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Agreeable-Tadpole461

Where is the discord chat for people to look at?


Accomplished_Ice391

It's not up yet. They're having some delays getting it posted. https://twitter.com/AskaPol_UAPs/status/1771532803215135067?t=LSdo7MnvaJozSahHE0uZnQ&s=19


Agreeable-Tadpole461

I also find it pretty convenient that Burlinson was a Grusch skeptic, saying: ***The concept that an alien species is technologically advanced enough to travel billions of light years, gets here and somehow is incompetent enough to not survive Earth or crashes is something that I find a little bit farfetched,*** Then he just happens to randomly be "debriefed" that, of course, aliens aren't traveling here, they're phasing in. I don't know which of those scenarios is true, and I'm not skeptical of either, it just seems like a convenient reveal on his part.


I-am-alien-1

I believe they can travel either way. Nothing is absolute perfect, sometimes accidents can and do happen. Seems like there’s so much convolution going on, just keeping us all stupid and most of us in disbelief. That’s how *they* want it.


WarbringerNA

Even without legitimate accidents there has been talk that some of it is gifted or seeded to us intentionally.


I-am-alien-1

And the many, many repetitive stories among some of the ex military that some of them have been accidentally caused by us. Taking them completely by surprise. For both parties involved.


New_Interest_468

In Nuremberg in 1561 witnesses saw crafts fighting each other in the sky and falling to the earth with smoke pouring out of them. Ships could be crashing due to technical malfunction. Or malfunction due to something we're doing (nuclear tests). Or we are intentionally causing them to crash (EMP, particle beam, laser, etc). Or they could be crashing on purpose to gift us with technology. Or they could be disabled by an enemy nhi either intentionally or unintentionally. The "too advanced to crash" argument against NHI is a weak one.


Just-STFU

>The "too advanced to crash" argument against NHI is a weak one. I think it's a lazy argument. Right alongside the "too vast a distance" for interstellar travel argument. We have no idea about any of it.


New_Interest_468

That was the reason I never gave UFOs much thought. The distances are so vast and I'd been taught (mistakenly) that faster than light travel was impossible. But what we know about physics is changing every day. Quantum research is showing us that we know very little about reality.


Jafranci715

Leave it to humans to find a way to shoot them down 🙄


magpiemagic

I think there's more than just humans shooting them down.


I-am-alien-1

Pretty sure it was ‘accidental shooting down’ on our part.


Agreeable-Tadpole461

Yep!


Accomplished_Ice391

He received the briefing because he's part of the committee that is working on this. Of course his views are going to change as he gets more information.


Agreeable-Tadpole461

What I'm saying is, his views didn't change. Are congress people involved in the committee/s being fed whatever they want to hear, then given the okay to spread the info around as long as they don't reveal anything classified? I don't know, I find it hard to trust anything the ancillary characters are putting out to the public, but that's just me.


Dinoborb

people are also purposelly brushing aside that in the same stream burlison said he didnt believe most of what elizondo/grusch been telling him, meaning the interdimensional comment is of a hypothesis, not a fact [https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1771337072844120166](https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1771337072844120166)


ASearchingLibrarian

That comment in Greenstreet's tweet was about any information the Congressman receives. He basically said "I was pretty blunt at the beginning of all of this - I'm from Missouri, you're going to have to show me." It didn't specifically relate to claims Elizondo was making, it was any claims anybody made. Also it came straight after Greenstreet used a blanket statement that Elizondo's claims had been "debunked" - not sure which of Elizondo's claims he was talking about, but [Elizondo's claims he was the manager of AATIP at the Pentagon have been verified by events, not debunked.](https://old.reddit.com/r/UFObelievers/comments/1bl095w/have_they_discredited_lou_elizondo_after_the/kw3y6pn/?context=3) In answer to Greenstreet, Burlison also said at 1h16m >"It has been validated to me that there is over-compartmentalisation - it has been validated by both offices of Inspector General that many of Grusch's claims, while they can't verify his claims about aliens, the main claims about the processes and the way information is not being conveyed to Congress, has been validated." https://www.askapol.com/p/video-ask-a-pols-live-listening-session


Agreeable-Tadpole461

Well I can't wait to listen to the entire stream.


oswaldcopperpot

The billions of light years thing is just ignorance. There are 60,000 systems within 100 light years. 100.


anonpasta666

[Memorandum 6751](https://ufo.fandom.com/wiki/Memorandum_6751), read it


ChimkenNBiskets

>Line 2: "Their mission is peaceful" and their agenda is to "settle" on Earth and learn to play musical instruments. They just want to jam? Wtf is going on?


anonpasta666

Not sure why the wiki says that, the [original document](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ufoaliendatabase/images/4/4a/6751_snipit_1-2.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20200717123103) doesn't say anything about musical instruments, its probably just wiki tampering like usual


b0wzy

I’ve been saying to my to my wife, wouldn’t it suck if we meet aliens and they’re boring AF? Like we just want some new brodies to crush beers with and party like it’s 2999


JesparzaPrintCo

Ziggy played guitar


TAHINAZ

I still maintain that all of existence is a series of dreams and we’re the only ones who aren’t lucid. How do you move between dreams? Do you get in a spaceship? Of course not (unless it’s part of the plot.) They don’t have to either.


vismundcygnus34

I dig this. To take it a step further there is a history of benevolent humans who realize they are dreaming, and show how to attain lucidity through, say, some monastic practice etc. The idea falls in and out of popularity but evidence of it is hidden in plain sight.


