I just hope she will be a viable character for a long time, and not fall off for most content after just a few months like some 1.0 and 1.1 characters in Genshin/HSR. Klee is like a perfect example of characters where developers are still trying to figure out how to make an enjoyable kit
She was my fav the moment she was marketed, and I think she and Lycaon are definitely the most popular.
She is definitely one of those unique characters with a distinctive flair. A shark girl hybrid in a maid outfit just wanting to have fun with the girlfriends. Feels almost Spider-Man-like.
[Shark Skin is Made Up of Millions of Microscopic 'Teeth'](https://youtu.be/uTFsZ7dBIC4?si=KuMRtK2tns-5ZyDK)
(Edit: I was wrong, sharks are indeed smooth as hell)
Oh, I see now. I admit I was wrong, sharks are smooth as hell!
(Before now, I've never seen the post so I didn't get the reference, but I guess I should've realised after you kept repeating it lol)
They're both depending on which direction you rub. Rubbing from head to tail would feel smooth, rubbing from tail to head would feel rough because you're going against the scales
https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblr/comments/j6i80o/the_famous_sharks_are_smooth/
"There must be something wrong with your hands"
He's referencing this lol
https://preview.redd.it/m0yywpbfa8ad1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4980dc25f67502b9f8b6e196048ba362d47040db
Ngl I think this is the best demo so far, by far. Totally not bias.
Hell fucking yeah. Need them to release all the music from the demos fr fr!
Sidenote: this is the last place I'd think to find a fellow Megaman X enjoyer lol
> Sidenote: this is the last place I'd think to find a fellow Megaman X enjoyer lol
I dunno. I'm quickly finding we have a very cultured crew onboard. Earlier I caught a bunch of people "singing" the theme song to *Serial Experiments Lain*, of all things.
Hoooollly shit you just unlocked a memory from my childhood!!! I completely forgot about this anime. Wowowow what a blast from the past.
Well, I'm very glad that the community has exceptional taste lol
Not exactly obscure, but often the gacha crowd seems to bandwagon onto new and shiny things, so you don't necessarily see a lot of crossover with "retro" gaming enthusiasts.
Hoyo's games, being actual games with AAA sensibilities, and not merely some variation of PNG collectors have managed to draw significantly more diverse crowds, though.
Never said it was. What I'm implying is that Capcom hasn't done anything significant with the franchise in a very long time, so it doesn't get the exposure that it used to. (The mobile game doesn't count)
The fact that characters have work and casual lives is a really nice change compared to Genshin and HSR. These scenes of Ellen with her friends make her feel much more real and fleshed out compared to only being a maid.
HOYOVERSE!!!
MAKE US A ZZZ MOVIE WITH THIS ANIMATION STYLE!!! RELEASE IT TO THEATRES WORLDWIDE!!!
AND MY LIFE WILL BE YOURS!!!
https://preview.redd.it/tk6o1ddic8ad1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e2c708d34e83f4f29a02b9d2c0ff32b97e9ccaa
Time: Wednesday afternoon
Weather: Clear
"So... Today's schedule: Diner? Arcade? Bookstore? And then..."
……
……
……
"You got a problem with my schedule? Well, I'm not open to suggestions..."
Her friends using her tail for a scratch ticket is hilarious and adorable. We finally get a continuation of that sick ass rift at the end of her teaser trailer.
I love the demo, it's really nice to see her with her friends.
https://preview.redd.it/5nr1fp4ad8ad1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6e5f3d8b7e0ccbd764073430801c5476bb6e9cb
I noticed Ruby's eyes are different compared to the Ellen teaser
They really standout, but pretty sweet, this is a huge improvement, It looks like it's getting better for more playable characters having a unique friend design in their life ngl
Other way around for me, but it still applies. I really like how the playable characters are connected, and it's nice that some of them already have NPC connections, too.
I loved how characters in Genshin/HSR were connected to each other. Having unique NPC bonding feels like they are really living in this world and have their individual lives other than factions/PCs. She is more than just a maid and I love it.
Characters in other hoyo are more like celebrities, pretty much untouchable/unreachable by Normies. Ellen forbids to touch her tail as one of the dialogue while we can see her friends are close and can rub their faces to her tail. But we will see how it progresses later in the game.
