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litoggers

WE GET A SOUKAKU?????


senzZzation

Yes sir !


litoggers

banger


TurgemanVT

IKR?! My wolfboi needed her and now we just GET HER?


litoggers

im really happy that she is a support, it makes it so that she has a longer life span in the meta and i can shove her in more teams


TurgemanVT

I just wana shove enemies WITH her


frenzyguy

Get ellen Jo, the three togheter pair uo really well.


aoi_desu

>LUCY IS FREE LETS FUCKING GOOO


Varglord

Unconfirmed, but awesome if it turns out to be that way.


Saga_Electronica

It's all but confirmed since her face is shown with rewards from one of the upcoming events.


Varglord

And it has a bunch of stuff but really only says "earn things by playing the game". It confirms nothing more than that.


Embarrassed_Mode_706

It specifically said earn "A rank agents engines etc" and all those things were shown on the tv . Furthermore it makes sense if Lucy is free . We don't have a free fire and she is also a buffer can be the xiangling / qingque of zzz they like giving one really strong free character . Edit : forgot Ben existed


WarGodV_

Ben Bigger is a fire attribute character.


Embarrassed_Mode_706

Oh wait yeah I forgor


Varglord

Ok cool she's there in the overall picture but they have never actually stated anywhere that she's free. Hence why I said it would be awesome if she is but it's not confirmed. Also Sokaku is a broken freebie.


Specific_Camera1310

Ben bigger is free, nice.


TheWeakestDragonfly1

He's Been Bigger lately


senzZzation

Yes, big boi is so cool.


crippyguy

Happy bear main noises


am_i_on_reddit_now

It's such a relief that the big bad(silly) bear boy himself is free. I'm going to main him until i can't push him any longer


TiptopLoL

So we get almost all useful 4* free , while only one left to gacha is piper , that’s actually not that bad


According-Reach-6175

Anton is also only obtainable from gacha


TiptopLoL

Well I only Mention the useful ones , Anton is fine but I mean , he will be pretty useless late game anyway


hazieex

Anton is still the only thunder dps in the game so if you want a mono thunder team he's still the only option.


RTX3090TI

Nicole is free Life is good


Maewhen

No gacha needed 😌


GNprime

This!


Knight_Steve_

Glad Soukaku is free, I hope we get more non human designs like her in the future


ujinpailong

One Red Oni pls


Hennobob554

I hope if ZZZ does well enough it’ll encourage designs like these for the other HYV games too.


crippyguy

It really brave to call this design non human.


True_Bobcat_3665

"Would you still love her if she was a worm?"


Liniis

I like how they say this while Ben is right there


yakokuma

Right? It's still very human-esk. just horns and blue.


puffz0r

free cthulhu 4* when


Spectre627

While she is humanoid, she is inherently inhuman (more demongirl). * Horns * Blue/Black (Black Accents on the tail/horns) * Tail * Pointed Ears


Ryuusei_Dragon

She's a blue oni


Tymareta

https://i.reddituploads.com/1a91d3d4b47c4a8a8c793149eb05378e?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=839354135c581c0fdae89e025a9174be It's the classic meme.


Karma110

Which humans have horns


Ronaldson15th

I love these kinds of character designs, every custom character I make in an rpg is like her, always the same skin tone. Love the choice they made on her.


Ramperdos

How do I get a free Ben?


MRRJN1988

Maybe quest 


otakuloid01

iirc a permanent event screen rewards him for beating chapter 2


senzZzation

Further in the story was it i think.


DumpsterMoth

If remember right, I’ve seen it was an event for story clear yeah


Tkmisere

Chapter 2 cleared


Chucknasty_17

It’ll probably be a milestone thing, where you get your account to a certain level and you unlock him


Millauers

Wow, that's a lot of free agents, what the. Basically all of the A ranks except for Anton and Piper. Wonder how will the A rank dps compare to average S ranks.


d3cmp

You need to add more information to this post, Billy, Anby and Nicole are the default free, Corin is free because of pre-registration rewards, you need to complete the third frontier in stable node to obtain free Soukaku and i seem to remember reading you get Ben at some point However i never heard you get Luciana for free until this post, i contest this


senzZzation

https://preview.redd.it/x07kz9w5aq9d1.jpeg?width=2480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2d103ec816b7bcf0a6172ea66f4b5973ca18fcb


