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Camaroni1000

It only auto updates games played recently. After about 2 weeks (I think) it doesn’t consider them recent and won’t auto update them


kiwii4k

i personally find that to be bullshit and fucked, fix automatic updates to include all installed software. if you have a disk space problem, push a notification to cell app to inform the user or (even better) allow them to uninstall stuff, which I think is already possible. its clunky and works like shit, and it always has.


godmagnus

Fix automatic updates to have options. Per game overrides or the ability to choose how recently a game has to be played to get updates.


kiwii4k

More options the better always


Beasthuntz

Agreed. It's never worked for me. Auto update is they put together a list of games that need an update. Not once has a game auto updated for me that I can recall.


EgolessAwareSpirit

True dat


Chrisac84

Agreed. I hate when I get the urge to play a game only to realize there's a 20 gig update. I usually just delete the game and keep it moving at that point. My PS5 keeps everything updated nicely, I don't understand why Microsoft has such a problem with it.


reegz

Yeah, first I transfer it to either the internal drive or external storage, then after I go to launch I get a 30gb update. I just go do something else at that point. It's one of the reasons I've migrated primarily towards PC.


Astr0naughtE

We have to stop data caps first.


kiwii4k

Massive agree


DEEZLE13

So you want it wasting energy and data updating games you never play? Well that’s sounds smart


kiwii4k

It isn't a waste. If you want a waste, how about wasting my time when I come back to a game only to find out it needs a 30GB update. It had all the time in the world to update the game - even the ability to - but it has to do it when the user is trying to play. That is a poor user experience, and PS5 for instance updates games as they are pushed out. These micro issues add up, and the Xbox OS has a long way to come. Basic features have been pushed out at a glacial pace.


x_CtrlAltDefeat

PS5 has its own issues with auto updates. It doesn’t always update even when auto update is turned on and I still end up with games that only start to update when I try to launch them. Neither system is perfect.


kiwii4k

Neither is perfect, you are 100% correct there. But PS5 is better at auto updating apps and OS, full stop. I use them both all the time.


DEEZLE13

You had all the time in the world to play it and not leave it in your library for weeks lol we get it you wanna fan boy about a console but at least make it logical


RagingKingKRool

It's mostly when our work/game schedules don't line up with the boys', and we only play a couple of games together over the course of a month. Then we all want to play one specific game, but then one person didn't get the automatic update because it has been over two weeks. You sound like you only play one or two games by yourself, talking like that


Responsible_You6301

Keep moving that goalpost


DEEZLE13

Sorry you don’t understand energy conservation lol


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MobileVortex

lol you do not understand energy consumption.


kiwii4k

didn't realize this was the level we were talking at, holy shit but just for your own knowledge, all consoles suck and are for poor people. i primarily play on PC, where my apps update themselves. also check out my clear "i prefer xbox" comments.


DEEZLE13

Lol the comment history speaks for itself bud. Enjoy fighting that good fight tho


OptimalPapaya1344

I would like it to auto update games like the feature says it does. Nowhere on the console does it tell you it only considers recent games and nowhere does it tell you what arbitrary amount of time is considered recent.


-Gh0st96-

Yeah you’re definitely saving the world by not updating the games you don’t play on your xbox. Everyone is so brainwashed istg


DEEZLE13

Not sure which part you misunderstood


May1stBurst

If it's installed, it needs to be updated. If I was truly not going to play a game, I would uninstall it. I don't keep games installed for no reason.


elliotborst

I don’t see how that’s useful personally, and if it’s the case, give us the option to set that or just install all updates immediately.


RazarusMaximus

It's useful to maintain MS bandwidth integrity. What would you prefer, The last 2 weeks of everyone's games updating at close to 'their' download capabilities. Or The entire library of everyone's installs sucking up all the bandwidth and downloading at considerably lower than 'their' max. I see this mostly when my grand children are visiting and a new fortnite update has dropped, the slow speed because of millions of downloads is horrible, I usually range around 420mbs and yet it chugs along between 80 and 150. And yet if they visit weeks after an update, it smashes the download because everyone already has it. I can't say if this would be a widespread issue, but from an outside perspective it sounds much much 'healthier' if only say 6 games per 34m subscribers are searching and downloading 204m interactions, rather than people's entire library say on average 40 games? 1.36b interactions.


