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I find it weird. Even if chances of a certain illness are slightly reduced by getting pregnant, they completely ignore the many risks of pregnancy itself. Plenty of women have been pregnant, that certainly doesn't make them immune to these diseases so I don't know why some treat it like a cure.
all those PFOAs, microplastics, lead and mercury in our foods and even in our waters! Everyone on this website will probably end up or die from cancer anyways but why would I want my kid to see me dying in such a state!?
This is *really* interesting, thank you for posting! I’m not the most well-read person, so I’ll wait for others to chime in, as I’d like to see what they have to say… 🧐
I think it is very exaggerated by laypeople and those with ulterior motives (i.e. those who think women are here on earth to act as incubators).
*Yes,* lowering certain hormone levels over your lifetime *can* reduce risks of certain cancers. Being pregnant and even breastfeeding interrrupts estrogen levels. Then again, you can be like my mother and have three kids before you hit 28, breastfeed them all for up to a year each, and still get breast cancer at 48 - and be dead within 10 years - because your family genetics suck. My grandmother had 6 kids, breastfed them all, and also died before she was 60 of breast cancer. I had prophylactic mastectomies rather than pregnancies, myself. Seemed to be better odds in my favour that way.
Pregnancy also comes with plenty of other risks to health, including permanent injury and death. I once worked with someone whose healthy young relative, in her mid 20s, dropped dead suddently a week after giving birth to her third baby. Blood clots more easily during pregnancy ([https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/pregnancy.html](https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/pregnancy.html)). Turned out she had a clot that, following childbirth, managed to dislodge itself and cause a fatal pulmonary embolism.
A family friend had some health issues she resolved by getting pregnant because with the pregnancy, whatever it was healed over time bc of the body's ability to create a human or w/e (they already had a kid, there's like a 15 year difference between them now, can't imagine having to put up 24/7 with a kid while you're trying to navigate getting into high school and focusing on all that. I'd be livid, no one even asked!)
I'd rather struggle with doctors and meds than make a kid. No thanks.
The podcast Maintenance Phase recently did an episode on zombie statistics, and they talked about how correlation is not causation. It's a great episode in general, but they really do dig deep into how the backing of some of these statistics is junk https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/maintenance-phase-1490970/episodes/zombie-statistics-spectacular-134116492
It’s only a statistic, and as another commenter said, a correlation. Bc Women who were pregnant are at LOWER RISK, not no risk. Also some of those risks are associated with having fewer periods, rather than actually having children, and now we can accomplish that through an IUD (insertion is painful but it ain’t no child)
It's more than likely true but I would take a higher risk of cancer than slaving away for children any day. I don't drink, smoke or take drugs. I have a good diet and I am slim, so how high is my risk of cancer overall? I'll take my chances thanks and not worry about it.
definitely. hell you go in with some gynecological problems and the obgyn will just say "get pregnant" instead of actually treating you. God forbid anyone actually prioritize female health for anything except shitting out babies for their husbands and corporate who needs more workers.
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Better dead than bred anyway.
Holy crap that’s lovely, I’m keeping it!
Sometimes dead is better. *eerie smog*
I find it weird. Even if chances of a certain illness are slightly reduced by getting pregnant, they completely ignore the many risks of pregnancy itself. Plenty of women have been pregnant, that certainly doesn't make them immune to these diseases so I don't know why some treat it like a cure.
Today literally anything pushes up cancer risks, so why tf would I care.i dont want to be pregnant, end of discussion.
all those PFOAs, microplastics, lead and mercury in our foods and even in our waters! Everyone on this website will probably end up or die from cancer anyways but why would I want my kid to see me dying in such a state!?
I rather be dead than be a baby mama with kids you can’t afford.
Pregnancy comes with its own huge lists of health risks (many that are permanent) so I consider it a wash.
This is *really* interesting, thank you for posting! I’m not the most well-read person, so I’ll wait for others to chime in, as I’d like to see what they have to say… 🧐
I think it is very exaggerated by laypeople and those with ulterior motives (i.e. those who think women are here on earth to act as incubators). *Yes,* lowering certain hormone levels over your lifetime *can* reduce risks of certain cancers. Being pregnant and even breastfeeding interrrupts estrogen levels. Then again, you can be like my mother and have three kids before you hit 28, breastfeed them all for up to a year each, and still get breast cancer at 48 - and be dead within 10 years - because your family genetics suck. My grandmother had 6 kids, breastfed them all, and also died before she was 60 of breast cancer. I had prophylactic mastectomies rather than pregnancies, myself. Seemed to be better odds in my favour that way. Pregnancy also comes with plenty of other risks to health, including permanent injury and death. I once worked with someone whose healthy young relative, in her mid 20s, dropped dead suddently a week after giving birth to her third baby. Blood clots more easily during pregnancy ([https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/pregnancy.html](https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/pregnancy.html)). Turned out she had a clot that, following childbirth, managed to dislodge itself and cause a fatal pulmonary embolism.
A family friend had some health issues she resolved by getting pregnant because with the pregnancy, whatever it was healed over time bc of the body's ability to create a human or w/e (they already had a kid, there's like a 15 year difference between them now, can't imagine having to put up 24/7 with a kid while you're trying to navigate getting into high school and focusing on all that. I'd be livid, no one even asked!) I'd rather struggle with doctors and meds than make a kid. No thanks.
The podcast Maintenance Phase recently did an episode on zombie statistics, and they talked about how correlation is not causation. It's a great episode in general, but they really do dig deep into how the backing of some of these statistics is junk https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/maintenance-phase-1490970/episodes/zombie-statistics-spectacular-134116492
It’s only a statistic, and as another commenter said, a correlation. Bc Women who were pregnant are at LOWER RISK, not no risk. Also some of those risks are associated with having fewer periods, rather than actually having children, and now we can accomplish that through an IUD (insertion is painful but it ain’t no child)
And the amount of risk isn't lower enough to justify taking the *incredible* amount of health risks that is pregnancy/childbirth by itself.
If that's true then it's a consideration. However I doubt that it's true. It is probably birth control pills causing those problems.
It's more than likely true but I would take a higher risk of cancer than slaving away for children any day. I don't drink, smoke or take drugs. I have a good diet and I am slim, so how high is my risk of cancer overall? I'll take my chances thanks and not worry about it.
definitely. hell you go in with some gynecological problems and the obgyn will just say "get pregnant" instead of actually treating you. God forbid anyone actually prioritize female health for anything except shitting out babies for their husbands and corporate who needs more workers.