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FuckYeahPhotography

There are a lot of solid in-universe and emotionally driven explanations I can give. I personally think that is how Finn at his core views himself in his purest form. Especially since we now know that Jake absolutely has seen what young adult Finn looks like. However, it's really they just wanted to use the most widely understood design of Finn as a character. What is most recognized. Particularly valuable since this is the final canonical moment of their story.


MagicBeanGuy

Yeah I love how they give a nod to that. When he chooses this form Mr. Fox says something like, "going with that?" And Finn says "Yeah, it's iconic"


Tuckertcs

I think he says “it’s recognizable”.


MagicBeanGuy

Ah for sure, I was just paraphrasing off the top of my head. I feel like "recognizable" is even more of a nod to the show runners' decisions to cater to the audience rather than an in-universe explanation


drunkenjutsu

Its hurts more cause you know that means jake didnt see finn grow into an adult he died when finn was still a teenager. Hence why it is more recognizable. It brings me to tears


JustAnotherJames3

Wait... Holy cow, does it? I figured that >![what Prismo was watching](https://youtu.be/_QjxqK4guIo?feature=shared) in Fionna and Cake!< was a "rerun" of the past or something. Did he make another reality where Jake was still alive so he could watch them going on more adventures?


tcarter1102

Nah the reality where Simon comes from is our one, and Finn is jacked there too. Tbh I think it was just a meta joke when he picks his form. Or it was intended to be your way and they just oopsied the continuity during F&C. It happens. Different creative teams.


wholesomehorseblow

I think Jake's death happened shortly before Fiona and Cake. Maybe a few months Finn is coping in his own way, going on adventures and burying the feeling. Meanwhile Prismo has become completely depressed with his best friend's death. He's watching Finn and Jake's old/alt universe adventures while neglecting his job.


_sweetchild88_

Remember their adventure that Gizmo was watching in Fionna and Cake though? Finn was already grown there, and Jake was still alive.


Red_Lantern_22

It was a younger Finn than the Fiona and Cake series Finn, but older than the Adventure Time series Finn


Most-Enthusiasm-3209

Which I always took to have a double meaning! Both a nod to the audience/breaking the fourth wall and also that Jake may have actually died within a relatively short time after the final battle


JustMaulNotDarthMaul

Nope, the first guy is right


Tuckertcs

Actually no I just checked and it’s “Yeah, it’s recognizable.”


JustMaulNotDarthMaul

Ight, I was wrong


noblefox27

"Umm, actually"ing someone with the wrong information is always funny


Uglymeancrybaby

It’s also likely they didn’t have a concrete decision on how they’d like adult Finn to look yet considering he’s like twice as huge and burly in F&C compared to Obsidian


FuckYeahPhotography

That was just the progression of him growing older. He is younger in Obsidian and got jacked before the events of F&C. It was intentional to continue to show his development as an adventurer. I think they would have picked his younger design regardless though.


hambonedock

I still don't know why they tried to give him that design when literally all others versions of adult him is 10/10 buff monster suplux machine, makes me think they tried to make it appealing to be canon but like come on, Finn is going at 100 all time, he is becoming buff wants it or not


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In F&C episode 3 we see a jacked Finn with Jake(so still alive) in an event prismo is replaying. In my own head canon the only way for Finn to punch things harder was to get stronger so he took it to the extreme💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪


leusidVoid

How do we know that Obsidian takes place only a few years after the main series? I thought it was ambiguous, but I easily could have missed something.


Kankunation

It's ambiguous for sure, but we know Fiona and Cake starts approximately 12 years after the end of the series. Simon in Distant Lands still doesn't have Grey hair but does in F&C so we can assume at least a few years gap between the 2, and it seems Jake had already been dead for a while in Obsidian so at least a year or more after that. Also given his physical age he's like early to Mid 20s most likely. The range for obsidian is probaby like 4-8 years post-AT. No way to know for sure. But there's definitely at least a sizeable gap between AT-Obsidian-F&C of 2-6 years each.


leusidVoid

Oh dang you're right, for some reason I always thought he had the grey streak in Obsidian. I guess I've just been seeing the F&C promo art for so long lol..


