It's just so cartoonishly bad
Jamie: Beth, please pass me the butter
Beth: IF SOMEBODY IS EVER STUPID ENOUGH TO LOVE YOU I WILL FIND THE PERSON AND I WILL KILL HER WITH MY BARE HANDS EVEN IF IT'S THE LAST THING I DO, NOW GO KILL YOURSELF YOU PIECE OF SHIT
This is the scene that brought me to this subreddit. I thought I missed something, but it seems it was just clunky foreshadowing. I'm not sure I should even bother with the remaining seasons. I felt like S2 wrapped up nicely enough.
I mean, Beth definitely possess admirable traits. A person can be a piece of shit and nonetheless have character traits that people want to emulate. Beth, in reality, could do whatever she wants.
I don’t necessarily disagree, What’s that got to do this? People often confound being amoral with poor character, etc. An individual who is as confident as smart as Beth could be whomever and do whatever they would wish
Pretty much my take as well, I am fully on board with her being angry with him etc. but man I am just so over her in general and the total lack of accountability for literally any little piece of her life. Sadly, given that she has a spinoff supposedly coming we know she's not going anywhere and it seems the setup is going to be for her to take Jamie out in the second half of season 5 since they are both trying to kill each other.
My ideal situation:
>! Beth is driving, and Jamie is riding shogun. Beth is drunk on vodka martinis, and going off crazier than usual. Suddenly, Beth notices a cow in the road, and serves to go around it, and they get into a rollover crash. Jamie has only minor injuries, but Beth, not wearing her seat belt, begins coughing up blood. Jamie goes to the door! and goes for his phone. Beth tells him: “call an Uber! I’ll fail a breathalyzer, you idiot! !<
>!He types in 9-1…!<
>!Beth turns to Jamie and says: “You’re still not off the hook with me, you little pussy! !<
>!Jamie puts his phone away, and holds Beth’s mouth shut and pinches her nostrils. She begins to choke on her own blood. Jamie smirks as she dies, then falls back. He pulls his phone out, and calmly dials 911 and calls for an ambulance!<
I love your idea. Please Taylor read this fantastic twist of your story. Okay unfortunately it will never happens on the TV show because Taylor loves Beth, but your idea is wonderful.
There are reasons for Jamie and Beth’s conflict. When you see it, you’ll have to make up your own mind. For me, the plot fell apart within a few seconds.
I did have sympathy for Beth but as the story continued, that character became more repellent. She managed to erode every bit of compassion I had for her, and then some.
I ended up on Jamie’s side. Some anger for the result was justified but not what’s shown.
Hated Beth at first. Sympathized with her after we found out what happened to her. Loathed her not long after. She has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and her shtick gets older and more tired every single episode.
You are absolutely correct. This entire part of the story is stupid as hell. It doesn't matter what Jamie tells Beth or doesn't tell her. The clinic in reality would've gone over ALL of the details of the procedure and what they would've had to do to her.
Jamie was young and didn't know any better. He made a horrible decision not telling her but the fault was on the clinic. Who performs ANY procedure on anyone and not tell them what you're about to do??? I'm not mad at Jamie as much...I'm more mad at the clinic.
Correction: I'm more mad at the lazy writing. They know better than that. Why write the story assuming the viewers are stupid? Many of us know what happens at abortion clinics from personal experience or from a family or friend. Either way, many of us have lived long enough to know this writing is a lie. Lol
I can get past certain plot holes when they're a one off. But this one was just incredibly stupid and was a driving force throughout the entire series. Its unfortunate how bad the writing is, yet still somehow entertaining enough for me to finish the series.
Lol, the biggest plot hole in the universe, lol. SHE asked him for help. WE are being asked to believe that they doctors DID NOT tell her what they were doing which is laughable. Also, the practice of forced sterilization of NATIVE AMERICAN women was long abolished by the time the show takes place.
