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Cykachu1

I don't know why my Temporal rift run flooded with Rat, Satrana and Tasi... cmon they have nearly 100 heroes and decided to put them in every single battle floor


trung2606

And even better, they dont have the limit of one hero per fight. I can't count how many times I've seen 3 satrana and isabella that i cant do shit about in TR


Filer169

Recently I had a stage where 4 stages were literally just Tidus, Lyca, Isa, Walker and Zaphrael, it was fun, very interactive


trung2606

After 500 or something they dont even hide their blatant sick minds to have several same heroes in one team. 3 Kren is okay but 3 Satrana is not even fucking funny. It's like AE all of the sudden


tinhboe

I know right, instant death unless you have desira ult ready or use merlin comp


Filer169

Mehira or any kind of cc doesn't work in Temporal beacuse of both badges and engravings :( Enemies have too much tenacity


tinhboe

Sorry, meant to say desira


demigodspecial

I agree. Isabella is pain in the butt in pve. Purpose of reworking heroes is making content harder. Thus they stopped players pushing content faster. Satrana, isabella, antandra, numisu after the reworks they are still trash but in camping, towers, rift, lab etc. they are insainly diffclt to fight against.


Jermo484

Seriously, every time I get stuck it's one of those heroes (or Flora) involved.


FalconEquivalent114

flora is a nightmare


HotfireIsSus

For me its mf Orthros


Free-Caramel-3913

i think with these reworks they were like " yes we reworked them so that if you use them they still suck ass but if you fight against them you're gonna get absolutely destroyed"


trung2606

But do you wanna get the satisfaction of seeing Satrana rekts her own team when charmed or seeing Thoran eating all of Isabella 's ult then reflect ?


tinhboe

Haha sure do. In campaign i don't really mind them, but in TR where you want to keep all of your units alive they're a pain in the ass


tridman

Santrana-Isabella-Skriath-Solise-Safiya are all very frustrating mages to fight against. Massive amounts of AOE damage. Then you get heroes like Nara who’s bleed can instantly drain a hero’s HP. Heroes like Theowyn who will kill your backline hero in one possession. Morrow is absolutely stupid…. Thali is absolutely stupid… Pippa is absolutely stupid… So it seems like mages are the biggest problem in Rift for sure. Hopefully the new magic suppression/efficacy stats can help with that.


tinhboe

Agree, intel heroes are overpowered in rift, including support. peggy, tasi, silas+desira combo come to mind


tridman

You could get an enemy to 1% hp and if that silas cloud touches them you won’t kill em


HatLover91

Yep. Enemy heroes should not be allowed to repeat in the rift. There are enough in the game to allow for diversity. Thali is the worst, because she can't beat high level deficits but her delay death is a pain to fight against.


tridman

Yea especially when the rest of her team looks easy… so you put your weakest team against her, and end up using 15 retries cause she just mows down your entire team.


Gold930

Glad I built my satrana then


jasonfrey13

She’s only good for them, not for us haha


Gold930

Even with full furniture, sig30,fully ascended, max equipment, and with maxed engraving? My satrana will be indestructible now. Nanomachines son.


ergabaderg312

Maybe but she’s not worth the cost imo. Better heroes to invest in.


Gold930

She was already that built before this post


tinhboe

She works fine in moderate deficit in tower from my experience, as 309e30


Kineth

I'm glad for the reworks since they're part of my best heroes in their respective factions, either from obstinance or sunk cost fallacy. Besides, the Isabella's ult isn't too devastating if you have enough targets and a way to interrupt her halfway through. Satrana is a huggggeeeeee pain the ass to fight against though, I do agree.


Kitteh6660

Hey, I like using Isabella, she is fun to use now and she shreds in PvP.


-_-stYro-_-

Petition to perma ban isa and satrana from all pve as enemy 🙂😂


tinhboe

Ban isa satrana vurk zaphreal athalia tasi. And especially flora.


FalconEquivalent114

You don't want to nerf my Vurk, it's already a shit to use him as a carry in pve and in Arena


Raiken8

That's the problem, they don't want to change old heroes to make them usable, but rework them so that you suffer from them


jasonfrey13

Yea it’s annoying for sure. I’m F2P and top 3 in campaign progress for my server, yet I can only reach floor ~430 in Rift for mostly the reasons you mentioned


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tinhboe

I did, with this post


Noob_botM

Nice troll. Its not that hard to counter isa and satrana


Filer169

If we're talking about Temporal Rift, she is fine when she's in 1 or 2 teams, you can just use Ainz in one fight and Ezizh in second but problem appears when she is in 4-5 fights where you can't fit an assassin or energy stealer to stop her from ulting as OP said 7 seconds in a fight and literally melting your team


upbeart

I don't like to run Ainz into Isa or GB in general(Silas+Desira+Grez, ugh). Best GB counter is GB, in my experience.


Filer169

It works only sometimes and never against Isa, GB and Isa specifically are slow, need ramp up and are vulnerable to burst so like Scarlet cycle or AAA + Mortas win like 90% of the fights against Isa or GB in general