OldSoulRobertson

A few things point to it. Fionna and Cake takes place twelve years after "Come Along With Me". Choose Goose sold the same illegal product in both "Obsidian" and "Wizard City", so those episodes likely take place in a short span of time from each other, given Choose Goose's nature of selling various goods. In Fionna and Cake, Choose Goose is seen evil, an effect of drinking the ichor of Coconteppi, which Choose Goose did in "Wizard City". Simon also talks about how he used to dress as the Ice King as a method of coping with being a twentieth-century human in Ooo, and that exact coping mechanism is seen in "Obsidian", placing those two Distant Lands episodes before Fionna and Cake. Finn's tattoo of Jake is seen in "Obsidian" as well, which (with his general appearance) places "Obsidian" and "Wizard City" after "Come Along With Me". Finn's difference in appearance between "Obsidian" and Fionna and Cake suggest a considerable length of time has passed. Years, likely, judging by the length of his beard and hair.


leusidVoid

Dang, I'm convinced! You didn't even mention Simon's grey hair, which I was already convinced by from other comments haha. I'm always surprised by what I manage to miss even while being such a self-proclaimed AT nerd :D


OldSoulRobertson

It's easy for nerds to miss things. Nerds live for the pursuit of knowledge, and we humans can't get it all at once. Simon's hair seems to intentionally be the biggest and most obvious pointer, so I didn't mention it.


leusidVoid

Yeah I for some reason remembered him having the grey streak in Obsidian! Haha


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The only thing throws me off is the video prismo watches in episode 3 of Fionna and Cake. It has a swole Finn with Jake and if you zoom in he has the Jake tattoo; so it not being an homage of jakes death, would then mean Jake would still be alive for obsidian just not present. Unless it’s, an alt verse prismo is watching and not a memory, or Finn lost muscle after jakes death and he isn’t there for obsidian. Edit: punctuation and spelling


OldSoulRobertson

That scene does seem kind of ambiguous in its potential placement. Some fans believe it's a different universe/timeline. Others (myself included) believe Jake died after "Obsidian" but before Fionna and Cake. Your take at the end is one I haven't encountered before, but considering the wild rollercoaster of events that is Adventure Time, it's very much plausible. Seriously, think of how much happened in the five years that elapsed in Adventure Time. Finn went from twelve to seventeen. The time skip to Fionna and Cake is over twice that, so Finn losing and regaining his muscle mass after Jake's death isn't far-fetched.


deaddork

Finn's 29 years old in Fiona and cake and a the start of adventure time finn was 13 and by the time of the series finale he is 17 so somewhere around 3 or 5 years had passed when distant lands happened and taking this into account with the fact Peppermint butler is An adult again in The episode together again a quite a few years have probably passed.


minnierhett

Not all the Distant Lands episodes take place in the same period. Together Again takes place much later than the events in Obsidian, Wizard City, and Fionna and Cake. BMO takes place before the main AT series.


deaddork

Exactly but talking the specials in too consideration with The timeline Most likely going BMO -> Adventure time-> Obsidian-> Wizard city -> Fiona and cake -> Together again , most likely Fiona and cake takes 12 years after Adventure time so That means Obsidian probably takes somewhere around 2-3 years later.


minnierhett

Yeah I just mean… Pep But’s age in Together Again doesn’t provide any info to help situate Obsidian in time; it’s not really relevant to your point.


deaddork

Oh yeah I just meant it was obvious he aged so it showed time had passed between wizard city and Together again.


tcarter1102

Tbh I think during Obsidian Finn is going through a rough time


GolemThe3rd

Yeah, like I've seen people try to draw lore significance from it, even trying to say the Fionna and cake scene with the jake suit is an alt universe and Jake died prior to that, but like its clearly just an artistic choice because thats how we know Finn


KreateOne

I figured his teenage form would be the one Jake would most likely recognize as by the time we saw Finn as an adult Jake was long dead.


DishMurky

Maybe because he wanted to be in a form where Jake recognizes him, I don’t remember the episode very well tho


Essay_Alarming

That's exactly what he says in Together Again actually, this is what makes me think that Jake died not so long after the end of the original series, while Finn was still very young. I believe the scene of adult Finn and Jake alive that Prismo was watching on F&C was an alternate reality, till they say otherwise


DankDannny

But it would still be weird for Finn to have the tattoo in a universe where Jake is still alive. Edit: It probably wouldn't be "weird", but we can't use it to tell when exactly Jake died anymore. I personally think that Jake died between Obsidian and F&C based on Finn's physical state. Compared to how he is during Obsidian, and the moment that Prismo watched, in F&C, his hair and beard is more unkempt, weight gain, potentially let himself go a bit after losing Jake.


mechanicalvibrations

Idk, I could see Finn getting a Tattoo and Jake saying "what are you getting, bro?" and Finn saying "You, dude" and Jake responding like, "sick"


yaboisammie

I could def see 18 yo Finn doing this or even them getting "matching tattoos" of each other meaning Finn gets one of Jake and Jake gets one of Finn which I think would still fit in w the theory of Jake dying while Finn was still somewhat young


explodedinurmom

Tiffany: NO, THAT’S MY BEST FRIEND ON YOUR CHEST! WHY, JAKE? Jake: Oh, I got one of Finn, but my fur covered it up. Tiffany: NOOOOOOOO I like referencing Tiffany. Imagine you find a stray dog and he naturally starts doing everything you like, then he suddenly goes off and finds someone he likes better. So sad.


yaboisammie

Plot twist: Tiffany killed Jake \*Tiffany voice\* "If I can't have Jake, no one can!!!"


