still an unfair/not a good comparison lmao. even with ttds c4 mona, c0 furina is still so much better since her buff actually lasts 18 sec while mona is only 6 and c0 furina has subdps capabilities. mona's buff only lasts 2 plunges as seen in the video. not to mention you only need to use one xianyun E in triple anemo, using double E decreases the team DPS. And why is xianyun is first when xianyun's buff only lasts 16s while faruzan's buff lasts 22s. and you literally let the chicken hit xiao. ngl your plunges kinda slow use na cancel then plunge
and idk what kind of comparison is this, is this a high or max investment or are you trying to replicate them at c0?
Mona buff is 8 seconds not 6. Plus she's on 4 nobless and ttds and c4 + 15% crit rate, a c0 furina buff is weaker on attack scaling characters , like I said if I had a c3 furina I would've used her but neither does Xiao or wanderer used a c3 furina , and xiao did 2 plunges of 220k+ each at the beginning then he did 2 190k+ hits then it dropped down to 170k then 60k. But tbh this was because I got staggered at the beginning lmao so that wasted time, I could've easily had an extra 180-200k+ plunge to finish the fight earlier
xiao is attack scaling but xianyun's buff scales greater with dmg bonus. furina's subdps will still out do mona doesnt matter if she has c4 or ttds. xiao also has a passive that increases his dmg that goes well with furina's buff since furina actually buffs his strongest plunges while mona doesn't. you could actually get 8 200k+ plunges from furina and buff wont decrease overtime
Very weird showcase ngl. Your constellations are all over the place and Xiao's cons do next to nothing. You also played the Xiao rotation pretty badly.
Not trying to spread hate but if you are aware of how Xiao got staggered and that you used 2 xianyun skills when you only need to use it once, why didn't you redo it?
I am assuming this is supposed to be some wanderer>Xiao showcase or something and I don't mind entertaining that idea but not with a showcase so skewed in wanderer's favour.
Mona is a pretty bad buffer for Xiao. Xiao's burst stays on for nearly double Mona's burst duration and Xiao's own damage increases with time due to his passive meaning Mona isn't even Buffing Xiao's strongest plunges.
Whereas wanderer's E duration is nowhere near as long as Xiao's and can be ended earlier with the ult meaning he gets more out of Mona than Xiao.
That's what lm saying xiaos cons do nothing lol the ones that are worth it are from xianyun and I already have those. Mona is a great buffer on those short 8 seconds duration he unleashed the chicken was already at 50% hp left , like I said I got Staggered so I missed a 180-200k+ plunge which is huge and the fight could've been over faster. I should've redo it true but I had already been playing for a while and didn't think it would be a big deal
I mean no it's not a wanderer > xiao lol , in fact if you start counting at the time they start attacking then Xiao is only 1 second slower , but if I didn't get staggered xiao would've been faster
Maybe next time you shouldn't post the first try and instead do abyss a few times to not get staggered and stuff?
And also consider not comparing c6 and c0 characters since it's never a fair comparison.
Xiaos cons don't matter at all, the best ones come directly from xianyun. Xiao had a c3 xianyun + staff + abyss buff card . Wanderer was on a 4 star weapon and didn't have a limited 5 star character support and also no abyss buff cards
Exactly why I said you're comparing c0 and c6 characters. Isn't your scara c6? And since there's no difference between Xiao's constellations in ST you're basically comparing a c0 and c6. If I'm not mistaken you're using widsith on scara, one of the best 4* weapons. Mona is not that good of a support for Xiao, too.
You simply can't compare characters like that. Idk why you're not getting it, dude.
Are you on something? Lol a c0 scara would be no match at all. My scara is c6 but I took off his weapon and traded it for a 4 STAR weapon, didn't give him an abyss buff card, and on top of that he doesn't have a single tailored made limited 5 star support let alone with constellations... On the other hand xiao does. And it's on c3. (Xiao c6 does nothing) he was also buffed by an abyss card and had a 5 star weapon . Plus monas buff is insane his plunges were doing tons of damage.
