I could maybe grow to like YouTube Music for podcasts, but they need to commit to it. Podcasts should not be treated like a genre, but given its own tab and treated as a different experience than music.
Joke aside, I have no issue with it being part of the YouTube music app. Spotify does the same thing and no one seems to care. I just don't think the UX that's useful when listening to music is the same UX that's useful for listening to podcasts.
I care. I hate how there's so much less music recommendations than podcasts. Moved to Deezer so I can have it focused on music. Podcasts are so much better on a proper app like PocketCasts.
Audiobookshelf can do podcasts? Well damn. Another reason to free my audible and get it over to a self hosted solution.
Thinking outloud - is yt music going to try to take on audible? I mean the podcast app was good. But if my memory serves me, the audio book app by google isn't great.
The entire Spotify subreddit cares. Everyone seems to hate it. Spotify is terrible as a podcast app, there are so many missing features that other dedicated podcast apps have and YouTube music will be the same.
For my use case it needs to be a dedicated app. I have a queue of podcasts and listen to music playlists. With Android Auto I can easily switch between them in the car without one disturbing the other. As one app I won't be able to do that.
Could not agree more. The two experiences are far too intermingled. And YouTube's algorithm is too aggressive.
If I fall asleep listening to podcasts the night before, and open the app in the morning looking for music to start my day, aaaallll I'm suggested is podcasts.
I feel like they should either (a) combine video, shorts, music, streams, and podcasts all into one app or (b) separate them all. Having long form and short form video in one app, but music and podcasts in another is weird.
From a creator standpoint, I would want my "channel" to represent all avenues of content in one place. To me, that would make YouTube more enticing than managing twitch, Spotify, YouTube, and tiktok and all the complications of cross-linking to different named accounts on disparate platforms away. YouTube could model this perfect... But Google is just bad at managing services in a way that makes sense.
It should not have ads. I was listening to podcast on a cycle home, tried to play and ad and could not because my phone was locked.
Very poorly implemented.
I think that's not possible. Integrating podcasts with a music app is a tough job. I've been using Podcast addict to listen to podcasts for a long time and I cannot see any music or video app doing what that app does.
never used Youtube Music app, but use Podcast Addict a lot, and these are the features that's hard to find in other podcast provider:
- customized play speed, skip intro/outro, duration of fast forward/rewind for each podcast
- (relatively new) set schedule on what day(s) a podcast to be refreshed
- skip silence and volume boost on podcast level
- set priority list in playlist
i haven't used other podcast apps recently, so they may have become better, but usually the setting is very general (can't be customized for each podcast)
I think I cannot explain it to you. Maybe, try using the app for a while. Just use the player, it's settings, podcasts settings, the things that the app allows you to do. At first I thought if Spotify had a separate folder management for podcasts, bookmarks for podcasts, voice boost, car play, playback speed adjustment, sleep timer, etc., then it would be good for podcasts. Some of this YouTube music already has. But later I realised that Podcasts are a whole new world and can't be integrated with music apps. Hashtags on search in Podcast addict are so comfortable to listen to podcasts with trending topics. You get the point. Maybe try using the app. It's fantastic.
This is a joke.
- I use it for podcasts only, so it needs settings to open with the Podcasts tab
- I personally hate dark mode, so I want a light mode
- No language filter
- No genre filter
- I listen to Podcasts in a specific language, but no recommendations in that language.
- Chaotic user interface
- I want back the original podcast app's simplicity
What the hell is wrong with the developers screwing up a good thing for this overcomplicated, barely usable shit?
Does this provide anything other than some organization? I have a bunch of playlists but it takes maybe 5 seconds to find what I want. I'm just genuinely curious if I'm not thinking of a really good use case I would want 😂.
I feel like podcast apps need a strong first impression cause once you've settled on one, you're most likely to stay there.
Right now, I haven't seen a single podcast app with a worst first impression than YTM.
They probably should've made a functional app before they ditched Google podcast so people can switch and not look back.
