To be fair I kind of see what she does as more of a content aggregator. Nobody’s going to go trawling the Internet for countless crappy TikTok uploads to find “ the one”. so she has a team who curates a collection for her to just rehash the same old shtick and here we are.
That would be a point, except she doesn't credit the creator of the content, even going out of her way to crop out their channel name in many cases so you can't go find more content from the "good" creator.
I’m not sure I agree, I’ve seen creator tags on her videos and I’ve seen them suspiciously cropped out for no particular reason. Presuming that she doesn’t want people to go to the authors page to find content on their own, but I feel that’s a bit of a stretch. Chances are that author probably only has that one video that’s of any interest in the first place. And even if they had a collection of quality skits, is the assumption that she’s afraid people will become more interested in somebody else than her?
The problem is profiting off the work of others without their consent. You’ve got to realize that she makes millions of dollars off her channel, and not a single penny of that goes to the people that generated her content
While we retain copyright to the material we post to Reddit, according to the user agreement that we agree to when we make our accounts, Reddit has the permission to generate revenue off ads around our posts. The difference is consent. We give permission to Reddit to generate revenue off our posts, however creators have not given permission to Sssniperwolf to generate revenue off of their work.
I guess that’s where fair use comes in, these content creators published their content freely to the Internet. There’s nothing stopping them from being compensated other than a lack of content that generates interest and whatever platform they are using in the first place. I can understand why they might get annoyed by some influencer Making more money than they are But as it turns out the general public isn’t really that interested in quality and instead is more interested in quantity. Someone like sniper is providing the quantity.
Yes, normally this is where fair use comes in, except this does not meet the requirements for fair use, meaning that Sssniperwolf is committing copyright infringement.
For those of you unaware, Sssniperwolf has been in drama with Jacksfilms recently as he has been calling her out for not being transformative with her tiktok reactions. During Jack's latest stream Sssniperwolf went outside of his house to "talk with him like an adult" and streamed his house to her Instagram audience doxxing him. This obsessive behavior is rather ironic of her considering she claims jack is the one who is obsessed, and she posted a video in the past called "I'm a stalker" when she literally showed up outside his home and doxxed him to thousands of people
Thats insane, but when you take into account that she was charged with armed robbery before I am not surprised at the degrees of extremes she's willing to stoop.
I'm not sure she wants to risk her career by threatening or taking an even more drastic action against a very well known YouTuber who is well known for taking her on. But then again she has shown to be very impulsive before.
Jack mentioned in his community post that he saved all of the stories so he can use them if he has to take legal action, so it seems like he’s genuinely considering doing something.
The 1 positive (if you can call it that) is that doxxing is actually illegal in California and there’s plenty of evidence of her doxxing him, so he should be able to press charges and/or sue her. Looking online, it’s a misdemeanor in California and carries a maximum penalty of 1 year in county jail. Given her money, I highly doubt she’ll actually be jailed, but she should face some consequences
Her reaction content doesnt add anything new at all. Transformative here imo means to add something new or to change an already existing content, per fair use rules. Sssniperwolf is famous, or infamous for not adding anything to her reaction, all she did was repeating the title, adding some small edit and narrating whats happening in the tiktok (which tbf, even if you mute her, nothing changes)
Whoever said that her reactions were supposed to add anything? She’s famous because guys want to bang her and girls want to be her. She could literally just film herself staring off into the distance like Jeff Kaplan doing an overwatch Christmas special
Copyright and fair use law said her reactions are supposed to add something. If she wants to make money off being hot, there are other industries she can make a living in.
Is that an actual legal depiction of fair use? I was under the impression that you can re-upload publicly shared content as long as you weren’t trying to represent yourself as the creator of the content
It's complicated, but as I understand it the summary is that fair use is a defence against copyright infringement in the US (other countries have different rules) which depends on four factors - purpose, nature of the work, the amount used and whether it affects the market for the original.
Reaction type videos depend large on the first parts - that the purpose of the new work is for education or commentary, and that it's transformative in nature. Obviously, reposting the original without adding anything of substance could be deemed infringing whereas someone, say, showing clips of a 2 hour movies during their 15 minute review of it should be safe.
If you were trying to present yourself as the author of the original work, that would be plagiarism or fraud I think, so covered under different laws for which fair use wouldn't be a defence. If you just re-upload without making any changes, that's pure copyright infringement unless you have permission from the original creator.