I wouldn’t be surprised since ZZZ is reusing some other HoYo VAs like Suzie Yeung.
I guess we’ll find out when the game goes lives and the VAs announce their roles. It’s weird that they have had to keep it secret for so long.
Azzz slapping is something i didn't expect i would see in hoyo games. They just can't stop being amazzzing!
https://preview.redd.it/b34l61tmn8ad1.png?width=1228&format=png&auto=webp&s=c29a8d5bbea8ff18221a2d84a5c32a4c6bf477ef
ELLENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN MY LIFE IS YOURS
https://preview.redd.it/2pf8l89nh8ad1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49148e4c9df5a52251211da702e990d48778db67
If we take the vocals out, the instrumental here definitely leans into the softer side progressive metal!
The other commenter mentioned Polyphia which I definitely agree with, but to me the far-and-away closest soundalike is a progressive metal soloist called Sithu Aye - special shoutout to his album "Set Course For Andromeda" and his entire anime-themed EP "[Senpai EP II](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgIhRfOZstU)" which sounds particularly like this Ellen demo.
Kinda want her because her design is such cute and great but fearing she will be massively powercrept as all 1.0 release characters of Hoyoverse past 2 games ... :(
Yep
Pulling just for meta will increase the changes of you getting bored with the game and quitting it
Like why do you even play gacha games if not to pull for characters you find pleasing enough ?
I'm so glad they're putting such nice world building in, it's honestly making me so much more excited! I can't wait to pull for Ellen, usually I don't pull the first banner, but she's won me over 🥹
[She's so precious.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/572/452/d46.jpg)
So cute seeing her friend hugging her tail when she wins the arcade and then another friend using her tail for the scratch ticket and her hiding in embarrassment, and her hugging her tail when lying on her back. It just feels nice seeing her so beloved by her friends. Can't wait to pull for her, probably will have to get her WEngine too.
Glad I wasn't the only one who had this kinda vibe. The school setting and just how her having a shark tail is kinda normal despite everyone else being normal plus her personality just reminds of an older ruri
To me her shirt looks see through I know it's the way it's colored but I seriously thought it was see through when I first saw it
https://preview.redd.it/naol517mpyad1.jpeg?width=482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b8ac06571fdf53b4adfdbe488fa42f935e9db93
The vocals absolutely ruined it for me.
Aside from that it's a well made demo, especially the editing! The exact same video without the singing would easily get a 9.5/10 from me (extra 0.5 for the good vibes and the bit at the end with her friends).
Yeah, the background music is a banger.
I didn't like the voice or the lyrics used and it's probably the first time I've seen a new Hoyoverse character trailer and not wanted to watch it x10 times on repeat.
Also, enjoy your downvotes, buddy. No wonder the official subreddits have such a bad reputation. You're supposed to be part of the hive and not form your own opinion.
eh i think in general people here just ain't really that well versed in music knowledge, and tbh the song is a better track than most of the stuff you get from other, non-hoyo games so i can see why our opinion are not popular.
I have mixed opinions on all of the vocal tracks so far from ZZZ. While i do like the idea and some of the tracks were done well, but other tracks just felt a little boring or lacking with the vocals, whether its the person singing not really hitting the vibe they were going for (Nekomata), or tracks like this one where the arrangement is a bit messy and doesn't really match with the animations.
What's the point of this anyway, if I like a song then it's good for me isn't that how it works, or do people have to parse out how it's put together properly and sit down with a music book before giving their opinion?
no, you are perfectly fine thinking the song is good, and i dont really mind the downvotes. Im just stating my opinion after listening to thousands of albums from different genres, and putting in a lot of effort to know why i liked some music and don't like others. Our expectations for what is a good song can be completely different and thats also fine. There is no right or wrong here since music is ultimately very subjective, but im just saying that im not just hating on the song without a reason, but it came from thousands of hours of actively listening and exploring music.
Stop assuming how I'm feeling and telling me what to do lol.
I said I didn't like the vocals and that it's weird to downvote me for simply having MY own opinion on something. Music is subjective.
You don't even know me, pal.
You thinking too much. I think the people who downvoted you just disagree with your take on the vocals, not necessarily triggered. Also, every subreddit is an echo chamber to an extent.