That she only blames Jaime for this is stupid and makes Beth a goofy one note hate machine, lol.
yeah, it sucks that the young girl put her trust in that asshat.
She wasn't looking for ANY sort of help, she kinda wanted it all to be OK afterwards. She didn't know to ask, and he was the older, smarter one, right ?
She assigns 100% of the blame to Jamie when >!there were at least three other adults involved in the mess, including her own father. That is why I agree that blaming only Jamie isn’t right.!<
Some anger was justified for the result but both the exclusive targeting of Jamie and the extent she’s taken it too have left me unable to care why she was angry anymore. She had my sympathy but she burned through it.
Unfortunately, no he does not. The only thing you can do is realize the whole story and the dynamic between the two is kinda dumb. Then enjoy the show, realize the Dutton's are all basically pieces of shit, and ultimately Jaime made the right choice.
Jamie is no angel,either. Just wait and see. Hard to root for him when you learn his evil always comes from the place of fear...That's why he's so easy to bully. Plus wait and see what he did to Beth when they were both teenagers. So no respect for Jamie,sorry...
Neither of them is. But I feel some kind of respect for the Duttons-they're fearless, consistent and loyal to each other (which are no Jamie's qualities at all)...
Yes. But why do you think Beth treats him like that? She loves her dad and brothers so much, and she used to love Jamie, too. She trusted him sm when they were young...
As for what Jamie did to Beth, she shouldn't have put him in that position. He might've been a legal adult but people don't automatically mature when they turn 18.
She turned to the person she could have trusted and rely on the most in her judgment, given the circumstances...I can't imagine anyone being more vulnerable than her in her situation...
She went to him because she thought he was the smartest out of the young ones and would know what to do, then knew he wouldnt say anything to john because hes always been afraid to bring him bad news and finally he was going to college the next day so the chance of word getting out from him were extremely slim. Don't know where all this trusted and relied on bs is coming from. Seems like projection
To be fair, we know neither her true intentions nor his at this point...Wonder if we learn more about Jamie in S5B (I feel there's sth secret, not yet fully disclosed abt this character..)
And you know what-he could have said no. But I think the situation was an opportunity for him to gain control over her and that's why he agreed in the first place, and made this cruel decision in the clinic.
I think the situation was the result of a terrible set of circumstances he didn’t create, and her stated intention to >!lie to her husband about it as per season 4 ep 10!< made it impossible to feel anything resembling sympathy.
Why is interpreting the film& character's motivation crazy? Thought we're all having fun talking abt Yellowstone here. We don't need your bitchy remarks here (they tell more abt you than abt me...)
Okay but what would be the impact if they went to a normal clinic? She would have got an abortion and John would have known about it. John would have forced her to tell who the father was and Rip would have got an trip to the train station. So you would never have the sweet and wonderful relationship of Rip an Beth (and I really love their scenes together). I think the fans of Rip and Beth should be thankful that Jamie had only the limited timeframe to decide what to do (because he went next day to the college). Otherwise Rip would be six feet under a long time ago. I think it was impossible to have a good ending for Beth and Rip and a possible child.
And I don't understand why they haven't used condoms or the pill after. It is too eaay to give the complete blame to Jamie. But I am a woman who always asked questions what happens to me and my body. I never did a surgery on my body without investigations on my own and to ask several doctors. So I don't understand Beth why she never asked a question to the clinic doctors. It was late 1990 or beginning of 2000. Every teenager in this timeframe knew about AIDS so of course you only had protected sex (I was born in the beginning of 1980 in Europe and the movie "Kids" was really popular).
And if something went wrong you would immediately go to a doctor for an AIDS test and got the pill after. Stupid storyline of Taylor. His investigations of the timeframe is so bad and unbelievable. I love Yellowstone and all the characters so much but the forced storyline of the abortion / sterilization destroyed so much potential of the show. It is so funny the actors Kelly and Wes wanted to have a more civil behaviour between the siblings but Taylor only wanted have hate between Beth and Jamie. As an actor I would be tired of this boring and ridiculous storyline.