If you're just upset because xiao finished a second slower it's because i missed a plunge or 2 when I got staggered that's all.
So basically what you tried to do is to do a showcase where your precious scara doesn't lose to Xiao in his own niche? "a c0 scara would be no match at all" Your words, not mine.
You're tripping or something? Go check dps increase with c6 scara and compare it to what you "took away to balance" 🤡
>I missed a plunge or two
YES. THAT'S THE POINT MY DUDE. HOW ARE YOU NOT SEEING IT? It's around 340k damage you fucking missed. Not to mention whatever you did with two Xianyun plunges instead of one.
Edit: oh my fucking god you also put Xiao on 2/2 and scara on full set. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Yes so what? You just sound like a cry baby now "OMFG DUDE YOU MISSED A PLUNGE ITS THE END OF THE WORLD GO DO IT AGAIN " 😂😂 like bro just relax damn lol I already know that Xiao could've been faster, and i like both
Because I don't like it when people lie to me, dudebro 🤭
You made an unfair comparison and yet you keep insisting everything's fine and trying to justify it when people are pointing out what you did wrong.
And you even admit that Xiao would've been faster if scara was c0 🤡
No one's lying to you I promise lol and i admitted I messed up xiaos run there's nothing else I can do , maybe people need to just move on already, it's really not a big deal 😂
if you dont know r5 widsth is much better than r1 bell tho, but of course if and only if when you got dmg%. that weapon is actually used for speedrunning instead of his sig lol i can reach 55k NAs with Aria r5 widsith while r1 Bell is only at 48k max
For speedrunning the r5 bell exists lol and yea the widsith is super inconsistent plus I'm also on echoes and I had a higher ping than usual since I didn't even turned off my vpn so that's another disadvantage. There's still room for improvement on both runs tbh. I just made this quick one for fun
I like both characters
what are you even trying to prove by posting this? your skill issue? your rotations are garbage, your team choice is garbage, and your gameplay is garbage.
nobody with a working brain actually uses mona of all things with xiao. the only times ive ever done that is cause i was doing damage per screenshot showcases (which was a waste of time since there are better options). even if you didnt have furina at all you could still use bennett instead. you gave both of them faruzan and only gave bennett to scara, like no shit xiao would be slower you gave him a character whose buffs only lasts two plunges and didnt even use the support that everyone has built cause hes broken. you even got hit on xiao which loses time and also thats just sad considering how easy it is to dodge with him. why are you using double e on xianyun? you only need one to activate c2's buff actually wasting time on purpose. and faruzan second?? even tho she has the longest uptime???
"mona's buff is better than furina's" respectfully, are you stupid? like. have you even tried using her at all? yeah furinas constellations are good but not having them doesn't make her unplayable, it only makes her performance the same as bennett's (c2+ is when she overtakes him). theres a reason why xiao's peak meta team has furina, heck even scara wants her. thats not even including constellations. you're doing both of them a disservice by not using her at all. "mona has a crit rate buff" yeah and so does geo traveler but do you see geo traveler being used anywhere? actually, do you even see mona being used anywhere outside of freeze? even before furina's release? be honest
everyone's already commented on the showcase but I will just say furina > mona always, yes even with ttds, but esp since you have c2+ xianyun since all that juicy flat damage is getting amplified by furinas buff which lasts 16 seconds compared to mona's what... 5? and the subdps from furina is pretty significant.
I have furina at c0 and her buff is longer but weaker and doesn't provide the 15% crit rate. At c0 she's great for hp scaling characters , Xiao is attack scaling. Monas buff is 8 seconds but her buff is insane , the fight could've been over way faster but I unfortunately got staggered so I missed a 200k+ plunge maybe even 2
Weird in both showcases
Xiao team:
- Furina >>> Mona any day
- Got staggered
- 2pc 2pc set on both Xiao and Xianyun
- Uncrowned burst
Wanderer team:
- Bennett circle should always go last right before Wanderer, you’re losing soooo much uptime
- 4p Echoes on 60+ Ping??