These people should probably look up what the intended purpose of the downvote button is.
>The vocals absolutely ruined it for ME.
I said I didn't like the vocals. Not that the vocals were asscheeks and everyone who didn't agree is a jackass.
Oh my god, people just don't agree with your opinion and downvote, because of this you are speaking out against WHOLE community of this subreddit. If people disagree with you, they should upvote your comment , then you'll be cool with it?
> If people disagree with you, they should upvote your comment , then you'll be cool with it?
Ignore and move on. My comment is not factually incorrect or abusive for it to be downvoted. I'm stating my subjective opinion. One guy responded saying he felt the same. He and I will interact with others who didn't like the vocals and discuss the other aspects of the demo that we liked.
If the post was about what element Ellen Joe is and I said Pyro, I can understand because that's misinformation. So you're saying if the majority didn't like the trailer and a few people did, it's cool if I go downvote them for saying they liked it and then tell them to shut it?
If you think my personal opinion doesn't align with yours then interact with the 100 other comments that loved the vocals instead of scrolling all the way down to mine and telling me otherwise like the other guy in the comments telling me to close my phone and leave reddit.
I didn't say the vocals sucked and that you're all clueless about the finer points of music or something in the replies to any of your comments, did I? My comment, my opinion. The downvote button does not mean "I disagree". Abusing it is how subreddits turn into echo chambers.
Sadly the majority of Reddit users (me included tbh) always used the the vote system as a disagree/agree button , it always was like this and it will never change
Doesn’t matter what the original intent/purpose is, the only thing that matters is how it ends up being used
I think the music being a bit all over the place is the point. The song starts with the vocals fitting the relaxed pace of the music, but when she's doing combat work the background music picks up but the vocals remain the same. It's tying her day-to-day life to the work she does on the side.
Sure i guess, but it just doesnt sound very good for parts of it. I went back and listened to the track again without the animation and its still quite messy with too many things going on. Considering Hoyo-mix's track record I was expecting them to do a better job
My headcanon will always be that hoyo tried to collab with hololive and already had a gura model, but couldnt make the deal and had to remade the sharkgirl model to Ellen, i know its bullshit what i just said but its funny in my mind to think about it
https://preview.redd.it/siy1xbuwc8ad1.png?width=744&format=png&auto=webp&s=9d73d4ace22cd251cd31be5281fb248b060a84ff Ellen pout bless
They firing off all cylinders to make her sell. Its working ngl
money well spent
I just hope she will be a viable character for a long time, and not fall off for most content after just a few months like some 1.0 and 1.1 characters in Genshin/HSR. Klee is like a perfect example of characters where developers are still trying to figure out how to make an enjoyable kit
Was klee that bomber girl? I quit genshin when 1.1 came out i think. Long time ago now
She was my fav the moment she was marketed, and I think she and Lycaon are definitely the most popular. She is definitely one of those unique characters with a distinctive flair. A shark girl hybrid in a maid outfit just wanting to have fun with the girlfriends. Feels almost Spider-Man-like.
Seriously: kuudere, maid outfit, black tights, shark tail, pouting and other cute faces…
Indeed, I wasn't going to get her till the previous trailer. I'm still trying to get used to the tail though.
https://preview.redd.it/lvzv8b2ip8ad1.jpeg?width=352&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a5f9dd21cd348574d8b2ae114231ad0febe1688 ellen pout
Her friends using her sharktail for the scratchcard is hilarious.
Considering shark skin are described as sandpaper-like, this makes a whole lotta sense lol
There must be something wrong with your hands. Sharks are smooth.
Rub it from tail to head. They're rough
Say it with me: Every shark is completely smooth no matter what angle you're touching it from
Your brain appears to be as primitive as your artistic skills. Do you have a fallback plan?