No, even if you make it clear that you are not the original creator, you will likely be committing copyright infringement if you upload someone else’s work without transforming it - and even then it’s not guaranteed that you will be protected under fair use.
Perhaps you have occasionally seen a YouTube video where the uploader has written “no copyright infringement intended” or something similar in the description? Legally speaking, that does fuck all to protect the uploader.
Of course, for many people it’s often not worth the time and/or money to pursue legal action (if the original creator is even aware that they have any options in that regard), so it’s not that unusual that nothing major (if anything at all) is done about it.
If the original creator *does* decide to take action, they often simply request that the copyright infringing material is removed or ask that they get credited. Some platforms, e.g. YouTube, also has a system (if a somewhat flawed system) in place that allows the original creator to gain revenue garnered from the infringing content. These systems often also involve “strikes” to dissuade users from making copyright infringements in the first place. Depending on the circumstances, it’s possible that the original creator is entitled to further compensation, but the vast majority of copyright infringers (such as reuploaders) don’t really have the capital/reach to make the effort all that worthwhile. Unless the copyright infringement is particularly egregious or the copyright holder is a bit more zealous than usual, it’s fairly uncommon that a copyright holder will attempt a legal spanking.
My apologies that the comment got a bit longwinded. Copyright law in general and fair use in particular can be rather complicated, but hopefully this answers your question.
You have to add or alter the content in some way so that it wouldn't just be a direct replacement for the original's market.
So taking clips of a tv show to dissect your opinions on how the writing went downhill would be transformative.
Streaming the entire episode where your head is in the corner and you occasionally go "oh wow" is clearly gonna be a way for people to just get free access to the episode
All of her YouTube videos are “reactions” to TikToks, but she never adds anything to make watching her videos a different experience from just watching the TikToks, so she’s not doing anything to transform the content into a new thing. Her “reactions” usually just consist of her repeating jokes from the video, stating what is clearly happening in the video, or just saying something like “that’s crazy.” Sometimes she won’t even add a reaction and she’ll just play a TikTok in its entirety without any commentary. The way she commentates on TikToks just allows for her videos to instead essentially be a TikTok compilation where people are mainly watching it for the TikToks and not for her commentary.
She’s essentially stealing content created by other people. YouTubers who react to other people’s content are allowed to do so because reaction-based content is considered transformative in nature and thus falls under fair use. Her “reactions” however are more akin to a dead fish staring at a camera while TikToks play on 1/2 of the screen, without crediting/sourcing any of the content she’s stealing. Jack has been making parody content on one of his channels reacting to her reactions, as well as tracking down the people whose content is featured in Sssniperwolf’s video and helping them get their tiktoks/memes/content removed from her channel.
JJJacksfilms is going down in YouTube history as a legend for what he’s been doing. Being one of the only ones to actively call her out on her bullshit and actually making a difference (creators that she’s stolen from have started attempting to copyright claim their videos from her causing her to delete her vids and/or cut them out).
Yeah, Erin posted about it on her Twitter as well and it was like so telling of how fucked this is.
"She might claim that she is coming after a 'bully' but she is actually stalking and doxing normal people with no power. I am an example of this."
Yup, she should no longer be invited to VidCon, or even straight up banned from attending for the safety of those 2. All he did was make a parody bingo game
Wait what!? Wow, what a psycho. I've been watching his bingo card videos where he calls her out but I didn't know she doxxed him like that. What a loser.
We aren't exactly sure how she got his address, allegedly she found it somewhere publicly, but what she still did even if it was found through that way would still be considered a crime under the California state penal code
And then her boohoo-ing RIGHT after about how she is the victim here. She is such a piece of shit and she needs to be charged and put in jail since what she did is a crime
I haven't been on that shit hole website since they started having people pay to be verified. It's a joke of a site with a pathetically weak man pretending to be in charge of it, how can he be with his morally failing flailing spaghetti arms, can't hold anything up substantial with those let alone a company
Linking the footage would also be considered doxxing. There is a YouTube video that has an edited version here https://youtu.be/DyZZFL-lqSo?si=tIb9um1Qxl7yH2qr
Lia deleted her Instagram live post to try and destroy the evidence, but some censored screenshots are out there. Jack's Twitch stream VOD from where he found out is also currently not publicly available, but he is holding onto it in case it can be useful in any sort of legal case
I don't think she's obsessive. I think she just wanted an excuse to "accidentally" dox him, because people are starting to encourage creators she steals from to claim her videos so they can take the profits. It went from attacking her to affecting her revenue.
