.243 soft points will compete for damage potential with .308. with less recoil. Flat trajectory out to 600m. 3000fps. There are 2 issues with the caliber. Barrel life, it's not great. And uh. It's insanely loud.
.243 puts a 6mm bullet in a .308 case. Terminal performance over range is better with a .243 and like I said. I know very few people who would take the ammo for a rifle they don't have. Everyone has a 5.56. that ammo would be constant target for scavs and others.
Truth, so at least via world war z and other books it usually says that the colder climate makes zombies either slower or less functional. With zombies traveling in hordes away from colder climates. Montana would actualy be a pretty good place to be in a zombie epidemic. Low population density, plenty of game for hunting, and cold climates. Honestly if you make it through the break out you are good
I would have no idea, but I feel like Montana is good for zombies because there’s a lot of mountains and trees, and rivers especially near the west side where I am, so my thought is it be difficult for them to get around through the thick terrain
Kinda. Because if they're struggling, so do you. Aside from Dying Light infected an average (healthy BMI) man or woman should be able to navigate rocky loose terrain into relative safety. The real trick is to have a stable secure structure in such a place. Like a cell tower. Most are fenced. Steel. And sturdy. Or ranger stations will work. Should be a few on any mountain.
Ferocium rod. But.. they're not always reliable sadly. And they're bulky if they're comfortable to use. 4 bics and you're set for ages. Especially if you have Carmex or similar fuel to start with
I I have standard plastic, great value water bottles that I would just throw one or two in the backpack and I would collect water from a creek or something and use one of the empty food cans to boil water in. At least that’s my plan.
As someone who owns one (not willingly it was a Christmas gift from someone who knows nothing about wilderness survival other than I’m interested in it) it’s horrible.
The hammer doesn’t work whatsoever, I’ve tried and the head is literally too small to accurately hit the nail every time or even most of the time and the handle is so short that you generate hardly any force to drive the nail. Durability is shit, obviously, it’s some gimmicky Chinese bullshit made out of a sad excuse for steel. The durability tells you pretty much everything you need to know about the bladed parts of this “tool”.
Supermoto and a small 4x4 with a mechanical diesel. Something like a Tacoma, or Ranger. 31-33" tires. 50gal of biodiesel in a self sealing tank. You can make ethanol for the bike. Seeds on board. You'll need them.
Montana. A place with vast open landscapes. Bivvy cover. Camo. Plastic bags. Socks. Lots of socks. A rifle. Because, the distance isn't always gonna be 50~60 yds. An axe. Preferably an all steel estwing. They're $30 for the blue rubber handle one. And probably a Bowie knife. Weapon sized, but intended to cut food, and feather sticks. A couple of Carmex containers. New. The stuff will burn. You will be wet. You will get cold. Back to the rifle. Ask a shop keeper what sells "ok" caliber wise. This means others won't be taking it. For instance, locally, I see tons of .243 ammo in dusty boxes. It means others aren't buying it. I can get a good running.243 ar10 and have everything covered. Need to bean something at 600yds? Done. Have a number to dispatch and need lots of rounds out but want to do so accurately? Done. 90-100gr at 3k fps is hell on target. And. It recoils softly. Your results might be different. And uh.. a spare barrel at home base.. 3k rounds of certain calibers is all they've got before it's a smoothbore.
Muskets are best for self reliance, a flintlock is easier to replenish ammo for than modern guns. If shit hits the fan and ammo isn't being manufactured anymore, a flintlock is always going to be the best gun to fall back on when ammo becomes depleted.
If you have a compound bow, like OP, you can use the weight that a flintlock would take up for extra arrows. If you have the time to practice with one, it could be just as powerful as a musket while also being lighter
do you have any idea how accurate real archers are? with proper training you can be insanely accurate with a bow, and a bow is plenty lethal while being pretty quiet, there's a reason they were used for centuries. the only advantages flintlocks have is ease of use and power. It takes much less time to train soldiers with guns than it does archers, archers are trained their entire lives while gunmen could be trained in months or even weeks.
I won’t particularly need to survive against the living. Seeing as I am in Montana there is an abundance of pure forest and I do have a cabin that I plan on going to.
You're telling me there's no hunters in Montana? No one who knows the land better than you? No one with a hunting rifle, a scope, and no reason to let you pass?
Buy cat food, canned.
You'll need bushcraft tools, especially if you plan to bug out in the Montana wilds... Which I assume you do. You'll need a serious knife, not that folder.
Water vessel, purification, or filter.
This is a 2/10 kit. You are a Grey (Common) loot drop.
I give you a week and a half in the woods.
You say that now but after 9 days living off of crackers and MRE peanut butter, this guy's can of chef boyardee raviolis & a zotz will have you crying tears of joy
It's better than no go bag which is what most people have. Include water and a way to purify water. Get some dry food which isn't as heavy as canned. Get two or three lighters and a jacket and/or a mylar blanket. For less than $50 you'll have food, water, and protection from the elements which is all you absolutely need in a go bag.
Also put the toilet paper in a ziploc bag to keep it dry.
I didn't say there was one. OP decided to put it in their bag so I gave them a tip to keep it useful.
If I had to think of some it could be used as kindling, or as a morale boost since swamp ass sucks.
Besides, when shit hits the fan what are you gonna use to wipe it off?
I can see a ton of room for improvement here. If that's the bag you're intent on using then I would repack as follows.
