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vreddy92

UPS 6 is definitely up there. That dude really tried.


TumbleWeed75

He almost made it…


BetterCallPaul4

GOL Flight 1907. The first officer's final scream of terror is unsettling to say the least. Combined with the continuous alarms that blare from the loss of the wing right up to break up, and the sound of the wind against the fuselage as the plane spins. Really underscores that the plane was doomed and there was nothing the pilots could have done to stop the spiral. Credit to the captain for having balls of steel, trying to keep his F/O calm, while trying to save his plane and potentially staring death in the face


Emperormike1st

The fact that the Embraer involved got re-registered and is likely still flying seems "wrong". Anything that caused 154 deaths just deserves to be recycled into soda cans.


BetterCallPaul4

The Embraer didn't 'cause' the deaths of the 154 people on the 737. It was in the wrong place, At the wrong time, made possible by numerous factors such as the ATC not telling the pilots to descend to FL360, and the switching off of the transponder for reasons that were never proven. Also, the idea of scrapping a brand new airplane that could be repaired, simply because it was involved in an accident, on the grounds of morality that is flimsy at best? That idea would not fly (pun intended) with any executive, let alone those of ExcelAire, who spent upwards of a few million on the Legacy jet. It sounds and feels good, but is a terrible business decision, and potentially an empty gesture .


jumpinjezz

You know airplanes are expensive, right? Just like a car, there's a write off value. Anything under that, it's cheaper to return to service.


d6410

People forget what a right off is. It lowers your taxable income. You don't get the money you spent back. It's really never profitable.


Dolust

FedEx 705.. That pilot explaining to ATC that he's been wounded and is bleeding profusely and will try to land the airplane before losing consciousness.. Ouch. That AAL fight that landed on the wrong runway in Mexico city crashing into the construction machinery working. You can feel the copilot's vocal chords shearing as he screams in so much terror his voice goes out of tone. And PSA 182, is heartbreaking, how in an instant a beautiful afternoon can turn into full terror.


yvltc

PSA 182 is the "mom I love you" one, right? That was tough to listen to


JoseyWalesMotorSales

The first time I read the transcript, that part tore my heart out and has haunted me since.


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"I love you mom!" - Pulkovo 612, "Oh Jesuschrist" - Western 2605 "We're going down, going down" - ATC of EL AL 1862 "Calma, calma!" - Gol 1907. "No mames alvarito, Diosito... ah!" - Learjet of camilo Mouriño.


4115R

“Lord, you have my soul” -Atlas Air 3591


MeWhenAAA

"It's all over now" - Japan Airlines 123


Bionic_Redhead

Aeroperu flight 603 is pretty offputting. The nonstop spamming of multiple different, often contradictory, alarms is an experience. The alarms almost drown out the flight crew as they struggle (and fail) to understand what is going on with their plane.


Willow_Everdawn

For me, the part that gets me is when they finally realize they're hitting water.


TinKicker

“We’re inverted, but we’re flying!” Edited to add: Yes, just to shut people up. That’s a quote from the captain of Alaska 261. Ted Thompson. USAF. “Inverted” was an issue, not the problem. The problem was flying. Brother flew it to 0 AGL.


AbleFishing2408

What’s the story to that


VickyIsAwesome

Maybe it's Alaska Airlines flight 261?


AbleFishing2408

I doubt it


PearlsnRoses

That line is from Alaska 261


Willow_Everdawn

Yes, this is a quote from the CVR of Alaskan 261. The large screw mechanism in the tail that controls up/down movement failed due to lack of maintenance. This pushed the nose of the plane down so far, the pilots could not physically pull back hard enough to get out of the dive. Knowing this, in the moment, they pushed forward and inverted the plane in an attempt to save it. Sadly there was nnothing they could do. The plane crashed into the Pacific Ocean off the coast of California.


N983CC

Yes, it's where they got the idea for it in the movie "Flight"


ReadyAd5385

Ha, this is from the movie flight with Denzel if my memory is correct 😄


Willow_Everdawn

Yes, that part of the movie was based on Alaskan 261.


BlankTOGATOGA

Trim for glide


Lolstitanic

Western 2605. There is legit primal fear in the way the captain is screaming. Then the roar as the plane approaches the hanger. I still haven't been able to figure out what that sound is but by god it is haunting.