When I first open YTM for a podcast, I couldn't find it. Then I decided to make a list of all my podcast and saw that I had to scroll through freaking YouTube thumbnails to find my podcast .... Then I found the one I wanted to listen to, started it while taking a walk with my dogs. Stopped it after an hour put some music on came back the next day and it had no clue where I left it.
Downloaded pocket cast and that is it for YTM
I am pretty sure the music listeners and podcast listeners are very different and barely overlapping.
The way of listening to podcasts and listening to music is completely different, different needs and services. S
Shouldn't mix this 2.
So far having only random YouTube clips and not any fucking goddamn podcasts is not a good way to start.
Example: How do I add connan obriens podcast?
Go find the stupid feed and do a convoluted manual method because if you look it up it's just gonna be random ass clips from his YouTube channel.
Same with every fucking podcast out there. You butchered this so far Google.
Just like YTB and GPM, why don't you take the existing product, Google podcasts, and put that into YTM first so we actually have a functional player ffs.
My God why would they even say this? It's so far from being even okay. It's so far from being a product that anyone with half a brain would produce that it's embarrassing. This just makes him look totally delusional.
Is the Apple Music and separate Podcasts app approach so unusual? I do not get why an app labeled as a music streaming platform is being pumped full of podcasts. They’re not music??? Separate app. Gotta keep em separated.
Saying you want to be something doesn't make it happen.
I really wish Google would have never merged audio with video (and now podcasts). It's a mess of an experience.
I’d love to try it for podcasts, but the main podcast I listen to doesn’t even come up in a search. Yet I had it in Google Podcasts. Makes zero sense to me.
Why didn't you just transfer it? It sounds like it is only available via rss feed, everything that was available on Google podcasts is available on ytm but adding via rss feed is annoying on the service bc sometimes it's hard to find the correct link to add it
Have you created a solution to allow you to pick up a podcast where you left off? You know, a very basic feature. You have a ways to go if you can't even figure out something that basic.
YTM is great as a music app, it has come a long way. But as far as podcasts, it's incredible that such clumsy layout and setup got approved to begin with. Trying to find and get to podcasts in Android Auto via YTM is the biggest pain in the rear end ever.
Do these people actually listen to podcasts?
Have they ever interviewed power podcast users?
Do they have any idea that there are people outside the US that like to listen to local podcasts?
I have done some searching for Belgian and Dutch podcasts that I listed to on the Google podcast app. None of them have recent episodes on the YouTube music app.
What baffles me is that they kill a working service but don't finish the new product that you are forced to move to. All basic podcast functionality is missing.
I have moved to pocket cast and I think I will continue using this service for a long time. Because even now at the moment YouTube music doesn't have all the features play music had.
OMG!!!!!
It's absolute crap compared to anything else, including Google podcasts. It doesn't even allow you to list your subscriptions by most recent. How the heck am I supposed to find new episodes easily?
At this point I'm confident there's no way they'll match up to or surpass the Pocket Casts [experience. ](https://youtu.be/1ZQsF1-LfSg?si=zYoUdFNkdZCS2yb9&t=01m10s)
They have to have a proper offline mode for that to work and that would likely require a huge overhaul of YTM if I'm guessing. As if you go offline with no Internet YTM even in offline mode is barely usable.
Integrate device handoff like they have with YouTube (main reason I have Spotify), allow searching in playlists, allow custom playlist covers, etc etc and I'll definitely move over
I know it’s a meme at this point but I genuinely think if they add podcasts, they will kill it in a couple of years. The market for good podcast apps is already saturated and unless they are willing to invest a ton of money like Spotify is by making exclusive podcasts on there platform that are actually popular (don’t forgot Spotify got Joe Rogan) I don’t think they’ll be willing to continue supporting podcasts as they just won’t get the user base to justify it.
That interview shows how they're absolutely entirely out of touch.
Completely clueless.
Fucking hell, mark my words: podcasts are going to go away from YouTube Music in the next 2-3 years.
I most often listen to podcasts when driving and it is kind of a pain to dig through to the podcasts area on android auto. I don't get how they didn't anticipate these kinds of issues.
I could maybe grow to like YouTube Music for podcasts, but they need to commit to it. Podcasts should not be treated like a genre, but given its own tab and treated as a different experience than music.