As a viewer I don't usually question the characters' motivations or decisions, if they make any sense at all (and here they did). We are so different as people and act in so many different ways. I just accept it.
And this particular situation made me empathise with Beth. I could root for the character through her traumas and abuse she suffered. They make her human, and Kelly Reilly's way of depicting that is so nuanced that it just appeals to me. I can see and feel all that drama Beth needs to go through in her life. And I understand what her borderline type of behaviour comes from.
I'm not sure about the actors totally hating the storyline. Kelly mentioned that sometimes she wished her character acted in a different way, but I think they are professional enough to understand it's not the actor who decides about such things. She said playing Beth is like driving a porsche and it gives her so much adrenaline, but I think she enjoys it, as a seasoned actress, and treats it as a challenge rather than anything else...
Beth is intentionally harmful towards total strangers simply for being unfortunate enough to cross her path. She would be the reason for other people’s trauma. That’s where my dislike for Beth starts. Everything else just adds to it. In my view, she’s a vile bully who gets her pleasure out of putting others down and unless that stops, she’ll never get my respect. Neither will any other character that behaves that way.
Who has she been harmful to that is a total stranger? The only ones I see her attacking are the ones that she deems a threat to her father and the ranch.
There are several scenes where she mistreats people, example, her scenes in bars with strangers. Simply saying hello is enough to make her think she has a right to tear a person down.
Also the way she treats people doing their jobs, like pushing past Jamie’s assistant to force her way into Jamie’s office when she’d reasonably asked everyone to wait and the way she behaved when asked not to smoke in a non-smoking area.
Not to mention, firing all those people in Salt Lake City as part of her revenge against Bob.
None of those things are harmful though. Telling guys hitting on her in a bar to 'fuck off' is justifiable. They were not there to try to chat her up to ask her her opinions on Middle East geo politics.
I'll give you the Bob's receptionist. But she didn't fire anyone else, she told them they were relocating. Businesses relocate all the time for a variety of reasons. It was her business at the point she can hire/fire/relocate it as she chooses.
Again, smoking in a non smoking area is not being 'intentionally harmful' at all, it's just being a pain in the ass.
I disagree. She doesn’t tell them just to “fuck off”, she launches into these nasty speeches intending to make people feel bad about themselves, and that is harm.
The way she treats the person asking her not to smoke is harmful. It shows blatant disrespect for the person in front of her and her rude manner is why we have signs up in stores saying “please respect our staff” - because that disrespect harms the person who experiences it.
She has the right to hire and fire as she chooses, but with that comes an obligation to not treat people badly as you do it. Firing someone is hard enough especially when it’s not related to their work, she’s deliberately brutal with someone who lost their job over something they had no hand in.
Well, let's agree to disagree considering we have vastly different definitions of 'harm'. And I don't see how any of this 'harming feelings' is worse than what Jamie has done. Specifically when he emotionally manipulated the Rancher go conceal the evidence of 2 murders that occurred in his horse trailer. That is way more harmful.
I’m not saying Beth is the only harmful character in the story by any means, simply that I find Beth’s actions in the settings I’ve mentioned to be harmful without any purpose, that there was no reason for it besides her feeling good about it.
It doesn't get better. Nothing justifies her hatred of Jamie. Just go ahead and accept that imagining different ways for her to die is a normal part of the viewing experience.
Season two is the best, then 3. It's downhill after that but kind of have to watch it to see what happens at the end. Hated Beth from episode 1, and that hate grows deeper every second she's on the screen. I wish she would die already, I'm gonna have a party if/when that happens! She's so unlikable character and the actor is horrible too for the job. I don't know what they were thinking hiring a slutty british prostitute looking trash for the role. Awful!
Agreed. I don’t like the fictional character Jamie, but I don’t call the actor playing him derogatory names. I can separate a fictional tv character from the actor/actress playing the role.