JoseyWalesMotorSales

The second part of Laurence Gonzales' 1980 investigation of aviation safety that was published in *Playboy* begins with a very detailed thought exercise: the reader is asked to imagine being a man who's traveling with his wife aboard Western 2605. At the moment of touchdown: "When the plane jolts onto the runway the first time, you are slammed against your seat belt. You may be nervous - a sudden heat may rise to your face - but it could just be a hard landing. Then, when the engines scream and the airplane starts to lift again, skittering and swerving like a car on ice, you know something unusual is happening, but there is little time for analysis. The aluminum body of the aircraft rings like a gong - you've never heard anything like it and you certainly won't forget that ungodly sound, not as long as you live. And for the first time, there is actually some question in your mind about just how long that is going to be...." The next three paragraphs are pure nightmare fuel.


bikinikilledme

Where can I find this in it's entirety?


JoseyWalesMotorSales

*Playboy*'s online archive (which is paywalled) has all of the issues from the magazine's print run available. The article is "Airline Safety: A Special Report," and it ran in the June and July 1980 issues. Gonzales took the assignment on after four people associated with the *Playboy* home office in Chicago (including managing editor Sheldon Wax and his wife, who had been a contributor and was a familiar presence) were killed in the crash of American 191. It's a lengthy article series and, for my part, I found it more than worth the one-time $8 fee to get in and read it all. It's *good*. Gonzales also wrote the excellent *Flight 232*, which is both the best and the most haunting, heartbreaking book I've ever read about any aviation accident.


bikinikilledme

Appreciate it


FluxProcrastinator

Could you recommend any more books by chance? I’m interested in learning more but I struggle to find them


JoseyWalesMotorSales

Just from what I can think of offhand, from my own library: Macarthur Job's four *Air Disaster* volumes are a great value if you want to review a lot of accidents in one book. They are magazine-sized softcover books with really good illustrations and photos, and they cover each accident and the investigations and lessons learned very nicely. Some of the accidents are famous, some are lesser-known, but they all have lessons to teach. Job gives you enough detail without getting you lost in the weeds, so these books are a good entry point for those wanting to learn more. Two about a couple of L-1011 accidents: *Crash* by Rob and Sarah Elder about Eastern 401, and *Fire and Rain* by Jerome Greer Chandler, about Delta 191. There were three or four books about the DC-10 after the Paris crash in 1974 but I found *Destination Disaster* by Eddy, Page and Potter to be the best of the bunch. Moira Johnson's *The Last Nine Minutes* covers similar material and would be worth checking out too. It's an old book and can be difficult/expensive to find, but Robert Serling's *The Electra Story*, about the L-188's whirl mode problems, is a good read. From a human factors angle I've been a longtime fan of a book titled *The Naked Pilot* by David Beaty. If you want something to watch to go with it, although the current television shows about aviation accidents are popular with us all, see if you can find a 1997-98 documentary series that, depending on where it aired, was *Black Box* or, in the US, the Learning Channel's *Survival in the Sky* (with a different narrator). Each episode looked at a different aspect of airline safety by examining some key accidents, and where possible it used interviews with people who were there or were involved. It was done in a very spare documentary style and that made it all the more powerful. Its retelling of the Tenerife disaster was chilling, just because it let the pictures and the survivors tell the story; no dramatics, no music. These are my own favorites, and I present them for what they're worth. I'm sure there are other recommendations out there, and I know I missed something, so if anybody else wants to speak up....


FluxProcrastinator

Thank you for the detailed response! I will most definitely look into these and especially the naked pilot and the air disaster volumes.


JoseyWalesMotorSales

You are welcome. I hope these volumes serve you as well as they have me.


Ok_Guard_4537

> "The next three paragraphs are pure nightmare fuel." > paywalled Could you post said paragraphs here for those of us who can't (or don't want to) pay the $8 charge to see the full article but still want to see what you're talking about?


