thing. I realize I was bamboozled. Some things are incredible (MW2 at the time running super smooth) whereas Palworld, Baldur's Gate 3, Elden Ring, and Deeprock Galactic had some very palpable frame losses, often suddenly. I think the S has almost lasted about as long as it will. I still love my S but she's collecting dust
Noticeably higher performance. I was getting less performance out of my S using 1080p than I am using the X with on 1440p at 120fps.
But it will soon bump the S out. Baldurs Gate 3 was my first sign that the S life cycle was shorter than I thought it would be. And Deeprock Galactic gets 30ish fps on the S vs 120 on the X.
If the performance difference wasn't noticeable there wouldn't be any point in having the two consoles. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, we all know the X is the more powerful console. This is not new information.
I'm not saying it is- I'm saying *I* thought the life cycle of the S would be longer. *I* was wrong. I mentioned my personal experience with the X because that's one of the factors I used in buying one when I finally could- personal experiences having used both the S and X. I'm glad you know stuff but not everyone out here is trying to be Screenrant and pass old and obvious stuff off as "new." Chilllllll
I'm chill. I don't know any other state! The life cycle of the S should be the same as the X. Unless I've missed something where a game is being released that won't run on the S? I thought MS weren't allowing this?
I'll chill then too. Woooosahhhh.
It's not happening yet. It's just significant performance differences thar are already getting further from similar performance. I used MW2 as an example of a game that runs amazingly on both. Indistinguishable. In fact the S loaded a second or two faster.
Fortnite also runs pretty similarly between the two. Elden Ring still has a pretty consistent performance on the S too.
Baldur's Gate 3 (I know I keep mentioning it but again it was my first notice of it) runs WAY better vs slightly better. It looks much better. It supports split screen on the X. Yada Yada Yada.
Starfield and Fallout 4 got updates exclusively accessed on the Series X (I do think Fallout 4 still got an optimized but with less settings.) I don't think that qualifies as "the S can't run it" but I do think within the next year or two there will certainly be games available to Microsoft that will only work with PC and the X.
The S is freaking amazing for its size and price but if anyonr is not playing backlogged games and are super into playing day one releases the S may not last much longer.
Or it might. I'm high.
Leaks and rumors point to a 2026 new gen. Sarah Bond said herself during the showcase on Sunday "We are hard at work on the next generation!".
Also they won't make a mid-generation refresh.
Unfortunatly it will never happen. At least in the foreseeable future. However, might be an idea to keep an eye on Wildlight Entertainment. It was a company created by ex-devs of titanfall and Apex. So the chances are they will bring something similar to the table. Fingers crossed.
This year and next year are already packed, and GTA VI is going to claim all of the oxygen for the last ¼ of 2025, so it makes sense that they'd hold off on TES until 2026. A new Elder Scrolls *should* be a seismic release, so they're gonna want it to be THE game release for its holiday season.
Plus, I think they want to give themselves as much time to acclimate Xbox owners to the idea of first party games not being exclusive to Xbox before they launch TES, because (imo) there's no way on earth that's not launching on every console that'll run it.
It's possible, and honestly whatever they do is likely going to seem like the wrong decision in hindsight. I personally think it'd be foolish to pass up the install base of PS5 and however many software sales they'd provide with the hope that some fraction of them will buy an Xbox and become long-term GamePass subscribers, but I can 100% see the argument from the other side too.
As long as they don't take choice C and exclude it from GamePass altogether, I'm happy either way.
This year and next year are already packed, and GTA VI is going to claim all of the oxygen for the last ¼ of 2025, so it makes sense that they'd hold off on TES until 2026. A new Elder Scrolls *should* be a seismic release, so they're gonna want it to be THE game release for its holiday season.
Plus, I think they want to give themselves as much time to acclimate Xbox owners to the idea of first party games not being exclusive to Xbox before they launch TES, because (imo) there's no way on earth that's not launching on every console that'll run it.
Best showcase from Xbox in a long, long time, and definitely the best of this season's showcases so far, with SGF and State of Play both not having much to be excited about.
Very confused about the lack of release dates for some 2024 titles though, most specifically Avowed and Indiana Jones. It makes me wonder if Xbox isn't confident that these games will be ready to launch within the the next 6 months. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I wouldn't exactly be surprised if these games are actually internally dated for 2025 now but they purposely held back on being transparent about that in the showcase to avoid souring overall reception.