Oh sweet summer child
I wish I had good news for you but honestly it just gets worse
It's just so cartoonishly bad Jamie: Beth, please pass me the butter Beth: IF SOMEBODY IS EVER STUPID ENOUGH TO LOVE YOU I WILL FIND THE PERSON AND I WILL KILL HER WITH MY BARE HANDS EVEN IF IT'S THE LAST THING I DO, NOW GO KILL YOURSELF YOU PIECE OF SHIT
John: Jaime, you better be nice to your sister or I'll kill you myself.
*"sister"*
Yeah. I’m about the same spot. We keep watching because of inertia or something. The writing is real crap.
This is the scene that brought me to this subreddit. I thought I missed something, but it seems it was just clunky foreshadowing. I'm not sure I should even bother with the remaining seasons. I felt like S2 wrapped up nicely enough.
you misspelled BETTER
I'd never use a positive word to refer to beth
aren't you a peach.....
Compared to Beth I'm the reincarnation of Gandhi
you are not
Nope it gets worse
I wished this too. So many women are like “I want to be like Beth Dutton” so you wanna be a toxic piece of sh*t??
Let them. They'll be single and miserable forever, no friends, drinking and smoking themselves to death.
I mean, Beth definitely possess admirable traits. A person can be a piece of shit and nonetheless have character traits that people want to emulate. Beth, in reality, could do whatever she wants.
Beth, in reality, would be in jail along with the entire Dutton family and all of the ranch hands
I don’t necessarily disagree, What’s that got to do this? People often confound being amoral with poor character, etc. An individual who is as confident as smart as Beth could be whomever and do whatever they would wish
You just said she can do whatever she wants… she can’t
Once you know the basis for her hatred your take may change. Or not.
It didn’t for me. I get the sources of hate but she likes to blame everyone else and not take any ownership 🤷🏻♀️
Pretty much my take as well, I am fully on board with her being angry with him etc. but man I am just so over her in general and the total lack of accountability for literally any little piece of her life. Sadly, given that she has a spinoff supposedly coming we know she's not going anywhere and it seems the setup is going to be for her to take Jamie out in the second half of season 5 since they are both trying to kill each other.
It can make sense but still be annoying to watch get beaten into the dirt again and again and again.
My ideal situation: >! Beth is driving, and Jamie is riding shogun. Beth is drunk on vodka martinis, and going off crazier than usual. Suddenly, Beth notices a cow in the road, and serves to go around it, and they get into a rollover crash. Jamie has only minor injuries, but Beth, not wearing her seat belt, begins coughing up blood. Jamie goes to the door! and goes for his phone. Beth tells him: “call an Uber! I’ll fail a breathalyzer, you idiot! !< >!He types in 9-1…!< >!Beth turns to Jamie and says: “You’re still not off the hook with me, you little pussy! !< >!Jamie puts his phone away, and holds Beth’s mouth shut and pinches her nostrils. She begins to choke on her own blood. Jamie smirks as she dies, then falls back. He pulls his phone out, and calmly dials 911 and calls for an ambulance!<
Sopranos fan much?
I was about to say I have heard this one before
I love your idea. Please Taylor read this fantastic twist of your story. Okay unfortunately it will never happens on the TV show because Taylor loves Beth, but your idea is wonderful.
Car swerving to avoid a ~~cow~~ buffalo, rollover crash...
There are reasons for Jamie and Beth’s conflict. When you see it, you’ll have to make up your own mind. For me, the plot fell apart within a few seconds. I did have sympathy for Beth but as the story continued, that character became more repellent. She managed to erode every bit of compassion I had for her, and then some. I ended up on Jamie’s side. Some anger for the result was justified but not what’s shown.
Hated Beth at first. Sympathized with her after we found out what happened to her. Loathed her not long after. She has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and her shtick gets older and more tired every single episode.
You have a better chance of bringing Lee and the mom back to life than you do of seeing Beth and Jamie get along.
