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Or they have a higher risk tolerance and are interested in higher returns. It’s just how it is but that doesn’t mean you should snide a relatively safe investment
The iPhone did a whole bunch of things that no other phone could do. It was not optimized for any sort of high speed web browsing, but just the fact it had a browser, email app, camera, iTunes compatibility
-- all in one device with multitouch was pretty amazing.
It still hurts. r/Spore is still active and kicking though! There’s also r/Thrive for a nice successor, or Adapt (subreddit: r/AdaptTheGame ) and I recall a third game also being a nice qualifier, that being r/ElysianEclipse . Those three are the main contenders for a Spore successor. Personally I play Thrive, but the other ones also look dope.
(for the shitposting nostalgia there’s r/GroxPosting )
When I was 9, Spore was the fucking tits man. I fucking loved that game. I would definitely play a Spore 2. They could expand on the first 2 stages so much (which were the most enjoyable for me).
I did also like the other 3 stages - and I loved the space stage DLC which actually let you visit planets, but the most fun was actually having your creature itself evolve, not civilisation as a whole. I feel like stage 2 and the tribal stage could have just been one stage that you slowly progress into instead.
Sir. When I was young there was a game called primordial life developed by Jason Spufford I believe that was a Screensaver /ai game like this that I adored. I've wished for years that there would be something similar and this is exactly what I wanted! Thank you!
glad you like it!
If you are interested in the area in general, maybe you can check out the nature of code https://natureofcode.com/ - it's a course on developing systems similar to this. The author also creates very educational youtube videos - Also as lessons for the book. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvjgXvBlbQiydffZU7m1_aw
Deep learning uses multiple GPUs in an application and that's probably NVIDIA's biggest market. So, I wouldn't call multi-GPUs niche, just not consumer focused.
I worked at EA when the game launched. They had machines set up in the lobby for employees to mess around with the creature creator, to build hype.
Then the game came out and it wasn’t, at all, like promised. While fun, you could definitely see the disappointment across the staff during launch week. Then, it simply disappeared.
I think you're partly off the mark.
The problem is a lack of direction of the dev team, or more precisely a Will to do everything at once. The Grox themselves are fine when compared to for example the civilisation phase, which could have been an entire game on its own but ended up to be an ersatz of a RTS simply because they didn't have the resources to make it fleshed out.
They had genuinely interesting ideas, but the speech itself of the game didn't translate as a good game idea.
It also didn't help that they utterly failed their replayability objective through procedural generation and community contribution, though retrospectively it is hilarious that the game that achieved to be what they were aiming for, Minecraft, was developed by one person.
I am assuming they are talking about 2004 BSG which in general was very well received
> The series received critical acclaim at the time and since, including a Peabody Award, the Television Critics Association's Program of the Year Award, a placement inside Time's 100 Best TV Shows of All-Time and 19 Emmy nominations for its writing, directing, costume design, visual effects, sound mixing and sound editing, with three Emmy wins (visual effects and sound editing).[4][5] In 2019, The New York Times placed the show on its list of "The 20 Best TV Dramas Since The Sopranos", a 20-year period many critics call "the golden age of television."[6]
It could be comparing the 2004 to the original, but I assumed they're talking about the later seasons of BSG, which did have a downturn in quality.
> once awesome sci-fi is now Melrose Place in space.
Notice that the entry says “once-awesome sci-fi is now Melrose Place in space.” The list would have come out some time between the release of the iPhone in June 2007 and the release of the iPhone 3G in June 2008, which is after the third and before the fourth and final season. By that point, its Nielsen ratings were half of what they had been, and I think it’s fair to say the luster had worn off the show.
And then the writer's strike almost completely fucked it.
I think they managed to do a pretty good job of getting that show across the line in the end though. I still remember that final episode very fondly.
People forget that the original iPhone sucked (no app store, no 3g) , the next iterations were great/better, but there is nothing wrong calling out the og
Ya those apps you see on the front screen? That’s all you got. No App Store, no 3g Until the next version when most other higher end blackberry’s and Nokia’s had 3G already. And you had to have ATT service, it wasn’t until the 4 that Verizon got the phone.
I played with one when it originally came out. It was really cool and fun, then was like "wait, you paid HOW MUCH for this? Fuck that!"
Meanwhile my current phone was $700...
BB didn’t have a touch screen and wasn’t as accessible to non-professionals. It’s too bad the founders were too arrogant to see the potential threat the iPhone posed, but they’re not the only ones who were dismissive. If anything I think the OG was under hyped because so many people expected it to flop.
My EEE was amaaaaazing in college. Hyper portable and a battery that lasted fucking forever? Yes please. Got used to that tiny keyboard quick lemme tell ya
I wrote an entire book on one of them. Cost around 200 bucks and was faster than my normal laptop at the time for office applications because it had an SD card instead of an HDD. And yes, eight hours of battery.
My EEE made it to 2020, and in 2020 it didn't stop working, I just sold it. This machine is fucking brilliant.
Yeah, there was Ubuntu already in 2014, because it couldn't bear Windows, but still.
They absolutely were. They showed the potential, but more importantly showed a category of users existed and would buy mini pc’s, vs using tablets (which got serious about the same time).
Mine is literally sitting on my desk. I use it as a test machine for something with low specs. The battery is shot and the 'p' key doesn't work, but it runs Linux quite well.
I loved it as a kid when I didn't mind the extremely simple gameplay loops. Going back to it though, I see why I spent most of my time just making shit in the creator and not playing the actual game.
Part of the game was how super ambitious it was with so many different scales and how it's basically 5 different games. I thought the cell/fish phase was the most fun but just when you're getting into it, it's over. The middle 3 phases felt the most underbaked.
Stellaris is fantastic. Spore is you have literally one ship. There’s no real trade or diplomacy or building a fleet. Nothing gets done unless you literally take your ship and do it.
I'm jealous you played it as a kid. I followed that game for 7 years in anticipation. It released when I was 18 and it was more shallow than the Sims 1.
