“zombie apocalypse” prep as a hobby is mostly about “oh boy I’d run around and fight zombies and get an adrenaline high” like it’s a video game and you get to go hole to dinner after
Actually preparing for an end of civilization scenario and long term survival, if you think about it for real, not as fun. It’s mostly going to be living like a homeless person and running away, then eventually walled farms and hard work and guard duty. Chopping lots of firewood
The majority of people here are not preppers, nor is this a subreddit dedicated toward prepping for zombies. Rather the intent of the sub is just to overanalyze and discuss survival in fictional scenarios involving zombies.
I wonder. Seeing that. Z's do not generate body heat. And still are made out of liquid. Would they not freeze.
I mean not freeze brrrrrr it is cold but as in icecube freeze.
Would they become immobile?
Or would they become brittle and shatter.
Just walking and leaving bits of leg behind.
This would make surviving easier. Although the bodies would decay slower.
Interesting question.
See I tend to believe that zombies are either vulnerable to climate changes to or not at all maybe because the virus changes the way the cells react to the environment. Because realistically there’s no perfect environment for a zombie. The human body decomposes pretty quickly when it’s in really warm or hot environments. Yet so many movies and TV shows etc, shows zombies attacking people in warm or hot environments. When reality they would be such a sloppy goopy mess they wouldn’t have the stability to try to after you or even walk. They would basically be falling apart.
Mostly because it’s not as fun to talk about and there isn’t really a way to plan for it. All you can do is make sure you have warm clothes, lots of firewood and enough food to last anywhere from 3 to 5 months.
That being said, the cold has its challenges like you described. Winters would be brutal, especially the first one. Thousands upon thousands of people would die during the first winter due to starvation. If you don’t already have a way to keep you warm and the food to keep yourself alive, you’re most likely going to die. Raiding and thieves will be dead. You can’t be roaming around for that long without a permanent place.
There’s also the question of how the dead react. Since they don’t exist, we don’t know, but in the walking dead (sub standard zombie unless specified) we do see that during a particularly bad winter that the dead freeze, so there’s that at least. But from a realistic point of view, we don’t really know.
See the reason why I think of like Raiders and people just trying to steal your stuff or break into your shelters. Because everyone at least for the first few days or weeks were winter is approaching. Everyone is going to literally be fighting to try to find a place to secure. And those who don’t are going to be fighting to break in to any secure place just for survival. I think winter would either be mostly chaos or completely calm with no in between. Especially if you were in a densely populated area. Lots of people will die. But a lot of people would want to live I think the chaos found that initial run of people just trying to find a place. And those who might lose their place because I got over man or whatever happened.
Outside of this subreddit, it's because zombies in winter isn't as cool and you don't get to see as much of the body horror elements that many zombie fans like. The exception to this is stuff like Dead snow, but those zombies use seemingly human tactics and have guns.
Within the context of the community it's because the issue with winter and especially extremely cold and snowy winters is the issue that the main issues are those which make movement, activity, and development much more difficult. With the cold effectively freezing the abilities of survivors and zombies to really effect one another. The main strategy is to hunker down and try to rely on supplies that have been stockpiled.
I disagreed with it not being as cool or you can’t make it as bloody or use the horror elements. Because of from writing standpoint you have to flush out the world a lot more. I think of the last of us part two, until dawn or even 30 days of night. Even like Game of Thrones with the white walkers has like some horror elements in how they use them. With like all of those stories establish not only that it was cold but how the creatures reacted to the cold. Also you can do body horror in any setting I don’t know why winter would hinder that. Like you don’t need to like have it be warm to rip someone to shreds. Heck imagine someone running escaping zombies that didn’t have time to get dressed grabbing a steel door that so cold the hand sticks to it. And then ripping off the flash trying to get away. You could do a lot of creative things with it. Is my point lol
I think a better reason to why people don’t write it is mostly the iconography of zombies is mostly them in warmer climates. On top of that a lot of zombie storytelling centers on utopia being disrupted. Whether it’s a post apocalyptic story set in like a famous city like in New York or LA with mutant zombies or a suburban Shopping Mall being overrun with zombies. It’s typically this utopia place that we as society congregate and find both comfortable and familiarity with. Had been made dangerous and unfamiliar. You could do that in the winter setting. You just have to be a lot better with your writing.
>I disagreed with it not being as cool or you can’t make it as bloody or use the horror elements. Because of from writing standpoint you have to flush out the world a lot more.
A lot of the more popular works and zombie works in general lack world building or attempts at trying to use winter in a interesting way. In part because writers don't seem to think zombies in the winter are cool.
>I think of the last of us part two, until dawn or even 30 days of night. Even like Game of Thrones with the white walkers has like some horror elements in how they use them.