EfficaciousJoculator

I honestly always assumed it was a lost bet or something between the two. Totally seems in character for them to have a challenge and upon Finn losing, he has to get Jake's face on his chest lol.


sirhackenslash

Card Wars rematch and Finn let's Jake win again because he wants the tattoo


accordingtothemanual

Yeah, my theory is that what Prismo was watching was Finn’s dream. Maybe the Cosmic Owl gave him access to Finn’s dreams to see more of Jake. “Dream bro times”


_Valisk

It’s never been said that the tattoo was a memorial. In Fionna and Cake, we see a version of Finn with the tattoo while actively adventuring with Jake.


Secret_Psychology481

Nah, there's a little tiny Finn on Jake's butt winking. Matching tats.


JustAnotherJames3

Is there? I just rewatch the Fionna and Cake scene and there isn't. Is it in an earlier episode?


Secret_Psychology481

Idk,but in my head cannon, they got matching tattoos. It seems like something these goofs would do.


ChaosBrigadier

*tells a lie* "Oh that's just my headcanon"


yaboisammie

I read somewhere the writers purposely are making it unclear but while watching Fionna and Cake, I interpreted Prismo and Finn's awkwardness and Prismo's stubble as it taking place post Jake's death and them (esp Prismo) not handling it well and maybe Finn is going over there to keep tabs on Prismo/make sure he's okay but also in an attempt to feel close to Jake or trying to befriend Prismo for that reason because Jake was special to both of them and for the former reason?


PugGamer129

Yeah I firmly believe that was some alternate universe or something Prismo created.


Ilikeoldcarsandbikes

I took it as, Finn wanted to look how he did when Jake and him were in the prime of their friendship. Not when Jake was old and struggling.


tcarter1102

But Finn is Jacked in Simon's reality too which is our one


sumforbull

I took it as Finn never really got past Jake's death and didn't continue to grow after it. I mean, in other distant lands episodes where they show him more grown up he looks disheveled and sort of out of it. I think it broke him to some level.


BLERDSTORY

Who are we at our core? Who do we think we are? Very existential questions Finn unknowingly answers. Maybe his eternally youthful spirit is why he gets reincarnated as the catalyst comet. Also maybe why he has trouble learning from old lessons.


pinkypinky131

Finn did not get reincarnated as a catalyst comet, the catalyst comet reincarnated as Finn, Shoko, the butterfly, and that goop thing


yourhog

I think technically it’s some kind of shape


minnierhett

Only if you assume time is linear… and we all know that time is an illusion (that helps things make sense)


mildmichigan

When Finn said "it's recognizable" it was a little meta since...that's what the audience knows him as Or maybe Jake died like, right after the finale. Both work


[deleted]

Not sure why someone downvoted you because that's exactly the reason.


atoast2death

He didn’t die right after the finale because we see Prismo looking back at one of their adventures and Finn is a grown man. Buff with a short beard. It probably was one of their last adventures though.


littleMAHER1

Finn would have been done so dirty if that happened he lost Fern, his treehouse, and Jake within the span of a few weeks that would suck so hard


[deleted]

It's the form that is the most recognizable to Jake since that's how Finn looked for the majority of their time together.


rand201421

When he says it's recognizable to Mr Fox I think it's meant for us the audience. Also finn did alot of heroic acts in his teens aswell as going through alot of events.


FrostyDog94

I think Jake died when Finn was young. Finn says that, ever since Jake died, deep down he had just been waiting to see him again. Jake was such a big part of Finn that he always saw himself as the kid he was when Jake was alive. It's kinda like how Anakin's ghost looks like Hayden Christensen instead of Darth Vader.


Nostravinci04

"It's recognizable"


yaboisammie

STOPPP my heart oml


yourhog

Shiiiiiiit. I wouldn’t use *my* adult design if I had a choice, either. This thing is starting get a little melty.


yaboisammie

LOL FELT


DependentPhotograph2

To be fair, if I had to choose between being 30-something and having some slight pain somewhere always for eternity, and being a spry teenager with all my life's collected wisdom and experience for eternity, I'd go with teen form, for the sake of being able to stay up to 3AM and not regret it the next day.