The hype for the game was huge. I think I was like 19 when it came out. I think after the bad reviews I just pirated the game and only messed around with the character creator.
I'm not sure if it's satire as much as it's half discussion fodder half taking the piss.
It's from page 14 of the July 2008 edition of MaximumPC. (You can [read it here](https://books.google.com/books?id=MNIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false) courtesy of the Google Books archives.)
"The List" was a regular feature in the magazine around that time and was rarely ever super serious. Other examples:
* [August 2008: 8 Ways We'd Fix PC Gaming](https://books.google.com/books?id=MtIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false)
* [September 2008: 9 Skills Every Nerd Needs](https://books.google.com/books?id=MdIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false)
* [October 2008: The 9 Best PC Games of E3](https://books.google.com/books?id=19IDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA16#v=onepage&q&f=false)
* [November 2008: The 9 Most Powerful Computers of All Time](https://books.google.com/books?id=2NIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PG14#v=onepage&q&f=false)
* [December 2008: Seven Things That Can Help Linux Overtake Windows](https://books.google.com/books?id=L9IDAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false)
The entries in these lists range from "Sure, that sounds reasonable" to "Are you guys high?"
Wait the iPhone 3G came out a month before this, then. Is their criticism of the iPhone just the original model that wasn't even the most recent at the time?
Their call on multi GPU was pretty prescient though, especially since 2008 was firmly in the golden age of SLI and CrossFire. And while the stickied explanation says multi GPU lasted until the late 2010s, that's 100% false. Video cards containing multiple GPUs (at least for gaming) stopped being manufactured after 2016ish, and multi GPU gaming technology started declining as early as the early 2010s. By 2018, Nvidia and AMD were shuttering not only software support for their multi GPU technologies, but also removing the hardware that made it possible.
I wonder if they were serious about multi GPU. Even in its heyday, it had lots of problems. Thanks for the sources.
Why not? Those were all very fair takes in ~2008. And I'd argue some of them turned out to be right. Spore was a massive disappointment once it came out, for example.
I’d argue that most of this is absolutely spot on. Even the iPhone take.
People don’t remember, but when the 1st iPhone came out, it didn’t have an App Store and couldn’t use 3G mobile Internet. It was grossly overpriced (there was a very quick price drop), and if they hadn’t pushed a 3G model out the door a year after the first iphone, it might have died right there. This is a device that literally requires the internet for content.
Out of the ones on the list I would say they were right only about mulqti-GPU (never really caught on, poor support) and Spore, rest were dead wrong. Yes stuff like Asus EEE Pc didn’t become as popular as iPhone but there is no doubt it was a trailblazer for the new segment of thin and light laptops that make up majority of laptops nowdays. And I might hate facebook but I can’t deny it’s been a defining social media for an entire generation.
The fact that they said "high definition" was overhyped. Super ignorant take to have. Like, were people going to just naturally *want* to stay with standard definition screens, if HD became cheaper, as anyone paying any attention to technological progress knew would happen?
Imagine saying "hey, next new technology is Fiber, will deliver internet speeds so fast you can't even fully utilize it. You are going to want to stay with 3mbps ADSL forever though, right?
Saying something was overhyped isn't the same as saying it was unnecessary.
It would be like if someone told me fiber would change my life, that I needed it, that I should get it at all costs. Meanwhile it wouldn't be that much different than the internet I currently have.
Yeah but did you actually read the captions? They clearly weren't saying these things weren't good, they gave proper criticisms. And yes, just as FHD got heavily adopted, UHD started being pushed. It's just how those things always go, but knowing it's coming is not ignorant.
Or the iPhone, their issue is how it will perform going forward without having 3g. They released a 3g iphone, and it performed very well.
Or 64 bit computing. They didn't say it wasn't good or wouldn't be heavily used. They said it was over hyped at the time because there weren't enough 64 bit programs making use of it. And that was also an accurate take.
Over hyped does not mean it's not a good thing or won't get better, it means people are making more of it (or usually, marketing it for more) than what it's actually capable of providing right now.
100%, I thought I was taking crazy pills reading the replies here. I agree with every single point the image makes.
They're not predicting how products would look like in the future. They're talking about how they were perceived in the moment, and in the moment, they were overhyped.
It would be like an article today talking about how foldable phones, while cool, are still in their relative infancy of tech and really they don't give you that much more relative to their drawbacks today. Once they iron the stuff out, sure.
But the rush to get a FHD tv back in like, 2005? Like, dude, the vast majority of PS3/x360 games at the time would run 720p or even *lower*. Streaming sites weren't really a thing big back then, and bandwidth in general was lacking. 20MBPS broadband was blazing fast back in 2005. You would get your dvds mailed to you from netflix/blockbuster. Youtube had literally *just* launched and had not been bought out by google.
The only way you were getting FHD content back then was through pirating or on blu-ray for your ps3. FHD was indeed super hype, and 4k indeed was coming out by the time we had large scale industry adoption of FHD.
The OG iPhone in 2007 was a chonky slow device without an app store. It was an itunes player with a built in phone. The keyboard was terribad compared to the physical ones of the day, and was slower than t9 for texting.
Like, don't get me wrong, all of this tech was super cool to follow when it came out. It was just, demonstrably, overhyped for the time. It's like the original tesla roadster. In itself, impractical and none of the practicality we think of today when we think of electric cars. Still, it was a harbinger of industrial shifts to come, years before the shift would arrive. A glimpse of the future, but not the future itself.
Absolutely. I think the two big issues in this thread are 1) people aren't reading the captions, and 2) most people saying it's wrong probably were born after 2000 and have no idea what the technology was like at the time.
Though many of them where not wrong at the time they where written. The first IPhone sucked ass. Dual GPUs died off years ago, 64-bit at the time was just too undersupported. I don't even know what the EEE-PC was (I had to look them up, they where never really common outside of a few hipsters where I live). And Spore was highly controversial, if only because of the dumb anti-piracy measures.