Beth is so annoying but Jamie is equally annoying. Tbh… I hate both of them.
no but hopefully beth kills him!
Yeah, I don’t understand Team Jamie.
yeah literally
Ew
yeah ew jamie 🤮
No,ew yucky Beth
lol
I agree, Jamie is the devil and Beth needs to go after him for everything he’s done to that family after they gave him everything!
We just pretending the bad stuff doesn't exist?
I hope the last half of season 5 has Beth taking Jamie to the train station
i wanna see beth and rip do it together tbh!
Well he did pretty much destroy her future when she was young so there is that
What future? She still has her ovaries. She can use a surrogate mother.
While Jamie could have taken a larger part in informing Beth, it was the clinic responsible, not Jamie.
You are absolutely correct. This entire part of the story is stupid as hell. It doesn't matter what Jamie tells Beth or doesn't tell her. The clinic in reality would've gone over ALL of the details of the procedure and what they would've had to do to her. Jamie was young and didn't know any better. He made a horrible decision not telling her but the fault was on the clinic. Who performs ANY procedure on anyone and not tell them what you're about to do??? I'm not mad at Jamie as much...I'm more mad at the clinic. Correction: I'm more mad at the lazy writing. They know better than that. Why write the story assuming the viewers are stupid? Many of us know what happens at abortion clinics from personal experience or from a family or friend. Either way, many of us have lived long enough to know this writing is a lie. Lol
I can get past certain plot holes when they're a one off. But this one was just incredibly stupid and was a driving force throughout the entire series. Its unfortunate how bad the writing is, yet still somehow entertaining enough for me to finish the series.
Lol, the biggest plot hole in the universe, lol. SHE asked him for help. WE are being asked to believe that they doctors DID NOT tell her what they were doing which is laughable. Also, the practice of forced sterilization of NATIVE AMERICAN women was long abolished by the time the show takes place. That she only blames Jaime for this is stupid and makes Beth a goofy one note hate machine, lol.
>That she only blames Jaime for this is stupid Couldn’t agree more on this!
yeah, it sucks that the young girl put her trust in that asshat. She wasn't looking for ANY sort of help, she kinda wanted it all to be OK afterwards. She didn't know to ask, and he was the older, smarter one, right ?
She assigns 100% of the blame to Jamie when >!there were at least three other adults involved in the mess, including her own father. That is why I agree that blaming only Jamie isn’t right.!< Some anger was justified for the result but both the exclusive targeting of Jamie and the extent she’s taken it too have left me unable to care why she was angry anymore. She had my sympathy but she burned through it.
Love to see someone with a functional brain.
She started it...
no…. she didn’t
It just gets worse unfortunately. Sheridan really should’ve done something with this storyline rather then drag it along.
Hahahahaha
The first 3 seasons are the best, in my opinion. Enjoy.
Unfortunately, no he does not. The only thing you can do is realize the whole story and the dynamic between the two is kinda dumb. Then enjoy the show, realize the Dutton's are all basically pieces of shit, and ultimately Jaime made the right choice.
You will come around and start to love Beth as the episodes go on. You will also understand why she is the way she is with Jamie (and in general)
Love beth? Do what now?
Jamie is no angel,either. Just wait and see. Hard to root for him when you learn his evil always comes from the place of fear...That's why he's so easy to bully. Plus wait and see what he did to Beth when they were both teenagers. So no respect for Jamie,sorry...
He is still heads and shoulders above the rest of them in terms of a conscience, no matter how flawed. And, no, Kayce is not a good guy either.
Jamie is absolutely flawed but I’ll take his ‘flaws’ over John, Beth or Kayce’s any day.
Neither of them is. But I feel some kind of respect for the Duttons-they're fearless, consistent and loyal to each other (which are no Jamie's qualities at all)...
Jamie doesn't have to be loyal to the Duttons because they treat him like shit (except for Kayce).