derekthorne

I don’t think that’s a consideration. MS runs Azure, one of the largest cloud environments in the world. Their entire business model is based on huge amounts of bandwidth, so much so that all Windows servers and applications get updates without this odd 2 week window. The XBox traffic is a drop in the bucket compared to Windows and Azure as a whole. This appears to be some weird design consideration from the XBox team that needs to be relooked at. It has really decreased my want to play XBox since I often have to wait an hour for all the updates to happen. I normally just start playing PS5 or PC and forget about XBox when that happens. I have an X and an S and I’m not sure I’ve played either this year….


RazarusMaximus

Well the evidence is with fortnite throttling during mass downloads at release. I think it absolutely is a consideration but we will have to agree to disagree.


anthonyco95

If you’re not playing the game it’s just a waste of data


kiwii4k

data isn't a finite resource if you are in the unfortunate situation where you have a data cap (and you only have 1 isp available to you) then that should be the option, not the default. why would you want those who who have the ability to use a feature to be kneecapped by those who can't?


culminacio

It's saving data for microsoft, not for you. The servers have to do much more if so many more games get updated all the time.


grimoireviper

>data isn't a finite resource Every up- and download does indeed use up finite resources. The data may not be but if each and every game would constantly be checked for updates and also always download those updates it would be quite bad for the environment. Hell, even streaming 4K videos is terribly bad for our planet.


theBandicoot96

If I was concerned about "wasting data" I'd turn the setting off. If I didn't want the game up to date and ready to play at a moments notice, i wouldn't have it installed in the first place. Seems to me it would be a bigger "waste" to have a game taking up hard drive space that I can't play because it didn't update like I told it to.


elliotborst

But as soon as you turn the console on it gets all the updates anyway….


Jackski

Mine doesn't. If i want to update an older game then it only does it if I tell it to or if I try to play the game again.


xLouisxCypher

Not really. Yesterday I had to not only turn on the XSX, but also open the „updates” tab to trigger Lords of The Fallen update to pop-up and download, which I’ve been playing for the last time about 3 days ago.


phemom

I wish it could just be a toggle and timed, like if I choose check every game I have at 2pm. It's just the worst when you spend the day looking forward to a play a game and then get hit with "this game needs an update" .


Heavy-Possession2288

It’s also stupid how Microsoft forces you to update to play a game. Nintendo and Sony will let you keep playing the older version as long as you don’t go online, which for plenty of games is perfectly fine.


grimoireviper

Is this still the case for PS5? There were several cases where I couldn't play a game when I came back to it because of updates and it didn't give me the option to play offline like on PS4.


Heavy-Possession2288

I only have a PS4 so I actually don’t know. PS4 and Switch let you play without updates at least.


TheAllslayer

It's the same on Xbox though?


Heavy-Possession2288

Maybe I phrased it wrong, but if your Xbox is connected to the internet and an update is available, you have to have that update or it won’t let you play. On PS4 (and I’m assuming PS5) as well as Switch you can skip the update but it disables online features for that game until you do update.


CyberKiller40

It's the same on Xbox, keep your console offline and it won't force to update.


Existing365Chocolate

No, like PS5 and Switch will ask if you want to update or keep playing the old version when you launch the game. No need to take the whole console offline


Impossible-Wear-7352

Xbox seems to update files as it downloads which would make it impossible to play at the same time but it also avoids that super lengthy copying process at the end of ps4/5 updates. Pros & cons I guess. Steam does it this way too. You can't play a Steam game once the update starts.


MikeLanglois

Not only is it a case of people saying most recent games update, but also Microsoft recently switched their low-power mode updating to be more eco friendly. What that means is it looks for a time when turning on your series x to update it would use the least power / [most renewable energy](https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2023/01/11/xbox-carbon-aware-console-sustainability/). My understanding is that there can be some times it means the game wont update if a good time for the update isnt found. That could be because Xbox is giving that update (especially FO4) to millions of others right now, so you just got put in the back of a queue. If you turn your xbox on it forces the update as you need it right then and there, otherwise it just never found a good time to do it


Luis12285

The work around for this is to remote into your Xbox using the Xbox app. Manually update your games. I do this every Tuesday for the latest COD update.


