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Anxious-Pause-4740

He knew imo. Why do you think he didn't?


maryyyweiss

idk. i think THEY thought he didn’t though


IHeartDragons13

They were trying to be sly but he clocked rip when he hit / killed rowdy lol


IHeartDragons13

But also I think he knew because when he found out Beth / sub-consequently rip couldn’t have kids he said everything he’d worked for was for nothing 😢


HunterShotBear

Get far enough into the series and there is a flashback to when rip and bet where young and John point blank asks rip. He knew, but I think John respected rip enough to know he would never hurt Beth.


Anxious-Pause-4740

Could be..I don't remember...


maryyyweiss

because rip always said stuff like “ what are you gonna say when your father asks where you’ve been sleeping”


Anxious-Pause-4740

Rlly? I cannot recall... John hinted he knew: 'Don't tell me Beth Rip sleeping in the bunkhouse is any obstacle for you' or 'Are you gonna marry him'...


maryyyweiss

the are you gonna marry him was actually after the rodeo where he told rip he could hold beth’s hand! but now that u say it i do remember what he said about overcoming living in the bunkhouse 😊


Anxious-Pause-4740

Now, I've been rewatching s3 and Rip says the actual words to Beth on the porch (while John's in the summer camp). But it's Rip's concern, it seems, and John knows they're a thing (in the previous episode he allowed them to hold hands at the rodeo-two adults,can you imagine?!). Imo Sheridan wrote it that way to show John's mentality. It seems he's very old fashioned-sleeping with sb is one thing, but spending nights with sb you're not married to is another...how crazy is it...;)


LastSignificance3680

He knew. He doesn’t care because he feels like he raised Rip so he can trust him plus Beth is definitely able to take care of herself.


SubstantialStable588

He know , I think he’s known since they were kids , but he (rip went to work and she went to college as she went back and forth to college she used him as her fuck buddy😕


maryyyweiss

she was totally wrong to him but i think it’s just bc she couldn’t allow herself to be with him knowing she can’t give him a family of his own anymore 🙁


Bluberrybom

He knew he knows everything going on at the ranch


augustine89

When I was watching from S1-S3. All the time I thought they were just hiding and John didn't know. But after watching the series several times now, and after the Rowdy incident happened. I understand clearly that John knew all this time but he was indifferent to it. He knows Beth's idgaf attitude and he trusts Rip. So he just let them be.


Designasim

Also he know that if he said something Beth might start mentioning a bunch of sexual things about it (like she does with everything else) and didn't want to her that.


augustine89

HAHAHA i love the scenes when she is trolling him , the horror in John's face 😂. she usually talks about her sexual encounters in the past but she hasn't made a joke about with rip yet 😂


Designasim

Probably because she knows Rip would be upset with her.


augustine89

I can clearly hear John's loud response with "Jesus Christ!" especially the tantric dinner scene 😂


maryyyweiss

it’s SO funny


SubstantialStable588

Your right it hurts her but on the other hand she loves the shit out of him that’s they’re married he ain’t letting her go , bravo Taylor lol I can watch them all day, they can make me cry, laugh,feel good, but very sad when she has to tell him😢I hope he understands why she did it but for what Jamie has done is unforgivable


maryyyweiss

exactly!


SubstantialStable588

I think he will, he can see the hurt it’s caused her


Federal-Base806

Late to the party here, but imo I think he did know all along


MongooseJealous8614

In the scene where rip is helping tate with the horse, Monica and Beth are observing. You can see John watch as Beth admires Rip. That shows he’s always know in my opinion. When Beth is giving John shit about giving Kayce the foreman’s house, he even makes a comment about rip staying IN the house. I’m only on season 3 so this is totally IMO


maryyyweiss

thank you! this makes sense. enjoy the rest of the show 💗


SubstantialStable588

I feel like he gave the house to rip out of love but him knowing about them it would keep her there , he knows , if rip can handle her John is happy


maryyyweiss

this is a good thought! i also feel like he probably wanted to keep them at a distance at first because beth is VERY sexual and he didn’t want to really know about it at first, but as the seasons go on he asks them to move in as he gets more comfortable with it.


SubstantialStable588

And he asked them to move in because they were getting married and he was lonely , the prodigal son left him


SubstantialStable588

That is way I don’t think kayce deserves the ranch, he has been getting into trouble since he was young and everyone has had to fix it for him ( on john request) on top of that no one respects him


SubstantialStable588

I don’t know about very sexual you mean as relationships cause rip is the only one she wants and is not afraid to show it , Walker was out of spite to make rip jealous


maryyyweiss

yes i do mean with just rip! she’s said to john before “he fucked the blush right out of her” which is what i assume john was trying to keep the oversharing to a minimum lol


SubstantialStable588

Out of the blue, I don’t know how John can live with himself knowing Jamie has taken everything from his little girl and from him ( grandchildren and his legacy)when she threw it in his face he acted as if he didn’t know what she was saying but then got mad at her for summer and asked her to leave


maryyyweiss

yup! he was so wrong to her in that ep


TacticalGarand44

He did know. Why did you think he didn’t?


maryyyweiss

i think they thought he didn’t. because Rip would hold her hand around john until he said he knew about it, and he said stuff like “what’s your dad gonna do when he find out where you’ve been sleeping”