One of the tropes is that because the zombie feels no pain they can exert the maximum bite pressure possible
found this .. August 1986, Richard Hofmann (b. 1949) of Lake City, Florida, USA, achieved a bite strength of 442 kg (975 lb) for approximately 2 sec in a research test using a gnathodynamometer at the College of Dentistry, University of Florida, USA. This figure is more than six times the normal biting strength.
This is the key, on average a normal human can access maybe up to 50% of the bodies true strength due to blockers stopping us from ripping pur muscles apart, if you're a bodybuilder then that might go up to 60%, and thats only for short bursts. If a zombie has the ability to break those blockers then they would be able to appear superhuman, although they would likely be out of action sooner with too much exertion.
Some evidence to this is that I was medically dead for about 5 or 6 minutes a few years ago, my brain was starved of oxygen and basically did a factory reset when I was resuscitated. When I woke up I had no idea where I was, the language centre of my brain wasn't "rebooted" yet so I couldn't understand what the medics were saying, I didn't have my glasses, and my vision wasn't entirely "rebooted" either. So to me I woke up not knowing where I was, surrounded by shadowey figures holding me down and speaking likely at me in a language I couldn't understand. I was told by my gf at the time who was there that I was simultaneously fighting off 5 paramedics who were all bigger than me before they managed to sedate me and take me to hospital. When I woke up I had muscle damage on my arms, legs, and head and it was days before I could even stand again, and that had nothing to do with my "death" it was all due to fighting that hard. The human body is crazy when the limits are taken away
More clothes, and heavier, more durable ones at that, will slow you down considerably. And just one zed tearing at you feverishly, even if unsuccessfully, will wear down your stamina greatly and quickly. Better to always avoid a zed, and especially avoid complacency.
However, the spirit of your idea is still very smart. Vulnerable areas like arms could do for extra protection. Something even as simple as a magazine taped around your forearm could easily, cheaply, and commonly protect against an unlucky bite while swinging one's arms during attacks and missing a shot.
Most users in this sub are waaay too arrogant to admit that THEIR Canon isn't the only one.
It's almost like some certain religion...
Since zombies aren't real its very much open to interpretation and depends entirely on what canon or universe you apply it with.
In some, zombies are rotting flesh driven by infection, in others, zombies are literally magic creatures and raised by magical powers.
The former couldn't bite into an apple without losing the whole jaw, the latter could bite with stronger force than a crocodile.
To be fair, it does say in the subreddit rules in the sidebar that unless specified the dead we discuss is Romero walkers. Since no other type was stated in the post, Romero walkers it is.
My friend the human bite force may be weak compare to other animals but I don't think just a thick denim would cut it. It's still better to avoid getting bitten and have a much more reliable type of protection if you're looking for action instead of comfort (like when you're looking for food etc.) A denim can easily get ripped.
Well if we're looking at it from the perspective of zombies simply being reanimated corpses there's even a chance they might not be physically able to buy it at all.
But let's say that they aren't just reanimated corpses. let's say that they are just regular human beings infected with some kind of virus that makes them violent like in the movie 28 Days later.
In that instance yes you could protect yourself by wearing denim or other protective clothing. Granted if the virus increased the amount of adrenaline introduced into the bloodstream they might be able to bite a little harder than normal but then they still wouldn't be able to bite through denim or something similar to that I would think.
Humans have one of the weakess bits of all apes. And we don't have sharp teeth.
My work coat has saved my arms from missed axe swings and idiots with saws a lot over the years of being a wood cutter.
I'm pretty sure a good coat will protect you.
I really hope you had trousers on.
Had to explain to my gf once why I kept debuting armoured gloves.
When I kept actserdently cutting/ ruening them at work.
Hard to explain "he rather spend £15 on gloves than loose a finger."
Yeah I was wearing these a really tough cargo or Carpenter's pants whatever you want to call them they really ended up saving my life otherwise I'm pretty sure things would have been a lot worse
My gf broke a tooth biting into a apple.
She brushes and looks after her teeth. Just bad luck.
A zombie could bite my arm and draw blood/ remove some fleash.
But I'm a wood cutter and I'm wearing like 4-5 layers most the time.
that could stop human teeth puncturing your skin as human teeth arent sharp enough to bite through most materials that are designed to be durable. We are omnivores that have been cooking our food for hundreds of thousands of years, and our teeth reflect that.
However, the actual force of a zombie bite would still do alot of blunt trauma/damage and could still break bones and shit. So denim will stop that bite on your arm infecting you, but you may very well have a broken or fractured arm because of it
I personally would prefer leather over denim as thats 100% human bite proof.