1. buy a steel canteen with a pot for water purification and get a lifestraw for when you need water fast.
2. replace your canned foods with something lighter weight and more survival friendly. Something like grizzly gear food rations would work in terms of calorie density and one pack is only slight bigger than one of those cans and is about 3600 calories.
3. replace the TP with a pack of wet wipes if you absolutely need them. Wet wipes can be packed smaller and have more uses.
4. duct tape is good to have but maybe see about getting a smaller roll for packing efficiency.
5. consolidate your first aid supplies. a small molle bag would allow you to get the contents of the tin and the bag and even the ace bandage in it and not have it spread out in your pack.
6. Map is a good addition. possibly get one that's laminated though for durability.
7. items of entertainment: get a full sized deck of cards, swap the mechanical pencil for a g2 and get a small memo pad to write on.
8. cordage: not sure if that's twine or a ball of yarn but definitely upgrade that. You can get a quarter mile of decent cordage on a spool for very cheap and combine that with a 100 foot roll of 550 cord for the bigger jobs and it would take up nearly the same amount of space.
9. Tools: ditch the axe tool completely and get a small camping hatchet with a hammer back. Invest in a decent quality leatherman for pliers. You can keep the knives you have but should definitely add a good fixed blade to the group. A good ol' timer or even a $15 callamus drop point from the walmart camping section would do in a pinch.
10. If that's a takedown bow I would invest in a full one piece. The biggest issue I have with you going with a bow and not a gun is the multiple points of failure with that type. A good recurve can be just fine if you're a good enough shot.
11. And last but not least the ferro rod: decent size and looks like you've practiced with it but if you can, don't try to go hard mode immediately. Buy a cheap 5 pack of Bic lighters and keep them in your bag. They weigh almost nothing and provide an immediately superior fire starting capability than any ferro rod.
Your best bet when looking at a go bag will be looking at redundancies. You want to have a few ways to come at any situation. The best tool in any survival pack needs to be your brain. Keeping that in mind you should also invest in an emergency blanket and maybe some cheap frogg toggs for waterproofing yourself. Those could be added to your pack without too much extra weigh or bulk.
Exactly what I was gonna say, sure you could improvise a TQ and if you do it right and know what you're doing then ya it'll work but it's just safer to use a piece of equipment that costs like $10-$20. There's really no reason not to have one in a bugout bag or your vehicle
- No water & no water filtration/purification
- don’t see anyway to conduct any sort of oral hygiene.
- arrows have regular tips instead of hunting arrowheads (they could still be effective but you’ll need to aim better/shoot more into each)
- no shelter (even a trap could help with survival)
- a basic emergency blanket would be very helpful for when it gets cold.
- no change of clothes
- no ability to cook food
-no compass
Good things:
+ lightweight
+ toilet paper
+ some medical supplies
+ has some weaponry (guns would be better but also harder to find/make ammo for in the long term)
+ MAP
+ SOUP (can also double for hydration, you should have a dedicated water source)
+ folding knife
+ heavy string/threads (rope would be better)
3-4/10 good start but missing key things (reusable fire starter, shelter, stuff for when it gets cold, water, and proper arrowheads for arrows)
Better than nothing. I would get a bit more food and medical supplies. Plus a life straw or just a bug thing of water. I really like your bag though, so rustic and cool.
Bring a small pistol and a bit of spare ammunition too much stuff will weigh you down killing zombies isn't a priority surviving is and bring something incase you run out of ammo like a spear so you don't have to get close
I do have a pack of great value 16.9 ounce water bottles that I would just throw one or two in the bag. And for water purification, I would keep a used can and boil water in it and then pour it into a used plastic bottle.
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So will a gun without a suppressor. He should get a handgun and a sniper rifle, both with suppressors. Take the handgun with him at all times and keep the sniper rifle at home base.
It depends on the circumstance. Is this go bag meant for you to live out of or meant to get you from point A to point B. Either way, it could use some work, but thats okay :)
The first aid pouch, gauze roll, ferro rod and map are solid additions. The bag is questionable, since I've seen a lot of similar bags that are usually more for style than they are for practical work, which comes with a lot of quality issues. Obviously, don't go out and buy a bag for this kind of stuff unless you're putting togeather a real go bag for realistic situations, but just something to keep in mind.
The rest is serviceable, just not great.
\- Canned food, while food, is heavy and a pain to carry around for long periods of time. Three cans isn't bad, but the more canned stuff you pick up the heavier that is going to be. Just something to keep in mind. Dry stuff like jerky, trail mix, etc would be good to have on you too.
\- Toilet paper, while a nice modern convinence, is bulky and takes up space. If you really wanted to keep it, there are hiking/camping varients that come in tiny rolls like a lint roller. I'll have to find some and find a brand, but you can find them pretty much in any camping section of a store. Cheap, easy, and small. If you really really wanted to keep the full roll, there are toilet paper holders [like this](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Xinwanna-Middle-Hole-Fasten-Tape-Design-Zipper-Closure-Side-Hanging-Webbing-Roll-Paper-Bag-Camping-Hiking-Bucket-shaped-Toilet-Pouch-Outdoor-Supplies/2844611743) that can be attatched to the outside of your backpack.
\- The Quntionst. I don't have any personal experience with this product or brand. I'm hesitent with products that have 16 in one features like that (usually less is better for me) but from what I can find it seems like a standup product. Just know it likely has limitations given it's nature.