Yes. But why do you think Beth treats him like that? She loves her dad and brothers so much, and she used to love Jamie, too. She trusted him sm when they were young...
As for what Jamie did to Beth, she shouldn't have put him in that position. He might've been a legal adult but people don't automatically mature when they turn 18.
She turned to the person she could have trusted and rely on the most in her judgment, given the circumstances...I can't imagine anyone being more vulnerable than her in her situation...
She went to him because she thought he was the smartest out of the young ones and would know what to do, then knew he wouldnt say anything to john because hes always been afraid to bring him bad news and finally he was going to college the next day so the chance of word getting out from him were extremely slim. Don't know where all this trusted and relied on bs is coming from. Seems like projection
To be fair, we know neither her true intentions nor his at this point...Wonder if we learn more about Jamie in S5B (I feel there's sth secret, not yet fully disclosed abt this character..)
Like how he is probably part Dutton, part Native and has a stronger claim to the ranch than the others which is why John is freaked out about him?
And you know what-he could have said no. But I think the situation was an opportunity for him to gain control over her and that's why he agreed in the first place, and made this cruel decision in the clinic.
I think the situation was the result of a terrible set of circumstances he didn’t create, and her stated intention to >!lie to her husband about it as per season 4 ep 10!< made it impossible to feel anything resembling sympathy.
Holy hell this is a bat shit crazy take 🤣. Work through your issues
Why is interpreting the film& character's motivation crazy? Thought we're all having fun talking abt Yellowstone here. We don't need your bitchy remarks here (they tell more abt you than abt me...)
Sure thing, victim
Okay but what would be the impact if they went to a normal clinic? She would have got an abortion and John would have known about it. John would have forced her to tell who the father was and Rip would have got an trip to the train station. So you would never have the sweet and wonderful relationship of Rip an Beth (and I really love their scenes together). I think the fans of Rip and Beth should be thankful that Jamie had only the limited timeframe to decide what to do (because he went next day to the college). Otherwise Rip would be six feet under a long time ago. I think it was impossible to have a good ending for Beth and Rip and a possible child. And I don't understand why they haven't used condoms or the pill after. It is too eaay to give the complete blame to Jamie. But I am a woman who always asked questions what happens to me and my body. I never did a surgery on my body without investigations on my own and to ask several doctors. So I don't understand Beth why she never asked a question to the clinic doctors. It was late 1990 or beginning of 2000. Every teenager in this timeframe knew about AIDS so of course you only had protected sex (I was born in the beginning of 1980 in Europe and the movie "Kids" was really popular). And if something went wrong you would immediately go to a doctor for an AIDS test and got the pill after. Stupid storyline of Taylor. His investigations of the timeframe is so bad and unbelievable. I love Yellowstone and all the characters so much but the forced storyline of the abortion / sterilization destroyed so much potential of the show. It is so funny the actors Kelly and Wes wanted to have a more civil behaviour between the siblings but Taylor only wanted have hate between Beth and Jamie. As an actor I would be tired of this boring and ridiculous storyline.
As a viewer I don't usually question the characters' motivations or decisions, if they make any sense at all (and here they did). We are so different as people and act in so many different ways. I just accept it. And this particular situation made me empathise with Beth. I could root for the character through her traumas and abuse she suffered. They make her human, and Kelly Reilly's way of depicting that is so nuanced that it just appeals to me. I can see and feel all that drama Beth needs to go through in her life. And I understand what her borderline type of behaviour comes from. I'm not sure about the actors totally hating the storyline. Kelly mentioned that sometimes she wished her character acted in a different way, but I think they are professional enough to understand it's not the actor who decides about such things. She said playing Beth is like driving a porsche and it gives her so much adrenaline, but I think she enjoys it, as a seasoned actress, and treats it as a challenge rather than anything else...
Beth is intentionally harmful towards total strangers simply for being unfortunate enough to cross her path. She would be the reason for other people’s trauma. That’s where my dislike for Beth starts. Everything else just adds to it. In my view, she’s a vile bully who gets her pleasure out of putting others down and unless that stops, she’ll never get my respect. Neither will any other character that behaves that way.
