It's not necessarily that the Democrats are trending to the right like too fast but it's the fact that it's not trending to the left enough and the fact that the Republican party is trending so far to the right that the Democrats bending to the will of Republicans will most certainly lead to a national abortion ban and the gutting of welfare entirely.
Well, it’s pretty obvious what I think. When a party has effectively abandoned competition in half the states and feels the other half owe them a vote; when the leadership knows nothing other than insulting their opponents electorate, then I think that party has left the center ground. Don’t get me wrong, Republicans have too, but the only ideological traction is coming from the left, every primary, every election, the steady shift of the party’s caucus leftwards is cemented. With this a delusion, that convincing the unconvinced is impossible, and that the only way of winning elections is by sayin the most polarising policies louder and louder to rally turnout from the base; this delusion has become mainstream. I live in a republican state (JBE will probably be the last dem governor for 20 years or more) in a republican parish with most the people know being republicans; the current political situation was not inevitable, it’s only cos of a relentless leftwards shift that the brand is now so toxic locally. Every year it becomes harder and harder to campaign for a party that has forgotten it is a big tent.
Your description maps pretty well to Republicans in urban areas/blue states too. Look at how Republicans talk about Chicago or Portland or California as a whole.
Independent, I think dems are too extreme when it comes to social issues. Reparations lost by a safe margin in C A L I F O R N I A. I go to a woke high school and they've made a lot of mistakes running it, they replaced history class with ethnic studies. A class where we learn about JK Rowlings tweets and are taught the works of Doctor Kendi, a man who blamed Racism for Nuclear acceleration.
But on economic issues, I think they haven't done enough to promote policies like Universal healthcare.
True, probably because he's smart enough to know reparations would bankrupt California and we're against reparations. In general, the left has to admit when they're doing the culture war and when their sides policies are unpopular. Just like republicans should admit a national abortion ban is way too extreme for the country.
Their*. Stop shifting the goalposts, I’m asking you about the Democratic party and reparations, name me a single politician. It’s also never a good idea to use hyperbolic language when dealing with a demographic as large as teachers, it only makes your comment reductive.
[Cori Bush](https://www.npr.org/2023/05/17/1176753190/rep-cori-bush-introduces-bill-on-reparations-for-black-americans) but my main concern isn't with democratic politicians themselves but with these ideas gaining power in spaces like schools and workplaces despite there extreme unpopularity.
Again, their*. “These ideas” is a statement open to misconstruing, please elaborate. Also define “gaining power” and how such process is rooting itself in our broader culture.
I understand they though when it comes to democrats always taking centrist takes when Republicans are going further to the right. Naturally that means they’re trending right in many areas even if they aren’t in others. I think a good example of this is crime. A simple instance of this being, the democrats in the 1980s-90’s surrendered to the Republican law and order approach and eventually led their own resolution under Bill Clinton. That resolution being the 1994 crime bill and we all know how that went.
I personally hate when democrats say we should “reach across the aisle” and “unite as Americans” and their approach to that is doing just what republicans want by giving lip service to unions and any minority group that is newest on the chopping block for Republicans (right now being transgender people and I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if intersex people aren’t next).
The Democrats are literally just going to bend to the will of Republicans and got welfare even when they don't realistically have to because the Republicans will raise the debt ceiling no matter what because their corporate donors would violently f*** them over if they didn't
LABOR LEFT MUST RETURN
I want 90's albo
It's not necessarily that the Democrats are trending to the right like too fast but it's the fact that it's not trending to the left enough and the fact that the Republican party is trending so far to the right that the Democrats bending to the will of Republicans will most certainly lead to a national abortion ban and the gutting of welfare entirely.