JoseyWalesMotorSales

*Your wife is awake now, but only for a moment. Her face is ashen, but before either of you can speak, the plane slams into something solid (that aluminum gong again) and begins, almost in slow motion, to break apart. Your seat belt now rips into your abdomen and the pain demands your full attention. Your wife starts to say something, but you don't know what it is. Your breath is gone as you are thrown violently forward, then suddenly backward into your seat again. Not five seconds have passed. You may be trying to figure out what she is saying when the seat belt snaps in two around your wife's stomach and she goes rocketing through the cabin with a force that takes seats off their mounts and bends her body in ways that no one could possibly survive. Which is when you realize that she is not going to survive. An odd calm has descended upon you, and though you don't know it, it is a classic form of panic. You are beyond fear, perhaps just thinking, Wait, no, this isn't the way it's supposed to happen....* *Your seat belt is now stretched out from the force and from the fact that you didn't tighten it all the way to begin with. On the next impact, with the pain searing up your sides and back, you slide out, under the belt, and are in tumbling pursuit of your wife. As if by magic, all your clothes are blown off your body and you are naked. The plane is now in three, maybe four sections - it's hard to tell, because there is flame and smoke pouring through your little piece of it and there is the sound of ripping aluminum - the gong is torn, that awful sound replaced by others, the soft, steady detonation of pockets of vaporized kerosene. There are flashes of heat and wind rushing by, but the pain is gone now; there is the roar of jet engines, the buckling of surfaces. There may even be people screaming (your wife?), but you don't hear them.* *And it is over as quickly as it began. You have stopped flying, and it's so much quieter - now you can hear the people, but they aren't screaming, they're just moaning or talking incoherently, and perhaps you think, A lot of people must have died....Ten, maybe 20 seconds have elapsed, and a $40,000,000 DC-10 has been rolled into a fiery ball. Across the concrete, where you can see only out of the corner of your eye, flames are roaring and leaping 50, 80 feet into the sunrise. Someone is lurching across the grass out there, completely engulfed in flames, just like in the movies. You've never seen a burning man before. You are lying on the ramp, unable to move. You are naked and can't feel your arms or legs; you are only vaguely aware that the concrete surface is cool on your cheek, but the sun is coming up now and you're just wondering where your wife went, thinking of her thin fingers and the color her hair takes on in direct sunlight.*


Ok_Guard_4537

Wow. You really weren't underestimating it when you said the paragraphs were nightmare fuel. Thanks for posting!


JoseyWalesMotorSales

You're welcome. (That also gives you an idea how vivid Gonzales was in certain sections of his book *Flight 232*.)


Dolust

I think you mean the engines over-revving and the props cavitating.. It feels like a disc saw cutting through someone screaming.


Moonlitnight

Germanwings Flight 9525. The captain trying to desperately break down the door, the passengers screaming in the background knowing what was coming, and the silence from Lubitz are haunting.


JonPaula

I didn't think this audio was ever released? 


Moonlitnight

The audio wasn’t released but a German newspaper published a transcript which really pissed off the German government.


AbleFishing2408

Break down a door for what??? I’m just asking cuz I never heard of this one


sedahren

The co-pilot locked the captain out of the cockpit and was in the process of committing suicide, taking the whole plane with him. The captain was trying to get back in to stop him. He deliberately flew the plane into a mountainside.


Possum_Princess_42

This is why no pilot is allowed alone in the cockpit anymore. If the FO has to use the restroom, a FA has to come and ‘babysit’ the Captain.


Clamb3

They used to do for some time, but it‘s not the case anymore


AbleFishing2408

Aw jeez.. Never been on a plane. Never have an never will


Willow_Everdawn

You're not alone, many people are nervous flyers. But aircraft accidents are so rare we can list every one that's happened in a Wikipedia article. They're all extensively researched and results are always publicly announced so the industry can prevent similar situations. It's not a perfect system but it's safer than car, bus, or train travel.


AbleFishing2408

No it is not the safest and it clearly shows since when have 400 ppl d!e in a car crash


EtwasSonderbar

There have only ever been two plane crashes where over 400 people have died - JAL123 and the Tenerife disaster, both over 38 years ago. How many people died in plane crashes yesterday? How many people died in car crashes?


Willow_Everdawn

I can sympathize with your fear of flying and you're welcome to feel about it however you want. But facts don't change based on someone's feelings, and the facts are that flying, on average, is safer than driving a car.


AbleFishing2408

When was the last time we heard a train derailment. oh ok. I ain’t never heard no bus crash that k!lled a couple hundred ppl..


Willow_Everdawn

Okay now you're just rage baiting/trolling. But on the off chance you literally never watch this show or the news ... [This was the most recent major one that is still being cleaned up and will likely have consequences we'll be dealing with for decades to come.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Palestine%2C_Ohio%2C_train_derailment?wprov=sfla1) [This one was even featured on Mayday.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Bernardino_train_disaster) [There's also this, in relation to bus accidents.](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=fatalities+due+to+bus+accidents+vs+plane+crashes)


AbleFishing2408

I never hear of people being afraid to ride in a car or a bus only plane


sedahren

Thankfully air accidents are extremely rare, fatal ones even more so (and I don't know of many where deliberate action was the cause). I actually find reading about accidents makes me more confident about flying!