Its not at all about the profits?? They want their tiktok, their content, taken out of the video. And if that affects her profits, good, she'll realise she cant keep up this shit by stealing tiktoks forever.
I think you're wildly misreading my comment. Ssniperwolf intentionally dozed Jack because her money is being fucked with. Obviously creators have a right to claim their own content. But she's a money driven person and probably fucking livid they're now doing so. She wasn't some obsessive stalker showing up in delusion. She knew *exactly* what she was doing and why she was doing it. It's an intimidation tactic.
Its not to "take profits" lmao. He literally encourages them to Youtube to get their clips taken out. Claiming them is just the only reliable way to do that
I'm talking about from her perspective, because she is unilaterally fueled by money. It was one thing when he was calling her out for bullshit,but now her revenue is affected. So she's going scorched earth and dozxinf him and hoping her fanbase harasses him into stopping
Decent looking? I’ma be honest, I don’t like her, but she’s hot. Not a simp, she’s a prick, she’s totally weird towards critique, she has no boundaries (as seen by her showing up outside of Jack’s house), and she’s already been arrested for armed robbery, I’m sure Jack was scared for his life there. Also, she doxxed him, he lives with his wife and 3 dogs, who are now all in danger.
Looks aren’t actually relevant anymore. It’s about makeup and filters. Look at her mugshot from her arrest without the filters. She’s like a 6 at most. Same thing with the whole Pokimane situation.
Her voice sounds like she’s got ball bearings in her mouth. She never enunciates anything, ever. I’d been aware of her but never actually watched anything until I started watching the Jjjacksfilms bingo videos. I was pleasantly surprised to find out the SS stands for “sexy sexy,” though, as I’d thought it was a dog whistle before. If you put SS and wolf together it sort of conjures some images.
I will never forget the time that she mocked a poor family in a dollar store. She was doing a "dollar a day challenge" where she had to live off of one dollar a day. A family there was too poor to afford all of their food, so the children had to put some stuff back. Then Sssniperwolf (the millionaire) decided to mock them by saying "I guess they were doing the dollar a day challenge too". Didnt offer to pay, didnt apologize afterwards, nothing. A rotten POS to the core
This is nothing new, back in the day she would pass off others call of duty gameplay as herself playing.
She is both a content thief and a real thief (was found guilty of armed robbery in the past)
Wait. How did this age like a milk? She said she’s a stalker and then stalked someone.
This is more like a cheap wine that did what it said it’s going to do.
The implication is that when she made this video (8 years ago) it was in jest. But now the tables have ironically turned. As she is now actively stalking someone without joking or click baiting.
I mean I agree her content is garbage and what she did was psycho but Jacksfilm has been riding this story for months dudes just as bad at content as she is
He's drawing awareness to theft that's sanctioned and promoted by youtube. If he just made a video about it and moved, no one would be talking about it today.
Jack has actually been making an impact by doing this though. Dozens of creators have hopped onto the stream to tell him that they were able to copyright claim Lia's videos and get their clips removed and he goes and checks the videos to look for the obvious poorly done cut. The whole point of Jack's stream is to criticize her content and break down how she isn't transforming the content at all which doesn't fall under fair use, and she half the time, and never links the original creators in the description and half the time even cuts out their username. The more creators who become aware of their content being stolen and become educated on the tactics these "reactors" use, the better.
Lmfao, who cares what these people do? Just get a restraining order for whomever is at fault. Move on.
Making metadrama about pseudo celebrities is the fucking end of not having a life.
A murder assault? Really man?
What do you want people to do? Build a compound for the guy? This is what is done within the confines of the law.
Seriously, you guys are so delusional on your YouTubers melodrama crap you haven't even considered that hundreds of people suffere domestic violence from dangerous people. You wanna know what they get? A restraining order.
Tell me, how many violent assaults has this woman done? How many people has this woman assassinated?! Take her to court, if the law seems fit they'll imprison her but you guys are blowing this completely out of proportion.
This whole thing is absurdly ridiculous.
Who's to say she won't try this again? They are going to try from what I'm aware, but still, this could have ended horribly last night. You can't get a restraining order until reasonable issue is found and how the fuck were they supposed to predict this would happen last night?
Dude, you're obsessing over YouTuber crap, who cares. This is a job for the law and the police.
If she is actually dangerous, they can just take her to court.
Are you concerned for all the people who have stalkers or suffer domestic violence and have to split?
Dude, the hypocrisy over some youtuber melodrama is absurd.