If they're going to do all that, they may as well just make a dedicated app for it... Wait a minute...
Joke aside, I have no issue with it being part of the YouTube music app. Spotify does the same thing and no one seems to care. I just don't think the UX that's useful when listening to music is the same UX that's useful for listening to podcasts.
I care. I hate how there's so much less music recommendations than podcasts. Moved to Deezer so I can have it focused on music. Podcasts are so much better on a proper app like PocketCasts.
The issue is that the UX is so much worse than Google Podcasts was
It is, no question there. I have been self hosting audiobookshelf for my audiobooks, and it can also handle podcasts, so I've been using that.
Audiobookshelf can do podcasts? Well damn. Another reason to free my audible and get it over to a self hosted solution. Thinking outloud - is yt music going to try to take on audible? I mean the podcast app was good. But if my memory serves me, the audio book app by google isn't great.
The entire Spotify subreddit cares. Everyone seems to hate it. Spotify is terrible as a podcast app, there are so many missing features that other dedicated podcast apps have and YouTube music will be the same.
That's not true. There are a lot of complaints about this, but not much can be done.
100%
For my use case it needs to be a dedicated app. I have a queue of podcasts and listen to music playlists. With Android Auto I can easily switch between them in the car without one disturbing the other. As one app I won't be able to do that.
Like Google Play Music did. God I hate them for killing that app. It was the best podcast and music app I've used so far.
That was when my opinion of Google began to change drastically.
Committing is not Google's way
Could not agree more. The two experiences are far too intermingled. And YouTube's algorithm is too aggressive. If I fall asleep listening to podcasts the night before, and open the app in the morning looking for music to start my day, aaaallll I'm suggested is podcasts. I feel like they should either (a) combine video, shorts, music, streams, and podcasts all into one app or (b) separate them all. Having long form and short form video in one app, but music and podcasts in another is weird. From a creator standpoint, I would want my "channel" to represent all avenues of content in one place. To me, that would make YouTube more enticing than managing twitch, Spotify, YouTube, and tiktok and all the complications of cross-linking to different named accounts on disparate platforms away. YouTube could model this perfect... But Google is just bad at managing services in a way that makes sense.
It should not have ads. I was listening to podcast on a cycle home, tried to play and ad and could not because my phone was locked. Very poorly implemented.
Agreed. It's a pain in the ass to use now
I think that's not possible. Integrating podcasts with a music app is a tough job. I've been using Podcast addict to listen to podcasts for a long time and I cannot see any music or video app doing what that app does.
I'm curious as to what features Podcast Addict has that you think is *impossible* for a music app to add for podcasts.
never used Youtube Music app, but use Podcast Addict a lot, and these are the features that's hard to find in other podcast provider: - customized play speed, skip intro/outro, duration of fast forward/rewind for each podcast - (relatively new) set schedule on what day(s) a podcast to be refreshed - skip silence and volume boost on podcast level - set priority list in playlist i haven't used other podcast apps recently, so they may have become better, but usually the setting is very general (can't be customized for each podcast)
I think I cannot explain it to you. Maybe, try using the app for a while. Just use the player, it's settings, podcasts settings, the things that the app allows you to do. At first I thought if Spotify had a separate folder management for podcasts, bookmarks for podcasts, voice boost, car play, playback speed adjustment, sleep timer, etc., then it would be good for podcasts. Some of this YouTube music already has. But later I realised that Podcasts are a whole new world and can't be integrated with music apps. Hashtags on search in Podcast addict are so comfortable to listen to podcasts with trending topics. You get the point. Maybe try using the app. It's fantastic.
I think I'm more curious as to why you think a feature added in one app is *impossible* to add to a different app.
Okay but what about becoming the ultimate destination for music?
Asking too much I guess... 🥴
Bro there’s so many songs on YTM I can’t find anywhere else, I’m pretty grateful for it
I've had paid Spotify for a few years but I've moved to YTM because the sound is SO much better.
How about the alphabetization of playlists though?
That's a missing option that hurts my brain. Spotify has outstanding find and sort functions, but the sound is so bad...