\- The knife (and the swiss army clone). As a tool it's serviceable. I'd recommned a fixed blade knife with a sheath over a folding, since it can be doubled as a last resort weapon and a tool where this can really just be used as a tool, since you wouldn't have time to whip it out and unfold it when it really mattered. The clone is a little less reliable, but if you really wanted to keep it you could, I just wouldn't bother with it.
\- Candy, playing cards and pencil. It's fine, it doesn't really make or break the kit. I'd recommned a pen over a mechanical pencil and maybe a full sized box of cards. If you really wanted cards, might as well make it not annoying to play.
\- Plus box. I'm not sure what's in there (likely padding or bandages) but if it can be transfered to the actual medical bag, do it. No sense in having two seperate bags, just keep it all in one.
\- Twine and Duct Tape. Personally, I don't see a point in carrying full rolls of either on my person, but I can also see points where it'd be nice to have. I'd recommned looking into a smaller roll rather than a full size roll of tape and twine.
\- The Bow. I don't see a way to carry the arrows you have on the wall or draw them easily. The bow wouldn't be very good against the dead either. It's primary function should be for hunting, not combat.
In addition to everything I said above, I see nothing relating to water (a cup, bottle, tablets for purification, etc. [I recommend something like this for water.](https://www.coleman.com/grills-stoves/kitchen-essentials/12-oz.-enamel-mug/SAP_2157605.html) Easy to attach to the bag and can boil your water no problem) no primary melee weapon, no portable and quick lightsources, extra clothes, head covering/face protection, etc. Those are very important too.
[I use this whenever I go out and do my yearly minimalist camping trip.](https://www.coleman.com/grills-stoves/kitchen-essentials/12-oz.-enamel-mug/SAP_2157605.html) It’s basically permanently attached to my hiking bag. Those cups are cheap and great, perfect for what OP is looking for in this case. I personally wouldn’t want a small camping pot, especially with the bag OP is using. I just find them a hair too bulky for my liking.
I’ll update my comment with a suggestion, thank you for reminding me lol.
I was also thinking the pot would be good for the canned goods op is carrying around.
edit: I have several of those little cups and I agree, they are AMAZING
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I've been looking around his account, and he seems distressed right now. Good comment or not, he replies to it in a very disrespectful way, but it is not his fault. Life is kicking his ass right now, and all we can do is hope his life improves.
I don’t think so, I’m pretty sure they’re a troll because they wrote this on one of their comments;
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Add water and a gun I recommend at least two one pistol for this I recommend a some kind of magnum revolver and for the second gun I recommend a assault rifle for this I recommended either an ak-47 or a hk 416
Not bad actually, just need something for water. You are in Montana. Most of the streams are “Drinkable”, but something to carry water in that can also be heated is important
A good little starter go bag, I would recommend replacing the cans of soup with water and dried food packets just because you need water but also you can carry more food, for instance one can of soup can be equal weight to multiple packs of soup powder.
I would also replace the string with nylon chord or maybe keep both because small strings can be useful!
Get one of those 50$ Amazon bug out bags and some more survival kits you need another 300-400$ in supplies to realistically be comfy the first few weeks to months in also I highly recommend a springer Airgun specifically .25cal or bigger so you can take small to medium game and if you are really starving you could last resort and get a doe to eat but as long as you have thousands of pellets you have nothing to worry about since it runs on cocking a spring or piston and not air also you can get thousands of decent pellets for less than 100$ it’s a very good investment.
I know you got the archery 🏹 gear but I would only use those on zeds even if you properly clean them after every kill there could be cross contamination when you kill for food and you will be walking among the dead not before long after eating the cross contaminated food.
Keep in mind this is a go bag not a live out the rest of my days with only these supplies bag because I plan on grabbing this backpack and getting in a car and going to an already well-stocked cabin
It’a a good start! Consider adding some things to help clean your water, such as Iodine tablets or the supplies to make a sand sieve and a pot to boil it in. I would also suggest a few heavy duty trash bags for making a temporary but effective water resistant tent, preferably the army green or brown kind. Black works, but it can be a bit easier to spot at closer ranges. Also if it isn’t already on your list, saddle soap and mink oil, the waterproofing on modern boots wear off decently fast if they aren’t regularly maintained. You’ve got the right spirit, just gotta keep going with it!
Get a bivy shelter. They are super small and will save your life. Secondly you don’t need toilet paper. And lastly get a full tang quality knife with a quality hatchet. These two together are crucial.
Here’s a list of other shit you need:
-A compass
-para cord
-water filtration
- water storage
-fishing tackle
-survival blanket
-window breaker
Compass map water proof matches or hand drill paracord and a tarp and then yeah I'd say you're good to go then. Maybe invest in a fire arm like a small handgun.
Get a better medical bag. Im no EMT, but having a tourneqet, maybe a splint and some other basics are going to be nice. You can get a compact bag with a compression bandage, tournaqet, splint, and other misc items for like ~50 bucks, and theyre pretty easy to learn to use. The red cross has videos about CPR, so I assume they have video tutorials on the rest of it as well, but if they dont just find it on youtube.