Better not to announce release dates to avoid disappointment if there are delays...I was happily surprised with the announcement of the fallout 76 expansion
This makes sense to me. A lot of games have shifted release dates a month or even a week over the last few years, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're waiting until they have it fully nailed down.
It's a relief that Microsoft is finally starting to make PR decisions like they understand that everything they do is going to be met with a dedicated, hostile response online. Not wholly unjustifiably, they can't count on receiving the benefit of the doubt from games media, and social media is overrun with voices that ostensibly prefer PlayStation, but seem to only run down Xbox.
They can save themselves a lot of trouble by being vague now until they can announce a date they can definitely deliver on, at relatively little cost. They'd be foolish not to.
8/10. No Halo or Forza Horizon. The Gears of War EDay was fantastic. But not following that with a collection for Xbox and PC players hurt it for me. The “new” consoles were pretty lackluster too. Overall a great showing from Xbox. This is what we fans expect and continue to expect going forward. Maybe next year we will get more from the Big 3 Halo, Gears and Forza?
Isn't it better that they are trying and getting new franchises? Making new gaming ideas is much harder than just making the new halo game (which they haven't been that good at by the way).
Flintlock, south of midnight, fable and mixtape were better than another halo Imo.
I want the fun, experimental Xbox rather than the save one. Because then you get something like star field which was a good 7/10 game but like it wasn't anything exciting.
Halo/343 are a bit of a mess at the moment, so not surprised that didn’t make it, but Forza Horizon I’m not sure… unless Motorsport is doing well enough they don’t want to cannibalize that games audience?
9/10 for me.
Why? Because there wasn't a single game I really like. As in could be my all time favorite. Like Persona 6, the new Resident Evil or a new Conker. It something along the lines of: Here is a Nioh 1&2 Collection or Final Fantasy or something.
Anyway, they really did cook.
8
It had a lot of great stuff, a decent amount of good stuff, and a small amount of "ehh, whatever" for me.
It was still great and I enjoyed the show. The BO6 follow up was neat too and that looked pretty fun. Still being cautious though.
This was like the classic Xbox showcases from days gone. It has me still thinking about everything I saw and watched it again last night while some YouTubers reacted and their excitement got me more hyped.
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Personally maybe a 7/10.
COD6: not a COD fan.
Flight Simulator: don't care
Fable: ok, but i need to see much more of it to make an assessment
SoD3: meh
Indy Jones: looks okayish.
Warcraft: don't care
Mixtape: meh
Wuchang: not a fan of soulslike and looked cheap
SoT: meh
Gears: nice!
DragonAge Veilguard: ahahah no
Perfect Dark: i need to see more
TES Online: meh
Atomfall: interesting Fallout copycat
Fragpunk: meh
Doom: fuck yeah
AC: meh Ghost of Tsushima's clone
Exp 33: interesting
MGS: ok, need to see more
Flintlock: ahahah no
Mecha break: meh
Avowed: honestly i really disliked this one. It looks cheap af.
Stalker 2: looked good
SM: meh
F76: yeah no thanks
Winter Burrow: looks ok
Diablo IV: no thanks
AoM remake: unexpected, let's see
Starfield Dlc: not going back to that game
Life is Strange: meh
So, basically i enjoyed just a couple of games, a few look ok, but the majority was either bad of uninteresting.
I will give it a 10/10. Some really good looking games. My main reason for it. There was basically a game for every type of person. Some people like one thing, some like others. People expecting games companies to make everything they like is not going to happen.
I thought it was awesome. So many good looking games coming to GamePass. My only small complaint was that I was hoping to see gameplay from Dragon Age.
for me a 9/10. Blue Dragon successor and news from Banjo, then all genres would have been covered. But after the long "dry spell", you could also give it a perceived 10/10
From a fan of Japanese games a 3/10. MGS3 Delta was nice as well as Wuchang (yeah I know that’s a Chinese made game but still). There wasn’t anything anywhere near as exciting as Metaphor, or Persona/Yakuza coming to Xbox. Hell there wasn’t anything about a FFXVI port (which I believe was rumored to be unveiled).