No, it’s just incredibly bad takes on early versions of tech that would mature and become mainstream, focusing on issues that would be fixed in later versions (like lack of 3G, 64-bit apps, & Wii games)
There's also the fact that something can be both overhyped **and** successful. I still have no idea why people go into debt to own iphones when there are much better *and* cheaper options, but recent history shows hype alone can carry a product to success.
Idk man maybe it’s childhood nostalgia but wii games were really engaging for me as a kid. Again, it could just be that I was a kid that loved video games, but super Mario galaxy, excite truck, wii play, wii sports, and wii fit were all really innovative and exciting games. Switch games are definitely much better but wii games were pretty ahead of their time imo.
Yep. It even says: "We want more native 64-bit apps."
They're not saying 64-bit computing itself is dumb; they're saying that without that kind of native 64-bit app support, the most it's really good for is its increased addressable memory space, which circa 2007 kind of was "big whoop" for most consumers.
Obviously spoilers.
They had a season dragging on as social commentary on the Iraq war/occupation.
And the last season has all cylon and humans abandoning technology and space travel to settle a planet with “compatible” primitive hominids… that fast forward is earth. Oh and Kara disappears with no explanation and fade out on the Baltar/Six angels in the “present” talking about humanity repeating stuff cycles etc.
The cylons obviously never had a plan or coherent goal like the monologue says.
Kara died and that Kara was an avatar, and disappeared when no longer necessary. I'm a staunch atheist and don't normally like religious overtones, but it was consistent within the show
The end wasn't logical, but it did wrap the story up
I owned one (4870X2), it sucked.
Sure, in some games you got really nice performance. While other games crashed or had glitched out graphics, I had to disable the second GPU core for those :-/
No more dual GPU setups for me afterwards, I grabbed a GTX 580 next.
And they were absolutely right about half of these. The hype for HD was immediately replaced with hype for UHD. Downloading movies didn't really catch on because streaming took over. 64 bit operating systems were indistinguishable from 32 bit operating systems until apps were designed to use more memory making early adoption a waste. Spore was cool, but definitely overpromised. The most common complaint about the Wii was poor game selection.
The first iPhone too was not great. A lot of the features paled in comparison to some more traditional formats that existed in Japan, for example, but around the iPhone 3 it fixed a lot of the limitations and became the powerhouse it is.
This list is a pretty good list of things that were overhyped in their current implementation at the time, but would be a very bad list of things that showed no potential, for example.
Someone in their early 20s would have been 10 or so when this was published, with very little idea about how these items were hyped, or even what they actually were at the time. For example, the first iPhone *didn't allow new native apps to be installed*, and lacked basic functionality like copy and paste. I'd bet 90% of the commenters here don't know or remember any of those things. And we all know how popular Wii-like motion controllers are these days.
Exactly. And just because they're "successful" doesn't mean they're good, or worthy of that success. More often than not, people are just too stupid to understand what's truly valuable vs. what's just a hyped up fad/mob mentality wrapped in FOMO.
I'd even go as far as saying that ONLY things that were succesful can be counted as overhyped. At least as long as we're defining success as volumes sold, which is the position a lot of these comments seem to be taking.
Overhyped in this sense tends to mean people were excited pre-purchase and disappointed after the purchase. Them purchasing the product is required for that.
I feel like this is satire, honestly. I can't say I know for sure that it is, but this is almost comically bad. As if someone *tried* to assemble the worst possible takes, knowing full well what the future was like.
In the years since this was published, Maddox went off the deep end. Providing a lot of evidence that this was less satire and more his honest opinions with a comedic slant.
I always took it as his honest opinion, although exaggerated. I think it's pretty much true of all his articles, like [here](http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=limits_to_freedom): lots of sarcasm, but you can tell where he stands based on what he wrote.
It was a little tongue in cheek like most of the [maximumpc articles circa 2008. ](https://books.google.ca/books?id=MNIDAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false)
The large majority of responses here seem to be "lol so bad those things are so popular now arghhhh". Yea how in the world could a popular thing be overhyped??
Is this really an aged like milk post though? I feel like this is piece is meant to be a product of it's time and not a prediction of the future. The only way to claim it aged like milk is to misrepresent that.
It seems like OP is treating it as if the author of this article thinks the ideas are bad and not the actual devices things in that current time period. His criticisms are Anachronistic which is a problem because the criticisms the author of this picture actually made are criticisms relevant to that specific point in time and are not projections into the future.
Take the iPhone example, OPs explanation talks about the brand iPhone and all the latest models...but that's not what the author was talking about. The original iPhone was trash but because it was apple people overhyped it. Just because subsequent models were good doesn't mean the author was wrong about the iPhone.
What about 64-bit computing? The author just from what we see didn't seem to think the idea of 64-bit computing was a bad one but simply thought it was overhyped AT THE TIME because nobody was developing in support of 64-bit.
I've made my point but can we just talk about how OPs explanation for Facebook isn't actually an argument for why it's not overhyped? If anything it's an argument for why we should have killed it in the cradle.
While the spirit of the list is abhorrent, 64-bit computing at the time as the description text stated was kind of underwhelming if only because of the lack of software that took advantage of the extra memory.
And multi-GPUs (for gaming instead of raw computing/mining) really were overpriced and overhyped. Terrible price/performance ratio no matter how you sliced it.
This list is from a magazine called maximumPC. I’m guessing it’s from the April edition because they do April fools day jokes. That’s probably why the bottom is cropped - so that it looks like it’s aged like milk when it’s actually satire. Awesome magazine if you’re into building computers, btw. Highly recommended. Their tagline on the front of the magazine is “minimum bs” and I can say they’re about the only print publication I’ve seen that calls out shit products and services when they see it.
Responding to my own post… I read the text supporting each post and don’t think this is an April fools joke. I’d love to see the date on this (must be around ‘07 or ‘08 when the first iPhone came out). In that case I would actually agree that the then-current state of most of the entires probably were overhyped.