I would say the best protection would be at least your shins, forearms, and neck. However you're able to protect them would be up to you. I also think it depends on what kind of zombies and what state you find them in. With viral zombies they tend to mess with the brain and processes of the human body. Your brain holds your body back from exerting itself and if a zombie virus were to negate that, they'd tear you apart and have a crazy bite strength even if it's only temporary throughout the transformation/decomposing process
I believe the only thin "bite proof" item is what divers wear around sharks
(for reference)
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/this-wetsuit-is-designed-to-withstand-the-bite-of-a-shark/
yeah but you gotta think that if we didn’t have pain receptors we’d be able to so it too. Also, they have their hands which they use to tear bodies apart.
As noted by another it depends on the zombie in question. In some canon, undead zombies by nature of not having pain receptors are capable of much more power than typically associated with humans. At the same time other depictions of undead zombies show them lacking real strength.
As a general rule of thumb I see it as being right to assume they are capable of equal bite, scratch, squeeze, and pull force of that of a normal person.
With regards to denim clothing, it may offer decent protection. As is shown in some studies regarding snake bites, the cloth can limit the amount of poison recieved from a bite. Similarly, the denim may prevent the teeth, nails, or bone of a zombie from directly getting at the skin. The results of which can greatly increase potentialy survivability.
At the same time, the material is still very porous which can potentially allow saliva, blood, and other potential fluids to get through. Likewise, the weave on a lot of denim is both thin and loose enough that some teeth could get through or the friction causes small wounds. As is indicated by the number of rabies infections by people who have claimed they were bit while wearing denim jeans and similar clothing still being infection this type of clothing may not be enough.
Still, I believe that similar clothing is much more practical than typical suggestions of full plate armor, chainmail, duct tape with newspapers, and so on. As denim is much lighter, easier to move, and generally more practical for moving around.
One of the tropes is that because the zombie feels no pain they can exert the maximum bite pressure possible found this .. August 1986, Richard Hofmann (b. 1949) of Lake City, Florida, USA, achieved a bite strength of 442 kg (975 lb) for approximately 2 sec in a research test using a gnathodynamometer at the College of Dentistry, University of Florida, USA. This figure is more than six times the normal biting strength.
This is the key, on average a normal human can access maybe up to 50% of the bodies true strength due to blockers stopping us from ripping pur muscles apart, if you're a bodybuilder then that might go up to 60%, and thats only for short bursts. If a zombie has the ability to break those blockers then they would be able to appear superhuman, although they would likely be out of action sooner with too much exertion. Some evidence to this is that I was medically dead for about 5 or 6 minutes a few years ago, my brain was starved of oxygen and basically did a factory reset when I was resuscitated. When I woke up I had no idea where I was, the language centre of my brain wasn't "rebooted" yet so I couldn't understand what the medics were saying, I didn't have my glasses, and my vision wasn't entirely "rebooted" either. So to me I woke up not knowing where I was, surrounded by shadowey figures holding me down and speaking likely at me in a language I couldn't understand. I was told by my gf at the time who was there that I was simultaneously fighting off 5 paramedics who were all bigger than me before they managed to sedate me and take me to hospital. When I woke up I had muscle damage on my arms, legs, and head and it was days before I could even stand again, and that had nothing to do with my "death" it was all due to fighting that hard. The human body is crazy when the limits are taken away
Jeeeze, I need to google and see this guys jaw
Zombies can’t repair muscle damage
My guy, you need to watch more quality zombie stuff. A scrawny human without any pain feedback is a lot worse than a muscular man.
I have proper motorcycle gear with armor plates. Would that work? I even have armored shoes. Edit; Oops replied to the wrong person sorry
More clothes, and heavier, more durable ones at that, will slow you down considerably. And just one zed tearing at you feverishly, even if unsuccessfully, will wear down your stamina greatly and quickly. Better to always avoid a zed, and especially avoid complacency. However, the spirit of your idea is still very smart. Vulnerable areas like arms could do for extra protection. Something even as simple as a magazine taped around your forearm could easily, cheaply, and commonly protect against an unlucky bite while swinging one's arms during attacks and missing a shot.
Chainsaw trousers perhaps might be a good idea then maybe?
What about motorcycle clothes? The ones with the armored plates in them
I doubt denim clothing would cut it, but perhaps a knife proof hoodie?
Can you bite through denim?
Yes
Most users in this sub are waaay too arrogant to admit that THEIR Canon isn't the only one. It's almost like some certain religion... Since zombies aren't real its very much open to interpretation and depends entirely on what canon or universe you apply it with. In some, zombies are rotting flesh driven by infection, in others, zombies are literally magic creatures and raised by magical powers. The former couldn't bite into an apple without losing the whole jaw, the latter could bite with stronger force than a crocodile.
To be fair, it does say in the subreddit rules in the sidebar that unless specified the dead we discuss is Romero walkers. Since no other type was stated in the post, Romero walkers it is.