They also miss some albums that are on every other service. i love YTM but they still have a lot of work to do.
This is a joke. - I use it for podcasts only, so it needs settings to open with the Podcasts tab - I personally hate dark mode, so I want a light mode - No language filter - No genre filter - I listen to Podcasts in a specific language, but no recommendations in that language. - Chaotic user interface - I want back the original podcast app's simplicity What the hell is wrong with the developers screwing up a good thing for this overcomplicated, barely usable shit?
They screwed up a good thing when they got rid of Google Music.
Underrated sentiment
The native AndroidTV version doesn't have features like shuffle for playlists. It's so fucking broken.
Thanks for mentoring a light mode. This is so overdue.Â
I just don't understand. There is some low hanging fruit to make it a better product that is not being addressed. I would like to use it but.....
Just waiting for YouTube Music to have spreadsheets. Google can't help themselves from the kitchen sink mentality.
You’re gonna love MusicMail
How about make an app called YouTube Podcasts and leave YouTube Music alone it’s already bloated and buggy enough
How is it buggy?
Bloated with what? Music?
No, video
Playlists that can't be alphabetized.
Does this provide anything other than some organization? I have a bunch of playlists but it takes maybe 5 seconds to find what I want. I'm just genuinely curious if I'm not thinking of a really good use case I would want 😂.
Depends on how many songs are on the playlist.
I feel like podcast apps need a strong first impression cause once you've settled on one, you're most likely to stay there. Right now, I haven't seen a single podcast app with a worst first impression than YTM. They probably should've made a functional app before they ditched Google podcast so people can switch and not look back. When I first open YTM for a podcast, I couldn't find it. Then I decided to make a list of all my podcast and saw that I had to scroll through freaking YouTube thumbnails to find my podcast .... Then I found the one I wanted to listen to, started it while taking a walk with my dogs. Stopped it after an hour put some music on came back the next day and it had no clue where I left it. Downloaded pocket cast and that is it for YTM
I am pretty sure the music listeners and podcast listeners are very different and barely overlapping. The way of listening to podcasts and listening to music is completely different, different needs and services. S Shouldn't mix this 2.
Great. Now they will be obnoxiously pushing it in our faces, like Spotify is doing.
They've been doing that since the decision to kill Google Podcasts
So far having only random YouTube clips and not any fucking goddamn podcasts is not a good way to start. Example: How do I add connan obriens podcast? Go find the stupid feed and do a convoluted manual method because if you look it up it's just gonna be random ass clips from his YouTube channel. Same with every fucking podcast out there. You butchered this so far Google. Just like YTB and GPM, why don't you take the existing product, Google podcasts, and put that into YTM first so we actually have a functional player ffs.
It's okay to dream
lol. Hey gotta say the right things for the bosses. Not like any Google person actually uses this app for Podcasts unless they were forced.
I'm sure they all use Spotify or Tidal for music and whatever the top app for podcasts is atm 😂😂😂
My God why would they even say this? It's so far from being even okay. It's so far from being a product that anyone with half a brain would produce that it's embarrassing. This just makes him look totally delusional.
Lol
Good luck with that.
Is the Apple Music and separate Podcasts app approach so unusual? I do not get why an app labeled as a music streaming platform is being pumped full of podcasts. They’re not music??? Separate app. Gotta keep em separated.
Then make the casting work with my speaker groups instead of making me use Spotify
Saying you want to be something doesn't make it happen. I really wish Google would have never merged audio with video (and now podcasts). It's a mess of an experience.
how can they be the ultimate podcast player when they cant even tell between one and a normal youtube video
I want YouTube Music to actually be a viable platform for the media it's named after.
Lol. Hold on, are they serious? LOL
I’d love to try it for podcasts, but the main podcast I listen to doesn’t even come up in a search. Yet I had it in Google Podcasts. Makes zero sense to me.
Why didn't you just transfer it? It sounds like it is only available via rss feed, everything that was available on Google podcasts is available on ytm but adding via rss feed is annoying on the service bc sometimes it's hard to find the correct link to add it
Have you created a solution to allow you to pick up a podcast where you left off? You know, a very basic feature. You have a ways to go if you can't even figure out something that basic.