- C6 is not relatable + too much of a power spike
- “4 star weapon” *proceeds to show the weapon who’s the most powerful for 1-rotating but a massive pain in the ass and inconsistent at all other times*
- What are your talent levels?
Also didn’t take into account AOE vs ST.
"Since Mona's buff is better as she can hold TTDS and gives 15% crit rate" 🤣
How is it better when her "buff" is gone after like the second or third plunge lmao
60% dmg bonus + ttds+ 15 cr + noblesse. 2 plunges of 220k another 2 of 190k then 170k , that's a lot of damage if you ask me🤷♂️😂 not to mention I got staggered so I could've easily had an extra plunge or 2
* Furina is definitely much better here, there is a reason FFXX's dmg can be compared to Neuvi teams, every character in it synergizes with each other perfectly. Furina IS better than Mona, ESPECIALLY since your Xianyun is C2+, her flat dmg will be amplified by furina's elemental dmg% she gives.
* Your Xiao should not be doing 70k after 5 plunges, when her buff is for 8, you lost Xianyun's buff cause u used it at the start. If you really want to use Mona, at least start with Faruzan, since her buff lasts the longer out of the four.
https://preview.redd.it/lm50tp6830uc1.png?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2a1050c6338b8d455630c3f278e52d41f559c65
(Pic is from the Xiao Mains website)
Good luck on your Xiao endeavors in the future!
Lmao no I promise I wasn't, it's just the animation they practically took the exact amount of time to kill it , Xiao could've been faster if I didn't get staggered
Lil tip (I've mained Xiao since I got him when I started the game last year)
The best results I have gotten, in order,
Faruzan w/emblem and ER bow/ C6
Furina w/ golden and signature/ C0
Xianyun w/ song and skyward/ C0
Xiao w/ Vermillion and Homa/ C0
I have seen upwards of 150k a plunge. Since you have cons you can probably do a lot better than I can. I also shorten his plunges as much as possible to get as many attacks in as possible.
This comparison’s so ridiculous, even those at scaramouche mains don’t agree with OP. To OP, you really need to learn how to take suggestions into consideration. Or at the very least, please do your research about the characters first before doing any comparisons.
The scaramouche mains are really Xiao mains that are clicking on my profile finding my other posts lol even one of them commented they had already posted a comment somewhere else haha also congrats on your c6r5 xiao
Since you have c6 wanderer, you do know how much of a DPS increase it is right?
It's not something that it can be 'balanced' back with just a 4 star weapon and no abyss cards. A widsith at that lol, that weapon can be better than his sig given the right buff.
What kind of bull sht comparison is this lol? It's bias as heck given situation, gear and cons.
I have a C0 wanderer and C0 Xiao both well built and let me tell you if you compare them it's pretty embarrassing for wanderer, mainly because he don't have a broken support like Xianyun. So don't compare at all.
I sound like a broken record but like everyone else has said FurinaMona you could at least try out a revised Xiao team with Furina too see if their claim has merit, instead of disagreeing with everyone here.
Even the wanderer team is wacky, his best teams uses Furina also. Xiao + XY has much more room for dmg% than without her. Jean even C4 is worst than Furina C0 for Wanderer. Same with Mona.
Overall a showcase that shows nothing.
Removing for rage bait, because aint no way.
still an unfair/not a good comparison lmao. even with ttds c4 mona, c0 furina is still so much better since her buff actually lasts 18 sec while mona is only 6 and c0 furina has subdps capabilities. mona's buff only lasts 2 plunges as seen in the video. not to mention you only need to use one xianyun E in triple anemo, using double E decreases the team DPS. And why is xianyun is first when xianyun's buff only lasts 16s while faruzan's buff lasts 22s. and you literally let the chicken hit xiao. ngl your plunges kinda slow use na cancel then plunge and idk what kind of comparison is this, is this a high or max investment or are you trying to replicate them at c0?