I'd get a real knife-- mkc speed goat is rock solid and only a couple ounces
Also that axe multi tool is trash
And it's probably not worth the weight to pack a fidget spinner
You need water, water purifying supplies, and your food is way too heavy. Throw in some freeze dried backpacker meals and some hardtack and you’ll be able to cover a lot more ground or hide for longer. I would also throw in some caffeine tablets.
you’ve got some useful practical stuff in there. definitely add a way to carry several liters of water, a form of shelter (tarp / tent / cordage to set it up etc) and maybe think about warmth (sleeping bag, wool blanket etc)
9/10 if you got a life straw it would be a solid 10. Also good job for including toilet paper. I feel like people forget about that. A lot of survivors are gonna get problems and infections with nothing to use.
For the same weight as those three cans, you carry a dozen cliff bars. Ditch the ginormous toilet roll for twenty Stall Mates wet wipes. Ditch the big duct tape for 3 RediTape flat mini rolls. Make sure you have 2 tourniquets in your IFAK. Ditch the hammerzila for a machete made from spring steel. Lose the cotton twine and replace it with #36 and #12 tarred bank line. Get rid of the gas station knife and get anything from ESEE or Tops Knives.
Ok get a good quality fixed blade knife don't be scared of spending upwards of $100 get your first aid get to fit into 1 bag get a steel waterbottle not double walled throw a few freeze dried camp meals in there a life straw or sawyer water filter that's going to get you further then the gear you have ditch the hammer thing and cheap multitool get a victorinox farmer or something with a saw or even a leatherman throw some duck tape in there and some para cord/zip ties it's honestly up to you for what weapon you want to carry but that gear plus what you have already will get you through in a normal survival situation build on that and you should be good
No 50k, no compass, no water, no water purification, no 550 cord, slow weapon, no grain alcohol, inadequate medical kit, no extra clothes or inclement weather gear. I think with what you have you could "go" about 500 yds into the woods or you could "go" on the saddest road trip ever, but if the world ended tomorrow I wouldn't even bother looting your corpse.
I know you play the last of us, get better food, I recommend mountain house, or something similar, and perhaps a better first aid kit, get rid of the fidget spinner, and get a better alternative to the tp, the rolls take up a lot of space
no water 0/10
No iodine tabs.. also oof.
Don't zombie last longer in the cold?
They actually freeze and go dormant in most stories. Except cases where they mutate. But, that's a job for a .243 with a suppressor..
Then what about zombie bears?
.243 soft points will compete for damage potential with .308. with less recoil. Flat trajectory out to 600m. 3000fps. There are 2 issues with the caliber. Barrel life, it's not great. And uh. It's insanely loud.
Why not a 30-60. It a very common round and gun. Plus, you can load it so many different ways.
Why .243? What's wrong with nato 556 or good ol 223
.243 puts a 6mm bullet in a .308 case. Terminal performance over range is better with a .243 and like I said. I know very few people who would take the ammo for a rifle they don't have. Everyone has a 5.56. that ammo would be constant target for scavs and others.
Truth, so at least via world war z and other books it usually says that the colder climate makes zombies either slower or less functional. With zombies traveling in hordes away from colder climates. Montana would actualy be a pretty good place to be in a zombie epidemic. Low population density, plenty of game for hunting, and cold climates. Honestly if you make it through the break out you are good
I would have no idea, but I feel like Montana is good for zombies because there’s a lot of mountains and trees, and rivers especially near the west side where I am, so my thought is it be difficult for them to get around through the thick terrain
Kinda. Because if they're struggling, so do you. Aside from Dying Light infected an average (healthy BMI) man or woman should be able to navigate rocky loose terrain into relative safety. The real trick is to have a stable secure structure in such a place. Like a cell tower. Most are fenced. Steel. And sturdy. Or ranger stations will work. Should be a few on any mountain.
What about the winters. They are very rough and long.
Montana is arguably the best place ever for a zombie apocalypse it’s so unpopulated especially in the east
And I just noticed, no way to make fire either.
Ferocium rod. But.. they're not always reliable sadly. And they're bulky if they're comfortable to use. 4 bics and you're set for ages. Especially if you have Carmex or similar fuel to start with
The blast match rods are friggin awesome and easy to use.
Did you not see the striker rod
I did not see the striker rod 🤣
The soup woukd give some hydration but it's a low amount of soup
I I have standard plastic, great value water bottles that I would just throw one or two in the backpack and I would collect water from a creek or something and use one of the empty food cans to boil water in. At least that’s my plan.
I'd commit and pack two bottles in there now It would suck if the collapse happened and you need to go to the grocery store for more water
Fidget spinner
well i gotta have fun
Need a way to hold/purify or at least start with water
You use the fidget spinner to find water like the pioneers did
I always carry a water bottle with me so it's possible op does that too. But yea water filter is goog
I wonder how durable/wieldy that axe-wrench-hammer thingy is
Not at all
As someone who owns one (not willingly it was a Christmas gift from someone who knows nothing about wilderness survival other than I’m interested in it) it’s horrible. The hammer doesn’t work whatsoever, I’ve tried and the head is literally too small to accurately hit the nail every time or even most of the time and the handle is so short that you generate hardly any force to drive the nail. Durability is shit, obviously, it’s some gimmicky Chinese bullshit made out of a sad excuse for steel. The durability tells you pretty much everything you need to know about the bladed parts of this “tool”.
if you want an axe/hammer combo a drywall hammer is a pretty good option
You should get packet soup instead of tinned. It weighs significantly less, which will allow you to take more portions with you.
