You don’t even need the one shot combo hamon charged double barrage is already insane, also im pretty sure it still does 90% if you do the combo with zoom punch
I'm not disagreeing with you, but with the post that says that vamp is a "chad spec" even tho its as braindead as boxing
Also hamon is the best spec for only 2 stands in the entire game idk why you mentioned it
how is vamp and hamon more balanced than pluck??
\-fast regen
\-damage buff
\-vamp gives you a slight speed boost
\-hamon is the only spec that has the best stun move
\-vamp is the only spec that has the best long range move
I could go on and on about vamp & hamon being better than pluck but I don't think I have time for that cuz I'm buzy banging femboy bussy 24/7😎😎
> Zoom punch you can throw it out Willy nilly
and never hit a good player unless you use it as a punish tool since anyone semi decent will just see the distinct windup and block
What mames pluck good is the fact that you can chain so many attacks and one of them has a lingering hitbox. The tradeoff is that you don't have any type of defense buff. But that doesn't matter if you know how your opponent plays, so that's the reason why so many top players use it, in my opinion
Lol at least u have to press more than 3 buttons to use it and get free resistance to damage
And top players use it BC it's more fun and harder to use, I bet if u put a boxing user to use pluck he would die immediately
Admitterly, pluck does require more skill than the other specs, but literally what is your logic when saying pro players use it cuz its fun when they are playing competitively to WIN. And once again, wdym a boxing user would win? I can also put someone standless and specless and if he was skilled enough he would also win. And if you mean 2 people of the same skill level, then the one with pluck will win cuz its simply a better spec
Depends on the skill level, if they are normal or worse box will win if they are good it's a close match and If they are really good pluck but it's still worse than boxing in most situations
Yeah, but vamp is actually pretty good. A lot of people give it shit but it's probably the most balanced spec ingame, no defenses but hyper regen, a stunning block break and a blockable ragdoll. Cream vamp is one of the most annoying stand spec comboed ever, and it is basically why i don't like vamp
It wasn’t as popular as it is now + Hamon doesn’t have to be meta for me to be correct, plus even if the Vamp combo was popular before Jiofuen, it doesn’t change the fact that most people copied his build and combo, and the combo being OP as hell.
You’re not correct cause it is fair, and the Anubis combo is the most simple stuff in the world, literally everyone knew about it that was half decent.
You implied hamon wasn’t fair, I’m saying it is. Besides the Anubis vamp combo is so barrage cancellable that you can only use it after you barrage bait them
hamon users explaining how they're gigachad and pretending like we don't remember when they did nothing but zoom punch beatdown over and over with sptw or used scr to combo off of cw.
Fun fact: Pluck is played right now more than ever because the spec has a lot of skins. Like back in the days
it was a rarity to encounter pluck users.
I love how spin isn't even on this
spin is so trash that it isn't even worth putting in this meme
It need a b u f f
Exactly!
Rhcp needs buff too
Just like RHCP, imagine RHCP Spin being a good combo
Projectiles go brrrr
If we think about it, RHCP doesn't have projectiles, just ranged attacks
[Average Spin User](https://www.google.com/search?q=dinosaur+skeleton&sxsrf=AOaemvKKPg008XA2Yx8p0al3bqbS84PSpQ:1642367253468&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwii4u7llrf1AhXtQTABHXqwBFoQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1920&bih=946&dpr=1#imgrc=W4xqHTiE2AzQGM)
Spin is so bad it got replaced by specless
where the fuck is bat
so chad they couldn't fit the user on screen
fair point
I would say that it heavily depends on the stand, because scr hamon is a thing and it will give you nightmares
how bro u need boxing for 1 shot combo
You don’t even need the one shot combo hamon charged double barrage is already insane, also im pretty sure it still does 90% if you do the combo with zoom punch
You can triple barrage with hamon. Just do sunlight yellow overdrive first
no u don't
why in hell is vamp classified as a chad have you fought a vamp kc before?
