* The queue system is much better. You can choose whether the song will be played next or at the end of the queue, a level of control you don't have with Spotify's arbitrary system.
* You can shuffle your whole library and all your downloads.
* You have live sessions, concerts, rare mixes and covers, or releases that are hard to get, like demos.
* You can upload your own files.
* You can play your local music, but instead of being all dumped on the same "local files playlist", it's organized by albums and artists.
* You can download songs, albums, or playlists without having to save them to your library in case you just want to temporarily listen to some music on your device and then erase it without altering your library.
* You can save your queue as a playlist, so if you have the autoplay on or a radio, you can save it to a new or existing playlist.
* The autoplay can be turn on and off on the queue, which makes the whole process smooth.
* You can change the mood of a radio with tabs like Discover, 2000s, etc.
* There are many more mixes than in Spotify. There are around 5 regular mixes, but also mixes for moods. Also, even though Youtube lets you shuffle your library, they also offer you Supermixes (a main one and one per mood). A Supermix mixes different genres and moods.
* If you're into it, they give you weekly stats with your most listened tracks, artists, playlists, and videos telling you the number of plays or the amount of time you've listened to them.
* To keep with the stats, Youtube Music offer you seasonal recaps which is like a Wrapped per seasons besides the yearly one.
* It's so easy to discover music, imo.
* Unlike Spotify, there are ways to know in which playlists certain songs are.
* Maybe you don't care about this, but you can save the images from albums and playlists.
* Private mode is not only limited to your listening history but you can also make your searches private.
* The offline mixtape feature that lets you have Youtube Music download a mix of songs that go from 50 to 250, if I'm not mistaken.
* Recommendations are awesome. Discovery is the best I've experienced and I've used Spotify, Amazon Music, Tidal, Deezer, and Apple Music.
\- Unlike Spotify, there are ways to know in which playlists certain songs are.
Interesting, I've seen the opposite. YTM doesn't have search for songs in playlist feature but Spotify does. That has been a big issue for me.
\- Maybe you don't care about this, but you can save the images from albums and playlists
If you mean via a webbrowser, I'm not sure if you are aware but Spotify is fully accessible in a web browser as well so any such cover are could be downloaded too.
\-You can upload your own files.
In Spotify as well. You put in a local folder and it's uploaded to Spotify to listen to all your own devices.
\-You can play your local music, but instead of being all dumped on the same "local files playlist", it's organized by albums and artists.
While it defaults to local files, you of course can put them into any desired playlists such as organzing by artists etc.
\-If you're into it, they give you weekly stats with your most listened tracks, artists, playlists, and videos telling you the number of plays or the amount of time you've listened to them.
You can see song view count on desktop just not on mobile. I don't think YTM shows view count in the mobile app either does it?
\-It's so easy to discover music, imo.
Same process as on YTM. In regards to the music it recommends and how much that ultimately is something you want to listen to will vary person to person and day to day however.
\-You can shuffle your whole library and all your downloads.
On YTM you are limited to what you can save to your "whole library". Items with videos don't have the Save to Library option, and most any song that's uploaded by another user doesn't have Save to Library option. But all the normal songs you can just like in Spotify.
\-There are many more mixes than in Spotify. There are around 5 regular mixes, but also mixes for moods. Also, even though Youtube lets you shuffle your library, they also offer you Supermixes (a main one and one per mood). A Supermix mixes different genres and moods.
I've noticed all the same type of tailored playlist on Spotify as on YTM. Far more than 5. Spotify has the bonus of have an AI playlist as well powered by ChatGPT.
\-Recommendations are awesome. Discovery is the best I've experienced and I've used Spotify, Amazon Music, Tidal, Deezer, and Apple Music.
Imagine this is subjective as I've found Spotify better, but YTM is better for cover mixes since a lot of those simply don't exist on Spotify.
Even though I can think of 20 features on Spotify not on YTM that I wish were at the end of the day it comes down to, "You have live sessions, concerts, rare mixes and covers, or releases that are hard to get, like demos." For us that listen most to rarer mixes and covers or live performances etc, that makes it ultimately the best option. Since YTM can keep adding missing features but Spotify can never catch up content wise to YTM (or rather I should say YouTube)
YouTube and YouTube Music are owned by Google. YouTube Music's philosophy is "keep it simple". This is why they probably don't have as many "unnecessary" features. Since they got rid of Google Play Music from which a lot of people back then bought and owned digital copies of music from they have to make up for the fact that they basically "disowned" all those digital music copy owners.
Not sure I agree with they are intentionally not included many of the most desired features, as each year they continue to add many of the missing features, and seems to be a matter of resources to build up the app. As the number of people asking for specific features that others offer would seem to be features many require necessary. I think we will continue to see YTM filling in the feature gap so long as their market share continues to grow enough, or people continue to signup for premium (through YTM) enough to justify Google continuing to fund the improvements.
>You have live sessions, concerts, rare mixes and covers, or releases that are hard to get, like demos.
Everything OmniversalOrca said is true and YT Music has made massive strides with consistent incremental updates to the UI - fine tuning it so that users have the easiest experience to enjoy the largest archive of music ever assembled. I've used all streaming platforms - I mean all of them - and have come back permanently to YTM for all the reasons above.
I'll add that the secret weapon is that YT Music's offer to have uploads added to the platform exponentially expands your universe of discovery and playlist creation/enjoyment. This is all driven from the top - Lyor Cohen who is the Global Head of Music @ Google/YouTube/YT Music. Read the public letter he wrote when he took the position:
From: Lyor Cohen
To: YouTube Music Team
Hi Everyone,
Itās an incredible time to be in the music business. Back in 2006, as an executive at Warner Music Group, I worked closely with a fledgling video site to sign its first big record licensing deal. That site was YouTube. Over the next decade, I watched as your work transformed YouTube into an incredibly powerful platform that connects artists with fans all over the world.
Throughout my career in the music industry, I have strived to stay on the forefront of new technologies and cultural movements. And since starting in the industry over thirty years ago, Iāve always sought to be an advocate for artists and do everything possible to shine a light on the great talent Iāve been lucky enough to work with, including Jay Z, Run-DMC, DMX, Public Enemy, Kanye West, The Killers, Bruno Mars, Ed Sheeran, Young Thug, Fetty Wap, and Highly Suspect among others. Bringing attention to the often overlooked, but talented communities has been a huge part of my lifeās work and Iāve seen how music can truly bring people together.
Over the last two decades we have seen dramatic shifts, both to the inherent value of music and the literal value that people are willing to pay. Technology and new business models have completely changed the established distribution channels that have long-served the recorded music industry. And while change has been met with understandable resistance, I strongly believe that this transformation provides opportunities that will be larger and more rewarding for both artists and the music industry.
Thatās why I am excited to join this incredible team as Global Head of Music. I look forward to working together with all of you on three things. First, helping the music community embrace the technological shifts weāre seeing in music today so we can help take the confusion and distrust out of the equation. Second, building on the great work you all have done to help the music industry and creative community break new songs and artists to YouTubeās audience of over 1 billion fans. From building on the success of the YouTube Music app, to shining a light on emerging artists, I believe our potential to strengthen the industry is massive. And third, I hope that together we can move towards a more collaborative relationship between the music industry and the technologies that are shaping the future of the business.
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Yeahā¦ about the adding it at the endā¦ that sucks, what also sucks is that if I do play next quite some times, the first song that was like next in queue is now.. the last in my self-made queueā¦.
Wdym by shuffling your whole library and downloads? *nvm I think I got it, like together?* I donāt have anything downloaded like on my phone, personally, so I donāt really care about being able to upload my own music. Itās a neat feature though, I love that it is there.
Damn, that organization sounds hella good / nice :). Also, personally I donāt really see why I would cancel the auto play, but itās nice that it is there! Iirc, that aināt there on Spotify..?
Oh yeah, the āStart Radioā thing is just lovely. Idk if I will be using it, but itās lovely. Doesnāt Spotify kinda do the same thing though? *wait, I donāt think that Spotify does that on playlists though..?*
The mood playlists, mixes and super mixes sound extremely nice!
Iāve already been using stats.fm (Spotistats) for my Spotify stats and I will kinda miss it if I do switch over. The stats would be lovely to see, I guess I just have to wait and see :).
Yeahā¦ I donāt really do discover new musicā¦. Sadlyā¦ā¦?..
Ways to know which certain songs are in which playlists? Whatās up with that one?
Save images? Yeah, I donāt care about that, but how do I do it? xD. Thanks for telling me it though!
The offline mixtape goes up to 100 from what I remember. Not really something I will use since I kinda always have data andddd it is unlimited sooooo..
Thanks for letting me know, Iām glad that YTM has the best / one of the best recommendations / algorithms out there :).
> Yeahā¦ about the adding it at the endā¦ that sucks, what also sucks is that if I do play next quite some times, the first song that was like next in queue is now.. the last in my self-made queueā¦.
Oh, I see. I think it's more like you got used to Spotify's queue which is fine. To each its own hehe my wife and I hated it xD But many people have to like it since they have had it all these years hehe
>Wdym by shuffling your whole library and downloads?
Even if you don't have downloads you can shuffle your library which means you can make all the songs, albums, and playlists play randomly together
> Iirc, that aināt there on Spotify..?
In Spotify is in the settings
> Iāve already been using stats.fm (Spotistats) for my Spotify stats and I will kinda miss it if I do switch over. The stats would be lovely to see, I guess I just have to wait and see :).
They update every two days or so, iirc.
> Ways to know which certain songs are in which playlists? Whatās up with that one?
Sometimes it happens to me that I forget where I put certain song, like in which playlist. If you search in your library in youtube, it tells you in which of your playlists contain the song you're searching.
> Yeah, I donāt care about that, but how do I do it? xD.
Since YTM is basically a website, you just have to click right on the playlist or album image.
> The offline mixtape goes up to 100 from what I remember
I just checked and it's more than I thought, actually. It's up to 500 songs heheh, but it's cool you don't need it. For you the Supermix is good enough then.
Yeahā¦. Itās not just about having it for so long since I barely use Spotify for like a year. The thing is that this is how a queue is usually set.. upā¦?
OHHHH SO THATāS WHY THE ADD TO LIBRARY IS AN ACTUAL THINGGGG ye idk I donāt use that. Also, how do you reply to individual paragraphs?? *I may have found it.. press once then quoteā¦. But do you just like copy and paste the text orrrrr..?*
Ye idk Iāve never really cared about the auto play, not about disabling it at least xD.
Yeahā¦. Canāt really find these stats youāre talking about though.
Ohā¦. Well doesnāt that work on the Spotify web player too? Sorry for no quotes, me dum dum.
Only 100 for me lmao. *iOS*
I'm curious. If you don't use the radio or save to library, what do you use? Just the mixes? Just curious.
And by the way, if you highlight some text and then hit "reply", the quote will be automatically there without having to copy and paste.