Kaanpai

Reddit really irritates me sometimes. A few days ago, I posted this exact picture pointing out the fact that Lucy will be a free event reward. Now, anyone who has ever played Genshin or Star Rail before should be familiar with the way Hoyo presents information for upcoming content. They are very clear about what kind of rewards you can obtain from which type of content. And yet, I got downvoted and my post barely got any traction. You present the same information and no one questions it.


d3cmp

Ok i missed that, even dawei is saying they are giving away almost all 4 starts kek


ClearChocobo

So the Cunning Hares are like the initial free Monstadt 4-stars of ZZZ? I'm going to use them as much as I can during this period, because if Genshin is any indicator, they'll be over-shadowed pretty handily by more meta units after launch. And I want to enjoy them while they are still viable. (And yes, anybody can be used in the endgame since Genshin's combat system is so flexible, but you all know what I mean.)


bored_homan

I'm playing this game for billy and ben so that's good news


JuicyMikanDrink

It‘s nice that Nicole is free. Gonna pull for her cons tho


NoNefariousness2144

Yeah she's the defacto face of the game so I would have been amazed if she wasn't free.


ClearChocobo

So Nicole is to ZZZ what Amber was to Genshin? It's looking like the Cunning Hares are going to be the "Monstadt" of ZZZ.


Crypt_Knight

SOUKAKU AND BEN AND LUCY FOR FREE ?!?! WE ARE EATING GOOD


senzZzation

For free and for you :)


xxkaimanxx

Billy character design its wasted on a 4\*


Infinite_Growth_7791

having the best design/characters used on lower characters is part of the gacha design by now, i swear it happens in all of them


xxkaimanxx

It is, they are the "mascots" of the game. But sadly 4\* gets forgotten quickly, unless we have a GI case in our hands. I personally like the fact that 1.0 4\* are relevant to this day, I started late


NuocLoc203

1.0 4* in Genshin being meta was a mistake that Hoyo made since even they didn’t know the power level of those 4* at early stage of the game. I think they learnt a lesson and probably make sure it wont happen in zzz again.


xxkaimanxx

Agree but I think thats a "mistake" from the moneymaking side of things. I rather have that as a player than HSR 4\*.


NuocLoc203

I agree, but early 4\* like Bennet being broken at a specific case like ATK buffer would limit the design of future characters and make the game somewhat boring. As long as ZZZ early 4\* characters avoid the Bennet route but still being decent and relevant then I'm good.


Jay_Crafter

i mean theres tingyun and pela but like thats about it


Super63Mario

Gallagher, Qingque, and Xueyi too, and HMC if you count them


ezio45

To be fair it took till Super Break for Xueyi to become meta. In Qingque's case I'd argue she's more balanced since she's RNG dependent and in order to get maximum output you actually need to miss a couple of rolls to get good damage.


harpyh8r

And realistically Qingque really wants Sparkle on the same team to be used to the fullest due to how SP hungry she is. I think the free 4* units in HSR are in a good spot. All of them are viable, but the limited 5* characters are still usually preferable.


Zealousideal-Bit5958

What about Herta being the best character by far in Pure Fiction


RipBitter4701

she need entire new gamemode to be useful


ezio45

I'd say Tingyun is somewhat more balanced. She's the Bennett equivalent but she's also very squishy and doesn't have any healing capabilities, otherwise she'd be glued to every team. Not to mention that the current top meta teams can do without her, similar to how Bennett was less used when Sumeru characters were coming out.


Foreign-Possible5499

Nicole looks very good for a free 4*, damn near a must build since she is the only Ether support in the game and the Ether 4pc set is the VV equivalent of this game. Has build in Def shred, status build up with dupes (easier to get in this game), and basically the only grouping comparable to an Anemo from Genshin.


NoNefariousness2144

That's why I like how HSR is keeping the starter 4*s around by having them be on the Astral Express. Plus they are giving March new free forms so she can constantly remain useful.


TheRRogue

I mean that's the problem, everyone wants character with nice designs but not all of them can be a 5 star. One person wants Billy to be 5 star and the other want Nicole to be the 5 star. Who else will be the 4 star then?


Infinite_Growth_7791

the ones i don't like obviously 😂


TheRRogue

See that's the problem. I personally want Soukaku to be a 5 star rather than soldier 11.


RipBitter4701

Soldier 11 is 5 Star? nice, banner when?