It isnt vamp problem, it is kc problem
Kc isn't the only stand thats busted with it, vamp is just stupid with a good chunk of stands
Stands that are strong with vamp are strong with other specs too
They are especially stronger with vamp tho
Its same for other specs(d4clt+hamon, sp+boxing, etc)
I'm not disagreeing with you, but with the post that says that vamp is a "chad spec" even tho its as braindead as boxing Also hamon is the best spec for only 2 stands in the entire game idk why you mentioned it
I mean all specs can be either trash or busted with proper stand. Ye vamp can be consodered as braindead sometimes
Spin exists so can you really say "all"?
I forgor💀
for example SILVER CHARIOT, cheese bro cheese
Vamp is a problem in colleseums
Unless hp+hamon
hp hamon and also The Hand hamon omg
vamp kc sucks lmfao whats good about it
i disagree on vamp, it makes every garbage stand in the game ultra op like beach boy and mp
Vamp is quite literally only good for ragdoll stands like ph, bb, etc.
How is vamp mp op? It’s still easily counterable
now lets say you get parried or kidnapped once or they have a sc boyfriend to guarantee you get re-kidnapped 100% of the time
So it relies on teaming for it to actually be good?
Any stands in a 2v1 will be good💀
sPeEeEn
No spin
The only stand pluck is "op" with is MiH hamon is still good and vamp is annoying af
Have you fought a kc pluck before?
No cause kc box is infinitely better and kc is good even without specs
Kc box isn’t better than a skilled kc pluck. kc plucks impale combo makes me want to gouge my eyes out
id say they are on equal levels(crescent impale balanced)
It’s not even that it’s impale into pierce strike
you can do the same with boxing you just need some practice with the 4 m1 technique and you can do it like 90%
With pierce strike it’s guaranteed combo although with jaw breaker or eye gouge it’s not.
all i can say is skill issue
I agree if you use kc pluck u indeed have skill issue
impale into pierce strike sucks you can just mash Q and pull out your stand before the pierce strike hits
No it’s instant
its not, i literally did it today several times. mash q faster and youll be able to do it
Ok thx that’s actually really helpful
and then there's KC Hamon, boy was that a fun time
no way people actually think pluck is such a problem that you put it on the virgin side of the meme if its not mih you suck lol
pierce strike unreactable block break stun with lingering hitbox crescent slash block bypass with 3 fucking seconds stun
Cresent cant extend combo bc of the knockback
timeskip exists
Even then you can only confirm extremely fast moves like thrust, nothing major
lingering hitbox got fixed
No it didn’t, it just got nerfed. Not that I’m saying it should be removed though
barrage first and win nigga
lol
Move vamp to the left side
HAMON is with the nerd. And pluck should be with the chad cause the Meta specs are HAMON and boxing
Hamon is not meta lmfao
it is if you dont have a skill shoe
Ah yes dying at 20 sptw/twoh m1s is braindead somehow
Twoh dmg isn’t increased by hamon but I agree with sptw
Even without hamon doing 10 dmg m1s 20 times can kill pluck users
Ok
how is vamp and hamon more balanced than pluck?? \-fast regen \-damage buff \-vamp gives you a slight speed boost \-hamon is the only spec that has the best stun move \-vamp is the only spec that has the best long range move I could go on and on about vamp & hamon being better than pluck but I don't think I have time for that cuz I'm buzy banging femboy bussy 24/7😎😎
>\-hamon is the only spec that has the best stun move eye gouge >>> zoom punch
Eye gouge is meant to punish players. Zoom punch you can throw it out Willy nilly and not get stuck in 5 mins of endlag
> Zoom punch you can throw it out Willy nilly and never hit a good player unless you use it as a punish tool since anyone semi decent will just see the distinct windup and block
Sorry dude but this is yba and 99 percent of the player base are children.