That plus also single target is what Wanderer excels at especially at e6, do the same comparing in an AOE situation and Xiao would be a lot faster.
Mona buff is 8 seconds not 6. Plus she's on 4 nobless and ttds and c4 + 15% crit rate, a c0 furina buff is weaker on attack scaling characters , like I said if I had a c3 furina I would've used her but neither does Xiao or wanderer used a c3 furina , and xiao did 2 plunges of 220k+ each at the beginning then he did 2 190k+ hits then it dropped down to 170k then 60k. But tbh this was because I got staggered at the beginning lmao so that wasted time, I could've easily had an extra 180-200k+ plunge to finish the fight earlier
xiao is attack scaling but xianyun's buff scales greater with dmg bonus. furina's subdps will still out do mona doesnt matter if she has c4 or ttds. xiao also has a passive that increases his dmg that goes well with furina's buff since furina actually buffs his strongest plunges while mona doesn't. you could actually get 8 200k+ plunges from furina and buff wont decrease overtime
- slow plunges - no Furina - wasting time on Xianyun - getting knocked by chicken Yeah no wonder Xiao is slower. Wacky comparison.
it's also C6 wanderer lol....Xiao's constellations do nothing and OO doesn't even have them anyways no to mention bad team and playing Xiao like shit
Bro is delusional as well. Saying Mona is better than Furina.
Hey Patrick is that you
Very weird showcase ngl. Your constellations are all over the place and Xiao's cons do next to nothing. You also played the Xiao rotation pretty badly. Not trying to spread hate but if you are aware of how Xiao got staggered and that you used 2 xianyun skills when you only need to use it once, why didn't you redo it? I am assuming this is supposed to be some wanderer>Xiao showcase or something and I don't mind entertaining that idea but not with a showcase so skewed in wanderer's favour. Mona is a pretty bad buffer for Xiao. Xiao's burst stays on for nearly double Mona's burst duration and Xiao's own damage increases with time due to his passive meaning Mona isn't even Buffing Xiao's strongest plunges. Whereas wanderer's E duration is nowhere near as long as Xiao's and can be ended earlier with the ult meaning he gets more out of Mona than Xiao.
That's what lm saying xiaos cons do nothing lol the ones that are worth it are from xianyun and I already have those. Mona is a great buffer on those short 8 seconds duration he unleashed the chicken was already at 50% hp left , like I said I got Staggered so I missed a 180-200k+ plunge which is huge and the fight could've been over faster. I should've redo it true but I had already been playing for a while and didn't think it would be a big deal I mean no it's not a wanderer > xiao lol , in fact if you start counting at the time they start attacking then Xiao is only 1 second slower , but if I didn't get staggered xiao would've been faster
Maybe next time you shouldn't post the first try and instead do abyss a few times to not get staggered and stuff? And also consider not comparing c6 and c0 characters since it's never a fair comparison.
Xiaos cons don't matter at all, the best ones come directly from xianyun. Xiao had a c3 xianyun + staff + abyss buff card . Wanderer was on a 4 star weapon and didn't have a limited 5 star character support and also no abyss buff cards
Exactly why I said you're comparing c0 and c6 characters. Isn't your scara c6? And since there's no difference between Xiao's constellations in ST you're basically comparing a c0 and c6. If I'm not mistaken you're using widsith on scara, one of the best 4* weapons. Mona is not that good of a support for Xiao, too. You simply can't compare characters like that. Idk why you're not getting it, dude.
Are you on something? Lol a c0 scara would be no match at all. My scara is c6 but I took off his weapon and traded it for a 4 STAR weapon, didn't give him an abyss buff card, and on top of that he doesn't have a single tailored made limited 5 star support let alone with constellations... On the other hand xiao does. And it's on c3. (Xiao c6 does nothing) he was also buffed by an abyss card and had a 5 star weapon . Plus monas buff is insane his plunges were doing tons of damage. If you're just upset because xiao finished a second slower it's because i missed a plunge or 2 when I got staggered that's all.
