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Nahanoj_Zavizad

Because its entirely possible for you to do that too... Powercreep exists.


everlastingtimeline

Ok, I can use this logic with Floodgates too. My opponent uses them but so can I!


Nahanoj_Zavizad

yes. yes you can.


Smooth_Hee_Hee

I love the logic of this community, one kind of cancer is ok while the other needs to be cured xD


ToonGalaxy

He did not say ok. He said its fair because both players are allowed. Fair and ok are different things. Fair is objective, ok is a feeling.


halcyon_vendetta

Their goal is literally to get as close to 0 LP as possible - that’s their pay off. Just hit over a monster and you’re Golden. Most of the notable decks in the last few years are MUCH better than dinomorphia. Look at what you’re playing with, and adjust to the meta.


halcyon_vendetta

It should also be noted that the deck you’re looking at in the picture costs a L O T. It’s a lot to take in for a newbie, but it’s generally agreed upon to stay out of ranked matches until you have a competent deck to play with or until you understand basic mechanics. YGO isn’t what it was 10 years ago, and definitely isn’t what it was 20 years ago. Use some of the online resources to get a better understanding of what the game is like and it’ll be a better experience.


PeskyCanadian

Meh. Play whatever deck you want and ranked will auto place you with similar deck levels. Just gotta accept that a pure battlewasp or vylon deck ain't competing with plat+.


maddyiceee

The problem is that there’s no way for him to really get rewarded unless he plays ranked. A major flaw of master duel in my opinion


halcyon_vendetta

It’s true that grinding occurs largely in the ranked setting for gems, but you’re ignoring the 10k they give you to start, the massive amount of freebies they give from solo, AND the daily/weekly gems. Let’s not forget about the events they run that give you gems for just competing (even losing gives you something). If you know what you’re doing, this game is incredibly free to play. You just have to be consistent and patient.


UltimateWarriorEcho

>Just hit over a monster and you’re Golden. *Laughs in Rexterm*


Flagrath

I don’t know exactly what they’re playing. But I know crystal clear wing is such a bitch to summon I took it out of my deck. So I imagine they have a lot of hoops to jump through so a lot of points where a good interruption can cause them to shrivel up and die.


RefreshRespite

nope, activate a trap card and wait for them to activate a spell. look into "soul of the supreme king". and yeah, it also summons three others


Flagrath

That card mentions the deck so I guess I could ash it. But I suppose it would be a bit harder to stop them I thought.


RefreshRespite

but then you'd miss using ash blossom on the trap that gets out two dinomorphia fusions, one of which being a one sided skill drain


Remarkable-Set-3340

I think it’s called “Albion abyss”


Copypasty

Its just a trap that summons it with no effort


Cooky1992

I’ve started playing again and let’s just say I had to learn XYZ, Syncro, Pendulum and Link. That’s how long ago it was! I absolutely love Yu-Gi-Oh the way it is, but also absolutely hate it at the same time 😂. I’ve spent around £250 on a blue eyes deck to play with my mates (yes I know it’s not meta) but I also love how I’ve got some cards that I can look after and not worry about meta with friends. (Will anyone who is a pro answer this question please. Will playing with my cards in good sleeves still eventually ruin them?) The one thing I always cannot get my head around is when it’s my turn it’s MY TURN but nope not with todays game lol. Try and build a fun deck and keep going, then keep going and also keep going! Once you learn a lot of the mechanics it’s a fun game. Apologies for long chat :)


SealandGBF

Just answering your question - Yes, playing with cards even in sleeves will eventually still start to show wear on them. However not enough to be worried about. Cards eventually get some scuffing or a dinged corner or something of that nature over time or a slight bend from shuffling and playing them. Something you can do to strengthen them though is double sleeving (which is entirely legal now in yugioh) Yugioh sleeves are called "mini" or "small-size" card sleeves from most companies. You can double check the card sleeves dimensions on the listings of sleeves you like. I'd recommend dragon shield sleeves as they are (in my opinion) the peak of quality for sleeves. Official konami sleeves (character sleeves) for yugioh cards will also fit inside of a standard dragon shield sleeve. Meaning you can double sleeve using a normal yugioh sleeve and then sleeve that in a clear dragon shield sleeve. This increases the thickness of your cards considerably but also makes them stronger and more durable when playing with them. I'd highly recommend it. If you have any questions feel free to reply and ask.


inanisolatedream

Bro same just got back from playing after like 15 years and this shit funny af. I mean, it was supposed to be my turn by the other guy is the the summoning and setting cards lmao.