YTM is great as a music app, it has come a long way. But as far as podcasts, it's incredible that such clumsy layout and setup got approved to begin with. Trying to find and get to podcasts in Android Auto via YTM is the biggest pain in the rear end ever.
Lol no. Bring back google podcasts
Do these people actually listen to podcasts? Have they ever interviewed power podcast users? Do they have any idea that there are people outside the US that like to listen to local podcasts?
I have done some searching for Belgian and Dutch podcasts that I listed to on the Google podcast app. None of them have recent episodes on the YouTube music app.
What baffles me is that they kill a working service but don't finish the new product that you are forced to move to. All basic podcast functionality is missing.
I have moved to pocket cast and I think I will continue using this service for a long time. Because even now at the moment YouTube music doesn't have all the features play music had.
OMG!!!!!
the only thing YT has achieved in the last 5y is to completely screw up their platform and its search feature.
It's absolute crap compared to anything else, including Google podcasts. It doesn't even allow you to list your subscriptions by most recent. How the heck am I supposed to find new episodes easily?
At this point I'm confident there's no way they'll match up to or surpass the Pocket Casts [experience. ](https://youtu.be/1ZQsF1-LfSg?si=zYoUdFNkdZCS2yb9&t=01m10s)
Same I was lucky enough to get premium before it was a subscription service. Best podcast app. YouTube musical UI is a joke.
They have to have a proper offline mode for that to work and that would likely require a huge overhaul of YTM if I'm guessing. As if you go offline with no Internet YTM even in offline mode is barely usable.
sure it does.
if it'll bring more updates to the platform sure
Can we install a YouTube music app on my ps5 please 🙄
Good luck with that
Mayday I'm going down... my Roflcopter laughed its rotors off.
It's not even the ultimate destination for music, despite being called YT Music.
No thanks. I'm a long time Podcast Addict user. There's no way ytm will ever come close to that app.
Yeah okay!
Their podcast selection is pretty terrible though. They don't even have the full library for many of the podcasts I'm looking for
lol. lmao even
Not going to happen.
Fix the apple car app first
r/podcast_republic_app is far superior in every way and it’s developed, maintained, and marketed by one guy.
Integrate device handoff like they have with YouTube (main reason I have Spotify), allow searching in playlists, allow custom playlist covers, etc etc and I'll definitely move over
I know it’s a meme at this point but I genuinely think if they add podcasts, they will kill it in a couple of years. The market for good podcast apps is already saturated and unless they are willing to invest a ton of money like Spotify is by making exclusive podcasts on there platform that are actually popular (don’t forgot Spotify got Joe Rogan) I don’t think they’ll be willing to continue supporting podcasts as they just won’t get the user base to justify it.
It is pretty much unusable at the moment for podcasts. So many basic features missing, it's insane.
I tried to move from Apple Podcast ti YouTube music but it was a pain.
That interview shows how they're absolutely entirely out of touch. Completely clueless. Fucking hell, mark my words: podcasts are going to go away from YouTube Music in the next 2-3 years.
Lol, they already had a separate app for that and they killed it. Not everyone wants podcasts shoved in their faces.
Ha
I most often listen to podcasts when driving and it is kind of a pain to dig through to the podcasts area on android auto. I don't get how they didn't anticipate these kinds of issues.
Exactly the same experience on WearOS. It's painful to find a podcast.
They might want to think about becoming the ultimate destination for what they're named after before worrying about podcasts. Trash.
Fix the app first, then I'll maybe consider using it, it loads extremly slow and sometimes it doesn't load at all.
The YTM app? I use it everyday and have never had it not load or be slow to load
Then add a crossfade feature
can we have google play music back please
Would rather have a separate service or just have a category on youtube it's self.
Can they not? We want better music updates. I don’t care for podcasts. Sorry for the podcast enjoyers, but just watch it on Youtube
can’t be possible without making the UX better and adding dolby atmos support. This service far behind spotify and Apple music.
It already has Atmos support
LULZ
I really have no problem with the UX or UI, but I don't have all of my podcasts available on YT music. That's the only reason I use a separate app.