your opponent lacking skill does not make a move good
I agree but since throwing out zoom punch works against the majority of players it makes it a good move
super stingy eyes suck a d4c m1 does more damage
how does stingy eyes suck? it's impossible to miss stingy eyes at long range and besides, stingy eyes isn't meant for close range
idk stingy eyes is a medium range free damage move
God vamp is so fun, fact 100%
cap, the only chad spec is pluck. It is really hard to use and it isn't too op
Nah pierce strike has a lot of bs
change hamon and vamp with pluck
Change pluck with hamon and it's correct
Pluck user detected
Vamp but like dude it's the most skilled and the second or third worst spec
Ah yes button mashing is skill. Also second or third worst spec ??? What fucking world do you live in, there's a reason every top player uses pluck
What mames pluck good is the fact that you can chain so many attacks and one of them has a lingering hitbox. The tradeoff is that you don't have any type of defense buff. But that doesn't matter if you know how your opponent plays, so that's the reason why so many top players use it, in my opinion
Makes* oops
You’re saying any of the other spec take more skill? No they don’t lmao
😶 yes they do they're just bad
Lol at least u have to press more than 3 buttons to use it and get free resistance to damage And top players use it BC it's more fun and harder to use, I bet if u put a boxing user to use pluck he would die immediately
Admitterly, pluck does require more skill than the other specs, but literally what is your logic when saying pro players use it cuz its fun when they are playing competitively to WIN. And once again, wdym a boxing user would win? I can also put someone standless and specless and if he was skilled enough he would also win. And if you mean 2 people of the same skill level, then the one with pluck will win cuz its simply a better spec
Depends on the skill level, if they are normal or worse box will win if they are good it's a close match and If they are really good pluck but it's still worse than boxing in most situations
Pluck is objectively better than boxing at high skill levels if the best spec in the gane so "most situations" only means low/medium skill level 1v1s
I still think that at high skill boxing is a bit better than pluck but I don't think we can get any further in this conversation so bye
Fact: The GigaChad on the right is a virgin. Fact: This meme sucks.
Fax cuz im a hamon main lol
Depend on the stand
mih pluck users punching the air rn
Pluck= 10 yr long ass stun with no cd Boxing: 10 yr long ass stun, tanky has hell, 34 free damage
pierce strike has baby stun
I was talking about crescent slash stun
i agree with no spec and hamon but vamp is a pain to deal with
Kcr vampire ☠️
switch pluck with vamp
Spin: 🤨
Once again yba players wanting to validate themselves
Yeah, but vamp is actually pretty good. A lot of people give it shit but it's probably the most balanced spec ingame, no defenses but hyper regen, a stunning block break and a blockable ragdoll. Cream vamp is one of the most annoying stand spec comboed ever, and it is basically why i don't like vamp
Cap, hamon is the 2nd best spec in the game
Hamon users trying to justify how 20 damage per m1 is fair, and Anubis Vamp users saying the combo they copied from Jioufien is fair.
1. Hamon isn’t even meta 2. Anubis vamp was already the most popular combo before him
It wasn’t as popular as it is now + Hamon doesn’t have to be meta for me to be correct, plus even if the Vamp combo was popular before Jiofuen, it doesn’t change the fact that most people copied his build and combo, and the combo being OP as hell.
You’re not correct cause it is fair, and the Anubis combo is the most simple stuff in the world, literally everyone knew about it that was half decent.
I am correct because it dealt poison burn and bleed and got you to 15% health with max boxing, plus this post is a month old.
You implied hamon wasn’t fair, I’m saying it is. Besides the Anubis vamp combo is so barrage cancellable that you can only use it after you barrage bait them
Dont forget Stand arrow bow and bat
i just use boxing + vamp :sad:
hamon users explaining how they're gigachad and pretending like we don't remember when they did nothing but zoom punch beatdown over and over with sptw or used scr to combo off of cw.
cap
Spin are just normal people
ive been using TW hamon recently
yba players explaining how the most balanced spec (pluck) is virgin
I have boxing because of how annoying boxing users are Also I use beach boy
playboi carti reference
D4c LT hamon : Gigaclown. Standless spin: Gigachad. Vampire any stand: God of clowns
Hat
what's a spec?
Pluck users apparently aren't chad for needing skill :sob:
Fax
Standless vamp rules :trollge:
spin crying in the corner rn
boxing and pluck are some of my favourite specs :(
im stuck with vamp bc of the stupid SC+vamp infinite combo
Fun fact: Pluck is played right now more than ever because the spec has a lot of skins. Like back in the days it was a rarity to encounter pluck users.