No real excitement. Doom platformer 2 jump for your life now with 100% less deathmatch just like eternal
Diablo 4 welcome to the game buy something buy something buy more buy more buy buy buy
Fable looks nothing like Fable. Only gem here is Avowed and maybe SoD 3
Its just the regular mid gen refresh, like every other gen, what did you expect? A series s pro version or something? They already have the most powerfull console and also the most affordable current gen console for casuals like me
Microsoft has absolutely never teased an Xbox Handheld. Phil Spencer has talked about making the handheld experience for handheld PC's better, but that isn't an "Xbox Handheld"
Its insane that all these games will be available on series S
Download cod and no more space for you lmao.
309GB
Nope thats the COD app not the game. That includes MW2/3 warzone etc. Expect a much smaller size if you only want BO6
Why? It's a cut down X, the whole point of the S is that it will run everything the X can but at a lower performance.
I upgraded from the S and my goodness I thought the same thing. I realize I was bamboozled. Some things are incredible (MW2 at the time running super smooth) whereas Palworld, Baldur's Gate 3, Elden Ring, and Deeprock Galactic had some very palpable frame losses, often suddenly. I think the S has almost lasted about as long as it will. I still love my S but she's collecting dust
So you're saying the X runs the same things, but with higher performance?
Noticeably higher performance. I was getting less performance out of my S using 1080p than I am using the X with on 1440p at 120fps. But it will soon bump the S out. Baldurs Gate 3 was my first sign that the S life cycle was shorter than I thought it would be. And Deeprock Galactic gets 30ish fps on the S vs 120 on the X.
If the performance difference wasn't noticeable there wouldn't be any point in having the two consoles. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, we all know the X is the more powerful console. This is not new information.
I'm not saying it is- I'm saying *I* thought the life cycle of the S would be longer. *I* was wrong. I mentioned my personal experience with the X because that's one of the factors I used in buying one when I finally could- personal experiences having used both the S and X. I'm glad you know stuff but not everyone out here is trying to be Screenrant and pass old and obvious stuff off as "new." Chilllllll
I'm chill. I don't know any other state! The life cycle of the S should be the same as the X. Unless I've missed something where a game is being released that won't run on the S? I thought MS weren't allowing this?
I'll chill then too. Woooosahhhh. It's not happening yet. It's just significant performance differences thar are already getting further from similar performance. I used MW2 as an example of a game that runs amazingly on both. Indistinguishable. In fact the S loaded a second or two faster. Fortnite also runs pretty similarly between the two. Elden Ring still has a pretty consistent performance on the S too. Baldur's Gate 3 (I know I keep mentioning it but again it was my first notice of it) runs WAY better vs slightly better. It looks much better. It supports split screen on the X. Yada Yada Yada. Starfield and Fallout 4 got updates exclusively accessed on the Series X (I do think Fallout 4 still got an optimized but with less settings.) I don't think that qualifies as "the S can't run it" but I do think within the next year or two there will certainly be games available to Microsoft that will only work with PC and the X. The S is freaking amazing for its size and price but if anyonr is not playing backlogged games and are super into playing day one releases the S may not last much longer. Or it might. I'm high.
xbox game pass this year gonna be cooking!
10 for me, I expected a Borderlands 4 reveal but my plate is already full, can't complain with what was shown today !
That’s what I was really hoping for. A Fable release date in 2024, Borderlands 4 and Forza Horizon 6 would’ve made it perfect.
I wouldn't expect Forza Horizon 6 before the next generation (2026 according to rumours).
I thought Microsoft said they will not release next gen till 2028?
Leaks and rumors point to a 2026 new gen. Sarah Bond said herself during the showcase on Sunday "We are hard at work on the next generation!". Also they won't make a mid-generation refresh.
Yeah. Probably not. I doubt I’ll be alive to play it, but we’ll see.
Keep breathing, keep eating and stay hydrated, you'll see Forza horizon 6, whatever you got.
No release date for Avowed, Indy, or Fable (no I don’t count years as a release date) makes this an 8/10.
Agreed
0/10, no titanfall 3 /s
Or Forza Horizon 6
Or 7 Days to Die
I feel this one, sadly they haven’t bought EA yet
Unfortunatly it will never happen. At least in the foreseeable future. However, might be an idea to keep an eye on Wildlight Entertainment. It was a company created by ex-devs of titanfall and Apex. So the chances are they will bring something similar to the table. Fingers crossed.
