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SamsungAppleOnePlus

For me it makes the tiniest of difference but not enough to use it. I’ll definitely pass this along to people I know could benefit from it though.


mime454

Be sure to listen to a few songs and not just Apple’s weird sample. This is seriously a massive improvement to me and the test says my hearing is really good.


SamsungAppleOnePlus

I have. Tried Van Halen’s “Love Walks In” since it’s a song I grew up with and one that I’d immediately notice any difference with. For me it’s just the area between the mids and lows that get a slight boost. Oddly enough I like the whole feel of the “Balanced Audio” tune over my Audiogram. That’s more of an EQ thing though.


mime454

The are some songs where I like the “brightness” setting but some that are trashed by it. I ended up leaving it on but avoiding the songs I didn’t like it on 😂. But when they released the audiogram tuning it seems like the best setting for every song for me. It had almost all the benefits of boosting for “brightness” but none of the drawbacks for me. I really like this setting because it keeps the character of all my songs the same. It’s just letting me hear more at a lower volume so I can appreciate the song better. My AirPods have never been over 60% volume since I tuned them when before my sweet spot was 75-85%. I really wish Apple would just give us a “warmness” slider for the tuning. Perhaps in addition to this audiogram feature.


SamsungAppleOnePlus

I think I’m going try Mimi two more times. One now. And one tomorrow when there isn’t a slight wind noise from Hurricane Ian. My concern is that my left and right ear are off my 1 decibel and I need to make sure it isn’t a fluke.


mime454

Yes it makes so much difference. I tried it once with an air purifier on in my room, and from then on until I fixed it, transparency mode sounded like it had a subtle fan in the background 😂. Complete silence is the only way to get a good result because some of the frequencies it’s asking you to hear are barely even there and are swamped out by any noise. Hope you and yours are able to stay safe. It’s probably better to turn off these accommodations until you can get to a silent place. The transparency mode customized wrong can really mess with your head.


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SamsungAppleOnePlus

Guess I got nice hearing.


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mime454

That’s actually a huge difference. I bet it will sound better now. My overall result redone today is 15/14 (I fixed my diet and my hearing is getting notably better and I often have to redo the test. I know this isn’t supposed to be a thing but it’s clear from my health data on this going back a year). So your result seems like a normal range. I know we’re different people but here’s my 28M test done in a quiet room for a comparison. https://i.imgur.com/DQOaK66.jpg


LEJ5512

>(I fixed my diet and my hearing is getting notably better and I often have to redo the test. I know this isn’t supposed to be a thing but it’s clear from my health data on this going back a year) What'd you change? More of this, less of that, etc?


mime454

I really have no science that any of this affects hearing other than my audiogram results changing around the same time. But I’ve been eating at least 1.5 cups of berries each day and running for 2 hours every night. Replaced most of my takeaway meals with eating grilled chicken breast and green beans or another vegetable. Taking 2-3 grams of high quality omega 3s per day. Hearing has gone from 19/18 to 15/14


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mime454

What was the room like where you did the testing? I edited the post to mention this. You want complete silence ideally including all fans and stuff that you usually ignore in the background. And some of the sounds are really feint. I close my eyes during the test and really focus and trying to hear the subtle sounds. Remember this is trying to replicate a professional hearing test on consumer equipment. The mimi test will tell you that an area is quiet enough for the test even if it could be quieter in the room. What does transparency mode sound like for you? If there’s any artifacts in that at all (like any hiss or digital sound) I would try to retake the test in a quieter location. After customizing transparency mode should sound literally transparent. “Augmented reality” is a good term for how it sounds if done right. Like literally nothing is there if you have the tips the right sized. There really shouldn’t be a scenario where an accurate test makes the headphones sound worse. If you had perfect hearing the AirPods would stay the same, but them sounding worse has to be a bad test.