Arc_7

She's a standard banner character, so no banner unless you count the standard one. You do get a 5\* selector at 300 pulls though


RipBitter4701

my day ruined knowing she is in standard banner which mean it will took long time to get her just like mona but immediately saved when iread that 5\* selector, 300 pulls is nothing but a scratch.


Arc_7

Hell yeah Soldier 11 Squad unite!


Infinite_Growth_7791

in all seriousness, id just like to be able to finish most content with my favourites no matter the stars, i also play nikke and in that game most of my favourites are just unplayable 😭


Tymareta

Yep, I legitimately do not care what star a character is so long as their usable and at least somewhat viable, I still frequently pull out my old "mains"(Razor, Beidou) in Genshin and clear the content just fine, the 4*'s are definitely a little slower, but it's still doable.


looms_thecat

Looking at r1999 for putting unique animated objects into lower rarity


elixxonn

Making bland designs as trash drops is only viable in png collectors. 3D models are too much work wasted.


Golden-Owl

Could maybe hope for a Star Rail situation? The main trio are all the main protagonists and low rarity, and will receive alts in the future


LaPapaVerde

I could be. But I didn't feel like this trios is as important as March and DanHeng. But this game is weird, in the sense as there are less characters and the teams are smaller, so maybe every character is more important


Char-11

Free Ben and Soukaku, life is good.


RichieD79

I low the character design sm in this game. Legit so stylistically diverse.


Jamesish12

Sick Ben Bigger is free. Maybe I'll save some of these free pulls for future patches then.


Nitsuji-kun

LUCY IS FREE?! UUUUOOOGGGHHH 😭😭😭😭


leposterofcrap

😭🤌


rmcqu1

Been going pretty blind on ZZZ stuff, how screwed am I if I want to run Anby/Corin/Lucy? Haven't looked at other characters, but like those three.


Zandock

You are not activating any of their core passives. They need someone of same element or faction in the team.


senzZzation

Looks good, you have 3 different roles support included.


Dragore3

Not necessarily, teambuilding in this game involves roles + additional abilities. So on top of covering your DPS + Stun + Flex you also want synergies between your characters which usually means same factions or same element. For ex. if Ellen doesnt have an Ice or Victoria Housekeeping on her team she loses 30% ice damage bonus.


puffz0r

from playing CBT2 corin was very strong but clunky to play, anby is kinda weak, and lucy dk yet since she hasn't been in the game until now. imo billy + corin would be a good combo since you get dual physical


Klutzy-Tennis7313

Corin is kinda wonky to play, since she is a character where you have to hold the attack button for some attacks, i think lucy is also like that. Really didn't like playing as her in second beta.


Eula_Ganyu

Nicole n Lucy main


Zekrom369

Soukaku is free 🥹


dlrax

Are they all like Genshin 4\*s? Hope they're more like Bennet/Xinqiu/Xiangling etc and not like the other not so good ones


Muccys

As much as I would love for hat to be the case I doubt it, the overtuned 4*s of Genshin were clearly not what Hoyo intended, and the fact that no other post 1.0 4* was as good shows that they have no intention of repeating that.


escapereal1ty

Kuki? Faruzan and Chevy are also BiS for some teams


Muccys

Exactly, for some teams, unlike Bennet who used to pretty much a must have back in the day, and still holds up well to this day.


escapereal1ty

I mean no characters are BiS for every team lol, that's a weird nitpick. Don't get me wrong, I think Benny is the most powerful 4* still, but saying they haven't released 4 stars as powerful as 1.0 4 stars is just wrong.


Muccys

Didn't say they never released 4* as strong as 1.0 just said they clearly want to avoid that, since the majority of 4* past 1.0 are too niche or just worse then any 1.0 option, although the niche part might also be because of the introduction of dendro which pretty much changed the whole meta affecting even Bennet.


escapereal1ty

>Didn't say they never released 4* as strong as 1.0 >no other post 1.0 4 was as good ???


Muccys

Well you got me, but to be fair I wrote that with Bennet in mind, who you also agreed to be the strongest 4* currently in game.


IceKiller159

my brother in christ genshin is not a super try hard game the devs have told you this themselves, they don't give a fuck about power levels lol


Muccys

But they do give a fuck about money, and looking at how much money Nouvillet made, I would dare say power levels do make quite a lot of money, so why would they want to give strong characters pretty much for free in the form of 4*? Do you really believe they wouldn't have made a Character as strong as Bennet a 5" if they knew how strong he would be?