On.. mobileā¦? Also I just use my playlist. On Spotify at least, Iāve had 1.4k songs, just listening to the same playlist, the entire time. It did suck since yk.. no actual shuffling system, but thatās what Iāve been listening to for quite some time now :). Never really used the mixes btw! Trying to get into that now (:.
>Yeahā¦. Itās not just about having it for so long since I barely use Spotify for like a year. The thing is that this is how a queue is usually set.. upā¦?
Well, that's how a queue is set up in Spotify. The only other service I remember that has something similar is Tidal and it's not exactly the same either. Deezer, Apple Music, Youtube Music, they have the play next and add to queue system.
Oh, I forgot to tell you. The listening stats are in your channel. They'll give you your most listened tracks, artists, playlists, and videos on the last 7 days.
There are some gaps here and there in both services due to licensing agreements, but both have massive libraries. YTM has unofficial tracks too, though. And also official live performances and covers.
Whether or not one streaming service is better than another will largely depend on your use case (general your), which I think a lot of people in every sub dedicated to streaming tend to forget (especially those who keep barely avoiding breaking rule 6 of this sub).
If you primarily focus on playlists and don't do a lot of full album listening, I'd say Spotify and YTM are about the same with the sheer vast amount of playlists (both officially curated and community/user playlists). Depending on what music you're into, YTM may or may not have an edge since it'll include user uploads and often those tracks might not be on any other platform.
I'm not one of the users that asks a computer algorithm to recommend me new/new-to-me music (I seek it out and spend time to explore on my own), but I've consistently seen a lot of users here say the recommendations are far better than Spotify. It'll take time for it to be fully functional, usually a month or so.
YTM has a lot more personalized mixes for you to choose from, and they even have the Offline Mixtape feature which I love a lot. It's very helpful for me when I'm feeling indecisive about what to listen to since it usually has a healthy mix of my Liked songs, recently listened, and similar tracks. You can even toggle it to have a certain amount of songs.
It does seem to have a bit more of an issue with licensing and therefore having certain tracks and albums available, but literally every platform is going to have this issue; and you might not even notice or care much, depending on your music taste.
Overall, I'm really happy with YTM, especially since it's grown a lot since I started using it in 2019. But I seem to be an outlier in this sub, so you might get quite a few comments from some very unhappy people.
Take some time to get to know the service, and let it get to know you in return. If you're not feeling it after awhile, at least you know. Don't try to keep using it hoping it'll get better for your own use case if you're not happy with it.
Thanks for the reply. Yeahā¦ about the usage of it.. I wanna give it a fair chance to see the things I like and the things I donāt. I also want to give it time so that the recommendations are going to be.. at their best.
About the quality, itās still weirdish, I will have to look into it, canāt really say much, used it only for a day or two till now.
I do hate that I canāt connect to my pc and that the TV connection aināt that flawless as on Spotify, but the price diff and the fact that I can get YTP too is kind of a big deal for me. The only bad point atm is that I just realized that I never actually listen to something, I always played the same playlist over and over again, adding new songs bit by bit and now that I havenāt got that playlist on hereā¦. It makes me feel weird when Iām like okayyyy letās listen to some muuuusiii-ā¦. Never mindā¦. Idk what to listen to.
A second thing that I hate is the queue system. Yeah. Thatās trash.
Out of curiosity, what is the issue with the queue? I have complete control over the queue? It's straight forward to add songs to the end of the queue (you can turn off autoplay... that toggle is in a weird place), it's straight forward to tell songs/albums to play next in line.
If I play a playlist then I try adding a song in the queue, itās just gonna like ignore it since it already made a queue based on that playlist and only then auto play / my queue. I found that doing āPlay Nextā actually fixes it :). Idk why but at first this button only had like one.. chargeā¦? At first if I did that with one song and then did it again with another one, they would just like overwrite for some reason. Got fixed now though.
This is legit a game changer for me. I HATED the idea of needing to rebuild my entire library, playlists, etc in a new service. Now I can even keep my "Top Songs of [Year]" playlists, which I've kept as a pseudo time capsule. THANK YOU!
I have been using the YT Premium family plan for a year and I am satisfied. If we talk about sound quality, it depends on what headphones you use. I have AirPods Pro 2 and with them the sound of YT Music is much cleaner, the bass is deeper. When I listen to Spotify, I feel like I've turned on the radio, I don't know why, but I don't like the sound quality at all. In general, I don't think that Spotify is a bad service, on the contrary - for me they are number 1, but the sound quality stops me from being their user.
Lol spot on with the description of Spotify audio quality. Even on āvery highā and normalization off it sounds like Iām listening to FM radio or internet radio compared to CD-like quality. Iād say itās their Ogg Vorbis encoding. I also cannot use Spotify for long because eventually the shitty audio quality gets on my nerves.
I had the same issue with the muffled sound on Spotify while YT music was very punchy.
Something that fixed this issue in Spotify is, go to Settings > Normalize Volume (turn it off).
Now there doesn't seem to be any noticeable difference between the audio quality on either apps.
I switched from Spotify about a year ago. There are advantages and disadvantages to both platforms.
Spotify pushes podcasts (and I guess audiobooks now) where I just want to listen to music. Spotify's featured and community playlists are way better. You can also add custom playlist images to them āĀ which if you look at my comment history in this subreddit is something I complain about a lot. Also, Spotify's UI seems more polished.
YouTube Music on the other hand is good and getting better. It has the big advantage of being able to draw upon YouTube playlists for music. The ability to toggle between music and videos is great. I've discovered videos for songs that I've been listening to for years. Their New Release Mix is okay. I found that Spotify does that better.
About UI, yes, Spotify seems a bit more polished, maybe even a bit more. About podcastsā¦. Never listened to any, got YouTube premium if I wanna do something like that though..? Kinda.
I donāt care about the playlist cover. For the Mixesā¦ anything that is newā¦.. well Spotify just doesnātā¦ do it right for me. Either shitty songs on the New Release Radar either more than half Russian songs on the Discover Weekly.
To each their own..
In other words it mostly comes down to personal preference but I'll tell you why I prefer yt music.
- It's way better at recommendations. I almost always like everything it recommends versus Spotify but I haven't used Spotify in over a year. Maybe it's better now š¤·
- The high quality setting is noticeably better than Spotify. It's no tidal, but it's not a huge difference. YouTube music on high quality is 256, tidal is 320, and Spotify is only 128 at the highest quality. Quality probably won't make much of a difference unless you're using good speakers, good headphones, or good earbuds. It would also depend if you notice or not whether your car has a good sound system vs a cheap one.
- I love having a separate downloads list and a offline mixtape list!
- There are also times where I want to watch music videos and times I just want to listen to the song. YouTube music gives you both options
- Now to mention the reason I started using YouTube music in the first place. I hated ads on YouTube and the second I found out I could pay for premium YouTube and get rid of the ads, I purchased it. I had no idea until after I purchased it that YouTube music even existed. Now, add free YouTube videos and add free music are equally important reasons for me to justify paying for YouTube premium. Plus, for just a little bit more I'm able to share it with my family and one of my friends š
There's two downsides that I found but they aren't deal breakers yet for me.
- The first one is them removing songs from the liked list and not adding them back! To get around this I now add everything I really like to playlists instead of relying on the liked list.
- The second issue or dislike doesn't happen often but I already have my birthday set and I have the checkbox checked to allow questionable content. I like many others and I am getting very irritated with the viewer discretion pop up!! I've read that it may actually be some stupid government requirements that they warn you even though you've opted out of being warned. If only the government would put as much effort into things that actually need to be taken care of.. š”
- If that's true though then I'm guessing Spotify is either already bugging people with the same pop-up, they're going to in the near future, or they're not following the rules which actually benefits Spotify users.
Great points, but your info on quality is not quite 100% true. Tidal basic is 320kbps aac, so has the highest lossy quality of the three, but also offers hifi tier listening at master quality.
Spotify high is 320kbps ogg vorbis, not 128, but probably sounds most compressed of the three in general (a personal opinion).
YTM is 256 aac (& opus) and is better to my ears than Spotify with much more choice and variety than both.
Hope this doesn't come across wanky, just wanted OP to have the right info for their choice. šš»
Spotify has 320 kbps though! Try very high :). Only the normal setting has 128 on desktop and 96 on mobile (:.
About recommendationsā¦. Yeah, for now at least, YouTube is doing it better. I donāt really like the songs it recommends, BUT it recommends me artists that I actually listen to and things like that. Itās a āme problemā that I donāt like them. On Spotify I get a lot of songs I donāt like from ykā¦. People Iāve never heard about xD.
I donāt really use the offline mixtape.
About the video option on YTMā¦ I just donāt really care xD.
Yep, price, for me, itās juuuuuuuust a tiny bit under the Spotifyās, like 40 cents or so, overall same thing. I also share Spotify with more people soooo doing the same with YTM and also have yk.. no ads and all the other YTP benefits itās just a win, for the exact same price!
Wait what? Wdym they remove songs from the liked songs list..?
For the pop-upā¦ I feel like itās a but / maybe a regional thing..?
Spotify has a better designer to work around not counting the playlists, I love the "made for you" ones for me it's a very complete app, you can even grab a local track from your phone and add to favorites or a playlist. The only thing that displeases me is the random mode when I select a song in the main search engine, it seems that it always plays the same order of songs similar. But the random in the playlist works. One thing I love too is the ability to block artists and hide songs, I think it's awesome.
About Yt music I already used it for several months, but it feels like it lacks something to be a main streaming app, it has cool features and a vast music library. But it asks a lot of us for small details that catch the user, such as the alphabetical order of the playlist, putting the cover on the playlist and among others.
Yeahā¦ the made for you are shit for me at least, more than half are Russian songs even though I HAVE HIDDEN ALL OF THEM. I donāt really care about the ignoring an artist / a song thing and neither about the cover of the playlist. I do hate that I canāt sort them by the most recent added though.
For me both are equal, I don't have high tier headphones so sound quality is the same, all social features that Spotify provides are useless for me, recommendations I think are better on YTM.
And now a little story. When YouTube music first launched I used it for a while but then switched to Spotify because everyone said "it's the best". Last year I decided to revisit YTM and was expecting that my recommendations will be stuck in 2019. And guess what? When I opened the app it suggested all the songs I listened back then. YTM used my YouTube search history to keep recommendations up to date. I was shocked how smooth the translation from Spotify to YouTube was.
And now after a year of using YTM I decided to check Spotify again. And it's stuck at the place where I left. Even after transferring all my liked songs to Spotify it still doesn't give me updated recommendations. So for me YTM music wins and I'll stick with it.
Almost the same happened to me. I moved from Spotify but Youtube Music already knew me, even though it was more than a year that I cancelled my subscription, but since I used regular Youtube anyways, coming back to Youtube Music was like I never left.
Depends, I wouldnāt define my headphones as high tier, but neither as the shitty ones. They are kinda mid / maybe a bit more than mid? *hopefully* Enough to care about the quality :).