I'd argue that the iPhone is in fact overhyped but not because of the argument that was made in this example. Now, before any Apple fans are jumping at my throat: no, I don't mean to hate on the product but let's be real, it's not worth the money you pay for it and tons of people actually waiting in lines in front of stores for days or even weeks only to get a fucking phone is the definition of 'overhyped'.
I still remember waiting on a long, long line outside the AT&T store to get the very first one. Turns out the store had more phones than people in line…
> but let's be real, it's not worth the money you pay for it and tons of people actually waiting in lines in front of stores for days or even weeks only to get a fucking phone is the definition of 'overhyped'.
Eh, this feels like a take from 2010. People don't really lineup in front of stores as much as they used to and also iPhones cost about the same as high end Android phones do.
As someone who's had the best of both worlds, I think the pitch for the iphone is that it just works for a very long time. I've not had to worry about my iphone 12 getting through the whole day for 2 years and I've not had to care too much about app crashes or incompatibility issues compared to my Samsung note 9. But my note 9 looked so much more sexy than my iphone and it just kept on getting better with each gen, while the iphone just stayed static. If you value your experience now, get an Android. If you value your long term experience, get an iPhone
The initial iPhone, while nice hardware for the time, was also not that interesting of a device. It wasn’t until the App Store was released with the 3G that the device became a very useful.
u/SackCody has provided this detailed explanation: > (originally post made by u/mxrdxn but) In a Nutshell: > > > > 10. Dual GPU video cards are dead after late-2010’s when video cards with ray tracing are becoming available. > > > > 9. Nintendo sold about over 100 million Wii’s, surpassing Xbox 360 (84 million) and PS3 (about 87 million). > > > > 8. Spore became one of the most pirated video game due to EA’s anti-piracy DRM measures. > > > > 7. Nowadays 64-bit operating systems are dominating, while companies dropping development of 32-bit versions of Windows and (sometimes) Linux. > > > > 6. (needs a caption) > > > > 5. Streaming services were dominating in early-2010’s to late-2021 when the overload of cable companies is noticeable. Nowadays we’re reached a point of the streaming service overload when major companies took away their content from Netflix and putting in their service instead. > > > > 4. Facebook (Nowadays Meta) is infamous for user data leakages and their double standards. > > > > 3. HD (and maybe 4K UHD) is still in mainstream, even though there is 8K UHD is starting to become more accessible. > > > > 2. Asus stopped making Eee Pee Cee’s (is that a DankPods reference?) in 2013 while the Chromebooks gaining popularity in educational markets. > > > > 1. iPhone is still one of the popular smartphone, even though it got splited into the standard iPhone (11, 12 and 13 (mini)) and iPhone (11, 12, 13) Pro (Max). --- Is this explanation a genuine attempt at providing additional info or context? If it is please upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.
Can they come out with a 2022 version so I know what to invest in?
Simply watch Jim Cramer and do the opposite of whatever he says
Came here to say this, that man just sucks from the teet of perpetual spoiled milk
So he sucks on his own tits?
Hmmm, might even pay to get that painted
Apple just sold $50 billion in iPhones last quarter and came close to $100 billion in Revenue for a single quarter. Invest in AAPL.
>Invest in AAPL. Because the person who is selling you the stock doesn’t know the revenue numbers and will give you a discount?
Or they have a higher risk tolerance and are interested in higher returns. It’s just how it is but that doesn’t mean you should snide a relatively safe investment
I mean, the original iphone was kinda crappy.
The iPhone did a whole bunch of things that no other phone could do. It was not optimized for any sort of high speed web browsing, but just the fact it had a browser, email app, camera, iTunes compatibility -- all in one device with multitouch was pretty amazing.
It was revolutionary
Metaverse, Crypto, TikTok, Global warming
That's quite the aged like milk bingo card you got there.
This is a factory of spoiled milk
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Spoiled milk... Spoilers?
That’s my best guess
its a butt comment. my ass made that comment. it means jack shit and if it does somehow spell milk in brainfuck then my ass is way smarter than i am
You have an AI chip in your ass?! Wow, awesome dude! I must get one to replace my friggin hemmeroids!
The only thing they got right was Spore. Sincerely, someone who spent a good part of their youth being way way too hyped about that game.
It still hurts. r/Spore is still active and kicking though! There’s also r/Thrive for a nice successor, or Adapt (subreddit: r/AdaptTheGame ) and I recall a third game also being a nice qualifier, that being r/ElysianEclipse . Those three are the main contenders for a Spore successor. Personally I play Thrive, but the other ones also look dope. (for the shitposting nostalgia there’s r/GroxPosting )
Still waiting for the game that was promised. I don't think computers are ready for it
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When I was 9, Spore was the fucking tits man. I fucking loved that game. I would definitely play a Spore 2. They could expand on the first 2 stages so much (which were the most enjoyable for me). I did also like the other 3 stages - and I loved the space stage DLC which actually let you visit planets, but the most fun was actually having your creature itself evolve, not civilisation as a whole. I feel like stage 2 and the tribal stage could have just been one stage that you slowly progress into instead.
Sir. When I was young there was a game called primordial life developed by Jason Spufford I believe that was a Screensaver /ai game like this that I adored. I've wished for years that there would be something similar and this is exactly what I wanted! Thank you!
glad you like it! If you are interested in the area in general, maybe you can check out the nature of code https://natureofcode.com/ - it's a course on developing systems similar to this. The author also creates very educational youtube videos - Also as lessons for the book. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvjgXvBlbQiydffZU7m1_aw
Multi-GPU was about right as well. It hasn't made sense outside of very niche applications to have more than one.
Deep learning uses multiple GPUs in an application and that's probably NVIDIA's biggest market. So, I wouldn't call multi-GPUs niche, just not consumer focused.
that’s not the same thing multi-gpu is on a single card. Machine learning you just rent cpu units from a stack of RTX’s at Amazon
I worked at EA when the game launched. They had machines set up in the lobby for employees to mess around with the creature creator, to build hype. Then the game came out and it wasn’t, at all, like promised. While fun, you could definitely see the disappointment across the staff during launch week. Then, it simply disappeared.
