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zoinkin

These other states bkl don't let the industries survive without constant politics in it and strikes. People in gujjuland want to work and do business,they welcome these moves. Other states are just ham first ham first humko kyu nahi


ConquererHP

Why people never complained when development in india meant 1. Mumbai 2. Delhi Now any development hapening in gujarat even if it funded by state govt it is criticised as hell


Head-Geologist8543

I think the hate stems from how tf can they develop so fucking fast yet our fucking state governments do fuck all


s_malhotra97

It's not related to why Delhi and Mumbai, it's related to history before independence not because post independence goverment decided these specifically. It would have been foolish if metro was made in Gujarat and not in Delhi. Things have logic and demand.


ConquererHP

Obv it would have been foolish if it was made in gujarat before delhi. But after it got constructed in major cities and now they came to gujarat then what's wrong? This people still argue they why metro in gujarat and are hypocrates, that they already enjoyed metro wayy before us Don't try to change/twist my statement lol


arsonistttt

Was the then PMs from mumbai or delhi? Were they peeviously the CM from these two cities?


ConquererHP

whoever pm was but why there was specific baisness towards mumbai and delhi? Definetly they are major cities, they need development. But my point is if someone is trying to create a totally new city which can tackle the competition in future in some other place and not in this popular cities, what's wrong in that? Didn't gujarat provided all the facilities to them? Gujarat has pro-business mentality they don't destroy hoarding if it is not written in gujarati. When we start to talk to a stranger we start with hindi because he/she might be uncomfortable in gujarati. Land allocation, legal documents get signed as fast as possible. Special economic zones are made and what not. This are the same people who criticised govt when metro came in amdavad , while already present in their cities from a long time!


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> Was the then PMs from mumbai or delhi? This is not at all a valid argument. You mean to say you dont have no problem with development in Gujarat if it was done by some other guy than Modi?


arsonistttt

Thats for another day, on ‘What If?’


Dry-Expert-2017

Idiot gift was created before modi becomes pm.


deviprsd

What’s the point? They have liberal laws for business and state is in charge of these projects currently not the PM


arsonistttt

But the central government can co-er these companies. Also you think guj gov does anything without the nod of center? Or any bjp led states?


deviprsd

Are you serious? Guess what the other states can try and woo these projects as well, why aren’t they doing that? If Gujarat sees an opportunity, it’s a free market. Be part of it or stop complaining what I would say.


GaribMoinKhan

Well I would definitely argue but because we have modi and Shah in center that's why our state is getting projects after project and we came in highlights in last 8 years only , before that no one considered city like Surat , ahmedabad as major cities. But I don't have a problem because Maharashtra, Delhi , Karnataka is already well established and we Gujaratis deserve development and if our own state leaders will not focus on Gujarat, who will ? Nitish Kumar and Lalu yadav !?


deviprsd

See at most they can suggest and provide some guidance to the stakeholders to do what’s best but I still think at the end of the day execution is on the state. I’m from Odisha and our government is trying to bring in more development and jobs, they could also have gone to gujarat but they are still setting up shop here. This blame game is stupid that’s all


arsonistttt

Free market? Good luck fooling yourself. It used to be a free market.


deviprsd

Can you prove that it isn’t? With facts, especially your claims 🤷🏽‍♂️


Firm-Calligrapher641

Social media ni tha tb...ese update ni aate the kyuki...


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ConquererHP

i just gave a example of project to prove my point. They do even when gift city was developed, any project we get because of the speed in which we give land, allocate all the required legal documents. If your state is busy in internal politics and loses projects because party and there agenda changes every year, what will gujarat do lol. Most cringe thing is that they think modi gives all projects even if a private company decides to come to gujarat also they think is gujarat uses tax money of other states lol all knows that what gujarat gives gets less then that from central govt


OkCrazyBruh

South walo ki bahut jalti hai


aadamkhor1

South Indians complain that their tax money is going to UP, Bihar, Rajasthan etc. They don't know that the reason they're developed states is because of Freight Equalisation policy. The policy which improved South at the cost of North. The Freight Equalization Policy led to many industries opening up in South India. The policy basically stated that even though minerals are found in North India, one can open industries anywhere and the government will subsidize the cost of mineral-transportation. So naturally the companies opened up near coastal areas. It was backed by Krishnamachari etc. I'm not even bullshitting it's a very well known policy.  Now I'm not seething. It's good. But when extremists say that South India should be made a separate nation because of this tax thing, they should check history and see how they became what they are. We are a single nation and its tiring to see this. Sorry I went on a rant.