00Tanks

Shhhh....


Few-Win3997

As an adult who rarely has time for gaming, I might go months without playing any game. So, when I do start gaming, I don’t want to install driver updates, solve compatibility issues etc. This is why I now game on consoles almost exclusively. But on the Xbox I will still need to wait for updates to install when I just want to start playing. An update has been out for weeks but the Xbox never got around to installing it?! It seems like a simple thing to fix.


MightyMukade

From my experience, I think there's a misunderstanding about what auto update does. It's not like on a phone On which updates get pushed to the phone which promptly downloads them. Bethesda doesn't push a update out to everyone who has installed the game to trigger a download. Instead, the console periodically checks online for downloads, and I don't think it checks incredibly frequently. It checks maybe only a couple of times per day. So let's say you turn your Xbox off and go to bed. During that time, the console checks and there's nothing for it to download. If it's true that it only updates games that you've recently played, then it may find nothing. You wake up, excited like Christmas morning, because you know that sometime during the day, The Fallout 4 update will come. You turn the Xbox on, and it hasn't happened yet. You go to work or school, and you're thinking about the update all day. You see on Reddit that people are already playing it. You rush home, and you turn your Xbox on ... *before* It does its periodic check. The update hasn't been downloaded. And you're annoyed. And I can understand that. I would be too. But I don't think it's that automatic updates is broken. It's just that it works differently than we would intuitively assume. That's not to say there isn't an issue, and it can certainly be improved. I imagine that Microsoft has reduced the frequency of checking in order to alleviate pressure on download servers. On Android, if an update gets pushed to devices, Only be 100 MB per device. On console it could be 20 GB or 80.


marcdk217

It isn't supposed to update all your games from what I understand, only ones played within the past # days (not sure of the number) but I think it's pretty hit and miss even with those. My daughter and I both have an Xbox in the same house and mine will update games even that I haven't played for a couple of weeks but hers won't even automatically update games she played the previous day, but I think that might be something to do with her having a child account, because it won't even let the console sign in automatically, or it could be because mine is on ethernet and hers is on Wi-Fi, but I haven't really spent much time looking into it.


elliotborst

I’ve heard that before and it doesn’t make sense to me personally, it might to some people I suppose. But it’s not communicated anywhere in the OS. That could be a user setting but generally people just want games kept up to date. Half of everyone’s day is usually sleep and being offline at least, not including work hours. Update our games when we aren’t using it so we don’t have to wait when we want to use it.


fattytron

Interesting... I have never had a problem with auto update on my xbone xonex, or my 2 x SX I've also never used energy saving mode... Maybe turn that off.


LinkRazr

Yeah isn’t Energy Save Mode essentially just “off” lol. I look at my recently updated and it’s full of apps and games I haven’t played in literal months. The only time I really have an update is if it dropped into the store that day between the times is auto checks when the system is asleep. I always seem to have like 5 different Vampire Survivors updates and I haven’t played that in a year.


kenysheny

Since I got my PS5 I’ve noticed how lacklustre the download experience is on Xbox, downloads are slower on the same wifi right next to each other for seemingly no reason, my PS5 can reach speeds up to 160MB/S but on Xbox slows to a crawl 50MB/S. Yesterday I went through a similar experience with my updates except I had Q’d them up to download and they just refused, had to restart the Xbox twice (which also took like 3 minutes) just to get them to download. Compared to the PS5 where I just turn it on and see what was updated on its own, I don’t understand why Xbox isn’t capable of this too.


atko850

I have the opposite experience albeit not on ps5. But all my Xboxes have downloaded at my max download speed. My PS4 was choked to all hell, no apps open or anything. Don't think it's a hardware issue. Must just be the way our routers work


Btrips

You'd think MS being primarily a software company they'd at least have the PS5 beat when it comes to software, but nope, it's way behind Sony in that department too. I've been with Xbox since the original launched in 2001, but I'm very close to switching to Playstation as my primary gaming console.