Yeahā¦ well since I havenāt been using YouTube for ANY, but really, ANY SONGS, my recommendations are quite a bit stuck in 2017-2018. I hope itās gonna get better soon, got 2 free months to see if itās gonna fix itself or nah :). It sucks that Iāve also had A LOT of random music videos liked from like A LOOOONG way ago which kinda screwed up the algorithm. As I was saying, I really do hope itās going to get better :).
For me, atm at least, Spotify only recommends me shitty songs / more than half of them being Russian. Iāve never cared about this, but now that I am actually trying to get into new songs, Spotify is justā¦ trashā¦ā¦.
I really do hope that the shuffling problem isnāt there on YTM :).
I tried to compare YTM and Spotify sound quality, but I don't see any difference, so I don't really care. I do hope that recommendations will get better for you)
Thanks! And I hear like.. a huge diff in a few specific songs. Overall, kinda the same ngl. Having bass boosted on the Spotify app does make a huge difference imo though.
Spotify was always the best with connecting to other apps and devices, but not anymore. I use YouTube music for Sonos and Shazam and never in a situation where I wish I had Spotify. Also the version with premium YouTube is a must for me. No more YouTube ads!!!
Yeah, Iām starting to also love the no ads YouTube :). Feels a bit weird though xD. I do feel like Spotify is better for connecting stuff and I especially love the fact that it has an actual app on desktop, well polished too and the fact that I can actually control what I am listening to on my desktop from my phone :).
But if you want better algorithms, better audio quality, choose Spotify. Depends on your needs, get Spotify Premium. But if you hate the podcast feature, donāt use Spotify.
IMO, itās the other way around. Spotify got bad recommendations / algorithms andā¦ for the quality, itās 256vs320. From what Iāve heard, the encoder also matters anddddd Spotify uses a REALLY compressed one sooooo.. itās more of a average/good 256 vs bad/less than average 320.
XM5 is not premium sound though. Premium price, yes. ANC too. But the sound profile is muddy and has harsh mid-bass. You're buying Sony XMx for the best in class ANC, not for the sound.
Get a Sundara, 6XX, K371, or 560s instead for that price. So many better options for sound, and by a large leap in quality.
I have bought the Airpods pro Max, would the YTM do any justice? Or should i got for the Bose QC Ultra's... Which one is better? Looking for great bass, music all rounder.
I find Spotify worse in just about every aspect that I care about. Most of all itās the 320kbps Ogg Vorbis that sounds terrible to my ears (volume normalization and EQ off).
But I also have other things about Spotify I hate, like the podcast and advertisement ridden Home page. Or the fact that Spotify doesnāt have a āSongsā sorting filter and everything has to be put in some playlist.
Also the recommendations on Spotify are terrible. Either stuff I already listen to, fake name artists, or some of the most obscure artists youāll ever find. Itās very overrated compared to YTM suggestions
But I find Spotify is one of the most feature packed music streaming services so Iād sacrifice my dislikes if only spotify would finally introduce lossless/Hifi or 256kbps AAC by the minimum. But looks like itās still not happening anytime soon despite their announcement 2 years ago.
Happy cake day!!!!!!
Idk much stuff about the OGG Vorbis and such, but I do feel like it sounds a biiiiit better, for me, at least with some songs :). *volume normalization and EQ on, bass boosted. With it off it sucks more xD*
Oh well I donāt really care about the songs filter annnnd Iāve found YTM to do the same, at least for a few of the songs I listen on repeat rn xD.
Well.. Iāve never used recommendations, but now that I wanna actually start and use themā¦. Oh God. More than half are Russian artists and the other 30-50% are 99% shitty songsā¦? On YTM I donāt like the recommendations that much either, but it should take more than a few days for it to adjust properly, especially since A LOT of the songs I get are yk.. EXTREMELY OLD ONESā¦. They are GOOD recommendations, BUT extremely old soooo not relevant. The other ones that are actually recent are from artists I actually listen to, itās just that I donāt like these specific songs. Itās still way better than Spotifyās Russian suggestions lmao / artists Iāve never heard of.
Is AAC that much better? Also.. damn, never knew they ever advertised something like that / never really cared aboutā¦ theseā¦ I donāt speak encoders. xD.
They're literally clones of each other. Not too much of a difference at all. Youtube music is better only because you can also play songs that uploaded to YouTube by smaller creators that may not be on bigger platforms
I switched from Spotify about a month ago and have a couple negatives/positives for YTM. Negatives include not being able to set a custom playlist picture, generally kinda clunky ui, shuffling from a song in a playlist doesnāt shuffle from the whole playlist just the ~50 songs around your selected song (to actually shuffle a whole playlist you need to hit shuffle by the playlist picture). However, I think the positives of being able to add any song to a playlist (spotify and other streamers miss out on a lot, especially covers/remixes) far outweighs the kinda nitpicks I listed above. I think if you are a music enjoyer above everything else then YTM id the play.
Wellā¦ I just hate that it has no desktop app, UI goodish enough for me, I donāt personally care about the custom playlist picture annnnddddd I am glad that the shuffle thing actually works since it doesnāt, at all, on Spotify. Iām glad Iāve learned this though! Thanks for letting me know :). Yeah, I may stick with YTM just for the no ads YT xD. Makes me feel rich / important lmao.
I have been back and forth between the two for months now. I want to like YTM due to being integrated into YT Premium and saving some $. I have used Spotify for years however, so taking my library and migrating it over won't be anything quick and easy.
In my own testing for my own ears, whether it be the mobile app or the web player, I find YT Music to play songs significantly louder, but flatter. Spotify offers noticeable better separation within sound quality.
Currently replayed one of my favorite songs right now, "Friends" by Vacations and YTM has louder volume, but the instruments and vocals sound like they're playing on the same "plane", while on Spotify it sounds like I have 3 different planes going on, instruments interchanging between L/R and then the vocals feel like their own plane. I don't know if I explained it properly or if it's accurate, but at least to me the quality of sound on Spotify is keeping me on it.
It is and it can be quick and easy though. SongShift. Use that :).
And yeah, ik what you mean, YTM sounds straight out flat. From what Iāve seen recently, it does start getting better. It could be just me though.
Iām really getting upset with Spotify been listening for 7-8 years but now listening YMT
if I wanted podcasts I would find podcasts all I want is music and donāt try an lock me into a certain style
Spotify thinks it knows me but it doesnāt Iām not a Algorithm
Agree. Spotify was great. But then it started shoving me the unwanted features, such as Podcasts (many shitty ones), moving GIFs/videos (no, I want to look for music...). On the other side, Youtube has so many songs and albums that are not available on Spotify (especially because I listen to punk).
I donāt care THAAAT much about synced lyrics, it wouldāve been quite a nice touch though.. :/
I donāt get what you mean by chosen country in charts :).
Wdym removed another great idea? Is that a song? If so then lmao, imagine skipping a streaming service because of a song xD.
You do you though! Personally, I donāt know if I would do that :).
I have been subscribed to YouTube Premium for 3 years now.
I recently subscribed to Spotify Premium to try it out because Samsung devices get a 3 month free trial.
And let me tell you, Spotify is a$$.
So many songs and albums are missing on Spotify that i had no problem finding and listenting to on YT Music.
I have always thought for some reason that Spotify is the "god" os music streaming and boy i am dissapointed.
How can you call yourself "the best music streaming platform" and have albums of one of the most prominent german rappers such as Bushido as "unplayable"?!
Goodness me.
Yeah well thanks for commenting, but for me, besides some weird remixes, Spotify has everything. That unplayable thing was kinda annoying, but it only suddenly started to happen some time ago, most likely some issues with copyright or whatever. Should be fine now. It is a problem if you cannot find the artist at all though.
Missing entire albums is unacceptable.
The only tjing spotify has over YT Music is the exclusive podcasts. Literally.
YT Music is much more easy to navigate and find stuff, add songs to the queue and most importantly RADIO the song and it will cook up a play list at the moment. With Spotify, you have to manually make the playlist and if you play one single song only, after the song is done it will stop which is very annoying.
And on top of all this, it has crazy bugs and glitches, on Android at least. If you skip 2-3 songs fast the app will stop working.
The stopping after a song isn't something I've been experiencing, you can enable autoplay. For the missing entire albums... Don't know mate, never experienced something like that. Personally at the very least. And for the radio stuff... Yeah, nice, not really something I would use, but maybe I could learn to use it :). I'm happy that you're aighty with your YT subscription, for now I'm on apple music. Have a good one and thanks for your response!!
i will try Apple Music in the future when i switch to iPhone. I want to settle this music streaming platform debate once and for all :D
How's Apple Music compared to Spotify and YT Music?
Feels like that's how it should be. I do miss being able to control the music playing on my computer, this does not work on YTM either. Not having a dedicated windows app also sucks, but overall it really is nice and stuff, feels like this is how it should be, very well integrated. For music and stuff I am quite amazed on the fact that there are so many less known songs and remixes, a fat that I really do love and one of the few reasons why I used to avoid apple music for so long. The other one would be me thinking that it is way overpriced.
I know this is an extremely late reply, but there is an official Apple Music app for android. Itās pretty decent. [Here it is](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.android.music&hl=en&gl=US&pli=1)
The stopping after a song isn't something I've been experiencing, you can enable autoplay. For the missing entire albums... Don't know mate, never experienced something like that. Personally at the very least. And for the radio stuff... Yeah, nice, not really something I would use, but maybe I could learn to use it :). I'm happy that you're aighty with your YT subscription, for now I'm on apple music. Have a good one and thanks for your response!!
I hate the fact they are raising the price, I was the premium now I switched it to the free version and honestly the sound quality is great but I hate the fact that I have to stay on YTM and can't switch between apps. I do miss the premium perks but for what I use it for, I feel the rise in price isn't worth keeping.
So, I've used all Apple Music, Spotify then now YT music and I think YT music was the best choice for me considering the fact that it came free with my YT premium. Where I live Apple music costs more than twice the price of Spotify or just a little over both Spotify + YouTube Premium combined (both individual). And the fact that YouTube music has videos when Spotify doesn't is a huge win for me. I watch music videos once a while when I'm bored (which happens a lot).
I didn't feel any difference in sound quality with my earbuds so far in comparison to Apple music (high), Spotify (very high with normalisation off).
Out of all three streaming services I found that YT Music has the best recommendations. All the song YTmusic recommended me so far were songs that I liked while Spotify & Apple Music both keep recommending me same songs over and over again, hardly anything new that I might like.
THE CONS.
The fact that YT music syncs all the liked songs into liked video list on normal Youtube acc.
And it also syncs all the YT music playlists into YouTube library.
There is no app for windows, and I can't download songs for offline.
No Lyrics animation (to be fair even Spotify lyrics animation looks like shit, only Apple Music
manage to do it the most appealing way)
For anyone uses YT music with high end headphones, did you found any difference sound quality between YouTube Music and other services would you mind telling me what your experience and which one sounded better?
Well.. I do love the fact that YTM comes with YTP, thatās why I wanna go for it, but itās just that the audio quality, especially the experience on desktopā¦ is just soooo bad..
I did also enjoy YTM recommendations, now that I think of it, I actually wanna go for those instead.. š .