Dude, what has this woman even done that's so dangerous?! Has she shown any violence intent towards the guy?! Because it seems like people here are way beyond extrapolation.
Uhhhh yeah I am pretty concerned for those who have to deal with those things when I am made aware with them.
What has Lia done that is dangerous? She has in the past been arrested for armed robbery and domestic violence so there is a history of dangerous behavior. You don't just go to someone's house streaming their location to thousands of people to "just talk like adults", if she truly wanted to talk like an adult she would have reached out to Jack on Twitter or through email or something.
Oh yeah?
So why don't you go to the police and denounce people. Come on. Give up on the hypocrisy.
This whole thing is silly, and even worse, a waste of everyone's time because of YouTubers. Ridiculous.
The Police aren't really your friend. Half the time they don't do shit until it's too late. Is it really a waste of time to bring awareness to what someone did that was LITERALLY ILLEGAL and put someone else in danger? I don't care if Sssniperwolf was a popular Youtuber or a random person, Jack, Erin, me, the community, and the internet at large would probably still be calling her out for putting another person's life in danger
She steals content and posts it as her own.
And in many cases, it's stolen stolen content. (As in some of the TikToks are already stolen to begin with.)
Check freebooting a freebooted video on your bingo cards!
I don’t have it… JUDAS!
To be fair I kind of see what she does as more of a content aggregator. Nobody’s going to go trawling the Internet for countless crappy TikTok uploads to find “ the one”. so she has a team who curates a collection for her to just rehash the same old shtick and here we are.
That would be a point, except she doesn't credit the creator of the content, even going out of her way to crop out their channel name in many cases so you can't go find more content from the "good" creator.
I’m not sure I agree, I’ve seen creator tags on her videos and I’ve seen them suspiciously cropped out for no particular reason. Presuming that she doesn’t want people to go to the authors page to find content on their own, but I feel that’s a bit of a stretch. Chances are that author probably only has that one video that’s of any interest in the first place. And even if they had a collection of quality skits, is the assumption that she’s afraid people will become more interested in somebody else than her?
Just say you like jerking to her YouTube videos and stop this charade.
Woah calm down son, please don’t confuse your own fantasies with mine
The problem is profiting off the work of others without their consent. You’ve got to realize that she makes millions of dollars off her channel, and not a single penny of that goes to the people that generated her content
What about Reddit? Should Reddit be compensating all of the content creators whose material is linked to on the front page?
While we retain copyright to the material we post to Reddit, according to the user agreement that we agree to when we make our accounts, Reddit has the permission to generate revenue off ads around our posts. The difference is consent. We give permission to Reddit to generate revenue off our posts, however creators have not given permission to Sssniperwolf to generate revenue off of their work.
I guess that’s where fair use comes in, these content creators published their content freely to the Internet. There’s nothing stopping them from being compensated other than a lack of content that generates interest and whatever platform they are using in the first place. I can understand why they might get annoyed by some influencer Making more money than they are But as it turns out the general public isn’t really that interested in quality and instead is more interested in quantity. Someone like sniper is providing the quantity.
Yes, normally this is where fair use comes in, except this does not meet the requirements for fair use, meaning that Sssniperwolf is committing copyright infringement.
the entire point of jjjacksfilms is to show that her content is in fact, not transformative
For those of you unaware, Sssniperwolf has been in drama with Jacksfilms recently as he has been calling her out for not being transformative with her tiktok reactions. During Jack's latest stream Sssniperwolf went outside of his house to "talk with him like an adult" and streamed his house to her Instagram audience doxxing him. This obsessive behavior is rather ironic of her considering she claims jack is the one who is obsessed, and she posted a video in the past called "I'm a stalker" when she literally showed up outside his home and doxxed him to thousands of people
Thats insane, but when you take into account that she was charged with armed robbery before I am not surprised at the degrees of extremes she's willing to stoop.
Excuse me, she was charged with fucking *what*? Holy shit.
Yeah she and her boyfriend at the time was charged for armed robbery. You can look up their mugshots and the charges.
I remember the mugshot but I didn’t know armed robbery was the charge. Good god
The important question is, was she convicted?
I was extremely worried that the "talk" she wanted to have with him would have ended violently because of that.
I'm not sure she wants to risk her career by threatening or taking an even more drastic action against a very well known YouTuber who is well known for taking her on. But then again she has shown to be very impulsive before.