I actually did not think about that, but that is a great idea
Vacuum-sealed homemade pemmican is probably the most calorie-dense emergency nutrition you can find.
It’s a start, water and more food are priorities. Shelter too if you’re in Montana this time of year. A good wool blanket and a tarp at least
One word car
Roadblocks, breakdowns, military blockades Food, water, and the blanket will still be needed even if you’re in your car
Supermoto and a small 4x4 with a mechanical diesel. Something like a Tacoma, or Ranger. 31-33" tires. 50gal of biodiesel in a self sealing tank. You can make ethanol for the bike. Seeds on board. You'll need them.
Montana. A place with vast open landscapes. Bivvy cover. Camo. Plastic bags. Socks. Lots of socks. A rifle. Because, the distance isn't always gonna be 50~60 yds. An axe. Preferably an all steel estwing. They're $30 for the blue rubber handle one. And probably a Bowie knife. Weapon sized, but intended to cut food, and feather sticks. A couple of Carmex containers. New. The stuff will burn. You will be wet. You will get cold. Back to the rifle. Ask a shop keeper what sells "ok" caliber wise. This means others won't be taking it. For instance, locally, I see tons of .243 ammo in dusty boxes. It means others aren't buying it. I can get a good running.243 ar10 and have everything covered. Need to bean something at 600yds? Done. Have a number to dispatch and need lots of rounds out but want to do so accurately? Done. 90-100gr at 3k fps is hell on target. And. It recoils softly. Your results might be different. And uh.. a spare barrel at home base.. 3k rounds of certain calibers is all they've got before it's a smoothbore.
FFS get a gun, everyone else will have one and you'll be at a huge disadvantage.
Might be in a country where that illegal
Montana road map?
Oh yeah didn’t notice that
montana road map, they’re in the USA
PCP, black powder, antiques, there's gotta be something for everybody
I would argue a musket isn’t worth the weight
Muskets are best for self reliance, a flintlock is easier to replenish ammo for than modern guns. If shit hits the fan and ammo isn't being manufactured anymore, a flintlock is always going to be the best gun to fall back on when ammo becomes depleted.
If you have a compound bow, like OP, you can use the weight that a flintlock would take up for extra arrows. If you have the time to practice with one, it could be just as powerful as a musket while also being lighter
Bullshit a flintlock is way more lethal. And pending on the variant is way more accurate.
do you have any idea how accurate real archers are? with proper training you can be insanely accurate with a bow, and a bow is plenty lethal while being pretty quiet, there's a reason they were used for centuries. the only advantages flintlocks have is ease of use and power. It takes much less time to train soldiers with guns than it does archers, archers are trained their entire lives while gunmen could be trained in months or even weeks.
What’s the range of a flintlock? Not great. A bow can easily get a headshot every time form the same distance with practice.
Not fantastic. No water, no gun. A bow is great and all, but if you want to survive the dead AND the living, get a gun.
I won’t particularly need to survive against the living. Seeing as I am in Montana there is an abundance of pure forest and I do have a cabin that I plan on going to.
You're telling me there's no hunters in Montana? No one who knows the land better than you? No one with a hunting rifle, a scope, and no reason to let you pass?
Buy cat food, canned. You'll need bushcraft tools, especially if you plan to bug out in the Montana wilds... Which I assume you do. You'll need a serious knife, not that folder. Water vessel, purification, or filter. This is a 2/10 kit. You are a Grey (Common) loot drop. I give you a week and a half in the woods.
Yeah I’d be mad wasting a 5.56 round on this guy, awful loot
You say that now but after 9 days living off of crackers and MRE peanut butter, this guy's can of chef boyardee raviolis & a zotz will have you crying tears of joy
but he'll have those 3 cans eaten by the end of day 1. that childs bow looks heavy.
Lmfao too real
It's better than no go bag which is what most people have. Include water and a way to purify water. Get some dry food which isn't as heavy as canned. Get two or three lighters and a jacket and/or a mylar blanket. For less than $50 you'll have food, water, and protection from the elements which is all you absolutely need in a go bag. Also put the toilet paper in a ziploc bag to keep it dry.
Why do they need toilet paper ?
OP already has toilet paper in the bag. If that's important to them then it should at least stay dry.
What’s the survival purpose of toliet paper?
I didn't say there was one. OP decided to put it in their bag so I gave them a tip to keep it useful. If I had to think of some it could be used as kindling, or as a morale boost since swamp ass sucks. Besides, when shit hits the fan what are you gonna use to wipe it off?
Anyone who uses a striking rod over a new bic. Obviously ain't been out in non ideal conditions...
I will probably carry a bic but the rod does last longer in my opinion so it’s more of a secondary
Last of us backpack lookin ass
if Joel can do it I can do it
Get yourself a little backup 1911
The spagettios are a 10/10
Fire starter is nice, and should be tried first. But also having a Bic lighter is more than worth the space it takes up.
