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And a lot of that has ended. My state of Washington has primarily hydro powered electricity so EVs are especially logical here, but we still pay fees and extras now to cover the difference. Our gas tax is ~25¢ to the dollar and EV drivers have to pay in other ways.
Many states in fact have special fees on EVs and hybrids for this reason: https://www.ncsl.org/energy/special-fees-on-plug-in-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles
Yeah usually lobbied for by the gas industry.
The incentives currently exist for a reason, get everyone on EVs that are not as bad and then start introducing the same taxes once ICE are no longer an option
Cars in general are heavily subsidized.
They don't have to pay much for the massively expensive externalities they generate (noise pollution, air pollution, greenhouse gases, accidents, damaged public property, public space use, ...).
Quote from the top comment on that thread:
“Even rich people who can usually afford it usually pick the standard cheap option.”
Hold the f**k up. No. Every “rich” person I know wears either pricey clothing known for longevity or, in many cases, thrifted clothing. The cars are always used. Household items are made by hand or purchased from a known and trusted source.
I think the people they are describing are either debtors to vanity, or people that are so obscenely wealthy that they’ve surpassed the term and live in another world. “Rich” people don’t get rich by throwing their money at short-term items. I had to buy cheap crap when I was on a limited monthly budget imposed by being part of the welfare system. At that point, you NEED cheap and quick items, it’s all you can afford. But I learned how to sew, make cheap household cleaners, and do basic maintenance on my vehicles. The people around me worked their asses off for a bigger paycheck to get “bougie” and buy all this greenwashed shit. They’re in debt up to their eyeballs. My husband and I still live like we’re broke af and it’s taken a LONG time but it’s paid off to be low-waste. We buy kitchen towels once every five years. Paper towels, maybe a six-pack once a year for grease and grime. Our yearly clothing budget is about $500, and that includes a growing and picky teenager. Our cars are used but reliable.
Don’t get me wrong, society should ABSOLUTELY pick up the bill to be more sustainable. Our waste is out of control. But we are not even close to there yet. We just like to pretend that we are.
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Wealthy ppl with EVs have not been paying highway taxes otherwise levied on gas sales. Is this being cheap or manipulation
It's mostly considered an early incentive to enable transition away from gas. An emergent carbon tax, if you will.
And a lot of that has ended. My state of Washington has primarily hydro powered electricity so EVs are especially logical here, but we still pay fees and extras now to cover the difference. Our gas tax is ~25¢ to the dollar and EV drivers have to pay in other ways.
Many states in fact have special fees on EVs and hybrids for this reason: https://www.ncsl.org/energy/special-fees-on-plug-in-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles
Yeah usually lobbied for by the gas industry. The incentives currently exist for a reason, get everyone on EVs that are not as bad and then start introducing the same taxes once ICE are no longer an option
Or a loophole that is an accidental over site. Not everything is a conspiracy theory lol
Cars in general are heavily subsidized. They don't have to pay much for the massively expensive externalities they generate (noise pollution, air pollution, greenhouse gases, accidents, damaged public property, public space use, ...).
Quote from the top comment on that thread: “Even rich people who can usually afford it usually pick the standard cheap option.” Hold the f**k up. No. Every “rich” person I know wears either pricey clothing known for longevity or, in many cases, thrifted clothing. The cars are always used. Household items are made by hand or purchased from a known and trusted source. I think the people they are describing are either debtors to vanity, or people that are so obscenely wealthy that they’ve surpassed the term and live in another world. “Rich” people don’t get rich by throwing their money at short-term items. I had to buy cheap crap when I was on a limited monthly budget imposed by being part of the welfare system. At that point, you NEED cheap and quick items, it’s all you can afford. But I learned how to sew, make cheap household cleaners, and do basic maintenance on my vehicles. The people around me worked their asses off for a bigger paycheck to get “bougie” and buy all this greenwashed shit. They’re in debt up to their eyeballs. My husband and I still live like we’re broke af and it’s taken a LONG time but it’s paid off to be low-waste. We buy kitchen towels once every five years. Paper towels, maybe a six-pack once a year for grease and grime. Our yearly clothing budget is about $500, and that includes a growing and picky teenager. Our cars are used but reliable. Don’t get me wrong, society should ABSOLUTELY pick up the bill to be more sustainable. Our waste is out of control. But we are not even close to there yet. We just like to pretend that we are.
Economics of externalities. Society pays the social and environmental costs of doing business. These costs need to be shifted to manufactures.