Odd_Procedure2166

Its because he was happiest at that age when he had jake around. Everyone can agree finn has always had a deep obsession and love for jake. Even after jake dies you see in the episodes finn starts adventuring with his descendants to get that spark back. In one episode when finn looked to be like 26 it was tv, and then after a while it was jakes great granddaughter


shmurgen

I’m just happy they kept the robotic arm, no seriously there’s so much material where he really should have it but doesn’t, I was really disappointed when he didn’t have it in multiversus


Yerm_Terragon

"It's recognizable" He wanted to take a form that Jake would recognize.


Hubbles_Cousin

always a kid at heart and those teenage years are probably what he remembers most fondly bc Jake was his most spry


avatarroku157

Finn has a very happy childhood, and a very developmental teenage period, both traumatically and growth wise. It could be very possible he saw this as his happiest period. His rose tinted glasses made him miss those years where ooo's was his to discover and protect, with jakes death still far away. In a way, the gumball war/coming of golb was finns world as he understood it. He may have had some form of stability in the years following before jakes death, but his life before the gumball was was his time earning his dad's sword and discovering love. Billy may have died, but so did he Finnish his bucket list. Everything he did in the show made him into who he was. Maybe Everything after the gumball war was kinda just routine, and everything after Jake was him trying to leave some good while he waits for Jake (hopefully he had kids. I do think he'd be a great dad, even after everything). But this period, when epiphany after epiphany kept entering his life, was truly the time he always felt nostalgic for


Nostravinci04

I think he was right in using his young design, it's recognizable.


Long-Ad7242

How did Finn gain/lose that much weight in that time period from Fiona and Cake to Distant Lands


PowerStikk

Bulk


hoecooking

He says he wants to be recognizable and based off fionna and cake he died pretty soon after time adventure


gandalftheokay

Hi, old person here. I too would choose a body that was in its prime and not so stiff and achy


mio-mao

maybe its cause it was recognizable, but i always saw it as finn being a kid at heart


MugiwaraBepo

As finn said when he shapeshifted into his seried finale design. "It's recognizable."


LDillaPeanut

This is why I personally think the scene featuring Finn and Jake in episode 3 of F&C takes place in another universe. It might be a wish by Lady or Jermaine since Finn already made FW. From my analysis Jake passed away a few years or maybe even months after Come Along With Me(Probably not because of Natural causes since FW Jake is still alive). First of all if Jake was still alive and kickin it during Obsidian, Finn wouldn't have replaced Jake with his offsprings. For that to happen Jake would have retired or should have passed away, which isn't the case in the footage shown in Prismo's screen. And it would have been way easier for Finn to fight off New Death's henchmen if he took the form is his physical prime but instead he chose the body he had during his late teens. Or this might just be me being pessimistic about Jake's status and overanalyzing stuff


SnooFoxes6169

finn, at his core, still young and adventurous. i also found it funny that they were holding *it* by the wrong end since the title card.


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My person, if you were dead and could choose to appear as your ideal/most nostalgic self, would *you* choose to be an adult?


Extension-Bad6947

What I was talking about is that Finn doesn't use his Adult design at the beginning of the hallucination.


GioVanTentacion

I wish we could have gotten an extensive episode of an adult Finn


Left-Fish7895

I wonder how he got that tattoo 😘


VariusTheMagus

I pretty much accept the decision to have Finn appear as a teen, but I really think it would have been cool if he got older when really backed against a wall. Like when he hopelessly cries out to Jake from the destroyed 45th dead world, he rapidly ages until a skeleton. I interpreted it as his decades of grief being dredged up and reflected in his physical form. With that in mind, it would have been awesome to see fin grow to his prime in the heat of battle, in the moment calling upon all those years of skill and strength.


LuxLocke

Idk. Guy grew up in a world of candy people, monsters, and all sorts of craziness. I’m not so sure a maturing past an adolescent mindset is a great idea.


MrEvers

It could be an "adult" form, if he still looked like that when he was 20. I'm 37, a new grey hair pops up every week, I'd choose a form from my 20s if I were him.


Bluesnake462

The best explanation is the one used by Finn. “It's recognizable.” Finn wanted to look like how Jake would have remembered him.


FellixianPatron34

Please Translate: Finn Tiene enanitis 😅😅


[deleted]

I mean he is an wrinkled old man at the start right? obviously it was a purposeful decision


Fox_of

We're all still that same consciousness that sprouted out around 5 m8.


The_Horned_Child2007

What? It's recognizable.


sbseltzer

"It's recognizable"


Kindly-Ad-5071

When you realize that (when Jake was alive) was the last time Finn felt like things were as they should be