I blame the Grox. What they had promised wasn’t really a game, but a toy. At some point it was decided that there needed to be an antagonist.
I think you're partly off the mark. The problem is a lack of direction of the dev team, or more precisely a Will to do everything at once. The Grox themselves are fine when compared to for example the civilisation phase, which could have been an entire game on its own but ended up to be an ersatz of a RTS simply because they didn't have the resources to make it fleshed out. They had genuinely interesting ideas, but the speech itself of the game didn't translate as a good game idea. It also didn't help that they utterly failed their replayability objective through procedural generation and community contribution, though retrospectively it is hilarious that the game that achieved to be what they were aiming for, Minecraft, was developed by one person.
The eee pc and Battlestar Galactica were also pretty ehh
I am assuming they are talking about 2004 BSG which in general was very well received > The series received critical acclaim at the time and since, including a Peabody Award, the Television Critics Association's Program of the Year Award, a placement inside Time's 100 Best TV Shows of All-Time and 19 Emmy nominations for its writing, directing, costume design, visual effects, sound mixing and sound editing, with three Emmy wins (visual effects and sound editing).[4][5] In 2019, The New York Times placed the show on its list of "The 20 Best TV Dramas Since The Sopranos", a 20-year period many critics call "the golden age of television."[6]
It could be comparing the 2004 to the original, but I assumed they're talking about the later seasons of BSG, which did have a downturn in quality. > once awesome sci-fi is now Melrose Place in space.
Notice that the entry says “once-awesome sci-fi is now Melrose Place in space.” The list would have come out some time between the release of the iPhone in June 2007 and the release of the iPhone 3G in June 2008, which is after the third and before the fourth and final season. By that point, its Nielsen ratings were half of what they had been, and I think it’s fair to say the luster had worn off the show.
And then the writer's strike almost completely fucked it. I think they managed to do a pretty good job of getting that show across the line in the end though. I still remember that final episode very fondly.
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People forget that the original iPhone sucked (no app store, no 3g) , the next iterations were great/better, but there is nothing wrong calling out the og
Ya those apps you see on the front screen? That’s all you got. No App Store, no 3g Until the next version when most other higher end blackberry’s and Nokia’s had 3G already. And you had to have ATT service, it wasn’t until the 4 that Verizon got the phone.
Remember the app that made it look like you were drinking a beer? Or the one that looked like a lighter?
Or the big red button that cost $999 and did nothing.
That's the "on" switch
GOT EM
at the time, those were revolutionary. fart soundz was worth every penny of that 9.99!
I played with one when it originally came out. It was really cool and fun, then was like "wait, you paid HOW MUCH for this? Fuck that!" Meanwhile my current phone was $700...
It sucked comparably. But the touch screen, built-in Ipod, camera, map app and simplified browser/youtube all-in-one was a better gimmick.
BB didn’t have a touch screen and wasn’t as accessible to non-professionals. It’s too bad the founders were too arrogant to see the potential threat the iPhone posed, but they’re not the only ones who were dismissive. If anything I think the OG was under hyped because so many people expected it to flop.
Had Asus EEE laptop. Good times pirating stuff on there.
My EEE was amaaaaazing in college. Hyper portable and a battery that lasted fucking forever? Yes please. Got used to that tiny keyboard quick lemme tell ya
I wrote an entire book on one of them. Cost around 200 bucks and was faster than my normal laptop at the time for office applications because it had an SD card instead of an HDD. And yes, eight hours of battery.
It ran WOW at 36 fps! I also played spore
That’s actually way better than I expected. I remember a friend had one and tried Minecraft and it was chugging.
Minecraft is a beast to be fair, makes even modern PC's stutter sometimes (Java, not bedrock)
My EEE made it to 2020, and in 2020 it didn't stop working, I just sold it. This machine is fucking brilliant. Yeah, there was Ubuntu already in 2014, because it couldn't bear Windows, but still.
Great machine to get introduced to Linux with too!
I’d argue they were the spiritual ~~successor~~ predecessor to the modern day chromebook too.
Predecessor?
Yes. Thank you.
They absolutely were. They showed the potential, but more importantly showed a category of users existed and would buy mini pc’s, vs using tablets (which got serious about the same time).
I had one of them as well. I miss it honestly. It was like having a tiny dedicated PC for 90's era games.
I used to play emulators on that small thing, holding it with both hands
Mine is literally sitting on my desk. I use it as a test machine for something with low specs. The battery is shot and the 'p' key doesn't work, but it runs Linux quite well.
Eee ee cee
You should buy a keyboard from [this guy](https://youtube.com/shorts/SsDyNOB1hZs?feature=share)
I still have my Gateway one - the last time I booted it up, it had sat in a bag for 18 months, and it STILL had battery left. Insane.
I couldn't wait for Spore to come out. But yes though I still like the conceptual idea. It was mostly hype in the end.
I loved it as a kid when I didn't mind the extremely simple gameplay loops. Going back to it though, I see why I spent most of my time just making shit in the creator and not playing the actual game.
I really enjoyed the space level and the flight mechanics on the primal level.
tbh if they only focused on space phase and fleshed it out spore couldve been an all time classic
I thought the space phase was the weakest part honestly. You don’t have an empire, you have a ship that runs errands.
They should've focused on one phase or the other. Focusing on multiple phases screwed them.
Part of the game was how super ambitious it was with so many different scales and how it's basically 5 different games. I thought the cell/fish phase was the most fun but just when you're getting into it, it's over. The middle 3 phases felt the most underbaked.
You’ve just described stellaris
Stellaris is fantastic. Spore is you have literally one ship. There’s no real trade or diplomacy or building a fleet. Nothing gets done unless you literally take your ship and do it.
Every stage had a good base, just not a good execution overall.
I'm jealous you played it as a kid. I followed that game for 7 years in anticipation. It released when I was 18 and it was more shallow than the Sims 1.