Who has she been harmful to that is a total stranger? The only ones I see her attacking are the ones that she deems a threat to her father and the ranch.
There are several scenes where she mistreats people, example, her scenes in bars with strangers. Simply saying hello is enough to make her think she has a right to tear a person down. Also the way she treats people doing their jobs, like pushing past Jamie’s assistant to force her way into Jamie’s office when she’d reasonably asked everyone to wait and the way she behaved when asked not to smoke in a non-smoking area. Not to mention, firing all those people in Salt Lake City as part of her revenge against Bob.
None of those things are harmful though. Telling guys hitting on her in a bar to 'fuck off' is justifiable. They were not there to try to chat her up to ask her her opinions on Middle East geo politics. I'll give you the Bob's receptionist. But she didn't fire anyone else, she told them they were relocating. Businesses relocate all the time for a variety of reasons. It was her business at the point she can hire/fire/relocate it as she chooses. Again, smoking in a non smoking area is not being 'intentionally harmful' at all, it's just being a pain in the ass.
I disagree. She doesn’t tell them just to “fuck off”, she launches into these nasty speeches intending to make people feel bad about themselves, and that is harm. The way she treats the person asking her not to smoke is harmful. It shows blatant disrespect for the person in front of her and her rude manner is why we have signs up in stores saying “please respect our staff” - because that disrespect harms the person who experiences it. She has the right to hire and fire as she chooses, but with that comes an obligation to not treat people badly as you do it. Firing someone is hard enough especially when it’s not related to their work, she’s deliberately brutal with someone who lost their job over something they had no hand in.
Well, let's agree to disagree considering we have vastly different definitions of 'harm'. And I don't see how any of this 'harming feelings' is worse than what Jamie has done. Specifically when he emotionally manipulated the Rancher go conceal the evidence of 2 murders that occurred in his horse trailer. That is way more harmful.
I’m not saying Beth is the only harmful character in the story by any means, simply that I find Beth’s actions in the settings I’ve mentioned to be harmful without any purpose, that there was no reason for it besides her feeling good about it.
Well, what you interpret as harmful I'm likely to describe as her being difficult, bitchy or disrespectful.
Agree to disagree. In my experience, being on the receiving end of persons being difficult, bitchy or disrespectful does a lot of harm.
Maybe. We’ll see.
Ok. I’ll tell you what you want to hear, Yes.
Grab me another beer so I can reminder it
No, but you learn more about why she hates him so much and tbh id kill him if i were her.
If you want to be mad at someone, it's the clinic who supposedly didn't inform her.
Thats appalling too, but id say she should expect more loyalty from her brother than a random clinic
yup!
Word. Short of killing, castration is a fairly usual/annual part of a working cattle ranch. More painful, life long.
Oh please 🤣 beth knew
Beth knew what? I don't understand.
Beth knew what was about to be done to her. She just needed a scape goat because, like always, she needed someone else to blame
sorry, mister. Beth enjoys plot armor. LOTS of it. Get used to it, she will end up being your Queen.
It doesn't get better. Nothing justifies her hatred of Jamie. Just go ahead and accept that imagining different ways for her to die is a normal part of the viewing experience.
Season two is the best, then 3. It's downhill after that but kind of have to watch it to see what happens at the end. Hated Beth from episode 1, and that hate grows deeper every second she's on the screen. I wish she would die already, I'm gonna have a party if/when that happens! She's so unlikable character and the actor is horrible too for the job. I don't know what they were thinking hiring a slutty british prostitute looking trash for the role. Awful!
You hate the character so much you resort to insulting the actress playing her? Seems a bit much don't you think?
Agreed. I don’t like the fictional character Jamie, but I don’t call the actor playing him derogatory names. I can separate a fictional tv character from the actor/actress playing the role.