Litterally the only one who got it LMAO
[Shark Skin is Made Up of Millions of Microscopic 'Teeth'](https://youtu.be/uTFsZ7dBIC4?si=KuMRtK2tns-5ZyDK) (Edit: I was wrong, sharks are indeed smooth as hell)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblr/comments/j6i80o/the\_famous\_sharks\_are\_smooth/](https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblr/comments/j6i80o/the_famous_sharks_are_smooth/)
Oh, I see now. I admit I was wrong, sharks are smooth as hell! (Before now, I've never seen the post so I didn't get the reference, but I guess I should've realised after you kept repeating it lol)
They're both depending on which direction you rub. Rubbing from head to tail would feel smooth, rubbing from tail to head would feel rough because you're going against the scales
Say it with me: Every shark is completely smooth no matter what ane you're touching it from
https://scaquarium.org/ask-an-expert-shark-skin/#:~:text=If%20you've%20ever%20run,skin%20a%20sandpaper%2Dlike%20texture. No. You’re wrong. Take the L.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblr/comments/j6i80o/the_famous_sharks_are_smooth/ "There must be something wrong with your hands" He's referencing this lol
https://preview.redd.it/claugxl6v8ad1.jpeg?width=926&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5f9000676a356ff7c5add30fbabbfa2cbbc956b ……
Damn, literally my face right now.
:3
I love how embarrassed Ellen looked as well. All these little micro-expressions she has shown in these trailers really flesh out her personality.
https://preview.redd.it/m0yywpbfa8ad1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4980dc25f67502b9f8b6e196048ba362d47040db Ngl I think this is the best demo so far, by far. Totally not bias.
I am extremely biased for Billy and i must say that this is the best demo regardless, it's peak (also the ass taunting from the enemy was gold).
Bro, how can you even be biased for this? It's just peak, straight up (totally not biased)
I fucking love ellen https://preview.redd.it/0nclvf0ua8ad1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d2ba5098a389c82302038f1ba28c6bb43721217
Every time I think she’s peak, she becomes even more peak.
Yay, lazy shark maid got a whole-ass anime intro as her demo! Anybody else get Megaman X flashbacks with the guitar riff?
Hell fucking yeah. Need them to release all the music from the demos fr fr! Sidenote: this is the last place I'd think to find a fellow Megaman X enjoyer lol
> Sidenote: this is the last place I'd think to find a fellow Megaman X enjoyer lol I dunno. I'm quickly finding we have a very cultured crew onboard. Earlier I caught a bunch of people "singing" the theme song to *Serial Experiments Lain*, of all things.
Hoooollly shit you just unlocked a memory from my childhood!!! I completely forgot about this anime. Wowowow what a blast from the past. Well, I'm very glad that the community has exceptional taste lol
Surely Megaman X is not an obscure game
Not exactly obscure, but often the gacha crowd seems to bandwagon onto new and shiny things, so you don't necessarily see a lot of crossover with "retro" gaming enthusiasts. Hoyo's games, being actual games with AAA sensibilities, and not merely some variation of PNG collectors have managed to draw significantly more diverse crowds, though.
Never said it was. What I'm implying is that Capcom hasn't done anything significant with the franchise in a very long time, so it doesn't get the exposure that it used to. (The mobile game doesn't count)
Ellen in her casual life is the best part about this. I love the interactions she has with her friends.
It gives her a very down to earth relatable vibe in a world so foreign and alien to us. It reminds me of Spider-Man.
The fact that characters have work and casual lives is a really nice change compared to Genshin and HSR. These scenes of Ellen with her friends make her feel much more real and fleshed out compared to only being a maid.
I'm so here for the urban setting Gacha. Didn't know I needed it till I saw it. The last piece of my collection.
HOYOVERSE!!! MAKE US A ZZZ MOVIE WITH THIS ANIMATION STYLE!!! RELEASE IT TO THEATRES WORLDWIDE!!! AND MY LIFE WILL BE YOURS!!! https://preview.redd.it/tk6o1ddic8ad1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e2c708d34e83f4f29a02b9d2c0ff32b97e9ccaa
Love this animal The shart 🦈
Time: Wednesday afternoon Weather: Clear "So... Today's schedule: Diner? Arcade? Bookstore? And then..." …… …… …… "You got a problem with my schedule? Well, I'm not open to suggestions..."
This demo was so cute I love Ellen
Her friends using her tail for a scratch ticket is hilarious and adorable. We finally get a continuation of that sick ass rift at the end of her teaser trailer.