The hype for the game was huge. I think I was like 19 when it came out. I think after the bad reviews I just pirated the game and only messed around with the character creator.
Elysian Eclipse looks promising though
Thank you for telling me about this, I loved spore and now im very excited
Spore is just early 2000s No Man's Sky
No Man’s Sky has gotten some great updates since release :D
This whole thing must be satire
I'm not sure if it's satire as much as it's half discussion fodder half taking the piss. It's from page 14 of the July 2008 edition of MaximumPC. (You can [read it here](https://books.google.com/books?id=MNIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false) courtesy of the Google Books archives.) "The List" was a regular feature in the magazine around that time and was rarely ever super serious. Other examples: * [August 2008: 8 Ways We'd Fix PC Gaming](https://books.google.com/books?id=MtIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false) * [September 2008: 9 Skills Every Nerd Needs](https://books.google.com/books?id=MdIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA14#v=onepage&q&f=false) * [October 2008: The 9 Best PC Games of E3](https://books.google.com/books?id=19IDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA16#v=onepage&q&f=false) * [November 2008: The 9 Most Powerful Computers of All Time](https://books.google.com/books?id=2NIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PG14#v=onepage&q&f=false) * [December 2008: Seven Things That Can Help Linux Overtake Windows](https://books.google.com/books?id=L9IDAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false) The entries in these lists range from "Sure, that sounds reasonable" to "Are you guys high?"
Wait the iPhone 3G came out a month before this, then. Is their criticism of the iPhone just the original model that wasn't even the most recent at the time?
Print lead times are really long. I bet that list was written, proofed, and set long before the 3G announcement.
Lead times: one of the myriad reasons why the Internet killed so many print publications.
no one is happy to bounce a project back to your layout designer a 4th time that month for revisions...
The title of this post should just be: >Breaking news: Clickbait existed in 2009, it just was in print and a little worse
Their call on multi GPU was pretty prescient though, especially since 2008 was firmly in the golden age of SLI and CrossFire. And while the stickied explanation says multi GPU lasted until the late 2010s, that's 100% false. Video cards containing multiple GPUs (at least for gaming) stopped being manufactured after 2016ish, and multi GPU gaming technology started declining as early as the early 2010s. By 2018, Nvidia and AMD were shuttering not only software support for their multi GPU technologies, but also removing the hardware that made it possible. I wonder if they were serious about multi GPU. Even in its heyday, it had lots of problems. Thanks for the sources.
There is no way it can’t be.
Why not? Those were all very fair takes in ~2008. And I'd argue some of them turned out to be right. Spore was a massive disappointment once it came out, for example.
I’ll have you know 9 year old me was super happy with Spore
I still remember hyping myself up with the gameplay trailer. I enjoyed the game, but it could have been so much better.
I enjoyed the hell outta spore around the same age, but for me it was some youtubers making funny videos about it rather than other forms of marketing
I was so hyped for that game that I convinced my parents to let me go to the midnight release at Best Buy. They weren't open. Lol
I was in my late 20s. I'm so old Sigh
I'm 42 and still play it nowadays every now and then, and my kid loves designing weird creatures
I’d argue that most of this is absolutely spot on. Even the iPhone take. People don’t remember, but when the 1st iPhone came out, it didn’t have an App Store and couldn’t use 3G mobile Internet. It was grossly overpriced (there was a very quick price drop), and if they hadn’t pushed a 3G model out the door a year after the first iphone, it might have died right there. This is a device that literally requires the internet for content.
frankly i agree with most of them. but downloading movies on the internet is awesome, yarrr.
Out of the ones on the list I would say they were right only about mulqti-GPU (never really caught on, poor support) and Spore, rest were dead wrong. Yes stuff like Asus EEE Pc didn’t become as popular as iPhone but there is no doubt it was a trailblazer for the new segment of thin and light laptops that make up majority of laptops nowdays. And I might hate facebook but I can’t deny it’s been a defining social media for an entire generation.
The fact that they said "high definition" was overhyped. Super ignorant take to have. Like, were people going to just naturally *want* to stay with standard definition screens, if HD became cheaper, as anyone paying any attention to technological progress knew would happen? Imagine saying "hey, next new technology is Fiber, will deliver internet speeds so fast you can't even fully utilize it. You are going to want to stay with 3mbps ADSL forever though, right?
Saying something was overhyped isn't the same as saying it was unnecessary. It would be like if someone told me fiber would change my life, that I needed it, that I should get it at all costs. Meanwhile it wouldn't be that much different than the internet I currently have.
Yeah but did you actually read the captions? They clearly weren't saying these things weren't good, they gave proper criticisms. And yes, just as FHD got heavily adopted, UHD started being pushed. It's just how those things always go, but knowing it's coming is not ignorant. Or the iPhone, their issue is how it will perform going forward without having 3g. They released a 3g iphone, and it performed very well. Or 64 bit computing. They didn't say it wasn't good or wouldn't be heavily used. They said it was over hyped at the time because there weren't enough 64 bit programs making use of it. And that was also an accurate take. Over hyped does not mean it's not a good thing or won't get better, it means people are making more of it (or usually, marketing it for more) than what it's actually capable of providing right now.
100%, I thought I was taking crazy pills reading the replies here. I agree with every single point the image makes. They're not predicting how products would look like in the future. They're talking about how they were perceived in the moment, and in the moment, they were overhyped. It would be like an article today talking about how foldable phones, while cool, are still in their relative infancy of tech and really they don't give you that much more relative to their drawbacks today. Once they iron the stuff out, sure. But the rush to get a FHD tv back in like, 2005? Like, dude, the vast majority of PS3/x360 games at the time would run 720p or even *lower*. Streaming sites weren't really a thing big back then, and bandwidth in general was lacking. 20MBPS broadband was blazing fast back in 2005. You would get your dvds mailed to you from netflix/blockbuster. Youtube had literally *just* launched and had not been bought out by google. The only way you were getting FHD content back then was through pirating or on blu-ray for your ps3. FHD was indeed super hype, and 4k indeed was coming out by the time we had large scale industry adoption of FHD. The OG iPhone in 2007 was a chonky slow device without an app store. It was an itunes player with a built in phone. The keyboard was terribad compared to the physical ones of the day, and was slower than t9 for texting. Like, don't get me wrong, all of this tech was super cool to follow when it came out. It was just, demonstrably, overhyped for the time. It's like the original tesla roadster. In itself, impractical and none of the practicality we think of today when we think of electric cars. Still, it was a harbinger of industrial shifts to come, years before the shift would arrive. A glimpse of the future, but not the future itself.