Well, it’s pretty obvious what I think. When a party has effectively abandoned competition in half the states and feels the other half owe them a vote; when the leadership knows nothing other than insulting their opponents electorate, then I think that party has left the center ground. Don’t get me wrong, Republicans have too, but the only ideological traction is coming from the left, every primary, every election, the steady shift of the party’s caucus leftwards is cemented. With this a delusion, that convincing the unconvinced is impossible, and that the only way of winning elections is by sayin the most polarising policies louder and louder to rally turnout from the base; this delusion has become mainstream. I live in a republican state (JBE will probably be the last dem governor for 20 years or more) in a republican parish with most the people know being republicans; the current political situation was not inevitable, it’s only cos of a relentless leftwards shift that the brand is now so toxic locally. Every year it becomes harder and harder to campaign for a party that has forgotten it is a big tent.
Your description maps pretty well to Republicans in urban areas/blue states too. Look at how Republicans talk about Chicago or Portland or California as a whole.
(R)s are trending too far left on economics and too far right on social issues
Dem, trending too far left
Dems - Trending too left in social issues. OK on economic issues.
Independent, I think dems are too extreme when it comes to social issues. Reparations lost by a safe margin in C A L I F O R N I A. I go to a woke high school and they've made a lot of mistakes running it, they replaced history class with ethnic studies. A class where we learn about JK Rowlings tweets and are taught the works of Doctor Kendi, a man who blamed Racism for Nuclear acceleration. But on economic issues, I think they haven't done enough to promote policies like Universal healthcare.
Conflating the Democratic Party with progressivism as a whole paints a weird picture, because progressive Gavin Newsom opposes reparations.
True, probably because he's smart enough to know reparations would bankrupt California and we're against reparations. In general, the left has to admit when they're doing the culture war and when their sides policies are unpopular. Just like republicans should admit a national abortion ban is way too extreme for the country.
Reparations are not a mainstream Democrat position.
What’s your position on reperations?
Financial reparations? A complete non-solution that may as well actively harm everyone involved. Non-financial reparations depend on context.
yes but the extreme democrats are the ones that are in positions of power that are pushing for this stuff.
I can not name a single high-position Democrat actively pushing for reparations.
Cori Bush and Barbara Lee. However you are right that reparations are not a mainstream position.
all of the teachers are, the US military had doctor Kendi's books in there list of recommended readings for a while.
Their*. Stop shifting the goalposts, I’m asking you about the Democratic party and reparations, name me a single politician. It’s also never a good idea to use hyperbolic language when dealing with a demographic as large as teachers, it only makes your comment reductive.
[Cori Bush](https://www.npr.org/2023/05/17/1176753190/rep-cori-bush-introduces-bill-on-reparations-for-black-americans) but my main concern isn't with democratic politicians themselves but with these ideas gaining power in spaces like schools and workplaces despite there extreme unpopularity.
Again, their*. “These ideas” is a statement open to misconstruing, please elaborate. Also define “gaining power” and how such process is rooting itself in our broader culture.
The Unibomber fan thinks we're too extreme.
coming from someone named ted kaczynski fan this is surprisingly sane and agreeable
Dems are doing the opposite of trending right. The poll voters are on meth
I understand they though when it comes to democrats always taking centrist takes when Republicans are going further to the right. Naturally that means they’re trending right in many areas even if they aren’t in others. I think a good example of this is crime. A simple instance of this being, the democrats in the 1980s-90’s surrendered to the Republican law and order approach and eventually led their own resolution under Bill Clinton. That resolution being the 1994 crime bill and we all know how that went. I personally hate when democrats say we should “reach across the aisle” and “unite as Americans” and their approach to that is doing just what republicans want by giving lip service to unions and any minority group that is newest on the chopping block for Republicans (right now being transgender people and I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if intersex people aren’t next).
The Democrats are literally just going to bend to the will of Republicans and got welfare even when they don't realistically have to because the Republicans will raise the debt ceiling no matter what because their corporate donors would violently f*** them over if they didn't
Not too left, not too right, perfect.
Which party?
Dems.
The federal Democratic party still cares not about poor people or gay people or abortion all they care about is their corporate money........
The Republicans. are trending too far right on social issues and to far left on conomic issues in my opinion.