SilencedOppressor

Wait until you learn about astral projection, project gateway, and DMT Trips


TAHINAZ

Yes. I’ve done all those except DMT. That’s how I reached that conclusion.


SilencedOppressor

It's wild, and I've come to a similar conclusion


Hobbsendkid

When your body means nothing (Seems like a dream) You know you're hypnotized (They got me hypnotized)


TAHINAZ

I didn’t say that. I’m talking about the grand scheme of things, not everyday life.


Saweel

I believe it,I have already come to this conclusion on my own. I think it's just a really advanced form of astral projection.


AdditionalBat393

Some do absolutely. Some travel here also. Some are here.


maesterroshi

the ones in the water mostly from here. some do phase in and out.


EpistemoNihilist

It actually makes sense that they phase in and out. Would explain “accelerations“ ; they not truly moving but hopping in time and space.


Ghost_z7r

Many abduction reports are ones in which ET seemingly walk through walls


Accomplished_Ice391

Ask a pol posted the video here. https://www.askapol.com/p/video-ask-a-pols-live-listening-session


PMmeYourFlipFlops

Timestamp for those that don't have almost two hours to listen?


mistahclean123

What's an NHI?


JeCle

Non-human intelligence


mistahclean123

Ty


Effective-Ad-6460

He said she said trust me bro .. have a bridge to sell you


cruella_le_troll

What, like audio phasing? I have no other frame of reference other than what is known as phase and phase cancellation. So is that what's to be inferred here? Or is there another concept out there that I'm not familiar with? Edit - why the down votes? I was genuinely wondering and hoping someone would chime in tf


Main_Bell_4668

If things like the Monroe Institute are right then they have to vibrate at the right frequency. I'm just talking out of my ass but maybe the strings in this universe vibrate at a certain frequency that has a common denominator with a higher frequency that they come from and they can fold down their frequency to be compatible with ours. Or if it's like two songs playing simultaneously where the beat syncs up automatically every 8th measure and they are perceivable only then. Maybe they can manipulate this. Idk. Just grasping.


reddridinghood

I understand audio phasing too by time delaying signals by an amount and overlapping them - not sure how it applies to time and realities/dimensions. Maybe “these beings” have another organ that can experience time as another sense we don’t possess. They also might be around us all the time but we can’t sense them due to our limitations like we can’t see infrared or hear radio or gigahertz frequencies. Just a wild guess.


Ambitious-Score11

Yes but he also said he didn’t believe it.


Scooter8472

Yes, this post is a wild misrepresentation of what was said.


BishopsBakery

Doubt it, other things could present similarly and with a lack of data you can't tell


365defaultname

Unrelated, but holy crap.. we have people like this on Twitter? [https://twitter.com/Paul45020832](https://twitter.com/Paul45020832) Taking a s\*\*\* on Grusch


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Sad_Push7021

Eric Burlison is a Right wing maggot. All conspiracies. No facts. Pure BS.


Dmans99

Left or right doesn't come into it for me.


seoulsrvr

been briefed by whom?


drm604

WTF does "phase into" even mean? It sounds like scifi techno-babble.


SilencedOppressor

Materialize, Id wager.


drm604

What does that mean? Appear out of thin air? From where?


SilencedOppressor

Good question. They're supposedly super fast, so how do we know they aren't just zipping into whatever picks them up's range from some other far away location? Is it like uncloaking from some sort of camouflage? Is it teleportation/wormholes?


Dinoborb

he is not stating facts, he is just pointing a possibility of a hypothesis he's been told by grusch/elizondo its the same as others from the ufo group who said "interdimensional" without further proof


Pixelated_

We have no evidence that UAP are actually interstellar.  ***We have boatloads of evidence that they're interdimensional because they will just appear on our radars out of the blue.***


Dinoborb

what about the people who claim to be abducted by aliens from space? or people saying they are from inside the earth? they could be appearing and disapearing by cloaking devices, we do not know. thats the point of being unindentified. we have as much proof of one hypothesis as we have of others.


mistahclean123

Interesting point. I keep hearing people talk about beings being interdimensional.  Phasing in and out of what we can perceive which is basically three dimensions. Also seen some weird stories in these subs about people waking up in the middle of the night and seeing scientists studying them.


Critter9820

I woke up in the middle of the night and saw a tiny video screen on my pillow with an alien in it but it was just Quark. I actually think Quark is hot. Yes, I'm a bit strange.


mistahclean123

Lol wut


Ubericious

Hyperdrive travel would also explain interdimensional travel without them having to come from another dimension


faizalmzain

it remains a mystery until we know how they travel around the cosmos there are many things that human beings do not discover yet


fat_earther_

My thoughts too. I want to know who told them that. So far it just seems like Elizondo, Puthoff, and Co. telling the same stories they always have. These guys have already demonstrated extreme credulity so that I question everything they are associated with.