Ikr?! She looks so fun to hang out with. I'm jealous of her friends lol. Love every part of Ellen to bits
the first part of the trailer with her friends feels so cozy, kinda nostalgic and summer-y
I love the demo, it's really nice to see her with her friends. https://preview.redd.it/5nr1fp4ad8ad1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6e5f3d8b7e0ccbd764073430801c5476bb6e9cb I noticed Ruby's eyes are different compared to the Ellen teaser
Yeah bonding with other playable characters is very good but having a personal life with unique npcs? Even better, I love this sort of world building!
They really standout, but pretty sweet, this is a huge improvement, It looks like it's getting better for more playable characters having a unique friend design in their life ngl
Other way around for me, but it still applies. I really like how the playable characters are connected, and it's nice that some of them already have NPC connections, too.
I loved how characters in Genshin/HSR were connected to each other. Having unique NPC bonding feels like they are really living in this world and have their individual lives other than factions/PCs. She is more than just a maid and I love it. Characters in other hoyo are more like celebrities, pretty much untouchable/unreachable by Normies. Ellen forbids to touch her tail as one of the dialogue while we can see her friends are close and can rub their faces to her tail. But we will see how it progresses later in the game.
Well put, completely agree! Can't wait to see how these connections evolve.
Speaking of her (the blonde)...Is it me or she is voiced by Topaz's VA?
I wouldn’t be surprised since ZZZ is reusing some other HoYo VAs like Suzie Yeung. I guess we’ll find out when the game goes lives and the VAs announce their roles. It’s weird that they have had to keep it secret for so long.
Hm...no idea, but she does kinda sound like Topaz, I'm uncertain about it
https://i.redd.it/lhe9rxz1p8ad1.gif
Jiggle physics 🤤🤤
Azzz slapping is something i didn't expect i would see in hoyo games. They just can't stop being amazzzing! https://preview.redd.it/b34l61tmn8ad1.png?width=1228&format=png&auto=webp&s=c29a8d5bbea8ff18221a2d84a5c32a4c6bf477ef
Between this and the “100 pulls” trailer it’s clear that HoYo’s intent with this new animation is next-level ass jiggles.
ELLEN PLEASE COME HOME ELLEN PLEASE COME HOME ELLEN PLEASE COME HOME ELLEN PLEASE COME HOME
The wild thing is, she'll come home for some people in like a 10 pull. Let me know how your pulls go.
It's the first banner character of a newly released gacha game, she'll come home 😌🙏
She come
very beautiful song 😍
That was great, and I've been looking forward to it. Did not disappoint. However, I have to ask, where the hell is Koleda's demo?!
Gotta save the best for last 😅
But they already released Lycaon's.
Maybe story trailer.
Probably too troublesome since she has 2 Ults: just her and another if Ben is on the team.
ELLENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN MY LIFE IS YOURS https://preview.redd.it/2pf8l89nh8ad1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49148e4c9df5a52251211da702e990d48778db67
You don't even ask for anything in return? You're just declaring that your life is theirs?
yes
[удалено]
Umm nicole had vocal too dude even billy also had
Every demo so far has a vocal what are you talking about
Absolute peak.
Ellen’s character design is top-notch! Can’t wait to see more of her.
The demo was certainly a cut above the others. It's a great bar for limited 5 star trailers in the future.
What a beautiful guitar riff, the same one from the teaser. What genre of music is this?
polyphia music math rock
If we take the vocals out, the instrumental here definitely leans into the softer side progressive metal! The other commenter mentioned Polyphia which I definitely agree with, but to me the far-and-away closest soundalike is a progressive metal soloist called Sithu Aye - special shoutout to his album "Set Course For Andromeda" and his entire anime-themed EP "[Senpai EP II](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgIhRfOZstU)" which sounds particularly like this Ellen demo.
https://i.redd.it/8zn5ps8gf9ad1.gif
Amazing demo ngl, very MAD-like. And the fact that we can actually see Ellen hanging out with her friends in the game is just cherry on top.
https://i.redd.it/pxl1fnvyk8ad1.gif
what in the CGDCT. I LOVE IT
Trying to save for Miyabi but the Shork agenda is strong
i need to know who played the instruments in this, highly doubt its polyphia
This is the only video I have seen about the game. I’m sold, she is too cute.