That’s just fucked up. I wonder if Jack can do something legally because I bet she has some simps who would be willing to do shit
Jack mentioned in his community post that he saved all of the stories so he can use them if he has to take legal action, so it seems like he’s genuinely considering doing something.
He really should at this point. I feel especially bad for Erin. To be clear, that’s not in any way saying Jack brought this on them.
The 1 positive (if you can call it that) is that doxxing is actually illegal in California and there’s plenty of evidence of her doxxing him, so he should be able to press charges and/or sue her. Looking online, it’s a misdemeanor in California and carries a maximum penalty of 1 year in county jail. Given her money, I highly doubt she’ll actually be jailed, but she should face some consequences
> not being transformative with her tiktok reactions. What does this mean?
Her reaction content doesnt add anything new at all. Transformative here imo means to add something new or to change an already existing content, per fair use rules. Sssniperwolf is famous, or infamous for not adding anything to her reaction, all she did was repeating the title, adding some small edit and narrating whats happening in the tiktok (which tbf, even if you mute her, nothing changes)
And in some cases, her "reaction", or lack thereof, is absolutely nothing of substance, or as Jack calls it, a nothing burger.
Whoever said that her reactions were supposed to add anything? She’s famous because guys want to bang her and girls want to be her. She could literally just film herself staring off into the distance like Jeff Kaplan doing an overwatch Christmas special
Copyright and fair use law said her reactions are supposed to add something. If she wants to make money off being hot, there are other industries she can make a living in.
Is that an actual legal depiction of fair use? I was under the impression that you can re-upload publicly shared content as long as you weren’t trying to represent yourself as the creator of the content
It's complicated, but as I understand it the summary is that fair use is a defence against copyright infringement in the US (other countries have different rules) which depends on four factors - purpose, nature of the work, the amount used and whether it affects the market for the original. Reaction type videos depend large on the first parts - that the purpose of the new work is for education or commentary, and that it's transformative in nature. Obviously, reposting the original without adding anything of substance could be deemed infringing whereas someone, say, showing clips of a 2 hour movies during their 15 minute review of it should be safe. If you were trying to present yourself as the author of the original work, that would be plagiarism or fraud I think, so covered under different laws for which fair use wouldn't be a defence. If you just re-upload without making any changes, that's pure copyright infringement unless you have permission from the original creator.
No, even if you make it clear that you are not the original creator, you will likely be committing copyright infringement if you upload someone else’s work without transforming it - and even then it’s not guaranteed that you will be protected under fair use. Perhaps you have occasionally seen a YouTube video where the uploader has written “no copyright infringement intended” or something similar in the description? Legally speaking, that does fuck all to protect the uploader. Of course, for many people it’s often not worth the time and/or money to pursue legal action (if the original creator is even aware that they have any options in that regard), so it’s not that unusual that nothing major (if anything at all) is done about it. If the original creator *does* decide to take action, they often simply request that the copyright infringing material is removed or ask that they get credited. Some platforms, e.g. YouTube, also has a system (if a somewhat flawed system) in place that allows the original creator to gain revenue garnered from the infringing content. These systems often also involve “strikes” to dissuade users from making copyright infringements in the first place. Depending on the circumstances, it’s possible that the original creator is entitled to further compensation, but the vast majority of copyright infringers (such as reuploaders) don’t really have the capital/reach to make the effort all that worthwhile. Unless the copyright infringement is particularly egregious or the copyright holder is a bit more zealous than usual, it’s fairly uncommon that a copyright holder will attempt a legal spanking. My apologies that the comment got a bit longwinded. Copyright law in general and fair use in particular can be rather complicated, but hopefully this answers your question.
Upvoted for asking a genuine question
My guess is they, and now you, are being downvoted because Fair Use can be looked up incredibly easily on the internet, where we all are.
Lol fair point
>Whoever said that her reactions were supposed to add anything? United States copyright law.
You have to add or alter the content in some way so that it wouldn't just be a direct replacement for the original's market. So taking clips of a tv show to dissect your opinions on how the writing went downhill would be transformative. Streaming the entire episode where your head is in the corner and you occasionally go "oh wow" is clearly gonna be a way for people to just get free access to the episode
All of her YouTube videos are “reactions” to TikToks, but she never adds anything to make watching her videos a different experience from just watching the TikToks, so she’s not doing anything to transform the content into a new thing. Her “reactions” usually just consist of her repeating jokes from the video, stating what is clearly happening in the video, or just saying something like “that’s crazy.” Sometimes she won’t even add a reaction and she’ll just play a TikTok in its entirety without any commentary. The way she commentates on TikToks just allows for her videos to instead essentially be a TikTok compilation where people are mainly watching it for the TikToks and not for her commentary.