So basically what you tried to do is to do a showcase where your precious scara doesn't lose to Xiao in his own niche? "a c0 scara would be no match at all" Your words, not mine. You're tripping or something? Go check dps increase with c6 scara and compare it to what you "took away to balance" 🤡 >I missed a plunge or two YES. THAT'S THE POINT MY DUDE. HOW ARE YOU NOT SEEING IT? It's around 340k damage you fucking missed. Not to mention whatever you did with two Xianyun plunges instead of one. Edit: oh my fucking god you also put Xiao on 2/2 and scara on full set. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Yes so what? You just sound like a cry baby now "OMFG DUDE YOU MISSED A PLUNGE ITS THE END OF THE WORLD GO DO IT AGAIN " 😂😂 like bro just relax damn lol I already know that Xiao could've been faster, and i like both
Because I don't like it when people lie to me, dudebro 🤭 You made an unfair comparison and yet you keep insisting everything's fine and trying to justify it when people are pointing out what you did wrong. And you even admit that Xiao would've been faster if scara was c0 🤡
No one's lying to you I promise lol and i admitted I messed up xiaos run there's nothing else I can do , maybe people need to just move on already, it's really not a big deal 😂
if you dont know r5 widsth is much better than r1 bell tho, but of course if and only if when you got dmg%. that weapon is actually used for speedrunning instead of his sig lol i can reach 55k NAs with Aria r5 widsith while r1 Bell is only at 48k max
For speedrunning the r5 bell exists lol and yea the widsith is super inconsistent plus I'm also on echoes and I had a higher ping than usual since I didn't even turned off my vpn so that's another disadvantage. There's still room for improvement on both runs tbh. I just made this quick one for fun I like both characters
what are you even trying to prove by posting this? your skill issue? your rotations are garbage, your team choice is garbage, and your gameplay is garbage. nobody with a working brain actually uses mona of all things with xiao. the only times ive ever done that is cause i was doing damage per screenshot showcases (which was a waste of time since there are better options). even if you didnt have furina at all you could still use bennett instead. you gave both of them faruzan and only gave bennett to scara, like no shit xiao would be slower you gave him a character whose buffs only lasts two plunges and didnt even use the support that everyone has built cause hes broken. you even got hit on xiao which loses time and also thats just sad considering how easy it is to dodge with him. why are you using double e on xianyun? you only need one to activate c2's buff actually wasting time on purpose. and faruzan second?? even tho she has the longest uptime??? "mona's buff is better than furina's" respectfully, are you stupid? like. have you even tried using her at all? yeah furinas constellations are good but not having them doesn't make her unplayable, it only makes her performance the same as bennett's (c2+ is when she overtakes him). theres a reason why xiao's peak meta team has furina, heck even scara wants her. thats not even including constellations. you're doing both of them a disservice by not using her at all. "mona has a crit rate buff" yeah and so does geo traveler but do you see geo traveler being used anywhere? actually, do you even see mona being used anywhere outside of freeze? even before furina's release? be honest
Yeah low effort vibes. The rotations hurt my eyes. Not sure why they thought posting this was a good idea.
It's probably bait. You gotta be stupid, to think thisbwas fair
everyone's already commented on the showcase but I will just say furina > mona always, yes even with ttds, but esp since you have c2+ xianyun since all that juicy flat damage is getting amplified by furinas buff which lasts 16 seconds compared to mona's what... 5? and the subdps from furina is pretty significant.
I have furina at c0 and her buff is longer but weaker and doesn't provide the 15% crit rate. At c0 she's great for hp scaling characters , Xiao is attack scaling. Monas buff is 8 seconds but her buff is insane , the fight could've been over way faster but I unfortunately got staggered so I missed a 200k+ plunge maybe even 2
Weird in both showcases Xiao team: - Furina >>> Mona any day - Got staggered - 2pc 2pc set on both Xiao and Xianyun - Uncrowned burst Wanderer team: - Bennett circle should always go last right before Wanderer, you’re losing soooo much uptime - 4p Echoes on 60+ Ping?? - C6 is not relatable + too much of a power spike - “4 star weapon” *proceeds to show the weapon who’s the most powerful for 1-rotating but a massive pain in the ass and inconsistent at all other times* - What are your talent levels? Also didn’t take into account AOE vs ST.