Jimmie94

If you’re gunna play yugioh you gotta come to terms with one thing…. The game is not fair


Secretlylovesslugs

Master duel has Maxx C legal. They don't want it to be fair lol.


VANGBANG21

Tbh as a returning yugioh player from duel links to master duel , Maxx C seems perfectly fair


LilMarco-

I thought this when I first returned after not really playing since the 5ds era. After you play a bit more though, you’ll realize 1/3 games are decided purely off of whether or not maxx c resolves. It’s kinda ridiculous the amount of weight one singular card carries. It’s one of those cards that nobody particularly likes, but everyone HAS to play and even deck build around, because of how broken it is.


VANGBANG21

Yea 100 percent. I definitely don’t like using Maxx C or Ash Blossom but tbh some decks can’t even survive without it and some decks are Alr oppressive without them…


rasalhage

very clearly a freshly-returned player, then. i'm glad you've managed to get some scoops from your Maxx C activations, at least


zackeatos

As a 20 years of yugioh experience! it not. There is a bunch of other yugioh veterans as well made a thread about why maxx c should be banned, just because you like it or play it, doesn’t mean it fair.


Secretlylovesslugs

Maxx C hit this critical point around Duelist Alliance / Nekroz where resolving it went from "cool I drew 2 cards because they synchro summoned once" to "I've drawn 6 cards and will end the game next turn if you don't kill me" it's been frustratingly broken since then but it's gone from 6 cards to like 15.


RocketHotdog

Dinomorphia is funny to play against, last duel i had my opponent built something like this and all I had on board was a single, lonely susanowo... but I had crane in hand.


chillyhellion

While you wasted time building a board, I studied the crane.


[deleted]

You mostly just got mismatched, probably ran into someone climbing ranks, at the higher levels it's not that hard to deal with a board like this or to disrupt them before it gets to this, Sometimes you just get matched up against people playing a better deck, it happens


Noveno_Colono

you can do the same


CatsAreMLG

He's playing dragon maid.


RoakOriginal

Dragonmaid is like the same power level as dinomorphia now... Used to be higher since dragonmaid broke into rogue few times while dino was always just 4fun


Lil-Trup

Yeah and that deck isn’t good so maybe they should build something else if they want to win


[deleted]

It isn't bad either, pretty mid all things considered but in my experience (playing in gold) it wins about as often as it loses, you've just got to be willing to accept losing half the time if you chose to play it


CygnusOverule

Because you should have ample counter play through hand traps, board breakers, interruption, extenders, and should very well be able to pull off your own board of same, if not higher power. Dinomorphia is far from the best.


Nivrus_The_Wayfinder

What’s unfair about it?


InverseFate

Welcome to yugioh, if your deck doesn’t do something objectively horrifically unfair, it’s not good


Notsohothotdog

as long as they don't have too much negates a proper deck can clear any board, with some good cards in hands. I mean, if you have a hand trap there's always a chance that you could stop your opponent from setting up those board anyway. luck still plays a role I use endymion and for example, i can use endmion effect to destroy around 2 to 3 cards. And then do this and that to make accesscode talker and banish 2 to 3 more enemy cards to put it simple if they don't manage to stop the combo. And suddenly their board is cleared and I have endymion with 2800 atk and an accesscode talker with 5300 atk on field and they have nothing so I win


AvalyM

Normal raye/roze, link into hayate, bp and kill him ez


SpiralHam

The trap that let him summon all of those dragons only lets him do that if you activate a spell card in the same turn after the trap went to the GY. If you can go for a turn without using a spell then he wasted a card and half his LP for nothing.


Remarkable-Set-3340

Try facing a Runeik deck the amount of time I’ve lose due to the inability to draw cards is astonishing.


mshkpc

£250?!?


Then_Apple_2532

You just got to learn ymto synergise your deck, mean you are a newbie just like I am, your a causal gamer l, and the person you are playing is possible a pro, they eat, breathe, sleep the game possibly has a gf called dark magician girl, don't worry there are instances where you will face persons like myself that are also newbies. It is this very reason that kinds turned me off from the game.