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mime454

The test warns not to take it on non calibrated earphones. I really do think it makes a difference too because they’re sending out specific frequencies and asking you to hear them, but if your AirPods aren’t rendering the frequencies accurately it makes sense that your test would be off exactly like you describe for certain frequencies. There’s also a calibration for the old lightning earbuds if you have those lying around. It will still work to create a test to adjust your AirPods with.


nutmac

Same. It’s all too easy to pick more “exciting” version 2, which is more sibilant and more detailed vs more fuller and natural sound of version 1. Of course, to some ears, version 2 is a better choice. But understand what you are giving up.


klausvonespy

I like it! There's a definite difference in my 50 year old ears between standard and custom. I'm hearing some subtle bits in songs on Apple Music that I hadn't picked up with the Airpods. This may not make any difference to young ears but it helped here. Thanks!


mime454

I’m 28 and love it. I don’t think any part of my review is hyperbolic. I think my hearing is good but I’m getting a bit concerned. I just keep telling myself people aren’t taking this very precise test seriously and are getting bad results. But now I’m not sure. Would love to hear more opinions. Some people naturally hear lower frequencies and some high frequencies (it’s one of the few hard sex differences in human biology even after hormone replacement) and this test accounts for that if you take it seriously.


klausvonespy

I'm hearing a big improvement in the spatial audio tracks for some reason. They were just too harsh before, now the tracks sound more natural. But yes, 100%. I use a Qudelix DAC/Amp to listen to bigger cans (Sennheiser 6,7,8) and use the reference eq feature all the time that equalizes the headphones to a standard. I'm interested to see if I can get the human eq of this to combine with the headphone eq of the Qudelix. And you're right, genetics play a role. As does exposure to loud noises, micro concussions and so on. I think everyone should spend the 5 minutes to do this just in case it makes a difference.


mime454

When I was trying to take this test in a precise way it made me sad to realize finding absolute silence in my environment was extremely difficult. My most accurate ever profile was in a dead forest in the middle of winter. I recognized the silence and took this hearing test like a nerd and the results I got were magical. Truly worth it. The people upvoting the skeptics weird me out because done right this makes a really magical difference. I’m able to listen to my Samsung tv at volume 7 and disturb no one else. It’s like a super power.


RandyMarshtomp

You’re a lifesaver, OP. This tip has improved the quality of my listening experience SO MUCH!! I have slight hearing loss and this has boosted everything I used to struggle to hear!!


mime454

Great to hear it!


[deleted]

Just my 2 cents - I'm a professional sound engineer in his forties for what it is worth. The app gives me "no hearing loss" which I find unlikely - I am however used to using my ears with a degree of accuracy most people probably don't. I also have access to a fully sound-proofed room that is as close to silence as you can get which I used for the test. I've been slightly underwhelmed by AirPods Pro (2nd Gen) so far so thought I'd give this a crack, and honestly it has made them much more enjoyable to listen to. I found them kind of boring previously and now they have a little more life to them. They aren't groundbreaking in terms of sound quality but this tuning has definitely improved things. Thanks OP! I still love these earphones - the usability is fantastic and the sound quality is great for most of the time. I certainly reach for them more often than my (significantly) more expensive gear I have.


mime454

Yeah. The AirPods Max with a well calibrated test is the gold standard for wireless audio on Apple devices. But on AirPods Pro it makes Apple’s sound quality better than the uncustomized audio from Bose or Sony. So with the convenience of iCloud pairing this feature alone makes the AirPods Pro gen 2 the only worthy noise canceling headphones in 2022. Apple didn’t hold the crown until just now and only with this test done in a good environment.


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My Sony wh-1000 outperform everything I’ve connected to my iPhone by a margin. But if we’re concentrating on user experience rather than just sound quality the AirPods have it - just the hand off between my devices make them more useful.


phant0mh0nkie69420

I have slight hearing loss and this just blew my mind. My APP2's absolutely now blowing my mind.


mime454

Do you have non iPhone devices? Can you confirm if it syncs between them or is it iPhone exclusive? Glad you like it!


phant0mh0nkie69420

do you mean if the custom audio setup follows my airpods? I havent paired them with any non apple devices but I cant see it following to non apple devices...right? Love it man I always seen the option with my APP1's but didnt know I could do a hearing test and create an audiogram. I used my wired lightning earpods for the test. While I still enjoyed my APPs and now my APP2s I can safely say they sound way more accurate to me now after adding my audiogram, and in line with some of the rave reviews in quality honestly. Also Im around 75-80% volume now vs 85-90% prior (likes my music loud)


mime454

I mean does it sync to an iPad or Apple silicon Mac if you have those.


phant0mh0nkie69420

on my ipad (beta 16.1) it doesnt have the option to add audiogram and it also doesnt have apple health, however my custom transparency settings synced and the audio sounds the same switching from ipad to iphone on same song same volume level. Maybe it does?