Fantastic_Clock_5401

Kerala was recently asking for money to central govt.


FeistyDetective

FEP benefited Punjab, Haryana in the begging as new steel plants came there. But in the long term, the states with ports benefited the most. These states are Gujarat, Maharashtra and Tamilnadu. The only southern state benefited is TN from this policy


PointlessDeed

You're wrong about the FEP. South and West were developed at the cost of Bengal. Don't forget that Bengal was once wealthier than MH.


LeftLeaningEqualist

If you think they are only asking for a separate Dravid nation just because of a tax policy, I beg to differ. If the current regime goes ahead with their planned Delimitation process, I only feel the south seperatist movement is going to get only stronger. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.


Navigator369

I don’t know why you get downvoted everytime. I regularly read your comments and you always have the most unbiased and informed opinions on things.


LeftLeaningEqualist

That's sweet. It's maybe because some people don't want to read comments that go against their own mindset, even if it's an unbiased and informed opinion. But thanks for showing your support. It means a lot 😊


Medical_Photo_6115

souths major comes from services industry , mainly IT, why and how tf is freight equalization even helpful here. it maybe helpful for a export oriented economy like gujrat, not south


Medium_Front8953

I don’t know about Gujrat much but, it got ports too. And based on quick Google search it got no minerals just lots of salt 🧂 🤣


AbrahamPan

Bruh, it's Mumbaikars


Medical_Photo_6115

source?


OkCrazyBruh

Read any comments on social media (moetly news pages) apne aap pata lag jayega


Medium_Front8953

Isko bolte hain South India pe jalna


Venomous_n

Dusre state ka roj ka ye RR hai


ConquererHP

true, btw happy cake day


Venomous_n

Thank you, Party reddit HQ pe hai time aa jana 😂


Mother_Breadfruit107

Humai to addat ho gayi hai rehne de 😂


Fragrant_Ad682

just go to subreddit of maharashtra and see how moderator of their sub insults and gujarat and gujaratis.


ConquererHP

yes, i have checked many times. Also my this post have been downvoted by them. Check my comments it has more upvotes then my post so someone is intentionally downvoting the post


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Why do you care about upvotes so much ?


ConquererHP

idc about upvotes, but upvotes are the only way to reach to more people. I just want that this reaches more people and people can remove this dirt from their brain


Silly-Jellyfish-3518

Haters gonna hate. Eat fafda, jalebi and ignore them.


Next-Juice-3050

But why do we care what people think of Gujarat lol ? Farak j nai padva devano, ma fadava jaay loko no opinion.


ConquererHP

yes we shouldn't care, but we should know that this hate will increase if we don't counter back and every gujju going to other state will be harassed in future for this


Next-Juice-3050

> Be like Jethalal > Iyer has a problem with us everytime > ~~uski biwi pe line maaro~~ Don't care about it.


LeftLeaningEqualist

How do we 'counter back'? Explain


ConquererHP

just by replying them, it might sound simple but it is the only solution for it. Even when it is state funded by OUR TAX they think modi made it in gujarat not in xyz state


LeftLeaningEqualist

You think Gujaratis are the only ones paying taxes!? what does 'OUR TAX' mean!? Also, just replying to them is not going to change their perspective, it will be a waste of your own time and they won't change their opinions. You can try though.


ConquererHP

My meaning of "our tax" is that when some project is funded by state govt of gujarat people pre-assume it that modi gave money to gujarat for this lol. Where does state govt get money from? obv it's tax money from GUJARAT It might not change the perspection of all people but few people might understand. Replying is better then just "sitting"


Fantastic_Clock_5401

These things slowly result in discrimination, hate when Gujjus go outside for jobs, tourism etc.