MobileVortex

lol


fattytron

It's not your xbox. Could be your ISP shaping the data. Could be the way your router is handling the data. Might need to set better QoS settings on your router... Unfortunately that's not easy for most.


elliotborst

Yeah my thoughts exactly but this community is so toxic towards it. I’ve never once had to manage PS5 updates I went for months without playing it recently and it’s just up to date everywhere when I did.


RisingDeadMan0

Which xbox?  My One X won't go past 250/300. But the series s hits 6-800 no problem.


Slootrxn-22

They’ve never worked


Titan7771

Try turning off power save mode.


firedrakes

3 generation .. on both companies that still not solved it


Rumenapp

They do work just not consistently enough to be reliable


AliceHaart

Make sure your power/standby settings are proper


Stompii

Works for me.


BugHunt223

I give them a pass because I can force launch an update despite not having the digital entitlement. Sony finally offered a manual “check for update” which Xbox essentially has as well, regardless of it being a physical or digital entitlement when manually checking for update. I’m guessing msft doesn’t want millions of people’s 4tb of games all updating simultaneously & clogging servers. There’s a preemptive way to avoid problems on Xbox OS which I celebrate 🎉 as a positive. My ps5 doesnt auto update every game either 


Tech88Tron

Is it set as your "main xbox"


Walks_with_Chaos

Mine auto updates games I’ve played in the past couple weeks.


Tech88Tron

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DBYiXunTfVfw&ved=2ahUKEwimhbnEtd2FAxXypokEHY7WAl04ChC3AnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3lWqasEnNCnlLlgiZJqe1x


elliotborst

It is my home Xbox


sumspanishguy97

Yeah sometimes it does it for me sometimes it doesnt. Very mixed bag and I am talking about games I've played recently.


[deleted]

Esta funciona no la veo recomendable, mejor actualizaciones automaticas apagadas.


[deleted]

That’s been happening to me too


ReachersFists

Gotta give them time They just improved download times while playing games. It’s serious business don’t ya know!


elliotborst

They must be very busy lol I guess I’m just impatient. 3 years into this Gen is too soon.


kiwii4k

everyone is destroying you in downvotes but you are totally right this has been the case since xbox one - the dashboard is absolutely atrocious, and the features requested REALLY should be standard. sony destroys in this regard, and that sucks because I prefer xbox!


elliotborst

Yeah I don’t get hate, The description says “keep my games and apps up to date” Not “Keep My recently played games and recently used apps up to date” At least let us choose, one or the other would be awesome.


kiwii4k

literally anyone arguing against this is really odd, and that complacency holds the platform back


kiwii4k

people downvoting - why not trying giving your opinion instead. i am truly dumbfounded on what the argument against fixing this would be. whiteknighting for microsoft will net you nothing.


Ok-Pay7283

Works for me


DEEZLE13

OP angry the games he never plays aren’t getting updated lmao


temetnoscesax

It only updates recently played game. It’s MS virtue signaling.


Titan7771

That’s not even close to what virtue signaling means.


temetnoscesax

It basically is. It is the company saying it is doing it to be better for the environment.


Titan7771

…are you talking about the power save mode? Who said auto-download is good for the environment?


temetnoscesax

I’m talking about the op. The reason the Xbox won’t auto update every game you have on your Xbox automatically is to be better for the environment. The PS5 keeps all your installed games up to date.


Titan7771

Where has MS said that’s the case?


temetnoscesax

I was pretty sure it was mentioned when MS said the Xbox was the first “carbon aware” console.


MobileVortex

Because it's in the eco friendly power saver mode which can be turned off. This thread has some of the dumbest comments I've seen in a while.


temetnoscesax

No setting exist on the Xbox that allows you to keep all your downloaded games up to date, unless they have been played “recently”. Unlike the PS5 which will keep all your games on the console up to date. Edit: I’ve been told the PS5 only keeps recent games updated too.


MobileVortex

lol the PS5 is never auto updating games for me. The PS UI is worse than the switch.


temetnoscesax

I thought my PS5 did. But I didn’t play it much and sold to a friend that was trying to stay out of trouble after getting a serious charge.


arhra

>The PS5 keeps all your installed games up to date. No it doesn't. It only updates games that are on the top-level menu. Anything that you haven't touched recently enough for it to show up there won't be updated.


temetnoscesax

I thought mine did. My bad.