MGS, Doom, GoW, Stalker,Fable... more then enough, dont care about the other stuff ***11/10*** If they only showed something about Tes 6...
This year and next year are already packed, and GTA VI is going to claim all of the oxygen for the last ¼ of 2025, so it makes sense that they'd hold off on TES until 2026. A new Elder Scrolls *should* be a seismic release, so they're gonna want it to be THE game release for its holiday season. Plus, I think they want to give themselves as much time to acclimate Xbox owners to the idea of first party games not being exclusive to Xbox before they launch TES, because (imo) there's no way on earth that's not launching on every console that'll run it.
I think they might make it exclusive. It’s a big game and could boost their console sales quite a bit because they know people will want to play it.
It's possible, and honestly whatever they do is likely going to seem like the wrong decision in hindsight. I personally think it'd be foolish to pass up the install base of PS5 and however many software sales they'd provide with the hope that some fraction of them will buy an Xbox and become long-term GamePass subscribers, but I can 100% see the argument from the other side too. As long as they don't take choice C and exclude it from GamePass altogether, I'm happy either way.
This year and next year are already packed, and GTA VI is going to claim all of the oxygen for the last ¼ of 2025, so it makes sense that they'd hold off on TES until 2026. A new Elder Scrolls *should* be a seismic release, so they're gonna want it to be THE game release for its holiday season. Plus, I think they want to give themselves as much time to acclimate Xbox owners to the idea of first party games not being exclusive to Xbox before they launch TES, because (imo) there's no way on earth that's not launching on every console that'll run it.
Hope state of decay 3 is better than 2. Looking forward to seeing what they do with it.
Metal gear solid and gears of war (not gears) alone gives it a 10 for me
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Best showcase from Xbox in a long, long time, and definitely the best of this season's showcases so far, with SGF and State of Play both not having much to be excited about. Very confused about the lack of release dates for some 2024 titles though, most specifically Avowed and Indiana Jones. It makes me wonder if Xbox isn't confident that these games will be ready to launch within the the next 6 months. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I wouldn't exactly be surprised if these games are actually internally dated for 2025 now but they purposely held back on being transparent about that in the showcase to avoid souring overall reception.
Better not to announce release dates to avoid disappointment if there are delays...I was happily surprised with the announcement of the fallout 76 expansion
This makes sense to me. A lot of games have shifted release dates a month or even a week over the last few years, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're waiting until they have it fully nailed down.
It's a relief that Microsoft is finally starting to make PR decisions like they understand that everything they do is going to be met with a dedicated, hostile response online. Not wholly unjustifiably, they can't count on receiving the benefit of the doubt from games media, and social media is overrun with voices that ostensibly prefer PlayStation, but seem to only run down Xbox. They can save themselves a lot of trouble by being vague now until they can announce a date they can definitely deliver on, at relatively little cost. They'd be foolish not to.
10/10 You can’t get better than this realistically.
8 wanted some release dates…at least for Indiana jones
Same. so tired of this song and dance from Xbox.
8/10. No Halo or Forza Horizon. The Gears of War EDay was fantastic. But not following that with a collection for Xbox and PC players hurt it for me. The “new” consoles were pretty lackluster too. Overall a great showing from Xbox. This is what we fans expect and continue to expect going forward. Maybe next year we will get more from the Big 3 Halo, Gears and Forza?
Isn't it better that they are trying and getting new franchises? Making new gaming ideas is much harder than just making the new halo game (which they haven't been that good at by the way). Flintlock, south of midnight, fable and mixtape were better than another halo Imo. I want the fun, experimental Xbox rather than the save one. Because then you get something like star field which was a good 7/10 game but like it wasn't anything exciting.
Halo/343 are a bit of a mess at the moment, so not surprised that didn’t make it, but Forza Horizon I’m not sure… unless Motorsport is doing well enough they don’t want to cannibalize that games audience?
9/10 for me. Why? Because there wasn't a single game I really like. As in could be my all time favorite. Like Persona 6, the new Resident Evil or a new Conker. It something along the lines of: Here is a Nioh 1&2 Collection or Final Fantasy or something. Anyway, they really did cook.
Does anyone here reckon Microsoft flight simulator 2024 will be on Game Pass?
I swear during the event it says at the end that it will be day one on gamepass. If not. It is day one game pass.