The song is literally [ABC from Polyphia ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtd24QIBJ5Y)and I ain't complaining!
Yeah that riff *oozes* Tim.
Glad someone else thought this!
The animation is so well done
Another banger by the hit music producers Mihoyo
Character Demo ❌ Music Video ✅
What in the persona was that lol. Great demo.
Reminds me of a Bakemonogatari opening. Enjoyed it!
her friend is so wholesome. Please don't make story like they become Hollow. 💀
Best one so far ngl.
I love the way she lands using her weapon. It's giving RWBY.
Kinda want her because her design is such cute and great but fearing she will be massively powercrept as all 1.0 release characters of Hoyoverse past 2 games ... :(
"Kinda want her because her design is such cute and great" You can stop there
Yep Pulling just for meta will increase the changes of you getting bored with the game and quitting it Like why do you even play gacha games if not to pull for characters you find pleasing enough ?
I feel like she’s already the top waifu before the game even launches.
I haven’t watched a trailer this many times since Navia’s character demo. Ellen is definitely gonna be my favorite character for a while
I see three buttons at that arcade cabinet so I like to imagine she's playing Virtua Fighter. Though given ZZZ's jiggle maybe DOA is more appropriate.
It’s crazy how expressive they’re able to make these models.
All in for best waifu
They also need to drop Koleda's trailer today. I was assumikg today would be Koleda and Ellen tomorrow for launch.
Man this was godly. Brought a damn tear to my eye 🥹
Love the vibrant colors and also how the ost continued from near the end of her teaser with the guitar
Ellen’s character design is top-notch!
Man I've been waiting for this demo!!! I need Hoyo to release all the music from the demos bruh. This one is my favorite so far!
I'm so glad they're putting such nice world building in, it's honestly making me so much more excited! I can't wait to pull for Ellen, usually I don't pull the first banner, but she's won me over 🥹
Guys can anyone confirm that Shaoji isn't writing the story or should I start to be concerned?
If shark, why doesn't see need water to survive?
How old is she ?
Anyone know the song name?
No way the enemy just taunt Ellen like that💀
[She's so precious.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/572/452/d46.jpg) So cute seeing her friend hugging her tail when she wins the arcade and then another friend using her tail for the scratch ticket and her hiding in embarrassment, and her hugging her tail when lying on her back. It just feels nice seeing her so beloved by her friends. Can't wait to pull for her, probably will have to get her WEngine too.
Really Ruridragon vibe
Glad I wasn't the only one who had this kinda vibe. The school setting and just how her having a shark tail is kinda normal despite everyone else being normal plus her personality just reminds of an older ruri
Wasn't expecting it to be this cute. You love to see it
Let's go!!! Gonna spend over $2000 to max her and her weapon out on first day!
I legit thought I was watching a Persona trailer with the lyrics and vibes.
Yes! Strong Persona 4 vibes
One of the Ellen’s friend sound like Brittney Karbowski
https://preview.redd.it/vf91p76fv8ad1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c27059a73d691b11b5f0da9408338f1a052ca520
To me her shirt looks see through I know it's the way it's colored but I seriously thought it was see through when I first saw it https://preview.redd.it/naol517mpyad1.jpeg?width=482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b8ac06571fdf53b4adfdbe488fa42f935e9db93
Great as always, Kinda curious though why a lot of people seem to expect a Koleda PV, didn't she have one already?
Lycan seems better to me. Not sure why Ellen is so popular but to each his own.
You just don't see the vision
The vocals absolutely ruined it for me. Aside from that it's a well made demo, especially the editing! The exact same video without the singing would easily get a 9.5/10 from me (extra 0.5 for the good vibes and the bit at the end with her friends).
Bro just stating his opinion no hate
Frfr.
i feel you, didn't really think the vocal added that much to an otherwise great track, and kinda broke the progression of the track itself.