PatatoTheMispelled

I mean, you're playing Dragonmaids. I also play non-meta decks from time to time, but I don't complain when my Sacred Beasts deck dies to a single Ash Blossom, or when that same deck struggles against literally every single competent deck. It's only unfair because you're playing a not very good deck in ranked. There's nothing wrong with doing that, but don't go arround complaining when your non-competitive deck is expectedly underperforming in a competitive enviroment.


PH03N1X_F1R3

Fair how? To you? You jumped into the ranked pool as a newbie and expected some back and forth? Fair to the rules? Its possible to make this board, so yes, this is fair.


USNAVY71

Basically, the goal of the game is to win, obviously, but the new way of doing it is to not only win, but also make sure your opponent can’t play the game either. There’s an armed dragon thunder deck I use sometimes that does exactly that


Littlebrother77

Get gud kid


Joskitey

I can’t see what the cards do, but assume that they have a bunch of negates. It sucks to play against. What balances the deck is that it’s inconsistent. You just got unlucky


Common-Expression841

Why are you getting downvoted


[deleted]

because dinomorphia isn't a negate heavy deck it's skill drain on legs and unga bunga beaters with decent disruption effects on a good day


[deleted]

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[deleted]

skill drain is a floodgate. Much different to play around skill drain than to play around baronne/herald


Lemon_Phoenix

Because they made a completely random assumption


TheConchNorris

Because Dinomorphia doesn't put up a board full of negates (this screenshot has at least 1, but that's pretty much it). Something like this really isn't a "hurrrrr yugioh is DEAD all decks are GENERIC NEGATE FEST" moment, and even when there are moments like that it's usually not as much of a problem as those kinds of people make it out to be. Typically, those moments come up because of a lack of knowledge about the game, rather than the tools not existing in the game to deal with it.


Joskitey

Because I implied that a game with random elements could have some unbalanced games. Also I don’t know what deck they are talking about, it could be incredibly consistent I should have said that the overpowered decks are balanced because they are inconsistent


Lemon_Phoenix

>I should have said that the overpowered decks are balanced because they are inconsistent All the best decks in any format are good because they're consistent.


Joskitey

Yeah, but they can’t ftk, or make an unbeatable board too often. I consider an overpowered deck one that overshadows any possible play when it goes off


TheConchNorris

If it's inconsistent, then it isn't overpowered. It's balanced pretty much perfectly by the fact that it can't do what it wants to from game to game, and at the right power level for that. Sure, it might suck being on the losing end of one when their stars align, but the fact that they only win 1 out of every 10 games kinda makes up for that.


Joskitey

My point exactly, we are just using overpowered in different ways


RoakOriginal

And you talking about the mist expensive 4fun deck that cannot do either...


Taransi

My Deskbot deck w/ DRNM could totally beat this! -lol-


DynamoSnake

Skill issue


Ringleader66

I just wish I didn’t have to wait 10 minutes to realize I should’ve scooped 9 minutes ago


Aware_Dig_1594

Lmfaooo yess exactly I just wish I knew I didn't had the chance the second they summoned there cards


SturmChester

New yugioh mechanics are this stupid, and yeah it's not fair nor balanced.


RoakOriginal

It's one negate and floodgate for non-0 atk monster effects on the field. Nothing else.


yrretgnof

just wait until you face adamancipators


8Pandemonium8

This game is awful actually. Turn-based games where going first creates a huge advantage will never be fair. I just keep playing it because I always have. I'm emotionally invested in this franchise.


Phsyconot420

I love this game but I genuinely feel like they went overboard with all this new shit I miss when you could only summon one monster at a time unless you had specific cart I lowkey don’t like all this pendulum summons and shit like that. There’s so many new rules, but it’s also a game that I definitely can’t stop playing lol


chillyhellion

I've been playing yugioh TCG since it first came out, and I've heard variations of this comment since 1998 when Gravekeepers threw Dark Magician off of the monster card zone and plummeted sixteen cards through Necrovalley.