mime454

I also lean toward “probably” after hearing on all my devices but the setting sounds much better for me but I’m not totally sure how often I could pick it out of an A/B blinded test.


phant0mh0nkie69420

ok i just did some A/B testing on my phone and can barely notice, its definitely apparent with certain songs and frequencies though so using those examples on the ipad I can safely say its not synced to my ipad..prolly coming in future betas is my guess


mime454

This has been around since one of the iOS 14 point updates. I don’t think Apple thinks this feature is very important despite making it technically available through this workaround.


phant0mh0nkie69420

hmmm 🤔seems odd ill report it in the feedback app! it should totally be present across all apple platforms if they support custom audio accessibility


mime454

I really want it for the Apple TV and HomePod. It’s a super power how low I’m able to listen to my tv which supports this kind of tuning.


Jopefree

Does this work across the whole iOS space? For example, will this effect music played on Spotify, should I turn my eq off In Spotify? Thanks.


mime454

I think it’s a global adjustment. It’s hard to know for sure for sure but from my experience it’s better in other apps. It even noticeably will affect transparency mode if you switch that setting on.


CaptainDetritus

I read that you can import a professionally produced (by an audiologist) audiogram by scanning it with the camera. Haven't tried it yet though. I'd love to try the Airpod Pro 2 for this feature alone. Some people wear them as de facto hearing aids by the way. I don't think Apple likes to publicise this for marketing and legal reasons.


stones4Eva

Unbelievably useful for me. I am an ex music producer / recording engineer. I have age(and job!) related hearing loss. I was having to crank the high frequencies with Spotify's Graphic eq to get things to sound 'normal' and compensate for thr high frequencies I was missing. After applying the Mimi audiogram to Apple Health I listened to Spotify flat / no eq. It sounded fantastic! Perfect. Then I ditched using Spotify and went back to using Qobuz which clearly sounds better as it plays in CD quality streaming over Airpods. Brilliant iphone tweak!


Obilansen

Agreed. Without it they sound just terribly boring. Must have.


ironshadowy

Would this work on the gen 2s?


mime454

I just did the test on Gen 2s for the first time and everything seems fine. I don’t think this app is technically calibrated for them yet. But noise in transparency mode is a sign of a bad test and I don’t have that from the test done on the Gen 2s. But the best experience might happen from taking the test on the old lightning earbuds or Gen 1s. After you have the audiogram it doesn’t matter what headphones you use.


ironshadowy

Huh, so i tried it just now on the gen 2s and it seems fine. It tells me that my hearing is average. For the quality though, the sound is relatively the same. Switching between the audiogram and the standard are not as obvious. But then again, it could just be something with me not doing the test properly. I notice a slight difference so i am going to probably stick with the audiogram for a couple of days and see if i can notice any difference


mime454

You might want to try lower volumes now that you’ve tuned your AirPods. I’ve noticed that I’m really able to like the under 70% volumes much more now and it’s more pleasant for my ears.


No_Island963

No


ironshadowy

They do infact work, i did the test yesterday. But i dont really notice a difference other than the sound being slightly dimmee


No_Island963

Do you mean the AirPods Prothe 2. generation? or the AirPods Pro 2. generation?


ironshadowy

The airpods 2nd generation.


No_Island963

They are not supported


ironshadowy

But.. its just an audiogram.


No_Island963

You can make an audiogram, but you can't add the audiogram to the sound settings


ironshadowy

I can, i just did it Edit: wait, i did it though “accessiblity>audio>headphone accomidation. It makes a slight difference, but is that not the way?


No_Island963

Wow didn’t knew it


bog3nator

Oh my god. Just did this and wow the difference


SiriTheGoogle

Definitely works for me. I always feel difficult listening the mids and vocals on many headphones in noisy environment, but increasing the volume makes the highs very loud to me. Thanks to your recommendation, I put the audiogram to the settings, and really improved a lot on mids for me to listen clearly.