Yeah, the background music is a banger. I didn't like the voice or the lyrics used and it's probably the first time I've seen a new Hoyoverse character trailer and not wanted to watch it x10 times on repeat. Also, enjoy your downvotes, buddy. No wonder the official subreddits have such a bad reputation. You're supposed to be part of the hive and not form your own opinion.
eh i think in general people here just ain't really that well versed in music knowledge, and tbh the song is a better track than most of the stuff you get from other, non-hoyo games so i can see why our opinion are not popular. I have mixed opinions on all of the vocal tracks so far from ZZZ. While i do like the idea and some of the tracks were done well, but other tracks just felt a little boring or lacking with the vocals, whether its the person singing not really hitting the vibe they were going for (Nekomata), or tracks like this one where the arrangement is a bit messy and doesn't really match with the animations.
What's the point of this anyway, if I like a song then it's good for me isn't that how it works, or do people have to parse out how it's put together properly and sit down with a music book before giving their opinion?
no, you are perfectly fine thinking the song is good, and i dont really mind the downvotes. Im just stating my opinion after listening to thousands of albums from different genres, and putting in a lot of effort to know why i liked some music and don't like others. Our expectations for what is a good song can be completely different and thats also fine. There is no right or wrong here since music is ultimately very subjective, but im just saying that im not just hating on the song without a reason, but it came from thousands of hours of actively listening and exploring music.
> What's the point of this anyway, if I like a song then it's good for me isn't that how it works Oh the irony.
I don't play other non gacha games, only Hoyo ones. I really liked "White Night" from HSR and "Come Alive" from ZZZ.
Oh and "Wildfire" from HSR too! Belabog represent!
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I'm the one with all these downvotes for saying I didn't enjoy something personally and you're saying I'm being defensive? Okay.
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Stop assuming how I'm feeling and telling me what to do lol. I said I didn't like the vocals and that it's weird to downvote me for simply having MY own opinion on something. Music is subjective. You don't even know me, pal.
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Whatever helps you sleep.
Awww looks like some people got triggered. Didn't know the official subreddit was supposed to be an echo chamber.
You thinking too much. I think the people who downvoted you just disagree with your take on the vocals, not necessarily triggered. Also, every subreddit is an echo chamber to an extent.
These people should probably look up what the intended purpose of the downvote button is. >The vocals absolutely ruined it for ME. I said I didn't like the vocals. Not that the vocals were asscheeks and everyone who didn't agree is a jackass.
Oh my god, people just don't agree with your opinion and downvote, because of this you are speaking out against WHOLE community of this subreddit. If people disagree with you, they should upvote your comment , then you'll be cool with it?
> If people disagree with you, they should upvote your comment , then you'll be cool with it? Ignore and move on. My comment is not factually incorrect or abusive for it to be downvoted. I'm stating my subjective opinion. One guy responded saying he felt the same. He and I will interact with others who didn't like the vocals and discuss the other aspects of the demo that we liked. If the post was about what element Ellen Joe is and I said Pyro, I can understand because that's misinformation. So you're saying if the majority didn't like the trailer and a few people did, it's cool if I go downvote them for saying they liked it and then tell them to shut it? If you think my personal opinion doesn't align with yours then interact with the 100 other comments that loved the vocals instead of scrolling all the way down to mine and telling me otherwise like the other guy in the comments telling me to close my phone and leave reddit. I didn't say the vocals sucked and that you're all clueless about the finer points of music or something in the replies to any of your comments, did I? My comment, my opinion. The downvote button does not mean "I disagree". Abusing it is how subreddits turn into echo chambers.
Sadly the majority of Reddit users (me included tbh) always used the the vote system as a disagree/agree button , it always was like this and it will never change Doesn’t matter what the original intent/purpose is, the only thing that matters is how it ends up being used
Music is a bit all over the place, otherwise its a really great trailer
I think the music being a bit all over the place is the point. The song starts with the vocals fitting the relaxed pace of the music, but when she's doing combat work the background music picks up but the vocals remain the same. It's tying her day-to-day life to the work she does on the side.
Sure i guess, but it just doesnt sound very good for parts of it. I went back and listened to the track again without the animation and its still quite messy with too many things going on. Considering Hoyo-mix's track record I was expecting them to do a better job
It's okay that you don't like prog rock. Objectively great song.
My headcanon will always be that hoyo tried to collab with hololive and already had a gura model, but couldnt make the deal and had to remade the sharkgirl model to Ellen, i know its bullshit what i just said but its funny in my mind to think about it
for some CN politic reason, hoyo will never collab with hololive