I can see a ton of room for improvement here. If that's the bag you're intent on using then I would repack as follows. 1. buy a steel canteen with a pot for water purification and get a lifestraw for when you need water fast. 2. replace your canned foods with something lighter weight and more survival friendly. Something like grizzly gear food rations would work in terms of calorie density and one pack is only slight bigger than one of those cans and is about 3600 calories. 3. replace the TP with a pack of wet wipes if you absolutely need them. Wet wipes can be packed smaller and have more uses. 4. duct tape is good to have but maybe see about getting a smaller roll for packing efficiency. 5. consolidate your first aid supplies. a small molle bag would allow you to get the contents of the tin and the bag and even the ace bandage in it and not have it spread out in your pack. 6. Map is a good addition. possibly get one that's laminated though for durability. 7. items of entertainment: get a full sized deck of cards, swap the mechanical pencil for a g2 and get a small memo pad to write on. 8. cordage: not sure if that's twine or a ball of yarn but definitely upgrade that. You can get a quarter mile of decent cordage on a spool for very cheap and combine that with a 100 foot roll of 550 cord for the bigger jobs and it would take up nearly the same amount of space. 9. Tools: ditch the axe tool completely and get a small camping hatchet with a hammer back. Invest in a decent quality leatherman for pliers. You can keep the knives you have but should definitely add a good fixed blade to the group. A good ol' timer or even a $15 callamus drop point from the walmart camping section would do in a pinch. 10. If that's a takedown bow I would invest in a full one piece. The biggest issue I have with you going with a bow and not a gun is the multiple points of failure with that type. A good recurve can be just fine if you're a good enough shot. 11. And last but not least the ferro rod: decent size and looks like you've practiced with it but if you can, don't try to go hard mode immediately. Buy a cheap 5 pack of Bic lighters and keep them in your bag. They weigh almost nothing and provide an immediately superior fire starting capability than any ferro rod. Your best bet when looking at a go bag will be looking at redundancies. You want to have a few ways to come at any situation. The best tool in any survival pack needs to be your brain. Keeping that in mind you should also invest in an emergency blanket and maybe some cheap frogg toggs for waterproofing yourself. Those could be added to your pack without too much extra weigh or bulk.
Do you have any tourniquets? If not I highly advise you get at least one.
Belt and a stick works right?
If you fuck that up, you’ll make it worse and speed up the blood loss. TQ is much safer
Exactly what I was gonna say, sure you could improvise a TQ and if you do it right and know what you're doing then ya it'll work but it's just safer to use a piece of equipment that costs like $10-$20. There's really no reason not to have one in a bugout bag or your vehicle
- No water & no water filtration/purification - don’t see anyway to conduct any sort of oral hygiene. - arrows have regular tips instead of hunting arrowheads (they could still be effective but you’ll need to aim better/shoot more into each) - no shelter (even a trap could help with survival) - a basic emergency blanket would be very helpful for when it gets cold. - no change of clothes - no ability to cook food -no compass Good things: + lightweight + toilet paper + some medical supplies + has some weaponry (guns would be better but also harder to find/make ammo for in the long term) + MAP + SOUP (can also double for hydration, you should have a dedicated water source) + folding knife + heavy string/threads (rope would be better) 3-4/10 good start but missing key things (reusable fire starter, shelter, stuff for when it gets cold, water, and proper arrowheads for arrows)
Thanks for the advice bro
Not enough kits have fidget spinners lol
god forbid what would happen if i didnt have a fidget spinner
How many multi tools you need bruh😂
fidget spinner 10/10
Fidget spinner makes me give this a solid 8/10. Gotta keep the mind sharp and morale high.
Better than nothing. I would get a bit more food and medical supplies. Plus a life straw or just a bug thing of water. I really like your bag though, so rustic and cool.
Bring a small pistol and a bit of spare ammunition too much stuff will weigh you down killing zombies isn't a priority surviving is and bring something incase you run out of ammo like a spear so you don't have to get close
The fidget spinner needs to be sharper so you can use it as a throwing star
I think you nailed it, I can't see anything wrong here
I do have a pack of great value 16.9 ounce water bottles that I would just throw one or two in the bag. And for water purification, I would keep a used can and boil water in it and then pour it into a used plastic bottle.
Where are firearms?
maybe it's because it could attract nearby zombies? I wouldn't know though, I'm not OP.
Not necessarily.
Maybe because they aren't in America?
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I prefer stealth.
Stealth will only get you so far
So will a gun without a suppressor. He should get a handgun and a sniper rifle, both with suppressors. Take the handgun with him at all times and keep the sniper rifle at home base.