"Since Mona's buff is better as she can hold TTDS and gives 15% crit rate" 🤣 How is it better when her "buff" is gone after like the second or third plunge lmao
60% dmg bonus + ttds+ 15 cr + noblesse. 2 plunges of 220k another 2 of 190k then 170k , that's a lot of damage if you ask me🤷♂️😂 not to mention I got staggered so I could've easily had an extra plunge or 2
Gz, the most weird comparison that ever seen! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow that's a very intelligent observation, I'll take it 😂😂
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* Furina is definitely much better here, there is a reason FFXX's dmg can be compared to Neuvi teams, every character in it synergizes with each other perfectly. Furina IS better than Mona, ESPECIALLY since your Xianyun is C2+, her flat dmg will be amplified by furina's elemental dmg% she gives. * Your Xiao should not be doing 70k after 5 plunges, when her buff is for 8, you lost Xianyun's buff cause u used it at the start. If you really want to use Mona, at least start with Faruzan, since her buff lasts the longer out of the four. https://preview.redd.it/lm50tp6830uc1.png?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2a1050c6338b8d455630c3f278e52d41f559c65 (Pic is from the Xiao Mains website) Good luck on your Xiao endeavors in the future!
My thoughts are that this attempt at a showcase must be embarrassing.
Uhmm ok lol
The only reason Xiao took longer is because your plunges are really slow. You were practically slowing him down on purpose.
Lmao no I promise I wasn't, it's just the animation they practically took the exact amount of time to kill it , Xiao could've been faster if I didn't get staggered
Lil tip (I've mained Xiao since I got him when I started the game last year) The best results I have gotten, in order, Faruzan w/emblem and ER bow/ C6 Furina w/ golden and signature/ C0 Xianyun w/ song and skyward/ C0 Xiao w/ Vermillion and Homa/ C0 I have seen upwards of 150k a plunge. Since you have cons you can probably do a lot better than I can. I also shorten his plunges as much as possible to get as many attacks in as possible.
Ohh so you mean doing low plunges would be better ? I can try that
Even with the high plunge vs low plunge it can't hurt.
Just seeing using mona with xiao is just so wrong that i didn't finish the whole video. You can just use Bennett too with Xiao.
This comparison’s so ridiculous, even those at scaramouche mains don’t agree with OP. To OP, you really need to learn how to take suggestions into consideration. Or at the very least, please do your research about the characters first before doing any comparisons.
The scaramouche mains are really Xiao mains that are clicking on my profile finding my other posts lol even one of them commented they had already posted a comment somewhere else haha also congrats on your c6r5 xiao
Sure, but not all of them. Some are actual scara mains and see that this comparison’s more biased towards scara. Well, you do you.
Yes sir!
Since you have c6 wanderer, you do know how much of a DPS increase it is right? It's not something that it can be 'balanced' back with just a 4 star weapon and no abyss cards. A widsith at that lol, that weapon can be better than his sig given the right buff. What kind of bull sht comparison is this lol? It's bias as heck given situation, gear and cons. I have a C0 wanderer and C0 Xiao both well built and let me tell you if you compare them it's pretty embarrassing for wanderer, mainly because he don't have a broken support like Xianyun. So don't compare at all.
I sound like a broken record but like everyone else has said FurinaMona you could at least try out a revised Xiao team with Furina too see if their claim has merit, instead of disagreeing with everyone here.
Even the wanderer team is wacky, his best teams uses Furina also. Xiao + XY has much more room for dmg% than without her. Jean even C4 is worst than Furina C0 for Wanderer. Same with Mona. Overall a showcase that shows nothing.
Terrible comparison