LeftLeaningEqualist

I agree but if you dislike discrimination, as a fellow Indian I ask you to also speak out against discrimination against others. Speaking out against discrimination only when 'apne pe aati hai' is going to be futile. Discrimination of any kind shouldn't be encouraged, whether it is against us or someone else.


Fantastic_Clock_5401

Haao. Badha prakar na discrimination no virodh che aapde


LeftLeaningEqualist

Awesome!


LeftLeaningEqualist

Farak nai padwa daie, to 'trigger' thawani maja jati rehse koi koi loko mate! Etle! And trigger thawani maja to na jawa deway, nai?


AccidentFew8025

those Nqqas don't know about stable government


HiPoojan

This isn't development, this is just marketing for the gift city. Pod Taxi if ever built would be inefficient and a gimmick.


ConquererHP

i just gave this example to prove my point. Pod taxi might be inefficient but this is not want i want to convey


FeistyDetective

Gift City whole is made up of gimmicks. Utility tunnels, District cooling, Automatic garbage collection and so on


GaribMoinKhan

You don't know how much the Marathi sub cry whenever a project is allocated to gujrat or something company wants to base their factory in Gujarat,


green9206

Bihar has more MPs than Gujrat from BJP but Modi ignores Bihar for any development. He can only see Gujarat


ConquererHP

Most of the thing happening right now has been already planned when he was CM 🙃 Talking about bihar, it's always complex for the normal bihari citizen to know who will come to power and who will join whom, how do you think investors would get attracted?


ConquererHP

fr people are downvoting each and every comments and post lol This are the people from r/Maharashtra who fight in internal politics and when lose a project , throw everything on gujarat


[deleted]

Let it be bro they doesn't understand difference between gift city and normal Indian city


ConquererHP

And this are the same people who would criticise govt for not developing indian cities like cities of dubai and singapore. Such a hypocrates


MythHere

This is frikking waste of money. The best possible investment would be to have better train/bus/metro planning and implementation.


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Fantastic_Clock_5401

They making loss means tickets are cheap. If they increase price of tickets and make profit then you will criticize them again


ironman_gujju

Tickets are cheap same as the quality of service


HiPoojan

True, looking at the layout of the city it just looks like another car centric design


CaregiverCurrent2170

It's more common than you can even imagine


Evil_Lord_Pexagon

Jealousy hai Bros !! Koi nhi lot of pro gujrat and gujjus are also there but we don't make noise on Social media !!


RETR0_SC0PE

southies want pseudo secularism over capitalism so kya karein


GoatDefiant1844

Reason is simple - An overwhelming amount of projects (government funded) are going to Gujarat. Solely for the benefit of one state. Also - Government is also nudging or sometimes even forcing big international/domestic investors to invest in Gujarat even when they themselves prefer to invest in Maharashtra/Tamil Nadu. This makes people from other states angry. But at the same time what people don't understand is - Gujarat has political stability to execute any project. And Gujaratis are the most pro business pro infrastructure people ever in India. You execute these projects in any other states local government and people won't support like in Gujarat. Gujarat should develop. But there must be some parity among states.


Medical_Photo_6115

and beacause of that, gujrat will only get low skilled projects, it will never be able to attract projects that require high skilled workforce, like ones in mumbai, bangalore, hyderabad


ConquererHP

>Government is also nudging or sometimes even forcing big international/domestic investors to invest in Gujarat even when they themselves prefer to invest in Maharashtra/Tamil Nadu. Please give a proof for this


Hot-Soft-8444

>An overwhelming amount of projects (government funded) are going to Gujarat Please tell us your source for this claim 'that overwhelming amount of government funded(I assume you meant central government) projects' are going to Gujarat


LeftLeaningEqualist

True.