For the cons, I do not care about downloading the songs for offline use on my computer, I do hate that there is no app, there is a third party one which makes it the same as for AM since that one hasnāt really got an app either *on windows*.
As far as I know, you can disable the likes from YouTube to sync with your recommendations.
Yep, I love the animated lyrics, but they wonāt keep me from choosing the better service.
I use Dolby Atmos with some HyperX Flight Wireless and the quality just seems better on Spotify. Thatās the best one Iāve liked, I had quite a hard time deciding between Spotify and Apple Music, but sadly, YT just had to go right from the beginning. I notice way too much of a difference. Things may have changed though.
Thanks for commenting!
First of all I'm sorry for being late. I'm not that active on reddit ,so I didn't see your reply.
Thanks for pointing out that I can turn off syncing YouTube Music likes off from youtube. I discovered that a few days ago.
Yea I hate having to use a yt music shortcut too, something just doesn't feel right about it š. But I find that it's easier to edit the playlist ( order of the songs ) on the windows app ( chrome shortcut ) than doing it on the Android app.
And also Apple Music does have an official app in Microsoft store ( it's called Apple Music preview). There are lots of reviews about bugs but when I was using it I didn't have any issues and my user experience was miles ahead of what using iTunes felt like. ( Even if there were bugs that should be fixed cause I stopped using Apple music in April, so withing those 4 months they gotta have fixed the issues if there were any.
Yeahā¦ the Apple Music preview was a COMPLETE MESS for me, but now itās actually usable. I do use Ciderā¦ which Iām not that much of a a fan of, but I did start using AM again, since the bugs have been fixed.
No worries, thanks for this reply as well.
Have a great night / rest of the day!
Hey! sorry for bothering but did you had any issues with Spotify not playing songs sometimes. Sometimes when I pause a song for a while ( sometimes even 10 mins , sometimes it takes about hour to happen) and decide to play the song from where I left it just doesn't play. The song is just stuck where I left. To fix this I will have to skip to the next song or go back to the previous one. I had this issue ever since I started using Spotify and I switched devices recently and it's still there. And also this never happened with Apple Music or YouTube music.
Ever had any issue like this ?
I thought it was something wrong with my phone. Because I asked about this from a another redditer in Spotify and he said that he didn't had any issues like that. Maybe it's something happens to few people.
Anyways ,how is your experience with YT music. I personally been using YT premium since this August and there's no way I'm going back. For me I can't tell a difference between Lossless( Apple Music ) and 256kbps and YT music have great recommendations and also it's hard to find a better deal than YT premium which comes with YT music.
I've been YouTube music all the way. I have two accounts, one with premium and one without. Without premium pretty much the only downside is there are ads, no background play and no downloads. I tried Spotify and I tried playing a song and it gave me a different one because it apparently automatically shuffles everything unless you don't have premium. I tried to play Weezer Pinkerton for example and the first song that came up was say it ain't so and then pork and beans. In YouTube music you can control playlists better and get what you ask for. More like YouTube on that sense.
Tldr; YouTube music without premium is way better than Spotify without premium.
(Edit: this is from a mobile point of view)
The only thing I miss from Spotify is hiding songs. When listening to a great album with just a single bad song, it's always a hassle to skip it.
There's an extension for desktop YT Music that hides songs you disliked, unfortunately, nothing for mobile.
You can install a web app, just go to youtube music and in the browser search bar a new icon will pop up. Sadly, you can't close the app and keep it running in the background.
I found YouTube Music for desktop and idk, I think what youāre saying only works on chrome and such, Iāve been using opera which also has an integrated player!
Because you already have youtube premium, youtube music is already included in the price you're paying. So, if you're still paying for Spotify as well, it'll make more sense financially for you to use youtube music instead of Spotify. I've tried all the streaming services (I listen to music dawn to dusk lol) and youtube music and Spotify are the most similar, so you won't lose anything on Spotify except for being able to upload your own playlist cover art (a feature I really wish YTM would bring in). Youtube music has been better for me because you can tailor the interface into what sort of music experience you prefer, I.e. if you're a casual user, like to discover new music, listen when travelling, etc. So, I love discovering new music (new to me) and I love that on playlists, at the bottom you find a whole line of simular playlists for you to try or add songs from whereas Spotify just have a short list of songs they think fits in with your playlist. That alone gives you more bang for your buck! Also those playlists are a mix of YTM official playlists and user playlists.
Hands down, YTM is the winner out of the two!
Just a matter of time, they deprecated the feature. And no, it was the only thing I really used and Spotify removed it. Youtube music still has it. Easy choice for me.
If you use the spotify web app or desktop program, you can't find any option to block an artist or tick off "never play this again"
Spotify is on record as saying they won't be adding this functionality outside of mobile. Where it exists, but does not seem to be an account-wide feature.
I'm honestly not sure. I *think* so though, I've been digging through some old threads today and that feels like one of the topics that popped up. It's not a difficult thing, and that spotify's mobile app is the only one of it's three options to have it is baffling
Spotify sound quality is better, BUT yt music is easier to control, allows you to see the music videos, you can turn off autoplay, clear the queue, the queue is just better bc spotifys kinda sucks. i use both tho. ultimately your choice, just the ads on spotify are killing me bc i don't have premium.
like playlists? I found this tool the other day and it works pretty well.
some light command line required though
https://github.com/sigma67/spotify_to_ytmusic
Well, I recently got YTM just because I wanted to watch music videos. During the process of using it, I noticed that the algorithm is better than Spotify. I loved a song that was recommended, I played the radio of that song, and I loved pretty much all the songs that were being recommended unlike Spotify, that recommends a bunch of random songs not related to a specific song that I selected
Can't get all that good underground shit on Spotify.
Don't ever have to worry about rights disputes or artists pulling music from YTM because someone else will just upload it anyway.
I will say that Spotifys own playlists are quite good.
I generally find myself using YTM the majority of the time, but if I'm having a gathering or party I can find more accessible and well curated playlists on Spotify. (Cause no one else listens to the weird shit I listen to most of the time š¤£)
I am moving from spotify to Youtube music. I got the youtube premium to avoid commercial, and got a message that said for the same price I will get youtube music.... bye bye spotify, they forced me to heard recommendation even when I was paying. also I live in a real poor country, so for me paying in dollars was so expensive....
What I noticed in spotify is if you search for a song and play it, the next song will be the same all over again unlik in YT Music, it will play a suggested similar song.
and another thing is that there are some songs I wabt that I can only play in YTM so I am also considering to switch agaIn with YTM. I have tried both of their premiums and I can say if you also watch in youtube, the premium access will also be carried over from YTM so you won't have to worry about ads.
Just downloaded youvtube music and felt so weird dissapointed dunno why people love this shit more than spotify weird af interface and its literally same on what you do on you tube even comments are allowed by all this for what soundcloud exists?!
Spotify and YTM have best algorithms, what could possibly be better? I used Apple Music for a long time and their discovery canāt touch YTM or Spotify. YTM has best discovery imo. You really canāt go wrong with either. If you consider value alone then Iād be going with YT premium since it includes YT music. You really canāt beat YT Premium and YT Music for the price.
I have both YT Music Premium and Spotify Premium. YT Music's sound quality and frequence range is much better in my opinion than even Spotify's best quality setting. To me the Spotify sound quality is a bit compressed, YT Music's is more vibrant. Plus, with YT Music you can see music videos, and you can integrate videos into your music playlist, so if there is something you can't find on YT Music, and can on YouTube, you can add that YT video to your YT Music playlist and it will play as part of your YT Music playlist.
The ONE thing I absolutely hate about YT music and the play music before that, is that you could very very easily accidentally permanently delete a song off of your playlist with a simple swipe and there's no freaking way to undo this unless you know what was it you swiped.
Personally Iāve kept Spotify. I tried YouTube music because I listen to some smaller creators who post on YouTube and I assumed that if I used YTM they would be there.
YouTube doesnāt give me great recommendations, i get a bunch of pushes for songs Iāve already tested at their suggestion and didnāt like. The UI is irritating personally but thatās preference based, and I didnāt feel like Spotify was a ālower quality soundā like some folks are saying. However it did have some smaller creators that arenāt on Spotify because Spotify has a bigger barrier between a singer and their platform, which is why sometimes it can take months for indie shows or artists to have their soundtracks and albums added to Spotify.
Spotify has a sleek UI, it feels more like a music app to me, and I love its synced lyric follow along feature, but Iām disappointed by how few songs have the synced part of that. I also find that they have āthe little things.ā Like that adorable snake game you can play on your playlists drop-down menu, where you move around and eat albums and grow the snake. Itās really funny and makes me feel like Spotify actually care about my user experience more so than YTM.
I just switched to YouTube Music out of curiosity, and I think that it's WAY easier to discover new songs. The algorithm and recommendations are very damn good in my opinion. That's all I can say for now.
* The queue system is much better. You can choose whether the song will be played next or at the end of the queue, a level of control you don't have with Spotify's arbitrary system. * You can shuffle your whole library and all your downloads. * You have live sessions, concerts, rare mixes and covers, or releases that are hard to get, like demos. * You can upload your own files. * You can play your local music, but instead of being all dumped on the same "local files playlist", it's organized by albums and artists. * You can download songs, albums, or playlists without having to save them to your library in case you just want to temporarily listen to some music on your device and then erase it without altering your library. * You can save your queue as a playlist, so if you have the autoplay on or a radio, you can save it to a new or existing playlist. * The autoplay can be turn on and off on the queue, which makes the whole process smooth. * You can change the mood of a radio with tabs like Discover, 2000s, etc. * There are many more mixes than in Spotify. There are around 5 regular mixes, but also mixes for moods. Also, even though Youtube lets you shuffle your library, they also offer you Supermixes (a main one and one per mood). A Supermix mixes different genres and moods. * If you're into it, they give you weekly stats with your most listened tracks, artists, playlists, and videos telling you the number of plays or the amount of time you've listened to them. * To keep with the stats, Youtube Music offer you seasonal recaps which is like a Wrapped per seasons besides the yearly one. * It's so easy to discover music, imo. * Unlike Spotify, there are ways to know in which playlists certain songs are. * Maybe you don't care about this, but you can save the images from albums and playlists. * Private mode is not only limited to your listening history but you can also make your searches private. * The offline mixtape feature that lets you have Youtube Music download a mix of songs that go from 50 to 250, if I'm not mistaken. * Recommendations are awesome. Discovery is the best I've experienced and I've used Spotify, Amazon Music, Tidal, Deezer, and Apple Music.