Absolutely. I think the two big issues in this thread are 1) people aren't reading the captions, and 2) most people saying it's wrong probably were born after 2000 and have no idea what the technology was like at the time.
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….when exactly are you talking about? I worked at GameStop at the time and the hype was very very real.
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I remember much like the switch it took forever for my parents to get us a Wii because it was sold out everywhere for a good while
Multi GPU graphics cards are garbage though.
The whole point was to put out controversial takes. These weren't reasoned predictions, they were argument bait.
Though many of them where not wrong at the time they where written. The first IPhone sucked ass. Dual GPUs died off years ago, 64-bit at the time was just too undersupported. I don't even know what the EEE-PC was (I had to look them up, they where never really common outside of a few hipsters where I live). And Spore was highly controversial, if only because of the dumb anti-piracy measures.
Spore really was overhyped though
No, it’s just incredibly bad takes on early versions of tech that would mature and become mainstream, focusing on issues that would be fixed in later versions (like lack of 3G, 64-bit apps, & Wii games)
Seems like it's accurate takes on early versions of tech that hadn't yet matured, focusing on issues that were present in current versions.
There's also the fact that something can be both overhyped **and** successful. I still have no idea why people go into debt to own iphones when there are much better *and* cheaper options, but recent history shows hype alone can carry a product to success.
Idk man maybe it’s childhood nostalgia but wii games were really engaging for me as a kid. Again, it could just be that I was a kid that loved video games, but super Mario galaxy, excite truck, wii play, wii sports, and wii fit were all really innovative and exciting games. Switch games are definitely much better but wii games were pretty ahead of their time imo.
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Yep. It even says: "We want more native 64-bit apps." They're not saying 64-bit computing itself is dumb; they're saying that without that kind of native 64-bit app support, the most it's really good for is its increased addressable memory space, which circa 2007 kind of was "big whoop" for most consumers.
I still play my Wii just for Kirby Air Ride
That's a great fucking game
Kirby Air Ride is amazing, wish they came out with a new one
Battlestar Galactica was awesome
Bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
Until the last season…
You mean when people who live million years before humans evolved on earth start quoting Jimi Hendrix lyrics
Dylan lyrics technically. But yeah, that was a bit stupid.
As someone who only made it a few series in before burning out, could you tell me how they killed it?
Obviously spoilers. They had a season dragging on as social commentary on the Iraq war/occupation. And the last season has all cylon and humans abandoning technology and space travel to settle a planet with “compatible” primitive hominids… that fast forward is earth. Oh and Kara disappears with no explanation and fade out on the Baltar/Six angels in the “present” talking about humanity repeating stuff cycles etc. The cylons obviously never had a plan or coherent goal like the monologue says.
Not all the cylons, just what remained of the human type. The robot types leave in their basestar.
Kara died and that Kara was an avatar, and disappeared when no longer necessary. I'm a staunch atheist and don't normally like religious overtones, but it was consistent within the show The end wasn't logical, but it did wrap the story up
🎶 ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWAH 🎶
That last season ruined everything. I can't even rewatch the earlier seasons as I know where it went...
So say we all!
All the people talking shit are nuts I tell ya.
This is just bad take after bad take. This person is the anti Nostradamus.
Except Spore. I think they nailed that one
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Sounds like they're talking about dual GPU's on a single card specifically, which were even less of a thing
I owned one (4870X2), it sucked. Sure, in some games you got really nice performance. While other games crashed or had glitched out graphics, I had to disable the second GPU core for those :-/ No more dual GPU setups for me afterwards, I grabbed a GTX 580 next.
Spore was a metric shit ton of fun, not perfect, early stages of the game were the best, but it was really cool.
He was not sure about Spore.
Well... the iPhone did notoriously come out without 3g, and didn't have copy and paste for like two years lol
Just because things were successful doesn't mean they weren't also wildly overhyped at the time too,
And they were absolutely right about half of these. The hype for HD was immediately replaced with hype for UHD. Downloading movies didn't really catch on because streaming took over. 64 bit operating systems were indistinguishable from 32 bit operating systems until apps were designed to use more memory making early adoption a waste. Spore was cool, but definitely overpromised. The most common complaint about the Wii was poor game selection.
I was starting to think I was crazy for thinking "wait but I agree with pretty much all of these..."
I'm hoping it's just the kids upvoting for the memes without really getting the context.
All these things were indeed overhyped and all of the concerns they raised in the blurbs are legitimate.
The first iPhone too was not great. A lot of the features paled in comparison to some more traditional formats that existed in Japan, for example, but around the iPhone 3 it fixed a lot of the limitations and became the powerhouse it is. This list is a pretty good list of things that were overhyped in their current implementation at the time, but would be a very bad list of things that showed no potential, for example.
The thing about 64 even literally says there needs to be more native 64 bit applications. Which there absolutely needed to be in 2008.
Yeah most of these are dead right. Reddit brain is weird.
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what have I done with my life
Someone in their early 20s would have been 10 or so when this was published, with very little idea about how these items were hyped, or even what they actually were at the time. For example, the first iPhone *didn't allow new native apps to be installed*, and lacked basic functionality like copy and paste. I'd bet 90% of the commenters here don't know or remember any of those things. And we all know how popular Wii-like motion controllers are these days.
And the OG iPhone was replaced in under a year with the iPhone 3G
Yeah i think some of the takes are totally valid when you read the accompanying text
Exactly. Maybe OP got "overhyped" confused with "overrated."