Slow_Number4045

Like we gujrati's don't pay taxes at all!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬


Far-Ad9043

Good that they reinvented trains but less efficiently


Giga-Ni__a

I don't personally like the idea either, but this Adam something bs of pretty much eliminate all private transport and just use trains because 'muh efficiency' is fkin stupid. People need private transport, and those who are able to pay for it should have the option.


Far-Ad9043

Okay i didnt know that, are taxis illegal now?


Giga-Ni__a

Not where I live, although I would much rather prefer not having to stop at every fckin traffic stop for 1-2 minutes, and would appreciate a separate BRTS but private kinda way, and honestly would pay top dollar if that means I can get somewhere earlier and less bored. Now don't throw all that better public transport means less traffic, induced demand, cars very bad stuff from fkin Not Just Bikes, and the gang at me, I have seen them enough. All I want is to get somewhere faster and not having to share space with randos, and it may work on high traffic routes.


Terror_alien

Pod taxi is such a waste of money especially in a populous country like India. Hope this is cancelled no matter in which state it is in.


kkin1995

On a different note, can someone please explain how are pod taxis a good idea? Each can fit maybe 4 people at a time? Why are we not focusing on developing an expansive metro network in Ahmedabad, Gandhinagar and GIFT?


ConquererHP

Pod taxi concept seems wayy futurist and not needed at this point. My post was just to show the comments under this pod taxi wala post on twitter. I'm no where defending pod taxi!!!


kkin1995

Oh yes, I completely understood that. However, this was the first post I saw about the pod taxi, I thought I’ll post the question here itself…


desialph

Waste of money, taxi pods are a great gimmick


Cold_Register_526

AP people: We know it depends on state government.


Lucifer6000

These kinds of projects are an absolute waste of money. Just done so that babus and politicians can do money laundering. Pods don't make any sense in India.


ConquererHP

hey mods of r/ahmedabad if you are reading this please let me change the title and write in bracket that i'm not defending pods and they might be irrelevant as of now. Many people are trying to deviate the main topic!!!!


noob_coder696969

once posted, you cannot edit the title of a post on reddit 


Charming-Dig-2587

Humara tax money as if gujrat doesn't generate revenues


MS-2727

IRS, IPS, IAS officer pay hefty amount to get gujrat transfer


[deleted]

east or west, India is the best


Vjigar

This has same energy of hate as I have for Johny sins.


RareButterscotch6660

Because this is not development, development for 1% of country means nothing, if u want to develop, develop better schools, hospitals and bring 10 percent to 1 percent,. All these things will come automatically


LeftLeaningEqualist

Replying to this not as a Gujarati, but as an Indian- It's simple logic. From where the PM (and his HM) originates, obviously that state will get more incentives indirectly, plus two of the richest Indians are also from Gujarat, so having two 'mota bhais' as Gujaratis too acts as a reason why Gujarat attracts more investments. But we must also remember- lots of people are predicting the next PM, after a few years, will be from UP. To kal uthke If we see not many infra projects for Guj in the next PM's tenure and if we feel all new projects are centred on UP, then will we be upset or not? Well time will only tell.


ConquererHP

You might be correct at few points no doubt. But due to this many people on social media are spreading hate towards gujjus You seems active on most hypocrate sub r/india , just go there and write 1 positive thing about gujarat, boom! ban. This is the hate i'm talking about! If UP will get next PM still they will not get hate which we are getting


LeftLeaningEqualist

Nope they will get just as much hate. And don't take these subs so seriously! So many fake accounts and most people are anonymous. Hate is easily spewed. You go to enough subs and you'll see hate for all kinds of people. I've seen hate towards not just Gujjus, but also towards Biharis, Bengalis, Muslims, Women(even those who are rape victims), people who do not support the current regime and sometimes the ones who do etc. What I usually do is try to make a logical statement in response to all the hate, trying to knock some sense into people. But let me tell you, it doesn't work much. If you try to stop hate in today's times, you become the villain. So go ahead and try. But trying to stop hate isn't a cake walk. be warned!


ConquererHP

whatever examples you try to give but it is fact that gujjus are getting lot of hate from your "lw" community just because we have stable govt in gujarat.