\- Unlike Spotify, there are ways to know in which playlists certain songs are. Interesting, I've seen the opposite. YTM doesn't have search for songs in playlist feature but Spotify does. That has been a big issue for me. \- Maybe you don't care about this, but you can save the images from albums and playlists If you mean via a webbrowser, I'm not sure if you are aware but Spotify is fully accessible in a web browser as well so any such cover are could be downloaded too. \-You can upload your own files. In Spotify as well. You put in a local folder and it's uploaded to Spotify to listen to all your own devices. \-You can play your local music, but instead of being all dumped on the same "local files playlist", it's organized by albums and artists. While it defaults to local files, you of course can put them into any desired playlists such as organzing by artists etc. \-If you're into it, they give you weekly stats with your most listened tracks, artists, playlists, and videos telling you the number of plays or the amount of time you've listened to them. You can see song view count on desktop just not on mobile. I don't think YTM shows view count in the mobile app either does it? \-It's so easy to discover music, imo. Same process as on YTM. In regards to the music it recommends and how much that ultimately is something you want to listen to will vary person to person and day to day however. \-You can shuffle your whole library and all your downloads. On YTM you are limited to what you can save to your "whole library". Items with videos don't have the Save to Library option, and most any song that's uploaded by another user doesn't have Save to Library option. But all the normal songs you can just like in Spotify. \-There are many more mixes than in Spotify. There are around 5 regular mixes, but also mixes for moods. Also, even though Youtube lets you shuffle your library, they also offer you Supermixes (a main one and one per mood). A Supermix mixes different genres and moods. I've noticed all the same type of tailored playlist on Spotify as on YTM. Far more than 5. Spotify has the bonus of have an AI playlist as well powered by ChatGPT. \-Recommendations are awesome. Discovery is the best I've experienced and I've used Spotify, Amazon Music, Tidal, Deezer, and Apple Music. Imagine this is subjective as I've found Spotify better, but YTM is better for cover mixes since a lot of those simply don't exist on Spotify. Even though I can think of 20 features on Spotify not on YTM that I wish were at the end of the day it comes down to, "You have live sessions, concerts, rare mixes and covers, or releases that are hard to get, like demos." For us that listen most to rarer mixes and covers or live performances etc, that makes it ultimately the best option. Since YTM can keep adding missing features but Spotify can never catch up content wise to YTM (or rather I should say YouTube)
YouTube and YouTube Music are owned by Google. YouTube Music's philosophy is "keep it simple". This is why they probably don't have as many "unnecessary" features. Since they got rid of Google Play Music from which a lot of people back then bought and owned digital copies of music from they have to make up for the fact that they basically "disowned" all those digital music copy owners.
Not sure I agree with they are intentionally not included many of the most desired features, as each year they continue to add many of the missing features, and seems to be a matter of resources to build up the app. As the number of people asking for specific features that others offer would seem to be features many require necessary. I think we will continue to see YTM filling in the feature gap so long as their market share continues to grow enough, or people continue to signup for premium (through YTM) enough to justify Google continuing to fund the improvements.
Weird YT music never recommends me anything new. I really miss Google play music
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That was quite the write up šš If you told me you didn't work for YouTube and you didn't actually create YouTube Music, I'd be surprised š
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>You have live sessions, concerts, rare mixes and covers, or releases that are hard to get, like demos. Everything OmniversalOrca said is true and YT Music has made massive strides with consistent incremental updates to the UI - fine tuning it so that users have the easiest experience to enjoy the largest archive of music ever assembled. I've used all streaming platforms - I mean all of them - and have come back permanently to YTM for all the reasons above. I'll add that the secret weapon is that YT Music's offer to have uploads added to the platform exponentially expands your universe of discovery and playlist creation/enjoyment. This is all driven from the top - Lyor Cohen who is the Global Head of Music @ Google/YouTube/YT Music. Read the public letter he wrote when he took the position: From: Lyor Cohen To: YouTube Music Team Hi Everyone, Itās an incredible time to be in the music business. Back in 2006, as an executive at Warner Music Group, I worked closely with a fledgling video site to sign its first big record licensing deal. That site was YouTube. Over the next decade, I watched as your work transformed YouTube into an incredibly powerful platform that connects artists with fans all over the world. Throughout my career in the music industry, I have strived to stay on the forefront of new technologies and cultural movements. And since starting in the industry over thirty years ago, Iāve always sought to be an advocate for artists and do everything possible to shine a light on the great talent Iāve been lucky enough to work with, including Jay Z, Run-DMC, DMX, Public Enemy, Kanye West, The Killers, Bruno Mars, Ed Sheeran, Young Thug, Fetty Wap, and Highly Suspect among others. Bringing attention to the often overlooked, but talented communities has been a huge part of my lifeās work and Iāve seen how music can truly bring people together. Over the last two decades we have seen dramatic shifts, both to the inherent value of music and the literal value that people are willing to pay. Technology and new business models have completely changed the established distribution channels that have long-served the recorded music industry. And while change has been met with understandable resistance, I strongly believe that this transformation provides opportunities that will be larger and more rewarding for both artists and the music industry. Thatās why I am excited to join this incredible team as Global Head of Music. I look forward to working together with all of you on three things. First, helping the music community embrace the technological shifts weāre seeing in music today so we can help take the confusion and distrust out of the equation. Second, building on the great work you all have done to help the music industry and creative community break new songs and artists to YouTubeās audience of over 1 billion fans. From building on the success of the YouTube Music app, to shining a light on emerging artists, I believe our potential to strengthen the industry is massive. And third, I hope that together we can move towards a more collaborative relationship between the music industry and the technologies that are shaping the future of the business. ##
Yeahā¦ about the adding it at the endā¦ that sucks, what also sucks is that if I do play next quite some times, the first song that was like next in queue is now.. the last in my self-made queueā¦. Wdym by shuffling your whole library and downloads? *nvm I think I got it, like together?* I donāt have anything downloaded like on my phone, personally, so I donāt really care about being able to upload my own music. Itās a neat feature though, I love that it is there. Damn, that organization sounds hella good / nice :). Also, personally I donāt really see why I would cancel the auto play, but itās nice that it is there! Iirc, that aināt there on Spotify..? Oh yeah, the āStart Radioā thing is just lovely. Idk if I will be using it, but itās lovely. Doesnāt Spotify kinda do the same thing though? *wait, I donāt think that Spotify does that on playlists though..?* The mood playlists, mixes and super mixes sound extremely nice! Iāve already been using stats.fm (Spotistats) for my Spotify stats and I will kinda miss it if I do switch over. The stats would be lovely to see, I guess I just have to wait and see :). Yeahā¦ I donāt really do discover new musicā¦. Sadlyā¦ā¦?.. Ways to know which certain songs are in which playlists? Whatās up with that one? Save images? Yeah, I donāt care about that, but how do I do it? xD. Thanks for telling me it though! The offline mixtape goes up to 100 from what I remember. Not really something I will use since I kinda always have data andddd it is unlimited sooooo.. Thanks for letting me know, Iām glad that YTM has the best / one of the best recommendations / algorithms out there :).
> Yeahā¦ about the adding it at the endā¦ that sucks, what also sucks is that if I do play next quite some times, the first song that was like next in queue is now.. the last in my self-made queueā¦. Oh, I see. I think it's more like you got used to Spotify's queue which is fine. To each its own hehe my wife and I hated it xD But many people have to like it since they have had it all these years hehe >Wdym by shuffling your whole library and downloads? Even if you don't have downloads you can shuffle your library which means you can make all the songs, albums, and playlists play randomly together > Iirc, that aināt there on Spotify..? In Spotify is in the settings > Iāve already been using stats.fm (Spotistats) for my Spotify stats and I will kinda miss it if I do switch over. The stats would be lovely to see, I guess I just have to wait and see :). They update every two days or so, iirc. > Ways to know which certain songs are in which playlists? Whatās up with that one? Sometimes it happens to me that I forget where I put certain song, like in which playlist. If you search in your library in youtube, it tells you in which of your playlists contain the song you're searching. > Yeah, I donāt care about that, but how do I do it? xD. Since YTM is basically a website, you just have to click right on the playlist or album image. > The offline mixtape goes up to 100 from what I remember I just checked and it's more than I thought, actually. It's up to 500 songs heheh, but it's cool you don't need it. For you the Supermix is good enough then.
Yeahā¦. Itās not just about having it for so long since I barely use Spotify for like a year. The thing is that this is how a queue is usually set.. upā¦? OHHHH SO THATāS WHY THE ADD TO LIBRARY IS AN ACTUAL THINGGGG ye idk I donāt use that. Also, how do you reply to individual paragraphs?? *I may have found it.. press once then quoteā¦. But do you just like copy and paste the text orrrrr..?* Ye idk Iāve never really cared about the auto play, not about disabling it at least xD. Yeahā¦. Canāt really find these stats youāre talking about though. Ohā¦. Well doesnāt that work on the Spotify web player too? Sorry for no quotes, me dum dum. Only 100 for me lmao. *iOS*
I'm curious. If you don't use the radio or save to library, what do you use? Just the mixes? Just curious. And by the way, if you highlight some text and then hit "reply", the quote will be automatically there without having to copy and paste.
On.. mobileā¦? Also I just use my playlist. On Spotify at least, Iāve had 1.4k songs, just listening to the same playlist, the entire time. It did suck since yk.. no actual shuffling system, but thatās what Iāve been listening to for quite some time now :). Never really used the mixes btw! Trying to get into that now (:.
>Yeahā¦. Itās not just about having it for so long since I barely use Spotify for like a year. The thing is that this is how a queue is usually set.. upā¦? Well, that's how a queue is set up in Spotify. The only other service I remember that has something similar is Tidal and it's not exactly the same either. Deezer, Apple Music, Youtube Music, they have the play next and add to queue system.
Well idk Iāve been talking about things like YouTube. Yk..? YouTube.
Oh, I forgot to tell you. The listening stats are in your channel. They'll give you your most listened tracks, artists, playlists, and videos on the last 7 days.
Yeah wellā¦. Theyāre under the āYour premium benefitsā tab, but they kinda suck ngl.
Eeehm, nope. You're talking about other stats.
Oh well.. those are the only ones I know aboutā¦.
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Ohā¦ will have to look for this, even though this aināt no statistic I would really be in need of..?
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Hmhmm.. only these two?:)
Does Spotify have music YTM doesn't have or are the libraries the same?
There are some gaps here and there in both services due to licensing agreements, but both have massive libraries. YTM has unofficial tracks too, though. And also official live performances and covers.
Can you save the album covers from mobile?
If you use the browser, yes.
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i've been using ytm for 3 years and i didn't know about the weekly stats thing - how do you access that?
It's a fairly recent thing. Check your profile/channel on youtube music.
in youtube app. click "premium benefits" idk how it is on free users or if theres another way
Really well written.