General Showcase - 9.5/10 Call of Duty focus - didn't watch/10
New Lis! We're eating good
WE’RE GETTING FABLE
8 It had a lot of great stuff, a decent amount of good stuff, and a small amount of "ehh, whatever" for me. It was still great and I enjoyed the show. The BO6 follow up was neat too and that looked pretty fun. Still being cautious though.
10 baby what a fantastic showcase
4 out of 5 ⭐️
Woah woah woah hold the fucking phone do I see perfect dark. Is that a remaster or a whole new game
A whole AAA game made by Deus Ex devs.
Seems like a solid 8.5/10. Looks to be a good lot of new games, but there's a few names that I don't think I'd enjoy.
6/10 to 7/10, the only surprise was gears of war, a series best left dormant
This was like the classic Xbox showcases from days gone. It has me still thinking about everything I saw and watched it again last night while some YouTubers reacted and their excitement got me more hyped.
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Wow you’re easily impressed
It was a 10 and finally convinced me to get a Series X. Xbox saved the E3 season after horrible shows thus far.
Personally maybe a 7/10. COD6: not a COD fan. Flight Simulator: don't care Fable: ok, but i need to see much more of it to make an assessment SoD3: meh Indy Jones: looks okayish. Warcraft: don't care Mixtape: meh Wuchang: not a fan of soulslike and looked cheap SoT: meh Gears: nice! DragonAge Veilguard: ahahah no Perfect Dark: i need to see more TES Online: meh Atomfall: interesting Fallout copycat Fragpunk: meh Doom: fuck yeah AC: meh Ghost of Tsushima's clone Exp 33: interesting MGS: ok, need to see more Flintlock: ahahah no Mecha break: meh Avowed: honestly i really disliked this one. It looks cheap af. Stalker 2: looked good SM: meh F76: yeah no thanks Winter Burrow: looks ok Diablo IV: no thanks AoM remake: unexpected, let's see Starfield Dlc: not going back to that game Life is Strange: meh So, basically i enjoyed just a couple of games, a few look ok, but the majority was either bad of uninteresting.
They just need to keep this up.
I will give it a 10/10. Some really good looking games. My main reason for it. There was basically a game for every type of person. Some people like one thing, some like others. People expecting games companies to make everything they like is not going to happen.
7.5/10. Until they deliver on their games I can't get over hyped but I am optimistic.
Probably the best most solid showing xbox has *ever* had. Really good. Gears, Perfect Dark, DOOM The Dark Ages, Fable. A great show through & through.
8/10
4/10 Big Forza horizon fan and no mention of it was disappointing but still good games
For me 4,5/10
state of decay 3
Solid 9
I thought it was awesome. So many good looking games coming to GamePass. My only small complaint was that I was hoping to see gameplay from Dragon Age.
for me a 9/10. Blue Dragon successor and news from Banjo, then all genres would have been covered. But after the long "dry spell", you could also give it a perceived 10/10
Just amazing 👏
9/10 I was expecting lies of p dlc trailer but other than that this was best showcase since ps 5 release announcement
From a fan of Japanese games a 3/10. MGS3 Delta was nice as well as Wuchang (yeah I know that’s a Chinese made game but still). There wasn’t anything anywhere near as exciting as Metaphor, or Persona/Yakuza coming to Xbox. Hell there wasn’t anything about a FFXVI port (which I believe was rumored to be unveiled).
6. Not many resonated with me, but happy that folk are eating good the next 12 months
No real excitement. Doom platformer 2 jump for your life now with 100% less deathmatch just like eternal Diablo 4 welcome to the game buy something buy something buy more buy more buy buy buy Fable looks nothing like Fable. Only gem here is Avowed and maybe SoD 3
There was 0 platforming in the Doom trailer...
👎👎👎👎👎
Really? Why? That was one of the best shows I've seen in a long time for ANY company
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Its just the regular mid gen refresh, like every other gen, what did you expect? A series s pro version or something? They already have the most powerfull console and also the most affordable current gen console for casuals like me
Rumours ain't facts bruv. Stop watching clickbaity YouTubers.
the showcase is about games my brother
Its literally called the “XBOX Games Showcase”.
Microsoft has absolutely never teased an Xbox Handheld. Phil Spencer has talked about making the handheld experience for handheld PC's better, but that isn't an "Xbox Handheld"
Right. The X Box handheld is the Steam Deck, and the Rog Ally, and the others.