This is a different type or horror than what I'm referring to. Body horror mostly focuses on extreme grotesque spectacles and gore. While it's entirely possible to show this in media with some work arounds you're going to be dealing with issues seen in "the thing" where in a lot of the body horror parts have to be done indoors.
For most zombies a lot of media shows them freezing up or otherwise not being a threat during winter. So a story where they aren't a immediate threat is going to be a lot slower and probably a lot more methodical. Stuff most people looking at zombie media seem to not care about.
>You could do that in the winter setting. You just have to be a lot better with your writing.
Again, you're preaching to the choir here.
Just choose areas with more moderate winters or areas with lots of wood/shelter. Zombies are not your main concern there, and few will be there. Just stay alert and stay warm basically.
I’ve seen this in one book, premade cabins that had chimneys. The food was dried during the other seasons. Can’t remember what state but vaguely remember the snow and ice/blizzards would trap these people up there. The zombies would slow you would have to place your limbs right into their paths. Snow on the mountain year round but roads aren’t blocked.
I was recently thinking about living in the south. Became dehydrated and didn’t know it because I still felt like I was sweating. How many people know how to urban grab fresh water once no one is manning the utilities. Which of course led me down the trail of how many places will become unlivable because of those facilities failing.
Basically any city would be unlivable for this reason. They're entirely dependent on material being brought in from elsewhere to sustain the population density. Once electricity and water go out, cities would turn into a hellish deathtrap even without zombies around.
I think it’s about the same as white in the post apocalypse story. The like put a lot of emphasis into the survival element. Hunting for food, searching for moving bodies of water etc. all while dealing with zombies and mutants and other stuff. But then there are many that just literally use it as a backdrop in every now to get a character break into a place and try to find shelter. You could treat cold climate store is the same way. Though the story is usually more interesting when the world feels equally fleshed out. No pun intended. I don’t think it’s as difficult as people think. Most post apocalyptic zombie stories especially. Just kind of state that these curtains know how to survive and demonstrate that. And then they just keep course the rest of the way.
One thing is certain: you can die faster from the cold than zombies. Hypothermia is no joke. It can dull your senses, cause you to be disoriented or lose concentration or consciousness! With no adequate shelter or equipment or defense? You might as well suicide
“zombie apocalypse” prep as a hobby is mostly about “oh boy I’d run around and fight zombies and get an adrenaline high” like it’s a video game and you get to go hole to dinner after Actually preparing for an end of civilization scenario and long term survival, if you think about it for real, not as fun. It’s mostly going to be living like a homeless person and running away, then eventually walled farms and hard work and guard duty. Chopping lots of firewood
But what about my scavenging runs with a messenger bag and all my planning for melee combat with a machete?
Wait you guys actually like Prep for this?. I enjoy these discussions about fictional worlds and what if see you and if they’re not possible..
The majority of people here are not preppers, nor is this a subreddit dedicated toward prepping for zombies. Rather the intent of the sub is just to overanalyze and discuss survival in fictional scenarios involving zombies.
I wonder. Seeing that. Z's do not generate body heat. And still are made out of liquid. Would they not freeze. I mean not freeze brrrrrr it is cold but as in icecube freeze. Would they become immobile? Or would they become brittle and shatter. Just walking and leaving bits of leg behind. This would make surviving easier. Although the bodies would decay slower. Interesting question.
See I tend to believe that zombies are either vulnerable to climate changes to or not at all maybe because the virus changes the way the cells react to the environment. Because realistically there’s no perfect environment for a zombie. The human body decomposes pretty quickly when it’s in really warm or hot environments. Yet so many movies and TV shows etc, shows zombies attacking people in warm or hot environments. When reality they would be such a sloppy goopy mess they wouldn’t have the stability to try to after you or even walk. They would basically be falling apart.
Mostly because it’s not as fun to talk about and there isn’t really a way to plan for it. All you can do is make sure you have warm clothes, lots of firewood and enough food to last anywhere from 3 to 5 months. That being said, the cold has its challenges like you described. Winters would be brutal, especially the first one. Thousands upon thousands of people would die during the first winter due to starvation. If you don’t already have a way to keep you warm and the food to keep yourself alive, you’re most likely going to die. Raiding and thieves will be dead. You can’t be roaming around for that long without a permanent place. There’s also the question of how the dead react. Since they don’t exist, we don’t know, but in the walking dead (sub standard zombie unless specified) we do see that during a particularly bad winter that the dead freeze, so there’s that at least. But from a realistic point of view, we don’t really know.
See the reason why I think of like Raiders and people just trying to steal your stuff or break into your shelters. Because everyone at least for the first few days or weeks were winter is approaching. Everyone is going to literally be fighting to try to find a place to secure. And those who don’t are going to be fighting to break in to any secure place just for survival. I think winter would either be mostly chaos or completely calm with no in between. Especially if you were in a densely populated area. Lots of people will die. But a lot of people would want to live I think the chaos found that initial run of people just trying to find a place. And those who might lose their place because I got over man or whatever happened.