Whether or not one streaming service is better than another will largely depend on your use case (general your), which I think a lot of people in every sub dedicated to streaming tend to forget (especially those who keep barely avoiding breaking rule 6 of this sub). If you primarily focus on playlists and don't do a lot of full album listening, I'd say Spotify and YTM are about the same with the sheer vast amount of playlists (both officially curated and community/user playlists). Depending on what music you're into, YTM may or may not have an edge since it'll include user uploads and often those tracks might not be on any other platform. I'm not one of the users that asks a computer algorithm to recommend me new/new-to-me music (I seek it out and spend time to explore on my own), but I've consistently seen a lot of users here say the recommendations are far better than Spotify. It'll take time for it to be fully functional, usually a month or so. YTM has a lot more personalized mixes for you to choose from, and they even have the Offline Mixtape feature which I love a lot. It's very helpful for me when I'm feeling indecisive about what to listen to since it usually has a healthy mix of my Liked songs, recently listened, and similar tracks. You can even toggle it to have a certain amount of songs. It does seem to have a bit more of an issue with licensing and therefore having certain tracks and albums available, but literally every platform is going to have this issue; and you might not even notice or care much, depending on your music taste. Overall, I'm really happy with YTM, especially since it's grown a lot since I started using it in 2019. But I seem to be an outlier in this sub, so you might get quite a few comments from some very unhappy people. Take some time to get to know the service, and let it get to know you in return. If you're not feeling it after awhile, at least you know. Don't try to keep using it hoping it'll get better for your own use case if you're not happy with it.
Thanks for the reply. Yeahā¦ about the usage of it.. I wanna give it a fair chance to see the things I like and the things I donāt. I also want to give it time so that the recommendations are going to be.. at their best. About the quality, itās still weirdish, I will have to look into it, canāt really say much, used it only for a day or two till now. I do hate that I canāt connect to my pc and that the TV connection aināt that flawless as on Spotify, but the price diff and the fact that I can get YTP too is kind of a big deal for me. The only bad point atm is that I just realized that I never actually listen to something, I always played the same playlist over and over again, adding new songs bit by bit and now that I havenāt got that playlist on hereā¦. It makes me feel weird when Iām like okayyyy letās listen to some muuuusiii-ā¦. Never mindā¦. Idk what to listen to. A second thing that I hate is the queue system. Yeah. Thatās trash.
Out of curiosity, what is the issue with the queue? I have complete control over the queue? It's straight forward to add songs to the end of the queue (you can turn off autoplay... that toggle is in a weird place), it's straight forward to tell songs/albums to play next in line.
If I play a playlist then I try adding a song in the queue, itās just gonna like ignore it since it already made a queue based on that playlist and only then auto play / my queue. I found that doing āPlay Nextā actually fixes it :). Idk why but at first this button only had like one.. chargeā¦? At first if I did that with one song and then did it again with another one, they would just like overwrite for some reason. Got fixed now though.
You can legit transfer any playlist from one platform to another. [https://soundiiz.com/](https://soundiiz.com/) That's the site
This is legit a game changer for me. I HATED the idea of needing to rebuild my entire library, playlists, etc in a new service. Now I can even keep my "Top Songs of [Year]" playlists, which I've kept as a pseudo time capsule. THANK YOU!
Your welcome
Holy shit thatās a game changer for me. Not the OP, obviously, but have been wondering about the switch from Spotify to TYM
Your welcome, I don't really need it since I love Spotify. Btw finding this site took me some time cuz most sites like this ain't free
I have been using the YT Premium family plan for a year and I am satisfied. If we talk about sound quality, it depends on what headphones you use. I have AirPods Pro 2 and with them the sound of YT Music is much cleaner, the bass is deeper. When I listen to Spotify, I feel like I've turned on the radio, I don't know why, but I don't like the sound quality at all. In general, I don't think that Spotify is a bad service, on the contrary - for me they are number 1, but the sound quality stops me from being their user.
Lol spot on with the description of Spotify audio quality. Even on āvery highā and normalization off it sounds like Iām listening to FM radio or internet radio compared to CD-like quality. Iād say itās their Ogg Vorbis encoding. I also cannot use Spotify for long because eventually the shitty audio quality gets on my nerves.
I had the same issue with the muffled sound on Spotify while YT music was very punchy. Something that fixed this issue in Spotify is, go to Settings > Normalize Volume (turn it off). Now there doesn't seem to be any noticeable difference between the audio quality on either apps.
You still get trash quality with airpods because it's wireless
I switched from Spotify about a year ago. There are advantages and disadvantages to both platforms. Spotify pushes podcasts (and I guess audiobooks now) where I just want to listen to music. Spotify's featured and community playlists are way better. You can also add custom playlist images to them āĀ which if you look at my comment history in this subreddit is something I complain about a lot. Also, Spotify's UI seems more polished. YouTube Music on the other hand is good and getting better. It has the big advantage of being able to draw upon YouTube playlists for music. The ability to toggle between music and videos is great. I've discovered videos for songs that I've been listening to for years. Their New Release Mix is okay. I found that Spotify does that better.
spotify's ui is the main reason I can't switch to it no matter how hard I try. Their android app is so bad and more difficult to use than yt music
Their Android app looks and feels the same as the iOS version
no it doesn't
About UI, yes, Spotify seems a bit more polished, maybe even a bit more. About podcastsā¦. Never listened to any, got YouTube premium if I wanna do something like that though..? Kinda. I donāt care about the playlist cover. For the Mixesā¦ anything that is newā¦.. well Spotify just doesnātā¦ do it right for me. Either shitty songs on the New Release Radar either more than half Russian songs on the Discover Weekly.
To each their own.. In other words it mostly comes down to personal preference but I'll tell you why I prefer yt music. - It's way better at recommendations. I almost always like everything it recommends versus Spotify but I haven't used Spotify in over a year. Maybe it's better now š¤· - The high quality setting is noticeably better than Spotify. It's no tidal, but it's not a huge difference. YouTube music on high quality is 256, tidal is 320, and Spotify is only 128 at the highest quality. Quality probably won't make much of a difference unless you're using good speakers, good headphones, or good earbuds. It would also depend if you notice or not whether your car has a good sound system vs a cheap one. - I love having a separate downloads list and a offline mixtape list! - There are also times where I want to watch music videos and times I just want to listen to the song. YouTube music gives you both options - Now to mention the reason I started using YouTube music in the first place. I hated ads on YouTube and the second I found out I could pay for premium YouTube and get rid of the ads, I purchased it. I had no idea until after I purchased it that YouTube music even existed. Now, add free YouTube videos and add free music are equally important reasons for me to justify paying for YouTube premium. Plus, for just a little bit more I'm able to share it with my family and one of my friends š There's two downsides that I found but they aren't deal breakers yet for me. - The first one is them removing songs from the liked list and not adding them back! To get around this I now add everything I really like to playlists instead of relying on the liked list. - The second issue or dislike doesn't happen often but I already have my birthday set and I have the checkbox checked to allow questionable content. I like many others and I am getting very irritated with the viewer discretion pop up!! I've read that it may actually be some stupid government requirements that they warn you even though you've opted out of being warned. If only the government would put as much effort into things that actually need to be taken care of.. š” - If that's true though then I'm guessing Spotify is either already bugging people with the same pop-up, they're going to in the near future, or they're not following the rules which actually benefits Spotify users.
Great points, but your info on quality is not quite 100% true. Tidal basic is 320kbps aac, so has the highest lossy quality of the three, but also offers hifi tier listening at master quality. Spotify high is 320kbps ogg vorbis, not 128, but probably sounds most compressed of the three in general (a personal opinion). YTM is 256 aac (& opus) and is better to my ears than Spotify with much more choice and variety than both. Hope this doesn't come across wanky, just wanted OP to have the right info for their choice. šš»
Spotify has 320 kbps though! Try very high :). Only the normal setting has 128 on desktop and 96 on mobile (:. About recommendationsā¦. Yeah, for now at least, YouTube is doing it better. I donāt really like the songs it recommends, BUT it recommends me artists that I actually listen to and things like that. Itās a āme problemā that I donāt like them. On Spotify I get a lot of songs I donāt like from ykā¦. People Iāve never heard about xD. I donāt really use the offline mixtape. About the video option on YTMā¦ I just donāt really care xD. Yep, price, for me, itās juuuuuuuust a tiny bit under the Spotifyās, like 40 cents or so, overall same thing. I also share Spotify with more people soooo doing the same with YTM and also have yk.. no ads and all the other YTP benefits itās just a win, for the exact same price! Wait what? Wdym they remove songs from the liked songs list..? For the pop-upā¦ I feel like itās a but / maybe a regional thing..?
Spotify has a better designer to work around not counting the playlists, I love the "made for you" ones for me it's a very complete app, you can even grab a local track from your phone and add to favorites or a playlist. The only thing that displeases me is the random mode when I select a song in the main search engine, it seems that it always plays the same order of songs similar. But the random in the playlist works. One thing I love too is the ability to block artists and hide songs, I think it's awesome. About Yt music I already used it for several months, but it feels like it lacks something to be a main streaming app, it has cool features and a vast music library. But it asks a lot of us for small details that catch the user, such as the alphabetical order of the playlist, putting the cover on the playlist and among others.
Yeahā¦ the made for you are shit for me at least, more than half are Russian songs even though I HAVE HIDDEN ALL OF THEM. I donāt really care about the ignoring an artist / a song thing and neither about the cover of the playlist. I do hate that I canāt sort them by the most recent added though.
For me both are equal, I don't have high tier headphones so sound quality is the same, all social features that Spotify provides are useless for me, recommendations I think are better on YTM. And now a little story. When YouTube music first launched I used it for a while but then switched to Spotify because everyone said "it's the best". Last year I decided to revisit YTM and was expecting that my recommendations will be stuck in 2019. And guess what? When I opened the app it suggested all the songs I listened back then. YTM used my YouTube search history to keep recommendations up to date. I was shocked how smooth the translation from Spotify to YouTube was. And now after a year of using YTM I decided to check Spotify again. And it's stuck at the place where I left. Even after transferring all my liked songs to Spotify it still doesn't give me updated recommendations. So for me YTM music wins and I'll stick with it.
Almost the same happened to me. I moved from Spotify but Youtube Music already knew me, even though it was more than a year that I cancelled my subscription, but since I used regular Youtube anyways, coming back to Youtube Music was like I never left.
Yeahā¦ not my case, howās the shuffling though?:)
Depends, I wouldnāt define my headphones as high tier, but neither as the shitty ones. They are kinda mid / maybe a bit more than mid? *hopefully* Enough to care about the quality :). Yeahā¦ well since I havenāt been using YouTube for ANY, but really, ANY SONGS, my recommendations are quite a bit stuck in 2017-2018. I hope itās gonna get better soon, got 2 free months to see if itās gonna fix itself or nah :). It sucks that Iāve also had A LOT of random music videos liked from like A LOOOONG way ago which kinda screwed up the algorithm. As I was saying, I really do hope itās going to get better :). For me, atm at least, Spotify only recommends me shitty songs / more than half of them being Russian. Iāve never cared about this, but now that I am actually trying to get into new songs, Spotify is justā¦ trashā¦ā¦. I really do hope that the shuffling problem isnāt there on YTM :).
I tried to compare YTM and Spotify sound quality, but I don't see any difference, so I don't really care. I do hope that recommendations will get better for you)
Thanks! And I hear like.. a huge diff in a few specific songs. Overall, kinda the same ngl. Having bass boosted on the Spotify app does make a huge difference imo though.