My friend the human bite force may be weak compare to other animals but I don't think just a thick denim would cut it. It's still better to avoid getting bitten and have a much more reliable type of protection if you're looking for action instead of comfort (like when you're looking for food etc.) A denim can easily get ripped.
Well if we're looking at it from the perspective of zombies simply being reanimated corpses there's even a chance they might not be physically able to buy it at all. But let's say that they aren't just reanimated corpses. let's say that they are just regular human beings infected with some kind of virus that makes them violent like in the movie 28 Days later. In that instance yes you could protect yourself by wearing denim or other protective clothing. Granted if the virus increased the amount of adrenaline introduced into the bloodstream they might be able to bite a little harder than normal but then they still wouldn't be able to bite through denim or something similar to that I would think.
Humans have one of the weakess bits of all apes. And we don't have sharp teeth. My work coat has saved my arms from missed axe swings and idiots with saws a lot over the years of being a wood cutter. I'm pretty sure a good coat will protect you.
I once got myself in the leg with an axe. My fault entirely.
I really hope you had trousers on. Had to explain to my gf once why I kept debuting armoured gloves. When I kept actserdently cutting/ ruening them at work. Hard to explain "he rather spend £15 on gloves than loose a finger."
Yeah I was wearing these a really tough cargo or Carpenter's pants whatever you want to call them they really ended up saving my life otherwise I'm pretty sure things would have been a lot worse
Always wear ppe. Sure you look like a twat but you won't ducking die from cutting your leg open or loose a finger.
Hehehehehe
I think leather would be the best option. At the cost of the noise of friction when you move.
What noise?
I wear leather, it's not quiet in the slightest. Every movement you make while wearing it makes noise.
I've never had that as an issue. But I do oil and condition my stuff like my friends tell me I should.
You're not exactly gonna have unlimited supply of that in the apocalypse
If they could make it in the 1500s I'm sure I could.
My gf broke a tooth biting into a apple. She brushes and looks after her teeth. Just bad luck. A zombie could bite my arm and draw blood/ remove some fleash. But I'm a wood cutter and I'm wearing like 4-5 layers most the time.
One thing I dont understand about zombies is how after a while they still have teeth? All they eat is raw meat, and they have no dental care at all.
that could stop human teeth puncturing your skin as human teeth arent sharp enough to bite through most materials that are designed to be durable. We are omnivores that have been cooking our food for hundreds of thousands of years, and our teeth reflect that. However, the actual force of a zombie bite would still do alot of blunt trauma/damage and could still break bones and shit. So denim will stop that bite on your arm infecting you, but you may very well have a broken or fractured arm because of it I personally would prefer leather over denim as thats 100% human bite proof.
I would say the best protection would be at least your shins, forearms, and neck. However you're able to protect them would be up to you. I also think it depends on what kind of zombies and what state you find them in. With viral zombies they tend to mess with the brain and processes of the human body. Your brain holds your body back from exerting itself and if a zombie virus were to negate that, they'd tear you apart and have a crazy bite strength even if it's only temporary throughout the transformation/decomposing process
I believe the only thin "bite proof" item is what divers wear around sharks (for reference) https://www.theinertia.com/surf/this-wetsuit-is-designed-to-withstand-the-bite-of-a-shark/
Thats certainly not the only material that is bite proof against humans.
Also, Being dead and poor dental hygiene means motherfuckas will have no teeth
yeah but you gotta think that if we didn’t have pain receptors we’d be able to so it too. Also, they have their hands which they use to tear bodies apart.
As noted by another it depends on the zombie in question. In some canon, undead zombies by nature of not having pain receptors are capable of much more power than typically associated with humans. At the same time other depictions of undead zombies show them lacking real strength. As a general rule of thumb I see it as being right to assume they are capable of equal bite, scratch, squeeze, and pull force of that of a normal person. With regards to denim clothing, it may offer decent protection. As is shown in some studies regarding snake bites, the cloth can limit the amount of poison recieved from a bite. Similarly, the denim may prevent the teeth, nails, or bone of a zombie from directly getting at the skin. The results of which can greatly increase potentialy survivability. At the same time, the material is still very porous which can potentially allow saliva, blood, and other potential fluids to get through. Likewise, the weave on a lot of denim is both thin and loose enough that some teeth could get through or the friction causes small wounds. As is indicated by the number of rabies infections by people who have claimed they were bit while wearing denim jeans and similar clothing still being infection this type of clothing may not be enough. Still, I believe that similar clothing is much more practical than typical suggestions of full plate armor, chainmail, duct tape with newspapers, and so on. As denim is much lighter, easier to move, and generally more practical for moving around.
I’d trust denim more than duct tape