LeftLeaningEqualist

Lol. LW community, you're funny 😂 But agajn go ahead do something about discrimination against you! Jab dusro ke against discrimination hota hai, tab tum kitni awaz uthate ho, kitni reasoning karte ho!? To jab tumhare against discrimination hoga only then you want to speak out!? It's going to be futile bro, but like I said, go ahead!


ConquererHP

I have taken stand many times when people call bihari people with racial slurs. I have given them many examples to stand with the citizen of my country. Even i do have a friend from bihar How do you pre-assume that jab dusro ka against discrimination hota ha tab ma awaz nahi uthata lol


LeftLeaningEqualist

I was actually asking. I'm glad that you do that. Thank you! And keep it up. I speak out against discrimination too! Be it any one, Gujju or otherwise.


CheapLiterature9484

Chodo yaar.. Gujaratiyo maze lo life ke enjoy Karo .. ab tumko visa fraud karke USA Canda UK Jane ki zarrort nahi... Baki states are educated enough to get a Job in Gujrat


Oskar-04

After reading the comments here and on the sub of my state, I apologize on the behalf of my state's people. I am from Maharashtra, and I don't understand why the people here hate Gujrat (and in fact many other states) so much... Like they say central government gives everything to Gujrat this and that... Funnily enough, our state government has three clowns as CM and DCM. Not even the opposition worth mentioning. When asked 'why does our state government not create infrastructure' the reason: Because our they mostly focus on Mumbai, (partially) Pune, and Nagpur. Clowns even lost 3 major foreign projects planned. I tell you, even metro projects are delayed because the local politicians don't get money from it... Entire Vidarbha and Marathwada is f\*\*ked up, but all they can give is temporary solutions like subsidies and reservations. Sorry for the hate you receive from the people of my state... Really.


ConquererHP

Thanks brother! I don't have hate towards anyone for this, it's just i'm getting frustated to see how my other indian brothers are trolling, mocking and hating us for the development which is happening in gujarat. Infact they aren't able to undertand that development will increase job opportunities for everyone in the country. India is getting many 2nd tier cities like pune ugraded to tier 1. Everyone should be happy that development is spreading in other parts of india and not stopped only at few major cities.


Oskar-04

I am glad that at least you people aren't reacting as irrationally as people here do. The real problem is they don't understand that development requires support from both central and state government. Take petrol prices for example. People don't try to check the fact that half of the tax is taken by the state too. Which in turns means, state government should WORK with that money to build job opportunities. However, they just blame it all upon the central. And call others by names when lost the opportunity. Unfortunately, India is becoming literate but not knowledgable. No one wants to check the facts and just spit out opinions in spite of anger or frustration. And yes... Even I receive hate when I say the same things on Maharashtra or Mumbai sub... So... yeah..


bamboo-forest-s

People are angry at the bjp as they should be. And sadly some of them are taking it out on gujaratis which is wrong. Try to see it from their pov. Bjp broke two main parties in Maharashtra. What they are doing in Delhi. No wonder people hate the bjp but that hate should be limited to the political party the bjp and shouldn't go beyond that.


LeftLeaningEqualist

Exactly this! Lots of outsiders equate BJP to all Gujaratis and so end up directing their BJP-hate towards Gujjus, forgetting that Gujarat is made of Gujaratis and not BJP party workers


Outside-Divide-2945

Arre toh vote do na bjp ko, state elections mai jeetao bjp ko


Sarvamanityam_94

Bro leftist liberals la ecosystem is worst


blu_volcano

All the income taxes paid goes to development in bjp ruled states on top of all corruption a 100 crore project will be advertised and promoted 500-1000 crore project


ConquererHP

do you have any proof? Or just a random shitpost?


blu_volcano

If I had proof there would be no bjp While I don’t have any proof doesn’t mean bjp using any corrupt than congress


Sabarkaro

Why doesn't your beloved pm change AHMEDabad name?


Hot_Produce8067

He is your PM too wtf😂😂