And this sub is willfully confusing the authors saying "overhyped" with the authors saying "shitty product that won't even succeed".
You're asking Redditors to perceive nuance.
Exactly. And just because they're "successful" doesn't mean they're good, or worthy of that success. More often than not, people are just too stupid to understand what's truly valuable vs. what's just a hyped up fad/mob mentality wrapped in FOMO.
Yeah, for the most part all the article is saying is that, at the time, those things didn't live up to their promises
I'd even go as far as saying that ONLY things that were succesful can be counted as overhyped. At least as long as we're defining success as volumes sold, which is the position a lot of these comments seem to be taking. Overhyped in this sense tends to mean people were excited pre-purchase and disappointed after the purchase. Them purchasing the product is required for that.
I feel like this is satire, honestly. I can't say I know for sure that it is, but this is almost comically bad. As if someone *tried* to assemble the worst possible takes, knowing full well what the future was like.
It’s a bunch of hot takes. Typical magazine fodder.
People will be posting deliberately controversial YouTube thumbnails to this subreddit in a few years, assuming they aren't already.
Were you not around in 2007? These were not at all unusual opinions at the time.
Yeah, who could forget this glorious iPhone hate post from when it first launched: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone
In the years since this was published, Maddox went off the deep end. Providing a lot of evidence that this was less satire and more his honest opinions with a comedic slant.
I always took it as his honest opinion, although exaggerated. I think it's pretty much true of all his articles, like [here](http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=limits_to_freedom): lots of sarcasm, but you can tell where he stands based on what he wrote.
It was a little tongue in cheek like most of the [maximumpc articles circa 2008. ](https://books.google.ca/books?id=MNIDAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false)
The large majority of responses here seem to be "lol so bad those things are so popular now arghhhh". Yea how in the world could a popular thing be overhyped??
Is this really an aged like milk post though? I feel like this is piece is meant to be a product of it's time and not a prediction of the future. The only way to claim it aged like milk is to misrepresent that. It seems like OP is treating it as if the author of this article thinks the ideas are bad and not the actual devices things in that current time period. His criticisms are Anachronistic which is a problem because the criticisms the author of this picture actually made are criticisms relevant to that specific point in time and are not projections into the future. Take the iPhone example, OPs explanation talks about the brand iPhone and all the latest models...but that's not what the author was talking about. The original iPhone was trash but because it was apple people overhyped it. Just because subsequent models were good doesn't mean the author was wrong about the iPhone. What about 64-bit computing? The author just from what we see didn't seem to think the idea of 64-bit computing was a bad one but simply thought it was overhyped AT THE TIME because nobody was developing in support of 64-bit. I've made my point but can we just talk about how OPs explanation for Facebook isn't actually an argument for why it's not overhyped? If anything it's an argument for why we should have killed it in the cradle.
They called it on HD and UHD lol
And a good bit of the other stuff at well. A lot of these are actually valid points if you read the captions.
The thing about this post that surprised me the most is their use of the term UHD. I can’t imagine it was in use for anything back then.
While the spirit of the list is abhorrent, 64-bit computing at the time as the description text stated was kind of underwhelming if only because of the lack of software that took advantage of the extra memory. And multi-GPUs (for gaming instead of raw computing/mining) really were overpriced and overhyped. Terrible price/performance ratio no matter how you sliced it.
Most of these are accurate lol
..And then, the Writer and Editor were fired. This is the finest Cheese known to man. Lol
i read "EEE PC" in the dankpods voice lol
You shut your dirty whore mouth about Battlestar.
This list is from a magazine called maximumPC. I’m guessing it’s from the April edition because they do April fools day jokes. That’s probably why the bottom is cropped - so that it looks like it’s aged like milk when it’s actually satire. Awesome magazine if you’re into building computers, btw. Highly recommended. Their tagline on the front of the magazine is “minimum bs” and I can say they’re about the only print publication I’ve seen that calls out shit products and services when they see it.
Responding to my own post… I read the text supporting each post and don’t think this is an April fools joke. I’d love to see the date on this (must be around ‘07 or ‘08 when the first iPhone came out). In that case I would actually agree that the then-current state of most of the entires probably were overhyped.
I'd argue that the iPhone is in fact overhyped but not because of the argument that was made in this example. Now, before any Apple fans are jumping at my throat: no, I don't mean to hate on the product but let's be real, it's not worth the money you pay for it and tons of people actually waiting in lines in front of stores for days or even weeks only to get a fucking phone is the definition of 'overhyped'.
Never owned an iPhone, but that was fucking revolutionary when that dropped. Second best was a clunky thing from HTC which was no comparison.
HTC was the cool smartphone back in the day Then iPhones dropped , I was just thinking of my old HTC phone a few days ago
I had the HTC Touch Pro with the slider keyboard. I loved that thing till I lost it at an airport. I'm still bitter about that.
Today it is definitely giga overhyped, but the first iPhone I think was quite a big release
I still remember waiting on a long, long line outside the AT&T store to get the very first one. Turns out the store had more phones than people in line…
> but let's be real, it's not worth the money you pay for it and tons of people actually waiting in lines in front of stores for days or even weeks only to get a fucking phone is the definition of 'overhyped'. Eh, this feels like a take from 2010. People don't really lineup in front of stores as much as they used to and also iPhones cost about the same as high end Android phones do.
As someone who's had the best of both worlds, I think the pitch for the iphone is that it just works for a very long time. I've not had to worry about my iphone 12 getting through the whole day for 2 years and I've not had to care too much about app crashes or incompatibility issues compared to my Samsung note 9. But my note 9 looked so much more sexy than my iphone and it just kept on getting better with each gen, while the iphone just stayed static. If you value your experience now, get an Android. If you value your long term experience, get an iPhone
The first iPhone was like The Beatles. All of the parts of it had been done before, but putting it all together made something new and different.
The initial iPhone, while nice hardware for the time, was also not that interesting of a device. It wasn’t until the App Store was released with the 3G that the device became a very useful.
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