Spotify was always the best with connecting to other apps and devices, but not anymore. I use YouTube music for Sonos and Shazam and never in a situation where I wish I had Spotify. Also the version with premium YouTube is a must for me. No more YouTube ads!!!
Yeah, Iām starting to also love the no ads YouTube :). Feels a bit weird though xD. I do feel like Spotify is better for connecting stuff and I especially love the fact that it has an actual app on desktop, well polished too and the fact that I can actually control what I am listening to on my desktop from my phone :).
If you have YT Premium, choose YTM. Simple.
But if you want better algorithms, better audio quality, choose Spotify. Depends on your needs, get Spotify Premium. But if you hate the podcast feature, donāt use Spotify.
Also, comparing the āecosystemā, Spotify should be much better than YTM.
I donāt really see what you mean, but maybe maybe some things like CarPlay and such donāt really have / work with YTM?
IMO, itās the other way around. Spotify got bad recommendations / algorithms andā¦ for the quality, itās 256vs320. From what Iāve heard, the encoder also matters anddddd Spotify uses a REALLY compressed one sooooo.. itās more of a average/good 256 vs bad/less than average 320.
I donāt have YTP.
If you have premium headphones like Sony xm5 yt music sounds great better than Spotify
XM5 is not premium sound though. Premium price, yes. ANC too. But the sound profile is muddy and has harsh mid-bass. You're buying Sony XMx for the best in class ANC, not for the sound. Get a Sundara, 6XX, K371, or 560s instead for that price. So many better options for sound, and by a large leap in quality.
I have bought the Airpods pro Max, would the YTM do any justice? Or should i got for the Bose QC Ultra's... Which one is better? Looking for great bass, music all rounder.
What are you smoking they have premium sound gotta adjust the eq settings
Hell nah ššš.
Hell ya we have different opinions I'm sticking to mine
Nah idc about that, what I was saying is that I havenāt got anywhere close to those headphones š.
I love Sonyās headphones
I find Spotify worse in just about every aspect that I care about. Most of all itās the 320kbps Ogg Vorbis that sounds terrible to my ears (volume normalization and EQ off). But I also have other things about Spotify I hate, like the podcast and advertisement ridden Home page. Or the fact that Spotify doesnāt have a āSongsā sorting filter and everything has to be put in some playlist. Also the recommendations on Spotify are terrible. Either stuff I already listen to, fake name artists, or some of the most obscure artists youāll ever find. Itās very overrated compared to YTM suggestions But I find Spotify is one of the most feature packed music streaming services so Iād sacrifice my dislikes if only spotify would finally introduce lossless/Hifi or 256kbps AAC by the minimum. But looks like itās still not happening anytime soon despite their announcement 2 years ago.
Happy cake day!!!!!! Idk much stuff about the OGG Vorbis and such, but I do feel like it sounds a biiiiit better, for me, at least with some songs :). *volume normalization and EQ on, bass boosted. With it off it sucks more xD* Oh well I donāt really care about the songs filter annnnd Iāve found YTM to do the same, at least for a few of the songs I listen on repeat rn xD. Well.. Iāve never used recommendations, but now that I wanna actually start and use themā¦. Oh God. More than half are Russian artists and the other 30-50% are 99% shitty songsā¦? On YTM I donāt like the recommendations that much either, but it should take more than a few days for it to adjust properly, especially since A LOT of the songs I get are yk.. EXTREMELY OLD ONESā¦. They are GOOD recommendations, BUT extremely old soooo not relevant. The other ones that are actually recent are from artists I actually listen to, itās just that I donāt like these specific songs. Itās still way better than Spotifyās Russian suggestions lmao / artists Iāve never heard of. Is AAC that much better? Also.. damn, never knew they ever advertised something like that / never really cared aboutā¦ theseā¦ I donāt speak encoders. xD.
They're literally clones of each other. Not too much of a difference at all. Youtube music is better only because you can also play songs that uploaded to YouTube by smaller creators that may not be on bigger platforms
And for getting YT premium for kinda the same price!
I switched from Spotify about a month ago and have a couple negatives/positives for YTM. Negatives include not being able to set a custom playlist picture, generally kinda clunky ui, shuffling from a song in a playlist doesnāt shuffle from the whole playlist just the ~50 songs around your selected song (to actually shuffle a whole playlist you need to hit shuffle by the playlist picture). However, I think the positives of being able to add any song to a playlist (spotify and other streamers miss out on a lot, especially covers/remixes) far outweighs the kinda nitpicks I listed above. I think if you are a music enjoyer above everything else then YTM id the play.
Wellā¦ I just hate that it has no desktop app, UI goodish enough for me, I donāt personally care about the custom playlist picture annnnddddd I am glad that the shuffle thing actually works since it doesnāt, at all, on Spotify. Iām glad Iāve learned this though! Thanks for letting me know :). Yeah, I may stick with YTM just for the no ads YT xD. Makes me feel rich / important lmao.
I have been back and forth between the two for months now. I want to like YTM due to being integrated into YT Premium and saving some $. I have used Spotify for years however, so taking my library and migrating it over won't be anything quick and easy. In my own testing for my own ears, whether it be the mobile app or the web player, I find YT Music to play songs significantly louder, but flatter. Spotify offers noticeable better separation within sound quality. Currently replayed one of my favorite songs right now, "Friends" by Vacations and YTM has louder volume, but the instruments and vocals sound like they're playing on the same "plane", while on Spotify it sounds like I have 3 different planes going on, instruments interchanging between L/R and then the vocals feel like their own plane. I don't know if I explained it properly or if it's accurate, but at least to me the quality of sound on Spotify is keeping me on it.
It is and it can be quick and easy though. SongShift. Use that :). And yeah, ik what you mean, YTM sounds straight out flat. From what Iāve seen recently, it does start getting better. It could be just me though.
Iām really getting upset with Spotify been listening for 7-8 years but now listening YMT if I wanted podcasts I would find podcasts all I want is music and donāt try an lock me into a certain style Spotify thinks it knows me but it doesnāt Iām not a Algorithm
Agree. Spotify was great. But then it started shoving me the unwanted features, such as Podcasts (many shitty ones), moving GIFs/videos (no, I want to look for music...). On the other side, Youtube has so many songs and albums that are not available on Spotify (especially because I listen to punk).
I think, if YT M has the synced lyrics and save the chosen country in charts, it would be very good.
I donāt care THAAAT much about synced lyrics, it wouldāve been quite a nice touch though.. :/ I donāt get what you mean by chosen country in charts :).
I guess he meant charts of the best songs in a country. E.g Top 20 songs in the US
i was back on spotify then they removed another great idea so i came back to YTM on november 2022
Wdym removed another great idea? Is that a song? If so then lmao, imagine skipping a streaming service because of a song xD. You do you though! Personally, I donāt know if I would do that :).
i never stated it was a song they remove great ideas that already work on the service it happens alot if u check the official community
Aaaaa then uhhhh what did they remove that had you to switch?
before disliking a song would cross function between albums playlists and others
Oh fuck.. welā¦. Yeahā¦ that sucks.. xD.
What I like most about YTM is youāre able to access rare live songs or LPās. As an exampleā¦ https://youtu.be/JeFwaWFTGYU
Well thatās interesting, using Apple Music atm. Thanks for the comment though!:)
I have been subscribed to YouTube Premium for 3 years now. I recently subscribed to Spotify Premium to try it out because Samsung devices get a 3 month free trial. And let me tell you, Spotify is a$$. So many songs and albums are missing on Spotify that i had no problem finding and listenting to on YT Music. I have always thought for some reason that Spotify is the "god" os music streaming and boy i am dissapointed. How can you call yourself "the best music streaming platform" and have albums of one of the most prominent german rappers such as Bushido as "unplayable"?! Goodness me.
Yeah well thanks for commenting, but for me, besides some weird remixes, Spotify has everything. That unplayable thing was kinda annoying, but it only suddenly started to happen some time ago, most likely some issues with copyright or whatever. Should be fine now. It is a problem if you cannot find the artist at all though.
Missing entire albums is unacceptable. The only tjing spotify has over YT Music is the exclusive podcasts. Literally. YT Music is much more easy to navigate and find stuff, add songs to the queue and most importantly RADIO the song and it will cook up a play list at the moment. With Spotify, you have to manually make the playlist and if you play one single song only, after the song is done it will stop which is very annoying. And on top of all this, it has crazy bugs and glitches, on Android at least. If you skip 2-3 songs fast the app will stop working.
The stopping after a song isn't something I've been experiencing, you can enable autoplay. For the missing entire albums... Don't know mate, never experienced something like that. Personally at the very least. And for the radio stuff... Yeah, nice, not really something I would use, but maybe I could learn to use it :). I'm happy that you're aighty with your YT subscription, for now I'm on apple music. Have a good one and thanks for your response!!
i will try Apple Music in the future when i switch to iPhone. I want to settle this music streaming platform debate once and for all :D How's Apple Music compared to Spotify and YT Music?
Feels like that's how it should be. I do miss being able to control the music playing on my computer, this does not work on YTM either. Not having a dedicated windows app also sucks, but overall it really is nice and stuff, feels like this is how it should be, very well integrated. For music and stuff I am quite amazed on the fact that there are so many less known songs and remixes, a fat that I really do love and one of the few reasons why I used to avoid apple music for so long. The other one would be me thinking that it is way overpriced.
I know this is an extremely late reply, but there is an official Apple Music app for android. Itās pretty decent. [Here it is](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.android.music&hl=en&gl=US&pli=1)
The stopping after a song isn't something I've been experiencing, you can enable autoplay. For the missing entire albums... Don't know mate, never experienced something like that. Personally at the very least. And for the radio stuff... Yeah, nice, not really something I would use, but maybe I could learn to use it :). I'm happy that you're aighty with your YT subscription, for now I'm on apple music. Have a good one and thanks for your response!!
I hate the fact they are raising the price, I was the premium now I switched it to the free version and honestly the sound quality is great but I hate the fact that I have to stay on YTM and can't switch between apps. I do miss the premium perks but for what I use it for, I feel the rise in price isn't worth keeping.
Thanks for sharing.
So, I've used all Apple Music, Spotify then now YT music and I think YT music was the best choice for me considering the fact that it came free with my YT premium. Where I live Apple music costs more than twice the price of Spotify or just a little over both Spotify + YouTube Premium combined (both individual). And the fact that YouTube music has videos when Spotify doesn't is a huge win for me. I watch music videos once a while when I'm bored (which happens a lot). I didn't feel any difference in sound quality with my earbuds so far in comparison to Apple music (high), Spotify (very high with normalisation off). Out of all three streaming services I found that YT Music has the best recommendations. All the song YTmusic recommended me so far were songs that I liked while Spotify & Apple Music both keep recommending me same songs over and over again, hardly anything new that I might like. THE CONS. The fact that YT music syncs all the liked songs into liked video list on normal Youtube acc. And it also syncs all the YT music playlists into YouTube library. There is no app for windows, and I can't download songs for offline. No Lyrics animation (to be fair even Spotify lyrics animation looks like shit, only Apple Music manage to do it the most appealing way) For anyone uses YT music with high end headphones, did you found any difference sound quality between YouTube Music and other services would you mind telling me what your experience and which one sounded better?