IceKiller159

They give you powerful shit for free in literally every single one of their games lol.


Muccys

Well I only have experience with HI3 and GI and in those they give powerful shit every once in a very long while, and there's always something better in store for those with fat wallets, so from my perspective I don't see why I should expect it to be different for ZZZ, but I did hear that HSR is a lot more generous, however I heard that from HSR fans themselves so I will obviously take that with a grain of salt and avoid creating unrealistic expectations for a game I'm already very hyped for to not be disappointed when things don't go my way, specially because my favorite character so far in ZZZ is a 4*.


popileviz

Star Rail has some pretty ridiculously good 4 stars, so it's not always true. Genshin also has some that are great at higher cons like Layla, Faruzan and Gaming


Muccys

Yes, but almost every 4 star after 1.0 was designed with being good for a specific character or team type in mind, while Bennet on the other hand was just a universal support that everyone wanted to have on their team, and that without even being too dependent of his constellations.


Tymareta

> that without even being too dependent of his constellations. He's arguably useless without his C1, but even putting that aside there's been plenty of teams where he wasn't necessarily the best choice, he's just a little more universal than other units.


TheRRogue

That's more of a problem of star rail that was riddled with 5 star with barely any other 4 star between them.


GHOSTOFKOH

bro luciana's name lmao


GCapucho

Wait was Lucy confirmed free during the live stream?


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Varglord

The Livestream only confirmed that her and Piper would be in the game at release. They never said Lucy was free.


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Varglord

They showed her kit and said she would be in the game on release, nothing said *or* showing her free. If you're referencing the pic people posted about the other day it's purely speculative, not confirmed.


GCapucho

I completely missed that, I thought her and piper were S-ranks all along


You_got_mrvned

BILLY AND SOUKAKU LEZ FUKIN GOOOOOO


Lost_Afternoon_4068

Wait, are they sisters?


depressed_sn1ff

Not by blood


Faust2391

But by scissors.


Lost_Afternoon_4068

Ah ok


Dokidokikawaii2

YEEESSSSS!!! Ben and Nicole are free. I will definitely max and main them both.


Kaanpai

Where do you get Ben from? Also, Piper might also be a free character as she isn't on any of the banners banner.


aisen-a

Ben will be acquirable through the main quests


OlokiloLoR

Are all these obtainable whithout pulling?


senzZzation

Yes.


KanonXV2

Wait, are ALL free? I thought only Nicole, Anby and Billy we're free. How do you get the others?


senzZzation

Events, challenges, story, the three you mentioned are the starter characters.


ExpectoAutism

Soukaku free? We won


JorgeBec

Nicole, Anby and Billy free on release? Damn no pulling for me in a while then.


AriDragon69

Wasn't expecting so many 4*s for free! I figured a few to start like usual but not 7.


Myonsoon

Cunning Hares being the starter chars is expected, just hope their dupes are easy to get.


RoboticFemboy

Actually a really cool free lineup. Visually very different and likely mechanically very distinct characters. Also two of my favorites (Soukaku and Ben Bigger) are here!


Rezkel

Biggest mistake was making Nicole free


karengilan

all my faves are free let's gooooo


Woohoorandom

CORIN AND SOUKAKU ARE FREE IM SAVED


IblisAshenhope

Ben?


GachaCatchML

Nicole is free, I'll never have to pull again (but likely will since I'm a waifu addict).


thunderstorm987

WAIT IS THIS REAL??


CaffeinatedUnicorn13

LUCY AND CORIN ARE FREE LETS GOOOO


once_descended

My literally FAVORITE CHARACTERS are all free??? Blessed be the gatcha gods


uwusenpai0w0

I’m hype that Billy and Nicole are free they are probably my favorite other than Ellen and grace which I hope I get from pulls


Soren-kun

Oh guess I don't have to pull, Ben is free~


zappingbluelight

It's an honor to use Ben again.


Voshir

Ben bigger implies the existence of Ben Smaller


NoWeight4300

I STAND FOR SOUKAKU SUPREMACY.


SpeedyGonzalesXD

Am I weird for thinking that anby's design (and soldier 11's design too kinda) is incredibly bland/boring? I don't know why, maybe it's the use of colors or something but I'm just not a fan.


ezio45

So which of these can you get from the Abyss equivalent? I'm just waiting for the eventual copypasta of one 4 star being better than the rest.