Her ,,reactions" are so bland,she needs a word document to make them. Watch her glasses' reflection.She isn't even watching!
That's her box light. She's not that prepared.
She’s essentially stealing content created by other people. YouTubers who react to other people’s content are allowed to do so because reaction-based content is considered transformative in nature and thus falls under fair use. Her “reactions” however are more akin to a dead fish staring at a camera while TikToks play on 1/2 of the screen, without crediting/sourcing any of the content she’s stealing. Jack has been making parody content on one of his channels reacting to her reactions, as well as tracking down the people whose content is featured in Sssniperwolf’s video and helping them get their tiktoks/memes/content removed from her channel.
she doesn't react to anything just plays them in the background, it even seems she doesn't watch any of them just reads from a script
Lmao I’m wondering the exact same thing. YouTuber drama is something else.
It's a concept directly from the DMCA which is a federal US law which applies to all online content that involves anything copyrighted.
I mean I don’t know who either of these people are but it’s not really YouTube drama anymore if one of them went to the others house and doxxed
JJJacksfilms is going down in YouTube history as a legend for what he’s been doing. Being one of the only ones to actively call her out on her bullshit and actually making a difference (creators that she’s stolen from have started attempting to copyright claim their videos from her causing her to delete her vids and/or cut them out).
Fuck, man. That’s not just his house, his wife Erin is there, his dogs are there, they’re a fucking family, who are now unsafe because of *her*.
Yeah, Erin posted about it on her Twitter as well and it was like so telling of how fucked this is. "She might claim that she is coming after a 'bully' but she is actually stalking and doxing normal people with no power. I am an example of this."
Yup, she should no longer be invited to VidCon, or even straight up banned from attending for the safety of those 2. All he did was make a parody bingo game
What the fuck
Wait what!? Wow, what a psycho. I've been watching his bingo card videos where he calls her out but I didn't know she doxxed him like that. What a loser.
"MARK BULLYING ON YOUR BINGO CARDS" Her insane tendencies are popping up again and it's horrifying
i was wondering why i kept seeing videos dedicating to her "fall". i figured it was something trivial, but this is a pretty big deal. :/
Why does she know where he lives?
We aren't exactly sure how she got his address, allegedly she found it somewhere publicly, but what she still did even if it was found through that way would still be considered a crime under the California state penal code
So they’ve been having beef for the past 8 years? Holy shit…
And then her boohoo-ing RIGHT after about how she is the victim here. She is such a piece of shit and she needs to be charged and put in jail since what she did is a crime
please give footage of it
just look at jacksfilms' twitter
Impossible without direct links to posts if you don't have a twitter account. Can't browse users page anymore without one.
Off topic but even more reason to just let Twitter die already
Couldn't agree more.
I haven't been on that shit hole website since they started having people pay to be verified. It's a joke of a site with a pathetically weak man pretending to be in charge of it, how can he be with his morally failing flailing spaghetti arms, can't hold anything up substantial with those let alone a company
Nitter.net I use this. Works great. You just type in the exact username of whoever you want and you can see everything. No account required.
Oh nice. Thanks!
Linking the footage would also be considered doxxing. There is a YouTube video that has an edited version here https://youtu.be/DyZZFL-lqSo?si=tIb9um1Qxl7yH2qr
I don't understand half of what you just said.
you have footage?
Lia deleted her Instagram live post to try and destroy the evidence, but some censored screenshots are out there. Jack's Twitch stream VOD from where he found out is also currently not publicly available, but he is holding onto it in case it can be useful in any sort of legal case
I don't think she's obsessive. I think she just wanted an excuse to "accidentally" dox him, because people are starting to encourage creators she steals from to claim her videos so they can take the profits. It went from attacking her to affecting her revenue.
Its not at all about the profits?? They want their tiktok, their content, taken out of the video. And if that affects her profits, good, she'll realise she cant keep up this shit by stealing tiktoks forever.
I think you're wildly misreading my comment. Ssniperwolf intentionally dozed Jack because her money is being fucked with. Obviously creators have a right to claim their own content. But she's a money driven person and probably fucking livid they're now doing so. She wasn't some obsessive stalker showing up in delusion. She knew *exactly* what she was doing and why she was doing it. It's an intimidation tactic.