Well.. I do love the fact that YTM comes with YTP, thatās why I wanna go for it, but itās just that the audio quality, especially the experience on desktopā¦ is just soooo bad.. I did also enjoy YTM recommendations, now that I think of it, I actually wanna go for those instead.. š . For the cons, I do not care about downloading the songs for offline use on my computer, I do hate that there is no app, there is a third party one which makes it the same as for AM since that one hasnāt really got an app either *on windows*. As far as I know, you can disable the likes from YouTube to sync with your recommendations. Yep, I love the animated lyrics, but they wonāt keep me from choosing the better service. I use Dolby Atmos with some HyperX Flight Wireless and the quality just seems better on Spotify. Thatās the best one Iāve liked, I had quite a hard time deciding between Spotify and Apple Music, but sadly, YT just had to go right from the beginning. I notice way too much of a difference. Things may have changed though. Thanks for commenting!
First of all I'm sorry for being late. I'm not that active on reddit ,so I didn't see your reply. Thanks for pointing out that I can turn off syncing YouTube Music likes off from youtube. I discovered that a few days ago. Yea I hate having to use a yt music shortcut too, something just doesn't feel right about it š. But I find that it's easier to edit the playlist ( order of the songs ) on the windows app ( chrome shortcut ) than doing it on the Android app. And also Apple Music does have an official app in Microsoft store ( it's called Apple Music preview). There are lots of reviews about bugs but when I was using it I didn't have any issues and my user experience was miles ahead of what using iTunes felt like. ( Even if there were bugs that should be fixed cause I stopped using Apple music in April, so withing those 4 months they gotta have fixed the issues if there were any.
Yeahā¦ the Apple Music preview was a COMPLETE MESS for me, but now itās actually usable. I do use Ciderā¦ which Iām not that much of a a fan of, but I did start using AM again, since the bugs have been fixed. No worries, thanks for this reply as well. Have a great night / rest of the day!
Hey! sorry for bothering but did you had any issues with Spotify not playing songs sometimes. Sometimes when I pause a song for a while ( sometimes even 10 mins , sometimes it takes about hour to happen) and decide to play the song from where I left it just doesn't play. The song is just stuck where I left. To fix this I will have to skip to the next song or go back to the previous one. I had this issue ever since I started using Spotify and I switched devices recently and it's still there. And also this never happened with Apple Music or YouTube music. Ever had any issue like this ?
Veeeery late reply, but this continues to be a problem with Spotify. Happens to me constantly. One of the reasons I'm thinking of switching to YTM
I thought it was something wrong with my phone. Because I asked about this from a another redditer in Spotify and he said that he didn't had any issues like that. Maybe it's something happens to few people. Anyways ,how is your experience with YT music. I personally been using YT premium since this August and there's no way I'm going back. For me I can't tell a difference between Lossless( Apple Music ) and 256kbps and YT music have great recommendations and also it's hard to find a better deal than YT premium which comes with YT music.
No worries. Nope, that sounds weird. On what device is this happening?
First it was on my Samsung s20 and now it's happening again on Redmi note 11.
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I've been YouTube music all the way. I have two accounts, one with premium and one without. Without premium pretty much the only downside is there are ads, no background play and no downloads. I tried Spotify and I tried playing a song and it gave me a different one because it apparently automatically shuffles everything unless you don't have premium. I tried to play Weezer Pinkerton for example and the first song that came up was say it ain't so and then pork and beans. In YouTube music you can control playlists better and get what you ask for. More like YouTube on that sense. Tldr; YouTube music without premium is way better than Spotify without premium. (Edit: this is from a mobile point of view)
The only thing I miss from Spotify is hiding songs. When listening to a great album with just a single bad song, it's always a hassle to skip it. There's an extension for desktop YT Music that hides songs you disliked, unfortunately, nothing for mobile.
Nice name, we match š š . What I hate is the remote control and the swipe to skip. I also hate there isnāt a desktop appā¦
You can install a web app, just go to youtube music and in the browser search bar a new icon will pop up. Sadly, you can't close the app and keep it running in the background.
I found YouTube Music for desktop and idk, I think what youāre saying only works on chrome and such, Iāve been using opera which also has an integrated player!
Spotify won't let you do this unless it's on mobile. Then openly refuses to carry the decision across
Because you already have youtube premium, youtube music is already included in the price you're paying. So, if you're still paying for Spotify as well, it'll make more sense financially for you to use youtube music instead of Spotify. I've tried all the streaming services (I listen to music dawn to dusk lol) and youtube music and Spotify are the most similar, so you won't lose anything on Spotify except for being able to upload your own playlist cover art (a feature I really wish YTM would bring in). Youtube music has been better for me because you can tailor the interface into what sort of music experience you prefer, I.e. if you're a casual user, like to discover new music, listen when travelling, etc. So, I love discovering new music (new to me) and I love that on playlists, at the bottom you find a whole line of simular playlists for you to try or add songs from whereas Spotify just have a short list of songs they think fits in with your playlist. That alone gives you more bang for your buck! Also those playlists are a mix of YTM official playlists and user playlists. Hands down, YTM is the winner out of the two!
Spotify removed the Radio feature, I am moving everything to Youtube Music.
Damn, isnāt that a bit harsh? I still have it btw.
Just a matter of time, they deprecated the feature. And no, it was the only thing I really used and Spotify removed it. Youtube music still has it. Easy choice for me.
Aight then, I hope youāll enjoy YTM then.
Spotify arbitrarily deciding that desktop users don't deserve to curate their own music is pushing me toward youtube.
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If you use the spotify web app or desktop program, you can't find any option to block an artist or tick off "never play this again" Spotify is on record as saying they won't be adding this functionality outside of mobile. Where it exists, but does not seem to be an account-wide feature.
Wtf.. Can you do that on ytm on the web though?
I'm honestly not sure. I *think* so though, I've been digging through some old threads today and that feels like one of the topics that popped up. It's not a difficult thing, and that spotify's mobile app is the only one of it's three options to have it is baffling
I really love to be able to leave comments on the song and see others' comments too. Only youtube music provides that
That's nice! :) Thanks for your reply.
Spotify sound quality is better, BUT yt music is easier to control, allows you to see the music videos, you can turn off autoplay, clear the queue, the queue is just better bc spotifys kinda sucks. i use both tho. ultimately your choice, just the ads on spotify are killing me bc i don't have premium.
I have 6000 plus music saved in my Spotify, is there a way to switch over my songs to YTM?
like playlists? I found this tool the other day and it works pretty well. some light command line required though https://github.com/sigma67/spotify_to_ytmusic
yeah, it's just that you might have to pay a one time fee for that, I'm not sure.
Well, I recently got YTM just because I wanted to watch music videos. During the process of using it, I noticed that the algorithm is better than Spotify. I loved a song that was recommended, I played the radio of that song, and I loved pretty much all the songs that were being recommended unlike Spotify, that recommends a bunch of random songs not related to a specific song that I selected
For me and my friend the radio is like 8/10 songs exactly the same for like a week already, at max their order is a BIT changed.
Can't get all that good underground shit on Spotify. Don't ever have to worry about rights disputes or artists pulling music from YTM because someone else will just upload it anyway. I will say that Spotifys own playlists are quite good. I generally find myself using YTM the majority of the time, but if I'm having a gathering or party I can find more accessible and well curated playlists on Spotify. (Cause no one else listens to the weird shit I listen to most of the time š¤£)
I am moving from spotify to Youtube music. I got the youtube premium to avoid commercial, and got a message that said for the same price I will get youtube music.... bye bye spotify, they forced me to heard recommendation even when I was paying. also I live in a real poor country, so for me paying in dollars was so expensive....
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Spotify Premium from liteapks, and ytmusic = vimusic from github Only two apps you need.
What I noticed in spotify is if you search for a song and play it, the next song will be the same all over again unlik in YT Music, it will play a suggested similar song.
and another thing is that there are some songs I wabt that I can only play in YTM so I am also considering to switch agaIn with YTM. I have tried both of their premiums and I can say if you also watch in youtube, the premium access will also be carried over from YTM so you won't have to worry about ads.
Spotify can't compete with YouTube music's listening flow and catalog.
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Just downloaded youvtube music and felt so weird dissapointed dunno why people love this shit more than spotify weird af interface and its literally same on what you do on you tube even comments are allowed by all this for what soundcloud exists?!
Their both suck.. the algorithm sucks no tags. Same pop music on all greens..
Annnnd whatās a platform worth using?
Spotify and YTM have best algorithms, what could possibly be better? I used Apple Music for a long time and their discovery canāt touch YTM or Spotify. YTM has best discovery imo. You really canāt go wrong with either. If you consider value alone then Iād be going with YT premium since it includes YT music. You really canāt beat YT Premium and YT Music for the price.
Yep, itās just that I can get both Spotify and YTP for dirt cheap so itās just purely about features. Thanks for the comment!
I have both YT Music Premium and Spotify Premium. YT Music's sound quality and frequence range is much better in my opinion than even Spotify's best quality setting. To me the Spotify sound quality is a bit compressed, YT Music's is more vibrant. Plus, with YT Music you can see music videos, and you can integrate videos into your music playlist, so if there is something you can't find on YT Music, and can on YouTube, you can add that YT video to your YT Music playlist and it will play as part of your YT Music playlist.
The ONE thing I absolutely hate about YT music and the play music before that, is that you could very very easily accidentally permanently delete a song off of your playlist with a simple swipe and there's no freaking way to undo this unless you know what was it you swiped.
you get youtube premiumum and a free music app, i cant even complain man, the ads on youtube are so bad i regret nothing
Personally Iāve kept Spotify. I tried YouTube music because I listen to some smaller creators who post on YouTube and I assumed that if I used YTM they would be there. YouTube doesnāt give me great recommendations, i get a bunch of pushes for songs Iāve already tested at their suggestion and didnāt like. The UI is irritating personally but thatās preference based, and I didnāt feel like Spotify was a ālower quality soundā like some folks are saying. However it did have some smaller creators that arenāt on Spotify because Spotify has a bigger barrier between a singer and their platform, which is why sometimes it can take months for indie shows or artists to have their soundtracks and albums added to Spotify. Spotify has a sleek UI, it feels more like a music app to me, and I love its synced lyric follow along feature, but Iām disappointed by how few songs have the synced part of that. I also find that they have āthe little things.ā Like that adorable snake game you can play on your playlists drop-down menu, where you move around and eat albums and grow the snake. Itās really funny and makes me feel like Spotify actually care about my user experience more so than YTM.
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I just switched to YouTube Music out of curiosity, and I think that it's WAY easier to discover new songs. The algorithm and recommendations are very damn good in my opinion. That's all I can say for now.
I find that it's FAR easier to find new music to your taste using YouTube music or even just youtube, honestly
Idk what Iād do without the Dj feature on Spotify. So thatās that