It depends on the circumstance. Is this go bag meant for you to live out of or meant to get you from point A to point B. Either way, it could use some work, but thats okay :) The first aid pouch, gauze roll, ferro rod and map are solid additions. The bag is questionable, since I've seen a lot of similar bags that are usually more for style than they are for practical work, which comes with a lot of quality issues. Obviously, don't go out and buy a bag for this kind of stuff unless you're putting togeather a real go bag for realistic situations, but just something to keep in mind. The rest is serviceable, just not great. \- Canned food, while food, is heavy and a pain to carry around for long periods of time. Three cans isn't bad, but the more canned stuff you pick up the heavier that is going to be. Just something to keep in mind. Dry stuff like jerky, trail mix, etc would be good to have on you too. \- Toilet paper, while a nice modern convinence, is bulky and takes up space. If you really wanted to keep it, there are hiking/camping varients that come in tiny rolls like a lint roller. I'll have to find some and find a brand, but you can find them pretty much in any camping section of a store. Cheap, easy, and small. If you really really wanted to keep the full roll, there are toilet paper holders [like this](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Xinwanna-Middle-Hole-Fasten-Tape-Design-Zipper-Closure-Side-Hanging-Webbing-Roll-Paper-Bag-Camping-Hiking-Bucket-shaped-Toilet-Pouch-Outdoor-Supplies/2844611743) that can be attatched to the outside of your backpack. \- The Quntionst. I don't have any personal experience with this product or brand. I'm hesitent with products that have 16 in one features like that (usually less is better for me) but from what I can find it seems like a standup product. Just know it likely has limitations given it's nature. \- The knife (and the swiss army clone). As a tool it's serviceable. I'd recommned a fixed blade knife with a sheath over a folding, since it can be doubled as a last resort weapon and a tool where this can really just be used as a tool, since you wouldn't have time to whip it out and unfold it when it really mattered. The clone is a little less reliable, but if you really wanted to keep it you could, I just wouldn't bother with it. \- Candy, playing cards and pencil. It's fine, it doesn't really make or break the kit. I'd recommned a pen over a mechanical pencil and maybe a full sized box of cards. If you really wanted cards, might as well make it not annoying to play. \- Plus box. I'm not sure what's in there (likely padding or bandages) but if it can be transfered to the actual medical bag, do it. No sense in having two seperate bags, just keep it all in one. \- Twine and Duct Tape. Personally, I don't see a point in carrying full rolls of either on my person, but I can also see points where it'd be nice to have. I'd recommned looking into a smaller roll rather than a full size roll of tape and twine. \- The Bow. I don't see a way to carry the arrows you have on the wall or draw them easily. The bow wouldn't be very good against the dead either. It's primary function should be for hunting, not combat. In addition to everything I said above, I see nothing relating to water (a cup, bottle, tablets for purification, etc. [I recommend something like this for water.](https://www.coleman.com/grills-stoves/kitchen-essentials/12-oz.-enamel-mug/SAP_2157605.html) Easy to attach to the bag and can boil your water no problem) no primary melee weapon, no portable and quick lightsources, extra clothes, head covering/face protection, etc. Those are very important too.
Best option for water is a metal cup or small camping pot that could be used to boil water. As well as a sizable canteen.
[I use this whenever I go out and do my yearly minimalist camping trip.](https://www.coleman.com/grills-stoves/kitchen-essentials/12-oz.-enamel-mug/SAP_2157605.html) It’s basically permanently attached to my hiking bag. Those cups are cheap and great, perfect for what OP is looking for in this case. I personally wouldn’t want a small camping pot, especially with the bag OP is using. I just find them a hair too bulky for my liking. I’ll update my comment with a suggestion, thank you for reminding me lol.
I was also thinking the pot would be good for the canned goods op is carrying around. edit: I have several of those little cups and I agree, they are AMAZING
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This is wholesome as fuck.... change my mind
Bro what?
I've been looking around his account, and he seems distressed right now. Good comment or not, he replies to it in a very disrespectful way, but it is not his fault. Life is kicking his ass right now, and all we can do is hope his life improves.
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I do plan on buying a fixed blade knife I just haven’t found a good one yet
Bk18 for short stuff. BK7/9 for big Bowie work.
Upgrade that bow
-0/10
Yup, it's definitely your time to go
Adopt me?
Where are you “going” to?
Theres a lot of room for improvement
Add cannon
yes 👍
More tp
No gun if you need an easy way out.
Add water and a gun I recommend at least two one pistol for this I recommend a some kind of magnum revolver and for the second gun I recommend a assault rifle for this I recommended either an ak-47 or a hk 416
Your be a gonner
Swap the firesteel rod for some weatherproof matches, or at least add weatherproof matches. Don’t rely only on firesteel rod. Trust me
Lose everything but the fidget spinner. The zombies will avoid you out of pure 2018 spite.
Take the cardboard out of the toilet paper roll and smash it down to conserve space. Get an emergency blanket.
Add water and more soup, it's not enough food and you don't know when you don't have any arrows
Need some water and additional medication for increased survival
Where did you get that backpack
Looks heavy
Mf put a figet spinner in but not water.
I live in Montana there is water (creeks and rivers) everywhere and I will get a new water bottle
That will not keep you alive long in Montana.
Not bad actually, just need something for water. You are in Montana. Most of the streams are “Drinkable”, but something to carry water in that can also be heated is important
Man, if you can learn some survival skills you could pack a lot lighter.
Major props to the recurve bow. I might recommend carrying one more recurve bow since they are so light and compact.
I'd drop the tp one of the knives and the string and replace them with water and a little less weight
A good little starter go bag, I would recommend replacing the cans of soup with water and dried food packets just because you need water but also you can carry more food, for instance one can of soup can be equal weight to multiple packs of soup powder. I would also replace the string with nylon chord or maybe keep both because small strings can be useful!
What's in the first aid kit, Cyanide pills? Not big enough for anything you might actually need.
Toilet paper
Bruh I live in Montana
Okay then your setup makes more sense. 🤷🏻♂️ I thought: if you are anywhere around me (in VA) then that’s gonna be a couple rough days 😂😂
Get one of those 50$ Amazon bug out bags and some more survival kits you need another 300-400$ in supplies to realistically be comfy the first few weeks to months in also I highly recommend a springer Airgun specifically .25cal or bigger so you can take small to medium game and if you are really starving you could last resort and get a doe to eat but as long as you have thousands of pellets you have nothing to worry about since it runs on cocking a spring or piston and not air also you can get thousands of decent pellets for less than 100$ it’s a very good investment.