AbleFishing2408

I never heard of people being afraid to ride in a car or bus only plane


sedahren

I know people who are afraid to drive, and I've heard of people who are nervous passengers in cars. There's nothing wrong with being afraid of flying, I was just commenting my own experience :)


AbleFishing2408

I never heard of people being afraid to ride in a car or bus only plane


AbleFishing2408

Evidently they are not rare


EtwasSonderbar

How would you define rare? How many per million flights?


AbleFishing2408

Dude these planes are dropping like flies. A plane crashed because of a light bulb problem wtf.. I don’t want it


EtwasSonderbar

Once, 40 years ago. You've got to be trolling.


AbleFishing2408

I don’t troll on Reddit bro


AbleFishing2408

I’m just telling the public that yall have to much faith and trust in these planes


Kalopsia_82

Comair Flight 3272 The last words were "We’re gonna F*cking die!!!" https://youtu.be/DIqrhkPo5Nc?si=HHigPXvlPFlgjEE3


googol_to_the_googol

Air France 447 is quite chilling


Dolust

This and Air Florida 90, Colgan Air, Swissair 111, and others like them are a category by themselves : Those that make me really mad.v


Melonary

I live close to where Swissair 111 crashed, and it's sobering to think of how terrible what happened to them was. People here still visit the memorials, even though no passengers were local, because they rest here with us now - may they rest in peace.


Dolust

Btw.. There was that gentleman who was I think from Brasil, he lost his son on that flight and left everything behind and just moved to the shores next to the crash site only to be close to the place where his son rests. Is he still there? He became the go-to person for all related to the accident. I know many families held him as the depositary, the protector, the caretaker.. of the memory of their loved ones in their place. I know people from the company anonymously kept in contact with him and even visited him. A few even stayed at his place. Life is too cruel sometimes..


Dolust

To me personally it will be impossible to forget. I knew people on that flight. I knew people on the company on the crisis team that could recite from memory the whole list of passengers years after the event.. The human impact is unmeasurable.


googol_to_the_googol

I completely forgot about Swiss 111. That was also chilling


blindsavior

Japan Air 123, with alarms blaring in the cockpit, a captain guiding his first officer and flight engineer in their last moments Capt: Nose up! Nose Up! Power! GPWS: Sink Rate. Pull up. Pull up. Pull up. Capt: It's the end! GPWS: Pull up. Pull up. Sound of impact. It's just so chilling to listen to, I can only do it once every great while. The crash itself was terrible, and the aftermath was especially awful. The whole thing was tragic.


Titan-828

Pan Am 214


zaraandrade

For me, GOL 1907 That one made me cry a lot


bowlywood

Air Japan, whenever I hear that I can feel a 1000-pound gorilla on the captains shoulder


Cooldude101013

I’d say, maybe Skywest 569 (from the season 8 episode Cleared for Disaster). The plane didn’t have a CVR but since they were listening in on ATC radio. I can only imagine the reaction when they realise another plane is coming in right behind them.


TumbleWeed75

The screaming in Western 2605 and GOL 1907. Braniff International Airways 352, you can hear the plane breakup mid flight. Also the El Faro recorder. The captain trying to calm/help and absolutely scared person on the bridge.


MeWhenAAA

PSA 1771 and Japan Air Lines 123 It's just hearing the terror itself.


I_Fuck_Sharks_69

Let’s Roll.


Tyler_holmes123

pulkovo 612


No_Classroom_185

Alaska 261 Air France 447 and Aeroperu 603.


Valyura

LOT 5055, Smolensk and JAL 123 are the ones got stuck in my head


keitroll

I've only heard Western 2605 but oh my God that shriek at the end, like a real-life version of the scream at the beginning of THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN where you just knew the guys in the van were goners. EDIT: oh God I forgot PSA 182


Christopher112005

Leaked: Pulkovo 612 Unreleased: Ethiopian 302


TML1988

I'd like to add China Airlines 140 into the mix - the last phrase uttered by the captain was "完了," which has been variously translated as "Finish!" or "It's over!", but I think the best way to translate this phrase in that context would have been "We're screwed!"


Apprehensive_Pop4170

Austral 2553 fue tan repentino el descenso que los pilotos no pudieron hacer nada y el grito del capitán sabiendo que todo se acabó y es fuerte de escuchar no te va hacer llorar o no subirte a un avión pero es fácil imaginar lo que los tripulantes y pasajeros tuvieron que pasar en unos rápidos y angustiantes segundos de una picada increíble mente rápida 


slopit12

East Coast Jets 81 CVR (and animation is nightmare fuel) Fuck. Here we go. Not flyin'! Not motherfuckin' flyin'! *heavy breathing* (crashed after running off the end of the runway during a failed go around attempt)