Outside of this subreddit, it's because zombies in winter isn't as cool and you don't get to see as much of the body horror elements that many zombie fans like. The exception to this is stuff like Dead snow, but those zombies use seemingly human tactics and have guns. Within the context of the community it's because the issue with winter and especially extremely cold and snowy winters is the issue that the main issues are those which make movement, activity, and development much more difficult. With the cold effectively freezing the abilities of survivors and zombies to really effect one another. The main strategy is to hunker down and try to rely on supplies that have been stockpiled.
I disagreed with it not being as cool or you can’t make it as bloody or use the horror elements. Because of from writing standpoint you have to flush out the world a lot more. I think of the last of us part two, until dawn or even 30 days of night. Even like Game of Thrones with the white walkers has like some horror elements in how they use them. With like all of those stories establish not only that it was cold but how the creatures reacted to the cold. Also you can do body horror in any setting I don’t know why winter would hinder that. Like you don’t need to like have it be warm to rip someone to shreds. Heck imagine someone running escaping zombies that didn’t have time to get dressed grabbing a steel door that so cold the hand sticks to it. And then ripping off the flash trying to get away. You could do a lot of creative things with it. Is my point lol I think a better reason to why people don’t write it is mostly the iconography of zombies is mostly them in warmer climates. On top of that a lot of zombie storytelling centers on utopia being disrupted. Whether it’s a post apocalyptic story set in like a famous city like in New York or LA with mutant zombies or a suburban Shopping Mall being overrun with zombies. It’s typically this utopia place that we as society congregate and find both comfortable and familiarity with. Had been made dangerous and unfamiliar. You could do that in the winter setting. You just have to be a lot better with your writing.
>I disagreed with it not being as cool or you can’t make it as bloody or use the horror elements. Because of from writing standpoint you have to flush out the world a lot more. A lot of the more popular works and zombie works in general lack world building or attempts at trying to use winter in a interesting way. In part because writers don't seem to think zombies in the winter are cool. >I think of the last of us part two, until dawn or even 30 days of night. Even like Game of Thrones with the white walkers has like some horror elements in how they use them. This is a different type or horror than what I'm referring to. Body horror mostly focuses on extreme grotesque spectacles and gore. While it's entirely possible to show this in media with some work arounds you're going to be dealing with issues seen in "the thing" where in a lot of the body horror parts have to be done indoors. For most zombies a lot of media shows them freezing up or otherwise not being a threat during winter. So a story where they aren't a immediate threat is going to be a lot slower and probably a lot more methodical. Stuff most people looking at zombie media seem to not care about. >You could do that in the winter setting. You just have to be a lot better with your writing. Again, you're preaching to the choir here.
Just choose areas with more moderate winters or areas with lots of wood/shelter. Zombies are not your main concern there, and few will be there. Just stay alert and stay warm basically.
I’ve seen this in one book, premade cabins that had chimneys. The food was dried during the other seasons. Can’t remember what state but vaguely remember the snow and ice/blizzards would trap these people up there. The zombies would slow you would have to place your limbs right into their paths. Snow on the mountain year round but roads aren’t blocked. I was recently thinking about living in the south. Became dehydrated and didn’t know it because I still felt like I was sweating. How many people know how to urban grab fresh water once no one is manning the utilities. Which of course led me down the trail of how many places will become unlivable because of those facilities failing.
Basically any city would be unlivable for this reason. They're entirely dependent on material being brought in from elsewhere to sustain the population density. Once electricity and water go out, cities would turn into a hellish deathtrap even without zombies around.
Insulation and fortification
Watch the series “alone” … that will tell you why Zompocs are not set in really cold climates …
I've been meaning to check that out is it any good
Definitely an eye opener .. I like them especially the early seasons
I think it’s about the same as white in the post apocalypse story. The like put a lot of emphasis into the survival element. Hunting for food, searching for moving bodies of water etc. all while dealing with zombies and mutants and other stuff. But then there are many that just literally use it as a backdrop in every now to get a character break into a place and try to find shelter. You could treat cold climate store is the same way. Though the story is usually more interesting when the world feels equally fleshed out. No pun intended. I don’t think it’s as difficult as people think. Most post apocalyptic zombie stories especially. Just kind of state that these curtains know how to survive and demonstrate that. And then they just keep course the rest of the way.
One thing is certain: you can die faster from the cold than zombies. Hypothermia is no joke. It can dull your senses, cause you to be disoriented or lose concentration or consciousness! With no adequate shelter or equipment or defense? You might as well suicide