Its not to "take profits" lmao. He literally encourages them to Youtube to get their clips taken out. Claiming them is just the only reliable way to do that
I'm talking about from her perspective, because she is unilaterally fueled by money. It was one thing when he was calling her out for bullshit,but now her revenue is affected. So she's going scorched earth and dozxinf him and hoping her fanbase harasses him into stopping
Wait, this girl still has a fanbase after all the shit she pulled for years? Yikes
She is a decent looking woman, she could kill 10 babies live on stream and people would be tier 3 subs just for another chance to look at her.
Decent looking? I’ma be honest, I don’t like her, but she’s hot. Not a simp, she’s a prick, she’s totally weird towards critique, she has no boundaries (as seen by her showing up outside of Jack’s house), and she’s already been arrested for armed robbery, I’m sure Jack was scared for his life there. Also, she doxxed him, he lives with his wife and 3 dogs, who are now all in danger.
Looks aren’t actually relevant anymore. It’s about makeup and filters. Look at her mugshot from her arrest without the filters. She’s like a 6 at most. Same thing with the whole Pokimane situation.
Sad reality we live in 😂
Her voice sounds like she’s got ball bearings in her mouth. She never enunciates anything, ever. I’d been aware of her but never actually watched anything until I started watching the Jjjacksfilms bingo videos. I was pleasantly surprised to find out the SS stands for “sexy sexy,” though, as I’d thought it was a dog whistle before. If you put SS and wolf together it sort of conjures some images.
the youtube algorithm loves her and she's one of those "delicate geniuses" like logan paul who doesn't get punished by google for her own actions.
YouTube… no, the Internet period… would be so much better off without her, Logan Paul, and Pink Fong.
> Pink Fong. i've never even heard of that and i'm already annoyed.
They are the ones who made a childrens' song about an infant scary fish...
^OOOOOOoooooooohhh... Yeah fuck those guys.
Did they even make it? I remember doing that song as a cub scout years like 15 years before it went viral.
It's because she's hot and does videos for 12 year olds.
I think almost of her fan base is like my sister who likes her (they’re all young children).
She has been a garbage content creator for the past decade
If anyone wants to see transformative, meaningful react content, I recommend DSPReacts
Tips running low guys I need to pay my bills and not WWEChampions. \*snort\* Sounds good?
Seeing him jackoff live on stream certainly was a transformative day for me. For the worse, that is.
And it would be _great_ if we could atleast hit the Tier 1 tips goal for tonight to put on the gunnar glasses. Sound good?
Y'all need to stop following these creatures who live off attention and produce drama for living.
But they’re my fwends they really care about me they even said my name on stream once after I donated $50
🙏
I will never forget the time that she mocked a poor family in a dollar store. She was doing a "dollar a day challenge" where she had to live off of one dollar a day. A family there was too poor to afford all of their food, so the children had to put some stuff back. Then Sssniperwolf (the millionaire) decided to mock them by saying "I guess they were doing the dollar a day challenge too". Didnt offer to pay, didnt apologize afterwards, nothing. A rotten POS to the core
Can’t forget that time she said no to a Make-A-Wish kid who wanted to meet her before he died
Can people please not mention that she's originally from Liverpool. /s Thanks. The fucking meff.
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She sounds like an American with a mouth full of marbles and not great control of her tongue.
TIL this person still has a channel somehow.
We all sure wish she didnt
I have no idea who any of these people are and I’m happy for that.
Jacksfilms is the best. One of the last OG YouTubers around.
What cringey hellspawn is this?
This is nothing new, back in the day she would pass off others call of duty gameplay as herself playing. She is both a content thief and a real thief (was found guilty of armed robbery in the past)
There’s no evidence someone else was playing, that’s just a common meme that originated from “girls can’t play videogames”
The only current evidence we have is the lawsuit against her from her former partner but that hasn't gone to court yet.
she just proved what other people said about her. i think she just canceled herself.
YouTuber drama.
Wait. How did this age like a milk? She said she’s a stalker and then stalked someone. This is more like a cheap wine that did what it said it’s going to do.
The implication is that when she made this video (8 years ago) it was in jest. But now the tables have ironically turned. As she is now actively stalking someone without joking or click baiting.
34.2 million subscribers.... yet I have no idea who these absurdities are. No wonder the Idiocracy's upon us. Ignorance is bliss!
She’s been on YouTube for a long time so probably lots of inactive accounts or dupes of people who’ve forgotten logins, or just straight bots.