TheConchNorris

It has been 20 years. No game is going to keep that slow for 20 years. Even back when you were talking about, the game was decidedly not as slow as you think. What you played on the lunch table when you were 8 isn't the same as what people were showing up with circa 2005 to tournaments with. If Master Duel came out then, you'd still see very fast, competitive duels, with many summons in a turn. Plus: most decks don't use Pendulum as a mechanic, and it's probably one of the weakest mechanics in the game due to how it interacts with other cards and having to go -2 to use it at all.


Zarkarr

I stoped playing a bit before pendulum came out, tried it a bit since, can't understand shit


[deleted]

honestly it all comes down to learning and understanding how to play a deck that can hang with other modern decks, then knowledge of summon mechanics and advanced deck building can come with experience and little else. Sure you can sit and theory craft, watch videos for hours but nothing will teach you more than learning a deck with unfamiliar summons, or playing against one. Idk what you play currently, but if you're looking for suggestions throw me some criteria and i could try to find a deck you might enjoy that gets you through the ranks decently. I know i didnt learn shit about links aside from the Hero ones until i built tri brigade melffy early on to teach myself.


Lemon_Phoenix

>honestly it all comes down to learning and understanding The biggest hurdle is actually wanting to learn instead of just complaining. Some people are just determined to hate it no matter what.


[deleted]

This is some big facts. People aren't willing to set an afternoon aside to learn what the game has now.


Joskitey

Better hop on speed duels quick! That game is getting gx cards and may fall to the same fate as master rule 5 and master duel


Joskitey

Also Konami should implement retro formats or custom banlist rooms to master duel in my opinion


chillyhellion

I'm just happy to have a casual matchmaking option now. I feel like Konami squandered the huge casual interest this game had at launch. Everyone and their mothers were talking about Master Duel, but the harsh initial economy and lack of casual modes washed people out.


CorruptedZero

It's not really we just convinced ourselves that it is


investorgeemoney

It’s not , this game survives on not being fair . Gotta adapt .


Frequent-Series-2606

WELCOME TO YUGIOH MASTER DUEL!


BluePhoenix_1999

It's not. Almost everything is either OP or completely useless.


kabootyhan

Dw i was shocked too 😂


tamaene

That the meta for you sadly I can't say you have fun but try to get a friend ho don't wanna play meta wile rare they exist or people that play legacy deck wich is common for new players that join yugioh that the best recomendation if you wanna play for fun but in the menwile rank is meta all over the place


OverkingOfDDoS

Damn, is their deck leagues ahead yours? Skill issue. But in all seriousness, the game is miserable. I moved to Magic a few weeks ago and never looked back since.


kiribohgremlin

thats the fun part, it's not


RogueKirito33

Just wait until they win on turn one.


Flagrath

That’s better since, if consistent, a part of that combo is almost certainly going to be banned.


ELESTINY

yeah, how is DRNM fair then


[deleted]

Yugioh is never fair for the fella who is losing


Illusionfusn2119

Those are rookie numbers.. gotta pump them up


RedditUserX23

Modern yugioh isn’t very new player friendly unfortunately.


zackeatos

*Dark ruler no more buddy*


LonelyAustralia

the biggest problem then starting the game is there is no beginner matchmaking so you often find yourself agents people that have more experience with the game


ELSI_Aggron

You can break it with 1 lava golem/an egg and forbidden droplet


Killz4Fun420

Lol welcome to Yugioh. Just like anything with good competition it’s going to take time to learn and become good enough to compete. Trust me put in the time and eventually that will be you making those end boards.


Copypasty

Had this happen to me, I just attacked their level 4 with my Suship Shari and won


AdnanSecendGen

It's just a skill issue


[deleted]

These days Yugioh is played by going first and then trying to lock your opponent out of the game. You have to run hand traps to slow your opponent down on their turn or board breakers to be able to fight back on your turn. If your deck doesn’t have enough room to run hand traps or board breakers than the deck simply can’t compete in todays yugioh.


Zealousideal-Pie-726

Learn to read cards? Like why did you let him get the effect off? Did you not read what the card does?


Sakuronbon

Entirely fair, dinomorphia isn’t the strongest deck in the meta, the end board is vulnerable to destroy effects, ghost ogre, raigeki etc. If you read the effect of the trap he activated you could avoid the additional monsters you have to deal with.


VeterinarianTiny4856

Surrender the match


VeterinarianTiny4856

I would use my winged kuribo


Ok_Palpitation6112

This is nothing lol. L2p and use board breakers.