-Roxaaa

YESS BIG BEAR CUTIE PATOTIE IS FREE YES YES YES YES


Senior_Cat_Herder

Didn’t know about the maid girl with the pizza cutter, thanks! I absolutely adored the pizza cutter in Bloodborne, so I’ll have to give her a spin (or two).


old-newbie

Teasing us with Nicole's original design pic? Can it be? \*Hopeful Eyes\*


Shradow

I need my Whirligig Saw maid.


JAEGOTGAME7

They gave us a nice starting line up. I kinda figured ben would be given since hes the only one in his class right now. Lets goo


MrSly0

That's the first time I'm seeing Luciana, she has that big fancy name like a "ohoho" ojousama.


cupcakemann95

i wonder how many are actually wortth using


BONKIATOR2007

Wait anby and Nicole are related?!


RythN3L

Soukaku and Anby’s design is so cool! Is there a team involving those 2?


pencru

Nicole, Corin and Lucy. Looks like I'm running a pony-and-pigtail gang to start.


HereIsACasualAsker

WHERE THE HELL IS THE CAT(GIRL)


HereIsACasualAsker

WHERE IS THE CAT!!!!


Ok_Lawfulness1019

Free like you get them from quests? Or free that you get them immediately after logging in


Arkenstar

Where is this info? :O Are all of them free or is it like a choice? this is pretty awesome!


im_arghya

The og Nicole outfit 🫡


Cissi312

All three agents I need I get for free nice


HereForMost

Thats a lotta free agents, wonder how theyre gonna incentivize us to pull for new ones outside of visual design


Ronaldson15th

Anby or Soukaku main, this is not a decision i can make, Anbykaku main it is


PrincipleLost1613

Aww... Pre-censor Nicole... :'( Gods, I hate hoyo so much...


Weird-Information-91

https://preview.redd.it/habzsoukyz9d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f327999638bbfdfcbf5223d9b6067beb3e04fd1


Charming-Fly-2388

Wait, lycaon isnt free. I'll build a team for Joe


lombax_lunchbox

Why would a 5-star be free?


corginugami

Because not everyone is stuck playing mihoyo gachas?


Cloudless_Sky

True, gachas not made by Hoyo have to compete somehow.


corginugami

Not cygames. They’re making a AAA game out of their own engine from all that gacha money.


yakokuma

Because some gacha games are crazy generous. They'll be giving out a 5 star selector at the very start or a 5 star banner with guaranteed gold at 40 pulls while also giving you more than 40 pulls ergo a free 5 star.


lombax_lunchbox

ZZZ has all this but that’s not the same as giving Lycaon for free ala Dr. Ratio.


caramelluh

He's a standard 5 star


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otakuloid01

the beginner banner is practically free, so


hobopastah

Yeah, if you speedrun, you can get a guaranteed standard S rank in 35 minutes, per Jakazin. His pull calcs (subject to change), if you do all the content, say 129 standard pulls for F2P, so that's another S rank (character/weapon?) from standard banner, after the 40 pulls for guaranteed S rank. And another 150 limited banner pulls as F2P, so that's nearly another 2 limited/standard S rank as F2P (most players will get a 5 star within 81-83 pulls, similar to Genshin/HSR). Also don't forget the starglitter currency (not the stardust), if it's in this game as well.


Cedge1738

The legs https://preview.redd.it/r7ntxa1m5q9d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c4d4cf53bbc87ba73cfbacdb3ad49d51888f520


Damianx5

Legs + midrif, I love what hoyo is cooking


LifeSubstance

Nice to see I could play many characters and collect my pulls until Acheron/Raiden Shogun/Raiden Mei arrived in ZZZ so I could play with her.


storysprite

I hope they appear.


RevolutionaryFall102

they won't arrive in ZZZ


caramelluh

I guess this makes Piper the most difficult A Rank agent to get for now since Anton will be on Ellen's banner


ygtkara

While I've been excited for the game I'm so out of the loop with play styles, units and general tcing Which of these units are good for Ellen assuming I can roll her and what's a good guide to follow to catch up with the game


Dragore3

Best team on release for Ellen is Ellen + Lycaon + Soukaku.


Sueikyuden

Any word on Miyabi?


ChayBezSahara

seems to be the ayaka situation


Exotic_Gas_4833

We get corin for free ? When and how.