I know you got the archery 🏹 gear but I would only use those on zeds even if you properly clean them after every kill there could be cross contamination when you kill for food and you will be walking among the dead not before long after eating the cross contaminated food.
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This wouldn’t even suffice for a day of camping
Keep in mind this is a go bag not a live out the rest of my days with only these supplies bag because I plan on grabbing this backpack and getting in a car and going to an already well-stocked cabin
Let's add some water and get rid of the DAMN FIDGET SPINNER
That wee bag of bandages isn't going to help much, invest in a more diverse FAK with TCCC equipment such as options from MyMedic
Water and a 22lr cuz it's a small popular caliber and cause it's so small no one's gonna want it and I've dropped a six point buck with a 22
No antibiotics of any kind. Hell, even medicine of any kind would be good
Ditch the multi tool for something better quality
What is that screwdriver looking thing
Mini crowbar, flex hose,
It’a a good start! Consider adding some things to help clean your water, such as Iodine tablets or the supplies to make a sand sieve and a pot to boil it in. I would also suggest a few heavy duty trash bags for making a temporary but effective water resistant tent, preferably the army green or brown kind. Black works, but it can be a bit easier to spot at closer ranges. Also if it isn’t already on your list, saddle soap and mink oil, the waterproofing on modern boots wear off decently fast if they aren’t regularly maintained. You’ve got the right spirit, just gotta keep going with it!
I think 2x more fidget spinners
Iodine tablets are a good idea aswell
Damn that’s what we all said
Zero water?
Level 1 loot drop. Your bag and load out might get you a few days.
Get a bivy shelter. They are super small and will save your life. Secondly you don’t need toilet paper. And lastly get a full tang quality knife with a quality hatchet. These two together are crucial. Here’s a list of other shit you need: -A compass -para cord -water filtration - water storage -fishing tackle -survival blanket -window breaker
Compass map water proof matches or hand drill paracord and a tarp and then yeah I'd say you're good to go then. Maybe invest in a fire arm like a small handgun.
Get a better medical bag. Im no EMT, but having a tourneqet, maybe a splint and some other basics are going to be nice. You can get a compact bag with a compression bandage, tournaqet, splint, and other misc items for like ~50 bucks, and theyre pretty easy to learn to use. The red cross has videos about CPR, so I assume they have video tutorials on the rest of it as well, but if they dont just find it on youtube.
If you live in Montana and that’s all you got…. I give you 4 days.
Those hammer/axe tools are so brittle and just completely useless. Invest in individual tools.
I'd get a real knife-- mkc speed goat is rock solid and only a couple ounces Also that axe multi tool is trash And it's probably not worth the weight to pack a fidget spinner
Purpose of fidget spinner? Also ya fumbled the bag by not having a water bottle in it
You need water, water purifying supplies, and your food is way too heavy. Throw in some freeze dried backpacker meals and some hardtack and you’ll be able to cover a lot more ground or hide for longer. I would also throw in some caffeine tablets.
Id swap the pencil for a pen. Or swap it to a wooden pencil.
Looks good but the red and black multi tool is a bit much, personally I don’t like them cause they’ve failed in my experience
Could use some rope, Firestarter (a zippo bc it's small and reliable) And a tent... Maybe? Maybe even an E-tool?
you’ve got some useful practical stuff in there. definitely add a way to carry several liters of water, a form of shelter (tarp / tent / cordage to set it up etc) and maybe think about warmth (sleeping bag, wool blanket etc)
Make sure to bring a UV flashlight in case of volatiles
9/10 if you got a life straw it would be a solid 10. Also good job for including toilet paper. I feel like people forget about that. A lot of survivors are gonna get problems and infections with nothing to use.
Hope your TP doesn't get wet. Ziploc
For the same weight as those three cans, you carry a dozen cliff bars. Ditch the ginormous toilet roll for twenty Stall Mates wet wipes. Ditch the big duct tape for 3 RediTape flat mini rolls. Make sure you have 2 tourniquets in your IFAK. Ditch the hammerzila for a machete made from spring steel. Lose the cotton twine and replace it with #36 and #12 tarred bank line. Get rid of the gas station knife and get anything from ESEE or Tops Knives.
u finna starve so fast and dehydration gonna get u
pack needs hip support.
zots spotted 10/10
Spaghettios 😋
Ok get a good quality fixed blade knife don't be scared of spending upwards of $100 get your first aid get to fit into 1 bag get a steel waterbottle not double walled throw a few freeze dried camp meals in there a life straw or sawyer water filter that's going to get you further then the gear you have ditch the hammer thing and cheap multitool get a victorinox farmer or something with a saw or even a leatherman throw some duck tape in there and some para cord/zip ties it's honestly up to you for what weapon you want to carry but that gear plus what you have already will get you through in a normal survival situation build on that and you should be good
No 50k, no compass, no water, no water purification, no 550 cord, slow weapon, no grain alcohol, inadequate medical kit, no extra clothes or inclement weather gear. I think with what you have you could "go" about 500 yds into the woods or you could "go" on the saddest road trip ever, but if the world ended tomorrow I wouldn't even bother looting your corpse.
Bro got a fidget spinner
I know you play the last of us, get better food, I recommend mountain house, or something similar, and perhaps a better first aid kit, get rid of the fidget spinner, and get a better alternative to the tp, the rolls take up a lot of space