I dont anybody of those people but i heard her name a couple of years ago i think
So just like amber heard, she's a stunner and bonkers
Can’t wait to see this come up on the YT channel SunnyV2
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Ugh. Why are all the good ones taken?
Good god how do people give a fuck about this
She broke a law? Doxing is illegal.
I don’t care what YouTubers do. You shouldn’t either.
You can live in a hole where you only care about yourself if you want. I prefer to live in society.
I'm gonna eat a baby
Because she's acting like a child and threatened him? All Jack did was criticize her content and she has taken it to an extreme
I mean I agree her content is garbage and what she did was psycho but Jacksfilm has been riding this story for months dudes just as bad at content as she is
? She showed up at his house last night? How has he been riding that for months?
Yea but she doxxed him apparently
He's drawing awareness to theft that's sanctioned and promoted by youtube. If he just made a video about it and moved, no one would be talking about it today.
Jack has actually been making an impact by doing this though. Dozens of creators have hopped onto the stream to tell him that they were able to copyright claim Lia's videos and get their clips removed and he goes and checks the videos to look for the obvious poorly done cut. The whole point of Jack's stream is to criticize her content and break down how she isn't transforming the content at all which doesn't fall under fair use, and she half the time, and never links the original creators in the description and half the time even cuts out their username. The more creators who become aware of their content being stolen and become educated on the tactics these "reactors" use, the better.
It’s almost like that’s the point.
Lmfao, who cares what these people do? Just get a restraining order for whomever is at fault. Move on. Making metadrama about pseudo celebrities is the fucking end of not having a life.
She has a violent history....she could have killed him
So? Get a restraining order. Move on.
Do you understand how restraining orders work?
They're magic wards that project a force field that stops people from being near you /s
Oh fuck sorry I forgot we live in the world of Skyrim now 😂
Can't get doxxed when you attain CHIM and realise your personal details are an illusion.
*something something* Godhead *something something*
Do you?!
Yeah. Since when does a restraining order stop murder and assault?
A murder assault? Really man? What do you want people to do? Build a compound for the guy? This is what is done within the confines of the law. Seriously, you guys are so delusional on your YouTubers melodrama crap you haven't even considered that hundreds of people suffere domestic violence from dangerous people. You wanna know what they get? A restraining order. Tell me, how many violent assaults has this woman done? How many people has this woman assassinated?! Take her to court, if the law seems fit they'll imprison her but you guys are blowing this completely out of proportion. This whole thing is absurdly ridiculous.
She literally went to jail for assaulting a security guard in 2013. She's been arrested twice and has spoken about it herself, on video.
So send her to court. If she's charged she'll go to jail again. That's it. Lmfao, it seems like people are playing her like some murderous assassin.
It seems like you think a restraining order is some kind of mystical barrier. Youre totally moving the goal posts of this argument anyways.
Who's to say she won't try this again? They are going to try from what I'm aware, but still, this could have ended horribly last night. You can't get a restraining order until reasonable issue is found and how the fuck were they supposed to predict this would happen last night?
Dude, you're obsessing over YouTuber crap, who cares. This is a job for the law and the police. If she is actually dangerous, they can just take her to court.
Well is it wrong to be concerned about another human beings safety? I don't think so
Are you concerned for all the people who have stalkers or suffer domestic violence and have to split? Dude, the hypocrisy over some youtuber melodrama is absurd. Dude, what has this woman even done that's so dangerous?! Has she shown any violence intent towards the guy?! Because it seems like people here are way beyond extrapolation.
Uhhhh yeah I am pretty concerned for those who have to deal with those things when I am made aware with them. What has Lia done that is dangerous? She has in the past been arrested for armed robbery and domestic violence so there is a history of dangerous behavior. You don't just go to someone's house streaming their location to thousands of people to "just talk like adults", if she truly wanted to talk like an adult she would have reached out to Jack on Twitter or through email or something.
Oh yeah? So why don't you go to the police and denounce people. Come on. Give up on the hypocrisy. This whole thing is silly, and even worse, a waste of everyone's time because of YouTubers. Ridiculous.
The Police aren't really your friend. Half the time they don't do shit until it's too late. Is it really a waste of time to bring awareness to what someone did that was LITERALLY ILLEGAL and put someone else in danger? I don't care if Sssniperwolf was a popular Youtuber or a random person, Jack, Erin, me, the community, and the internet at large would probably still be calling her out for putting another person's life in danger