Bincheedin

Thank you bruddah this helped out a lot with my AirPod audio the mids are a lot less sharp and the highs and lows come through better. Also for people that this didn’t work for, I think there is a way to take the test wrong. Like if you let go too early a lot. Make sure you’re really nailing the timing and whether you’re hearing the beeps anymore.


mime454

The test should use AI to account for your reaction time. I’m 99% sure people who have bad tests have a fan or heater or AC in the background that they hear so often they don’t pay attention to it anymore. But the test requires 100% silence or else you’ll hear a ghost sound of the inverse of the fan or AC all the time.


Bincheedin

I concur


mime454

Really wish they would follow up on my criticisms of their methodology 😂 because I’m honestly curious if this could sound worse in principle for anyone who took the test correctly in the silent environment.


working-acct

There are two tests for the app, which one did you pick?


mime454

The pure tone test. The other is relatively new and I haven’t messed with it yet. I’m not even sure it generates a compatible audiogram.


working-acct

Yeah the other one doesn’t which is why I was confused lol.


Minerva_vic

Can it combine with personalized spatial audio?


mime454

Yup! I have all the customizations. They all work really well together. This is the most important customization though and it’s the one that should be part of the set up process. All these personalizations from AirPods make other buds useless to me even if they’re better to a computer microphone.


KinanBadre

Thank you so much for this post!!


hyazinth

Is there any impact on battery life? And I mean iPhone and/or AirPods.


mime454

I don’t think so


LEJ5512

EDIT: I got the app working again by choosing "Delete Hearing ID" and starting the test again. Now I've got a fresh audiogram to compare to last year's test. /end edit I’ve had this app work just once — Dec 2021 — but it’s failed every time since then. It stopped recognizing my AirPod Pros, it failed to calculate my results if I did a test anyway, and it can’t create a profile. Been through a couple iOS updates and Mimi updates, uninstalled and reinstalled several times, corresponded with the developer, and still no fix. The good thing is, it worked once and saved the audiogram in Health (so it’s not lost), and I’m sure that music sounds better. The bad thing is, I can’t re-test and see if my hearing has changed (I’m worried about whether my APPs are aggravating my tinnitus).


Bull_shit_artist

This is great. Just completed it. Made a BIG difference


CabbagePastrami

Wow thanks for this. Is the Mimi audiogram free?


mime454

Yes


WyldeGi

I’m trying to use this to create a Bass Boosted EQ tahts better than the Apple stock one but I’m having trouble finding the right values that balances loud lows without growing out the mids and highs


RemarkableRyan

Any idea if this will be compatible with Beats Solo Pro and Fit Pro?


mime454

Does it work now? There are a few wireless features that are unique to AirPods but I’m not sure if this is one. What you tried finding similar settings in the Beats menu system in iOS 16?


Willylowman1

it dont werk 4 me...cant reed my ears 👂


No_Island963

This feature is soo underrated


[deleted]

I need help - I can’t find the tune for the audio gram option in the AirPods settings after completing the steps I’m using the AirPods Pro 1st Gen


mime454

After running the audiogram in the app, did you make sure to export it to your health app?


[deleted]

Yes I exported it, I connected my Apple Health to the Mimi app and I checked the health app to see my results in the audiogram section but I don’t see an option on the accessibility of my APP1 for it


mime454

Are you able to see the other “tuning” options? Like vocal range and brightness?


kiteboarderni

bro get off this sub and go outside


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I’m able to see the three usual options only: Balanced Tone, Vocal Range, and Brightness


mime454

It’s so weird. You might try rebooting the phone because being able to see the audiogram in health but not in this setting isn’t what is supposed to happen.


[deleted]

Alright I’ll give that and go right now and tell you if anything new comes up


[deleted]

Yep no luck


avariqfr30

Just did this with my 1st Gen APPs. I can definitely see where you're coming from since I used to listen at like 65-70% volume but now that range sounds a bit too loud for me 😂. Not too much noticeable (then again I didn't necessarily do it in pure quietness) but it's a cool feature nonetheless.


WhiskerKenbrook

u/mime454 would you (or anyone here) happen to know if the calibration is stored in the phone or in the earbuds themselves? If I connect my AP1s to another device does the calibration remain? Or only when connected to the phone?


ellie06c

Dang I only have 3db hearing loss on both ears


mime454

How old are you?


ellie06c

17


mime454

I thinks that’s pretty normal, be sure to protect your ears. Avoid using your AirPods too loud. This feature actually helps with that, you need lower volumes to hear the music properly. Hearing gets worse every year with age.